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Virtual Muggings in Lineage II

electro-donkey writes "A man has been arrested in Japan after on suspicion using a bot to beat up and rob characters in the online computer game Lineage II. The stolen virtual possessions were then exchanged for real cash, according to this report from NewScienist.com. "I regularly say that every form of theft and fraud in the real world will eventually be duplicated in cyberspace," says Bruce Schneier."

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  1. Idea... by JonN · · Score: 5, Funny
    "I regularly say that every form of theft and fraud in the real world will eventually be duplicated in cyberspace,"

    What about vice versa? Because I would love to see someone wall hacking irl

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    1. Re:Idea... by FortKnox · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've tried 15 different techniques, but now I can't remember which ones I've tried and which I haven't.

      Also... is it bad to bleed out your eyeballs? Can you get your nose replaced?

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    2. Re:Idea... by Have+Blue · · Score: 4, Funny

      Screw wallhacking, help me dupe this pile of 20s.

  2. Give the guy some credit by b0r1s · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's pretty clever.

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    1. Re:Give the guy some credit by John+Seminal · · Score: 2, Funny
      Give the guy some credit

      It's pretty clever

      What would be even more clever is watching him figure out how to make prision rape less painfull. Maybe he can make a nice slippery substance out of soap.

      Seriously, this criminal is not funny. Other people invested time and money in this game, only to be cheated. This guy is a crook. If someone can do a crime on-line, they can do it in real life. It is exactly like when a child beats a dog. You just know in 10 years that kid will become a murderer. The kid lacks apathy, and that is a serious personality flaw. That is like a pit bull that bites, that specific animal is no good for anyone anymore. You have to seperate the bad from the good. Otherwise you will have 1 person costing everyone else an enjoyable life. It is a small price to pay.

      Maybe one day the internet can be used to catch people with criminal tendencies. By monitoring the actions of the young, say ages 5 to 12, I am sure an algorithm can be made that can predict with 95%+ certainty which people will end up commiting violent crimes. Society could protect itself by locking these people up before the violence.

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    2. Re:Give the guy some credit by NelsonM · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe one day the internet can be used to catch people with criminal tendencies. By monitoring the actions of the young, say ages 5 to 12, I am sure an algorithm can be made that can predict with 95%+ certainty which people will end up commiting violent crimes. Society could protect itself by locking these people up before the violence.

      I would much rather have a couple of strangers floating in a tank to decide whether or not I'm going to commit a crime. Now if only they would make a movie about this...

    3. Re:Give the guy some credit by robertjw · · Score: 2, Funny

      The kid lacks apathy, and that is a serious personality flaw.

      Um.... sympathy?


      Who cares?

    4. Re:Give the guy some credit by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Funny
      Seriously, this criminal is not funny. Other people invested time and money in this game, only to be cheated. This guy is a crook. If someone can do a crime on-line, they can do it in real life.

      To be fair, I'd actually be pretty impressed if someone built a robot in real life that could beat people up and take their money and valuables....

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  3. Could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I gotta say, a virtual mugging is much better than a real one. Unlike sex, say...

  4. New Phishing by pin_gween · · Score: 5, Funny

    Didn't fall for the "PayPal" or "eBay" scams? Watch out for the "Lineage II" phish

    "Please take a few moments out of your online gaming experience to buy the Sword of Invinciblity"

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  5. No problem by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just miniaturize http://www.baytoday.ca/content/news/details.asp?c= 6657 that and you're set.

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  6. But isn't that the point? by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny
    I have played Lineage II. It's a game _about_ beating up other players' characters and taking their lunch money. That's the whole point of the game.

    What's next? Will a man be sentenced to community service for turning over cards in Solitaire? Arrested for playing Minesweeper in an airport? Sued for using the "Undo" feature in Spider?

  7. This begs the question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    if some guys buys a Real Doll, and he's married, has he committed adultery?

    I mean, c'mon -- everyman just wants a girl who will let him watch an entire season of Stargate in one uninterrupted sitting.

