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Server Makers Push Linux

Rob writes "The bi-annual LinuxWorld trade show is under way this week in San Francisco, and once again the major platform makers are swearing their fealty to Linux and trying to figure out any angle they can to use Linux as a lever to wrest sales away from their competition and money out of their customer bases. The Linux market has largely proven itself (even if it is still dwarfed by Windows and Unix), and now the major server makers are getting down to the brass tacks of marketing as well as broadening and deepening their support of Linux on their platforms." Also FYI, I will be attending the Slashdot BOF session on Wednesday and answering questions. I'm hoping to be able to show people a good demo of Slashdot in CSS!

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  1. CSS?? Slashdot? Godzirrrrra!! by reidman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot in CSS? I feel the very foundations of the earth trembling...

    1. Re:CSS?? Slashdot? Godzirrrrra!! by dduardo · · Score: 5, Funny

      And it only renders in browsers other than IE.

    2. Re:CSS?? Slashdot? Godzirrrrra!! by team99parody · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Wonder if it works as well as this slashdot-style in CSS

      I still think that's the most impressive CSSification of slashdot because it uses the exact same HTML as this and this and this and even this very different style. Note that all of those are the exact same HTML page, only the style sheet changed.

      If a CSS slashdot were that flexible, we could probably have PDA-friendly styles very easily.

    3. Re:CSS?? Slashdot? Godzirrrrra!! by br0ck · · Score: 3, Informative

      They've been working on it for a while and you can preview it at SlashCode.

    4. Re:CSS?? Slashdot? Godzirrrrra!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Damn, it's getting cold down here.

      - Satan

  2. Fealty? by saskboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    "swearing their fealty to Linux"

    With highbrow language like that, Linux is going to acquire a reputation as the OS of snobs. That's not good.

    I guess swearing fealty is better than opening a sealed OEM package though, you retain more of your rights.

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  3. Sweet... by Mad_Rain · · Score: 4, Funny

    Also FYI, I will be attending the Slashdot BOF session on Wednesday and answering questions. I'm hoping to be able to show people a good demo of Slashdot in CSS!

    Isn't it enough that we bitch and moan about how slashdot works now? Are you sure you want to be trolled in person? ;)

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  4. Don't forget by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny
    I will be attending the Slashdot BOF session on Wednesday and answering questions.
    Please, please, please, could everyone at this session please just ask the same duplicate question over and over again.
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    1. Re:Don't forget by Sven-Erik · · Score: 5, Funny

      And the 50 first to ask a question shout out "FIRST POST!"

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    2. Re:Don't forget by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...with bad grammer.

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      Be yourself no matter what they say
  5. CSS by jericho4.0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    We've alread seen /. in CSS.

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    1. Re:CSS by __aaitqo8496 · · Score: 4, Informative

      And if you want to know more about how it was done, you can actually read the article

    2. Re:CSS by AsnFkr · · Score: 4, Funny

      And if you want to know more about how it was done, you can actually read the article

      Not around here dude.

    3. Re:CSS by Ctawp · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not only that, but if you check out the opensource site of slashdot's code... http://www.slashcode.com/
      If you view the source, there isn't a single table tag, it's all CSS (the main page, however comment pages, etc, have some tables). So, despite slashdot's appearance, I'm guessing the newer implementations based off the code are CSS anyways.

  6. I use a Linux server... by durbnpoisn · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have a couple of window machines. I have a few Linux machines. But, I will [b]NOT[/b] use a Windows machine for a web server. One of my machines is a Mandrake 9 box running Apache.

    It's absolutely awesome, and 100% reliable.

    But more than anything else, I don't have to worry about my shit getting hackified. Well, obviously there is always a chance. But, I know it's a helluva lot more secure than any Windows ISS server.

    I know I'm not even a zit on the butt of the internet in terms of the stuff I serve up, but, it's relevant that home users like myself trust Linux over Windows.

    1. Re:I use a Linux server... by durbnpoisn · · Score: 2, Funny
      127.1.1.0

      I'm pretty sure that's it.

  7. Erph by B3ryllium · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't wait for the day when evangalism gives way to common sense and rational thought. A day when the Slashdot crowd can discuss this topic with equal thought and consideration to both sides of the fence.

