Drug Reverses Effects of Sleep Deprivation
Ryan O'Rourke writes "According to a study led by Dr. Sam A. Deadwyler and published by the Public Library of Science Biology, a new drug called CX717 developed by Cortex Pharmaceuticals has been shown to reverse the biological and behavioral effects of sleep deprivation. Tests performed on monkeys that were subjected to 30-36 hours of sleep deprivation revealed an average test performance accuracy drop to 63 percent, but that performance was restored to 84 percent after administering CX717. During normal alert conditions, performance accuracy of the animals was improved from an average of 75 percent to 90 percent after an injection of CX717. It is also believed the drug may help prevent or restore memory loss in Alzheimer's patients."
I don't like this. Sleep deprivation effects are there for a reason, to signal that you need to sleep. I can understand if people who can't sleep and need to be alert need to use this (e.g. soldiers in combat), but it's not going to be very good for the average person who needs to do some more work. People need to sleep for various reasons (rest, various chemicals get regenerated, etc). It's not a whim of nature.
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If I stopped reading slashdot until 12:00AM that would help with my sleep deprivation, without the use of drugs.
I have a feeling most other computer users would find the same benefits from turning off their computers at 10:00PM.
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...we'll all be working 36 hour shifts.
Methamphetamine?
Watch, coffee and pop will soon have versions of with this drug and without this drug. Soon the human race will become dependant on this just as we are on caffinee.
I read somewhere that a significant biologic reason for sleep was simply that animals who laid down in a dark place for half the time had an evolutionary advantage over thos who didn't (it's about 50% harder to be eaten by a predator if 50% of your time your asleep)...
Rather than do the usual slashdot "Science is EViL" thing, why not really think about the potential here...
Yes, they will probably discover that over use of this has some serious side effect, but all that means is that it shouldn't be over used... It does not mean that we all need to run an hide...
For being a site full of geeks this place is remarkably anti science sometimes...
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Drugs like this end up messing up more than helping. A drug that can alter your normal biological functions (tiredness) and turn you more active cannot have good effects. You need sleep, simple as that. Maybe work should become more efficient instead of keeping people awake (or monkeys).
--gks
Revision: "reverse [some of] the biological and behavioral effects of sleep deprivation"
This drug also increased test performance in the control group. The increase in test performance was slightly more pronounced in the sleep-deprived group.
Caffeine would likely show similar results, as would nasal decongestants and stimulant diet pills (both of which are amphetamines).
Hell, for that matter, I bet crystal meth, in low doses, would produce the same effect.
Meh, wake me up when the real fix for sleep deprivation is discovered... oh, wait...
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I think we should all be focusing on being able to work better instead of being able to work longer. I've been doing a lot of introspective thinking about how much I work vs. how much actually gets done. And really its only the last 4 hours before a deadline that the work gets done - regardless of how many all-nighters were pulled.
So while getting read of sleep deprivation effects might be nice, I really just need a drug that'll push me into the last-mile mindset and get me to actually do the amazing work that gets done under pressure. Caffeine and nicotine just don't cut it anymore.
Heck, like one of the replies to your post mentions, the C in this drug could stand for cocaine and it'd probably have the same effect if it WAS just cocaine, except maybe with the downside of addiction.
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I think they just invented meth.
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Heck, like one of the replies to your post mentions, the C in this drug could stand for cocaine and it'd probably have the same effect if it WAS just cocaine, except maybe with the downside of addiction.
Except that no-body holds the patent on cocaine so its illegal.
But regarding addiction, at least you can make an argument with cocaine against using it. But this - I can see bosses coming along and expecting employees to just pop one of these in order to pull off a 48 hour overtime to meet a deadline. And you know that some idiot employees will be escalating the standards of company loyalty by using these.
Honestly, we shouldn't be looking at ways of improving our capacity to work. We not only devote more time to work than our ancestors, but 90% of us aren't even working for ourselves. We have modern technology, farming techniques, transport and communication. One person does what would take a hundred a century ago and our hours are going up?
We don't need a pill to help us work harder, we just need to adjust our expectations.
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How long till WoW vendors start selling this stuff?