  8. Re:Where the fault lies... by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny
    If you look through the archives you'll find a list of bannable offenses in one of the early patch messages. "Thou shalt not kill", "Thou shalt not steal" and... um... something like "Thou shalt not covet they neighbour's ass" are all in there. Mess with that and you're in danger of having your account suspended.

    The dev team is really too busy to go around policing every player so there are teams of volunteer guides who wear blue robes and hats to take care of that kind of thing. They don't have GM powers but the online community generally supports them in what they do.

    Getting back to the original story, I was not aware that "Using an automated system to play an online game" was a criminal offense in Japan. If it is then this guy got what was coming to him. If not then someone is either making up ex post facto laws or pulling them ex rectum.

  9. Unbeatable bots? by amrust · · Score: 2, Funny
    The assailant was a character controlled by a software bot, rather than a human player, making it unbeatable.

    Unbeatable? Those Lineage bots must be a lot better than the ones on FFXI. Those goofs can usually be outpulled/outskilled by a mental defective.

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  10. Well, I for one... by canfirman · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...welcome our new mugging bot overloards.

    Now, where's my wallet?

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  11. Re:Where the fault lies... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not a fake game.

    As opposed to a real game?

  12. Re:Where the fault lies... by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just always play as the Americans and you'll be fine.

    *ducks*

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  13. Re:Where the fault lies... by tourvil · · Score: 2, Funny
    Does this mean I'm going to get charged with murder for killing someone in Battlefield 2? Or would those be war crimes?

    Murder for killing someone. War crimes for doing a victory crouch-hump on their corpse.

  14. Re:Where the fault lies... by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 4, Funny

    In real life, we have rules which are called "laws." Account suspension happens by moving your avatar to a special facility called a "jail." Occasionally (depending on the situation), your account may be terminated entirely, often by means of "lethal injection" or "the chair."

    Oh come on, this is a fantasy world. Execution is handled by feeding your character to a dragon or dropping a boulder on their head.

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  15. Re:Where the fault lies... by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, yes, let's all blame our imaginary friends for our problems.

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  16. Re:-1: Disillusional by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 3, Funny

    Define actual.

    Real people have a pulse.

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  17. By God you mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

    If not, He will bitch-slap you with His Noodly Appendage.

  18. Re:Where the fault lies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    As long as you didn't have sex with them, you'll be fine.

  19. I beg to disagree with Schneier... by Orrin+Bloquy · · Score: 2, Funny
    "I regularly say that every form of theft and fraud in the real world will eventually be duplicated in cyberspace," says Bruce Schneier."

    I have a Polaroid of what the burglar did with my toothbrush that says different.

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  20. how about a virtual court? by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    real world crime shouldn't be decided in virtual courts

    virtual crimes shouldn't be decided in real world courts

    so what is called for here is a virtual court

    populated with individuals of good karmic standing from various games

    and whose decisions should have one and only one real world punishment: banishment from the realm of the virtual

    that is: a legally binding injunction against the offending real world individual from having any internet access at all for a period of time commensurate with their virtual crime

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  21. Re:Where the fault lies... by SharkJumper · · Score: 2, Funny

    teams of volunteer guides who wear blue robes and hats

    Blue robes, eh? Just out of curiosity, how much do you suppose those are worth?

    SharkJumper

  22. Re:Where the fault lies... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Funny

    > Clearly then, GOD is at fault for the mugging-at-gunpoint.

    Gabriel: Oh Most Holy One. It appears your virtual world of Earth has some unforseen bugs in its design. Evidently two males can position themselves in such a way as to insert the penis of one into the anus of another. This stacks with sexual desire, and suddenly males burn with lust for each other until one's precious seed is spend inside the other's filthy shithole.

    God: Me damn it! I told Lucifer that was gonna happen if I planted the deposit stalk and the vagina near the same place as the waste vomitorium. He said it wouldn't happen, but it did! I knew it would. I don't know why I trusted him.

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  23. Re:Where the fault lies... by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hmm. A bot mugged another virtual character and took virtual goods in a virtual world. I think just to tick everyone off the judge should order the bot to 20 hours virtual community service. That should do the trick.

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