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New MRI Technique Can Detect Diabetes

MonkeyBoy writes "Researchers at Joslin Diabetes Center and Massachusetts General Hospital have unveiled a new magnetic nanoparticle based magnetic resonance imaging technique that can detect diabetes even before clinical symptoms. In mice they were able to take non-invasive images of pancreatic inflammation and its reversal for type 1 diabetes. Full article is available as a PDF from Pubmedcentral. Will we see rapid translation of these pre-clinical observations to prediction and/or stratification of type 1 diabetes and treatment of individuals with the disease? This would provide a crucially needed early predictor of response to therapy. As an added bonus it looks like the analysis was done on a Linux box too."

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  1. One word for this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sweet!

  2. Why not? by SilentReallySilentUs · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure.. MRI should be able to scare away diabetes with the ridiculous sounds it makes..Gosh why did no one think of this before?

  3. Before I experience symptoms by GXFragger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yay! Now they can detect my Mountain Dew drinking habits and force me to go cold turkey even when I'm still in denial!

    1. Re:Before I experience symptoms by iamzack · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can't get Type 1 diabetes from a poor diet. Nice joke though. I'm sure my little brother, who has been taking insulin shots since he was 6 years old, would find it hillarious.

  4. Linux box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This once again proves that the OS is unimportant, and only the application matters. Who cares what OS was used to run the program that allowed this development? Certainly not the patients that benefit from it.

    http://www.residentcynic.net/

  5. MRIs gone wild by sigmaseven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's fantastic, but it's going to take a lot of persuasion to get me to go near an MRI willingly after seeing its effect on nearby hospital equipment. You're only as safe as the stupidest person in the room.

    1. Re:MRIs gone wild by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      One place I worked, the MRI was placed in the basement, just below the main server room.
      Predictably hilarious consequences happened.
      Hospital management. Gotta love 'em.

    2. Re:MRIs gone wild by deglr6328 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh please, irrational much? You could probably count the number of recorded fatal accidents in the history of MRI on one hand and how many people have had the procedure? Tens of millions, likely. The benefits of having an MRI so vastly outweigh the risks it is not even a tradeoff worth talking about at all.

      Anywho, I think that MRI is easily one of the most strangely fantastic technologies of the last 50 years. Its like a bit of the 21st century accidentally fell into the last quarter of the 20th. Think about it. This is a device which you can slide a person into and 15-20 minutes later have high resolution (millimeter scale and now in 3D if necessary) images of any part of the inside of their body, making diagnoses of certain diseases which were impossible before, possible, and doing it without any harm (not even exposure to any ionizing radiation) to the patient at all. The patient feels, smells, tastes, and sees nothing whatsoever during the entire process. It is amazing. If ever there were a technology which met Arthur Clarke's maxim of 'any sufficiently advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic', then this is it!

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    3. Re:MRIs gone wild by krautcanman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      For the most part you probably would have been ok. The chain would have ruined the data, but the MR tech would have caught that during setup. At worst the metal could heat up and burn you (no joke), though it doesn't happen most times.


      Speaking of MRIs gone wild, so many women who come in for (research) scans make some joke about how the magnet might be so strong it'll rip their bras off.

  6. Open Source Medicine? by Khyber · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just reading the summary, it says the box might run on Linux?

    This is a good thing, now if only the pharmaceutical companies would make alot of their stuff open to the public, maybe we'd all not suffer nearly as badly due to our wallets not being fat enough.

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    1. Re:Open Source Medicine? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is a good thing, now if only the pharmaceutical companies would make alot of their stuff open to the public, maybe we'd all not suffer nearly as badly due to our wallets not being fat enough.

      Methink you're talking bollocks for the sake of plugging "open source" somewhere...

      What "stuff" is it that pharmaceutical companies need to "open to the public"?

      New medicines must be fully disclosed when they undergo FDA approval, and they always end up completely open because they're patented, and a patent describe the invention/innovation completely. If you don't believe me, ask yourself how it is that countries like India or Brazil manage to copy the very latest in AIDS therapies.

      The reason you pay dearly for medicines that haven't fallen in the public domain is because yoy purchase them from the patent holders, which hold a temporary monopoly on said medicines, and therefore make you pay whatever the hell they want, to recoup their development costs and to pay for their villas in Switzerland.

      In short, it's nothing to do with being open, and all to do with patents. Wrong Slashdot meme there bubba...

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  7. Re:useless!!! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    This doesn't belong on Slashdot.

    Of course it does. Given the sedentary lifestyle of many Slashdotters, it concerns them most directly.

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  8. All I know is... by yellowbkpk · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was just at a meeting at a meeting at a major healthcare company, and number two on the list of priorities for the next 3 years was diabetes detection/prevention. The budget was in the billions.