    What I mean is, I use Linux daily at work - a stripped-down workstation thin client platform that I maintain - and it's simple. I've had experience doing the same sort of thing with Windows 2000 (well, not Terminal Services style, but participating in a domain with roaming profiles and locked-down policies), and it was just a nightmare. But that said, Windows does have its high points. Usability isn't necessarily one of them, nor is interoperatbility/server reliabilitiy, but for many offices it does a bang-up job of getting stuff done.

    I prefer to use the right tool for the job, and I think for this particular post, it's sort of a no-brainer that Linux/FreeBSD are the right tools for the job. Or, to put it in an OS War context, Linux/FreeBSD are perfect for the Big Iron, and somewhat adaptable to the Small Iron, but Windows tries and, generally, succeeds at the Small Iron.

    Personally, I prefer FreeBSD, but according to Netcraft, it's just me.

  8. The Summer of the Apocalypse by DrHogie · · Score: 5, Funny

    First Microsoft switches the XBox to PowerPC chips.

    Then Apple switches to Intel processors.

    Next, Apple comes out with a multi-button mouse.

    Now you're trying to tell me Slashdot is FINALLY switching to CSS?

    *runs to a fallout shelter stocked up with beans and bullets*

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    --DrH, the Sandwich with the Ph.D.
    1. Re:The Summer of the Apocalypse by chrisgeleven · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the makers of Duke Nukem just announced...gotcha

  9. Windows by Vandilizer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdot in CCS

    will it be Internet Explorer 7 Complient?

    Mahaha......

    Sory my bad... had a moment...

  10. Re:Uhm... by Chemicalscum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has anyone got any reliable installed base figures?

  11. Re:Servers Might give Linux the Edge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nice FUD attempt.

    My mother turned 60 last week, and she has been using Redhat just fine for over 3 years now. My time wasted supporting her PC problems has dropped to a single incident, which was when her ISP changed their dial-up number without notification (according to her).

    I no longer have to clean out her spyware, fix virus problems, or any other crap my life was being wasted on when she used to use windows. And should anything require support, I can do it remotely as long as she can connect to the Net.

    I'm happy, she's happy. So cut the BS about grandmothers unable to cope with "Linux".

  12. Re:Servers Might give Linux the Edge by Spellbinder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you think
    your grandmother has to learn the things she wants to do anyway
    and it is not harder to write a letter or email and to surf the web with linux than with windows
    it might be a bit of trouble to install but i don't think your grandma will install windows by her self
    but a windows sysadmin comes with his windows knowledge and thinks he knows how things are supposed to work
    he may be able to learn or not
    but it is not easy to bring a company with windows to use linux if they had to hire additional peoples which know linux

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  13. Re:Uhm... by Nos. · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, at my desk at work, I have one Windows (XP) box, one Linux (FC3), and one Sun Ultra 10 with Solaris. So, they're all about even on this reliable installed base.

  14. Re:Servers Might give Linux the Edge by DogDude · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm happy, she's happy. So cut the BS about grandmothers unable to cope with "Linux".

    Well, I'm not a grandmother. In fact I used to be a programmer. How about telling me what I'm supposed to do in Ubuntu when I install a new application, then there's no way to start it? I ran into that nice little problem twice just this morning. This is just one reason why Linux is just on my "fun box". I would never use it as is for anything important.

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  15. Re:Uhm... by colins · · Score: 3, Informative

    They're probably looking at the market in terms of revenue, instead of the number of installed seats.

    At about $3.5 million for a 72 processor E25K from Sun, it takes a lot of dual processor Xeon sales to catch up.

    According to IDC (http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS001 53905) the revenue in Q1 2005 was about $4.2 billion each for Unix and Windows servers (the first time Windows has pulled even with Unix), and $1.2 billion for Linux server.

    So the Unix and Windows markets in terms of server revenue are each currently about 3.5 times the size of the Linux market (based on Q1 2005).

    It's interesting to note that Linux unit shipments increased 31.1% in the quarter compared to 2004. Windows unit shipments increased 10.7% in the same period.

    -cjs

  16. It's about time by thatedeguy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With the reliability and up-time of UNIX servers and the usability of Linux, it was only a matter of time before this happened and I for one am glad it did.