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd= Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1462046 8&query_hl=4
While they argue that this drug is different because of possibly less abuse potential (yet have no data to back that assertation up with, such as self-reinforcing studies in animals), I think the real reason is because pharmaceutical patents only last 20 years. As far as abuse potential goes, addiction is usually characterized by increased dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens, of which amphetamine activates indirectly; I have seen no evidence as to whether or not CX717 will indirectly raise dopamine levels in that region of the brain as well.
They may claim they're not stimulants, but the action is that of binding to receptors and releasing a neurotransmitter called glutamate. Is that really so different than stimulants binding to a receptor and releasing norepinephrine, another neurotransmitter?
From the journal article, revealed increased activity in prefrontal cortex, dorsal striatum, and medial temporal lobe (including hippocampus) that was significantly enhanced over normal alert conditions following administration of CX717. You would see similar increases in brain activity following the administration of amphetamine as well.
Furthermore, high levels of glutamate have neurotoxic properties: In excess, glutamate causes neuronal damage and eventual cell death, particularly when NMDA receptors are activated.
Somehow though, I think the combination of a pharmaceutical company making $2.00 in profit per pill combined with possibly less of an abuse potential or political incorrectness of usage will make this drug preferred in spite of whatever risks it carries.
Of course, maybe I'm just bitter and skeptical in my old age.
Don't you think you're exaggerating just a tad? Do you really expect employers to hand out drugs that they require their employees to take? Having a coffee pot in the break room and maybe some sammiches is the closest I've EVER seen (or heard of) to an employer providing (not even requiring) a work enhancing substance to their employees. Even if this drug passes FDA approval, you think it'll be cheap, safe in large quantites, or non-prescription?
The only real "work-place" application I can see for this is extended military missions. People like pilots and snipers could/would use this to great advantage and the miliary is the only organization with enough clout to try to make this mandatory for certain people in their "work force."
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Don't you think you're exaggerating just a tad? Do you really expect employers to hand out drugs that they require their employees to take?
No, I don't think I'm exagerating, and I'd also expect employees to have to fork out for this from their own pockets.
Why do I think my scenario is plausible? Firstly, there is nothing in TFA that suggests that this drug will be a prescription only drug, or in fact anything other than an over-the-counter tablet. Indeed, there would be many complaints if it weren't - "I crashed my car because they wouldn't sell me this at the garage and I fell asleep at the wheel."
Secondly, given it's likely widespread availability, the effect is likely to be one of relegating sleep deprivation to the same level of headaches, et al. Tell many employers that you're taking the day off because of a headache?!?! Unless you get actual migraines, most would expect you to just take some paracetemol if it were really that bad and get on with it. Sleep deprivation is about to become the same. And you know that there will be idiot co-workers who start using this stuff to put in even more hours. And then there will be those who use it to have more late nights without interfering with work the next day. All of which increases its acceptance and leads to that moment when after a 14-hour day and the project still not finished, the use of this stuff is sort of expected.
First it will be the super-star employee who is still fresh when everyone else is starting to type with their noses, then it will be most of the people, then it will be all of them looking at you as you struggle to work saying "Look, why don't you just take one of these? You're letting us down."
I'm happy to be proved wrong on this, but, pending serious side-effects, I don't think I am.
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"Except that no-body holds the patent on cocaine so its illegal."
I can't believe that reasoning.
First: Asprin and Alcohol aren't patented, and aren't illegal.
Second: Lots of patented drugs are VERY illegal. (It takes a lot of money, time, red tape, and testing to get a new patented drug to the point where it is even legal to test on people.)
But then you say:
"We don't need a pill to help us work harder, we just need to adjust our expectations."
Which I totally agree with.
Exam 4/C again. Maybe I'll do better this time.
Your tin-foil hat is showing again.
Your ad hominem attacks are crude and blatant.
You misread my comments about use of these drugs at work. My reply to a previous poster will help you.
Regarding my sarcastic aside that cocaine would be legal if one of the big pharmaceuticals had a patent on it? Yeah - I don't think that's so far from the truth. Prozac is more damaging than (reasonable usage of MDMA) and that's legal where the other is not. Ritalin is very little different in effect and chemical structure to the speed you'll get on the street, yet one is legal and the other not. Marijuana is not super for your health, but I can make a strong case that it's less damaging than alcohol and no-one's ever got stoned and then gone out physically aggressive with me like they have when they're drunk. Yet one is legal and the other is not. Whether coke would pass the FDA if it were developed today? Maybe, maybe not. I'd say yes for prescription use.
