Slashdot Mirror


Terabyte DVD Recorder Available Next Month

It doesn't come easy writes "Japan's Hitachi Ltd. on Wednesday unveiled the world's first hard disk drive/DVD recorder that can store one terabyte of data, or enough to record about 128 hours of high-definition digital broadcasting."

41 of 246 comments (clear)

  1. "1 TB by VeganBob · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...should be enough for anyone." - Robert M. Baldwin

    --
    Being funny is my sig nature.
    1. Re:"1 TB by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny
      Just tried ...
      #include <iostream>
      #include <ostream>
       
      int main()
      {
        std::cout << (10^10^10) << " bytes should be enough for anyone.\n";
      }
      Sorry, 10 bytes are not enough for me!

      SCNR
      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    2. Re:"1 TB by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Funny
      Isn't entertainment so troublesome? I mean, we could have such fulfilling lives if civilization wasn't being constantly rammed down our throats.

      Civilisation? I thought we were talking about television.

  2. Now... by Musteval · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We just need to get some high-definition digital broadcasting that's worth watching.

    --
    Note to mods: I'm probably being sarcastic.
  3. Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? by ducklord · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...if it writes 1TByte in the HDs, and not on the DVDs. It's a usual TIVO-style device, with 1Tbyte of HD storage and a dvd-writer. Nothing to see here... Move along...

    1. Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? by iso · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's actually worse than that. They bill this as a way to store "HD" broadcasts. That means 720p or 1080i/p broadcats. That's great, but if you actually burn these to DVD you're stuck with the maximum DVD resolution of 480p!

      Why would anybody buy this for "HD" content when they can't take the HD content off of the device without downscaling it out of HD? Now if this came with a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD burner, it would make sense. Guaranteed they'll have a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD model of this out within 6-8 months.

    2. Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? by angle_slam · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Why would anybody buy this for "HD" content

      Here's a guess--to record HD content onto their DVR. Since the box will be hooked up to their HD player, why would they want to record to media anyway?

  4. Meh by MacroRex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's an ordinary DVD recorder with a largish amount of disk in it.

    And here I was thinking that it can write a terabyte to a optical disk. Oh well...

    1. Re:Meh by sonoluminescence · · Score: 3, Funny

      "We entered the market last year and have only been able to grab about 3 percent of the market."

      Now with our over-priced 'two hard disks and a standard DVD recorder' we confidently predict that we will hold at least 2.5 percent by next year.

      --
      Karma: Bad. Calmer, good.
  5. Wow! by Knossos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just imagine the amount of por.... Er... Integral office backups you could store...

    --
    Android Software Engineer
    1. Re:Wow! by welshwaterloo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Good job you stopped yourself before you let slip about your secret stash of porky the pig erotic fan fiction...

  6. Media by kevin_conaway · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is the price of media for these things?

    The article pointed out that the US market seems more interested in DVRs, than DVD Recorders and I agree with that assessment. Most of the TV I record is throw-away stuff that I want to watch for a couple times and then delete.

    1. Re:Media by WTBF · · Score: 3, Informative

      What is the price of media for these things?

      It takes normal DVD's - and so not that much, since you can get a pack of 25 for £5 in the UK (single layer), and it is probably cheaper elsewhere.

  7. dam thats a lot of space for all your pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    128 hrs of watching your porn movies its gonna do something to ya!

  8. calrification by justforaday · · Score: 4, Informative

    The DVDs are still 4.7GB capacity. The hard disk space in the device equals 1TB (2 x 500GB).

    --
    I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
  9. RTFA... by unsupported · · Score: 4, Informative

    RTFA!

    "...which stores data on two 500 gigabyte hard disk drives..."

    It isn't a terrabyte DVD, it's a terrabyte of HDD storage.

    -Un

    --
    Yopu for you?
  10. Yen to dollars by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    From TFA:
    The recorders will go on sale in Japan from next month. They are expected to retail from about 130,000 yen (approx. 1,181 USD) for the cheapest model to 230,000 yen (approx. 2,090 USD) for the one-terabyte recorder, which stores data on two 500 gigabyte hard disk drives.
    --
    ____

    ~ |rip/\/\aster /\/\onkey

  11. Re:And it costs... by NickCatal · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got one for about $15 bucks back in Elementary School. Probably have it somewhere around the house.

    --
    -nick
  12. Copyright charges by jurt1235 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Overhere there is an extra charge in a law which charges a price per MB or per hour of recording. Just in case you make a copy of something (I think that legalizes my copying, I already paid for it, didn't I??). Anyway the charge for 1TB could become interesting. The charge for a GB device would have become Euro 2.50 (Luckily it bounced, now we only pay for CDs (~Euro 0.20) and DVDs (Euro ~0.50 depending on the type of DVD). But 2.5 per GB, hum, Euro 1700 for the device, Euro 2500 for the dutch RIAA....