    These guys will be making a LOT of money.

  9. Fullfilling MRI's promise (sort of) by IvyKing · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The original push for MRI (from Damadian) was to locate cancers - the main benefit is eliminating a lot of exploratory surgeries. In this case it eliminates the need for biopsies (which, from TFA, are rarely performed due to the risk). Very nice work.

    This is an interesting application of magneto-immunoassay - using the change in magnetic properties to determine if there has been a reaction.

  10. Get The Facts by pin_gween · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am posting instead of replying b/c there are already several separate posts that have it wrong. Gasp and shock, I know.

    Type I diabetes is NOT associated with diet.

    This article refers to an autoimmune disease, not a lifestyle induced one.

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  11. PubMed abstract by whovian · · Score: 4, Informative

    J Clin Invest. 2005 Aug 18; [Epub ahead of print] Related Articles, Links

            Noninvasive imaging of pancreatic inflammation and its reversal in type 1 diabetes.
    Turvey SE, Swart E, Denis MC, Mahmood U, Benoist C, Weissleder R, Mathis D.

            Section on Immunology and Immunogenetics, Joslin Diabetes Center, and Department of Medicine, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts, USA.

            A major stumbling block for research on and treatment of type 1 diabetes is the inability to directly, but noninvasively, visualize the lymphocytic/inflammatory lesions in the pancreatic islets. One potential approach to surmounting this impediment is to exploit MRI of magnetic nanoparticles (MNP) to visualize changes in the microvasculature that invariably accompany inflammation. MNP-MRI did indeed detect vascular leakage in association with insulitis in murine models of type 1 diabetes, permitting noninvasive visualization of the inflammatory lesions in vivo in real time. We demonstrate, in proof-of-principle experiments, that this strategy allows one to predict, within 3 days of completing treatment with an anti-CD3 monoclonal antibody, which NOD mice with recent-onset diabetes are responding to therapy and may eventually be cured. Importantly, an essentially identical MNP-MRI strategy has previously been used with great success to image lymph node metastases in prostate cancer patients. This success strongly argues for rapid translation of these preclinical observations to prediction and/or stratification of type 1 diabetes and treatment of individuals with the disease; this would provide a crucially needed early predictor of response to therapy.

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  12. MRI by mchawi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have heard from several people that have had an MRI that (a) it is almost impossible to get scheduled in any reasonable timeframe for one and (b) they are 'incredibly expensive'.

    For something like diabetes that can be diagnosed in other ways, I don't see a normal doctor or health insurance company prescribing an MRI. Health care is one of the areas where capitalism is really the wrong motivation (because our long term health is not their concern - just short term costs).

    I guess I'm just cynical, but I see some of these great advances being almost useless to the majority of people because they simply can't afford it or don't even have healthcare.

    I keep hoping for things to change though :)

    1. Re:MRI by rcolquhoun · · Score: 5, Interesting


      I have heard from several people that have had an MRI that (a) it is almost impossible to get scheduled in any reasonable timeframe for one and (b) they are 'incredibly expensive'.


      So is diabetes.

      I am a type 1 diabetic and it costs thousands perhaps 10's of thousands per year to manage(if you include side effects, lost opportunities etc). This will be the case for the rest of my life(hopefully 50+ years, although diabetes has a major effect in shortening it).

      If it can be prevented by a series of MRI's + drugs or any other treatment for that matter that costs less than say $100k if will be economic for most pre-type 1 patients(ie children) to undertake.

        - Robert

    2. Re:MRI by Sparr0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, if you have insurance. And if you don't, you're fucked. And if everyone had insurance... then there would be waiting lists.

  13. Dystopia by philovivero · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Will we see rapid translation of these pre-clinical observations to prediction and/or stratification of type 1 diabetes and treatment of individuals with the disease? This would provide a crucially needed early predictor of response to therapy.


    Perhaps this wonderful new technology will be used by insurance companies to deny your child insurance before the diabetes could possibly cut into their profit margins?

    Sorry. There should be a "cynic" moderation.
    1. Re:Dystopia by philovivero · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hmm. It does occur to me that post could be seen as flamebait. Allow me to elaborate.

      My wife got pregnant and got what apparently is a common problem: diabetes. She controlled it using exercise and diet. Then, after she gave birth the diabetes does what it does when it's pregnancy diabetes: it went away.

      Then, about a year later, I changed jobs and decided I wanted to get insurance for her independent of the job, because their insurance was expensive. We answered all the questions on their questionnaire, including the requisite "diabetes" question. We then filled out in the "explanation for 'yes' answers" section a note about how the diabetes was minor and temporary.

      They categorically denied to insure her in any way, shape, or form. No "You are qualified for our high-risk" plan or anything, just: "You are uninsurable by us (go to hell)."