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Taking it to stay competitive is a far cry from being mandatory. Here's a stretch: Steroids enhance athletic ability and many athletes take them to stay competitive "Because taht guy did it and the only way to beat him is to take them too."
What I see happening is substances like this coming out and then people will abuse them. They will become addicted to them. Maybe not physically, but psychologically. "I can't be the best at my job if I don't take these so bottoms up!" As soon as abuse is spotted, public outcry will commence, support groups will spring up and tehy will become as popular as caffeine pills and speed. Not to say that caffeine pills aren't a problem, but they aren't mandatory by any employer and any company that doesn't want a lawsuit will not recommend or even offer them to their employees.
Your ideas have some merit to them and the "Look, why don't you just take one of these? You're letting us down." situation will probably occur, but it won't be at the company level. It will strictly be from employee to employee, peer to peer. Does your company have NoDoz (tm) in the break room? I doubt it.
Lastly, you "I crashed my car because they wouldn't sell me this at the garage and I fell asleep at the wheel." situation is not too likely in my mind. I can complain that my doctor didn't give me an adrenaline shot so I couldn't lift the car off of my wife when we got into a wreck. Ok, bad example, but anywho. I don't think you'll ever be able to register a justifiable complaint against someone because they didn't provide you with performance enhancing (because that's essentially what this is) drugs in any situation. You can complain on a medical basis (ie. my doctor wouldn't give me enough insulin and I went into a diabetic coma) but not on a supplemental basis.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to register a justifiable complaint against someone because they didn't provide you with performance enhancing (because that's essentially what this is) drugs in any situation.
This is a performance enhancing drug, no need to qualify it. But people don't have to lodge a successful court case to get it legalised. The situation is a big pharmaceutical company wanting it sold everywhere and a public that will grouse if it isn't. 1 + 1 = 2 much pressure to resist. Short of serious side-effects, this will be a common over-the-counter medicine. By serious side-effects, I mean the medically inevitable things like kidney damage, et al. Not the equally serious but non-blameable-on-a-company side-effects of misuse (i.e. repeated or sustained use).
any company that doesn't want a lawsuit will not recommend or even offer them to their employees.
Company doesn't have to offer these to employees or require them. It'll just become part of the culture.
Taking it to stay competitive is a far cry from being mandatory.
This is my point. It isn't. What we need a cultural change so that it is.
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" it can be very helpful for people who other things don't work for"
Well that can be said about medical Marijuana. Do we have to get Merck of Phizer to want to market, and profit from it, to get the Federal government to allow it. For people wanting to expand their consciousness I image LSD is helpful. For people looking to improve their sociability Ecstasy is very helpful.
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Ritalin/Adderall (your misspelling has me wondering how credible your knowledge is) are simialr to methamphetamine, but what does that have to do with anything? Similar chemicals can behave in VASTLY different ways.
They ARE NOT however, even remotely similar to cocaine, and by making such a statement, you show how little understanding you have of the chemistry involved.
As a long-time sufferer of obstructive sleep apnea (got the official diagnosis today in fact, after 15 or more years suffering from it), and showing all of the symptoms of it including extreme weight gain, lack of coordination, restlessness , ittitability, fatigue, and so on, I think I speak for everyone here - I'd much rather correct the problem of sleep deprivation itself than take some drug that claims to restore my mental state (in the case of depression: Zoloft, anyone?)
The few pills I take every day are already enough - stop typing to shove MORE chemicals down my throat that only take care of the symptoms, and start fixing the problem at the source. That's where our research needs to be focused, for *any* condition that needs corrected.
If the problem is lack of sleep because of lack of time or deadlines or something, then maybe a change of career or priorities is needed. But if it's medical, then corrective *action* is needed. I had to get totally out of the working world because I couldn't handle it anymore, and it was literally killing me. Is it really so hard then, to keep your job and just adjust your lifestyle to make more time for sleep?
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