      So actually we kind of live in the dystopia I described. When I read this story, I wonder to myself "Could this tendency toward diabetes that she got have been detected, and if so, would she have been preemptively cured, or preemptively disallowed from being insured?"

      Think about it.

  14. Re:why not do something to stop it? by Werkhaus · · Score: 3, Funny

    That first link is complete quackery. There is NO TREATMENT for Type I diabetes except insulin, PERIOD. I'm a diabetic, I know this.

    There's plenty of treatments for Type I diabetes, providing you don't mind ketoacidosis, hyperglycemia, impotence, blindness and all the other fun side-effects.

    Mind you, anyone that takes health advice from /. deserves everything that happens to them.

  15. Extremely preminary data by martalli · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a doctor, I had a few observations about this
    stusdy. These researchers demonstrated that an
    MRI can find evidence of diabetes in mice before
    the development of clinical symptoms. How does
    this relate to people?

    1. Practical: Type I diabetes typically develops in
    children, who usually must be sedated and
    observed for an MRI. This could double the cost
    of the MRI (typically $1-2k in US). Also, we
    don't know how long these findings are present
    before diabetes develops ... how often would
    this need to be done?

    2. The Incidence of type I diabetes is about
    0.4% among people without relatives with
    type I. First degree relatives have a 5-30%
    risk... Certain genes predispose to type I
    diabetes.... maybe this could be used in certain
    people.

    3. Since there is no such early diagnosis, we
    don't really know who we might treat this
    pre-type I state. Certainly we could make a
    few reasonable guesses, but any benefit is
    still in doubt until there are human trials.

    I think this will definitely be more handy when
    tricorders are perfected!

    1. Re:Extremely preminary data by martalli · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sometimes, a person's immune system might confuse some viral proteins with the proteins on the pancreatic beta cells (which make insulin). This leads to the immune system attacking the beta cells. Eventually no beta cells are left and a person requires insulin to replace their natural insulin production.

      There is nolikely specific infection which causes diabetes. However, some viruses may be more likely to confuse the immune system. Also, your immune system's genetic makeup may predispose it to confusing the virus and the beta cells.

      Insulin is required to move glucose from the bloodstream into cells. Without it, the bloodstream glucose level rises until glucose spills out into the urine. In fact, diabetes mellitus is Greek for "sweet urine". Unfortunately, diabetics are literally starving in a sea of food.

  16. This creates more questions than it solves by rc5-ray · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (Disclaimer: I'm a primary care doctor in the USA. I have a few type I diabetics, and many type IIs.)

    First, I think it's great that the researchers have demonstrated a potential way to identify pre-clinical type I diabetes. If these patients could be easily identified and the pathologic process halted or reversed, this would be one of the greatest feats ever accomplished in medicine.

    However, this approach has several problems. Another poster has already mentioned that health insurance companies could start denying coverage to kids(and adults) who don't have diabetes, but might get it. If you're a health plan administrator, diabetes is a very, very expensive disease and you want to avoid these patients.

    (Whether health insurance companies should even be in the business to make a profit is a topic for another debate. Short answer: It's absolutely wrong.)

    More importantly, who do you screen with MRI? Do you screen every child at age 5 (or another pre-defined age)? Do you only screen them once? It's true that most type I patients are diagnosed by the early teens, but a significant portion develop the disease in their later teens or twenties. I have a 20 year old patient who was just diagnosed with type I after the birth of her first child. I also had a medical school classmate who was diagnosed while in his residency.

    Once you've decided who you'll screen and at what age and interval, how do you pay for it? This cannot be ignored. An abdominal MRI can cost $1-3,000, and you often need to sedate patients because it's quite claustrophobic. If you were to screen every child only once, the cost would skyrocket into billions of dollars almost immediately.

  17. Wrong subject by waffffffle · · Score: 3, Funny

    The subject of this thread is not correct for the Slashdot audience. A more appropriate subject would be "Linux cures diabetes."

  18. False Questions by lousyd · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Will we see rapid translation of these pre-clinical observations to prediction and/or stratification of type 1 diabetes and treatment of individuals with the disease?

    Yes.

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  19. Perhaps I'm missing something, seems Foobar'ed by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 3, Interesting
    AS a Type 2 Diabetic, This scheme sounds ridiculous as a *useful* tool: For several reasons:
    • Most diabetics are "type 2", which usually dont have anything to do with pancreatic inflamation.
    • Even for "type 1's" or peole at risk of type 1, what are they supposed to do, get a MRI every day, at $800 per scan?
    • Even so, even if an inflammation is found, what can be done? Be on immuno-surpressors for a long long time?
    This sounds like a technique more usueful for ivory-tower research on the progression of inflamation, not terribly useful to the end sufferer.