    --

    My wife's sketchblog Blob[p]: Gastrono-me
  13. It still makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We all know that you could make your own box with it for much cheaper, but in general, the real top of the line models for consumer electronics still sell well, simply for being top of the line. That, and it may push the other companies to boost their hard disk sizes. So why all the negativity here?

    Extra competition is good...

  14. In other news... by b06r011 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sony are announcing a 2TB DVD recorder, using a 4 500GB HDD's in a rack, a DVD player, a connection lead and a roll of duck tape.

    we also have unconfirmed reports of someone reading an article on the news site slashdot before writing a comment about it... these reports remain unconfirmed...

  15. Re:And it costs... by welshwaterloo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    For $2100, I can build my own damn recorder.

    *sigh* Yes. We know. We know that for that price, many ./'s could roll their own, but we don't have to hear that every darn time. Because every darn time that means some sucker like me has to point out that they're not marketing the product to you. They're marketing to money-rich, time-poor folks who don't want to build their own, they want to splash down the cash for something that just *works*.

    It's like saying: £1.20 for eggs! For that money I could raise my own chickens & save a few ££s.. £5 for cigarettes! For that money I can grow my own tobacco!
    I really could go on all day here..

  16. But what do you record? by ChrisF79 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a DVR that my cable company provided me with and I can't imagine it has much space on it at all but I still can't come close to filling the thing up. I would guess that if I went on vacation and let it do its thing for a week, it would be somewhere around 20% full. When I received the device, I went through and put all of my favorite shows in the queue and I'm constantly adding other shows to try out but there really just aren't that many programs/movies out there that I want to record. Now, that's just my own experience but what about the rest of you? Are any of you routinely running out of space and thinking, "If I only had a 1TB DVR, this would be so much better." Even with the HD content taking up more space, when I only have about 10 HD channels, it is impossible for me to fill up my DVR.

    --
    Finance tutorials and more! Understandfinance
  17. Re:What's so special ... by databyss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's even less special is that it's only 2 hard drives.

    --
    Hmmm witty sig or funny sig? Maybe elitest techy sig!
  18. Here comes the math (Thanks google) by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to http://nedron.net/fom_server/cache/62.html
    HDTV is approx. 19.3 megabit/sec
    Google sez:
    1TB / 19.2 megabit / second in hours = 121.362963 hours

    Which is actually not nearly as much of a marketing lie as I expected.

    --
    Pain lasts, kid. Its how you know you're alive. Sometimes I think this growing up thing is just pain management-TheMaxx
  19. A distinct difference by Iriel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As great as this device may or may not be, all the details I've seen surounding it still leave out on crucial piece of infomation:

    Point: It will be available next month.

    Counter-point: How soon will it be replacing normal DVD recorders at Walmart?

    In other words, until it becomes widely marketed and distributed, it could (keyword: could) become just another niche device to die out in another year or so due to overwhelming cost of media.

    --
    Perfecting Discordia
    www.stevenvansickle.com
  20. They didn't say by suso · · Score: 2, Funny

    how big the DVDs were physically. Its probably one of those new 5 foot in diameter discs that has a fork lift tray and disel powered motor. They didn't say anything about the laser. Sharks?

  21. What about the previous multi tuner recorder ? by AwaxSlashdot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remind of a multituner recorder from Sony(?) posted here in /. able to record up to 7 channels at the sametime for up to 1 week of data per channel. Does anyone remember the name of this baby and the amount of storage it had ?

    --
    Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)
  22. Re:And it costs... by clickety6 · · Score: 5, Funny



    It's like saying: £1.20 for eggs! For that money I could raise my own chickens & save a few ££s.. £5 for cigarettes! For that money I can grow my own tobacco!


    yeah, it's like telling a hooker - "$100 for sex for that money I could... errr... errr... OK, here's the 100 bucks"

    --
    ----------------------------------- My Other Sig Is Hilarious -----------------------------------
  23. Re:What's so special ... by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since PCs only have so many IDE/SATA buses, you want to squeeze into as little number of drives as possible. Really I miss the days of SCSI and 10+ devices daisy chain.

  24. Read story without registration by blastard · · Score: 3, Informative
  25. Buy all the multi-disk sets again by Red+Prince · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wonder if they'll re-release Lord of the Rings Star Wars Matrix Star Trek Various TV Series This could get expensive . . . for the convenience of 1 disk.

  26. This could probably be easily outdone by suitepotato · · Score: 2

    with a MythTV running on a Beowulf cluster. It would take some work, but a small cadre of geeks who know their way around writing drivers and such would no doubt be able to create a central MythTV for an entire house of users that simultaneously recorded everything that fifteen people wanted on a RAID array. I wouldn't be surprised if someone's actually working on it or done it by now.

    Then all we need is a well documented website showing us all how to do it complete with prepackaged ready to boot distro DVD. A home multimedia server without proprietary DRM and a jukebox dual-layer burner and CableCARD in a 19 inch rack cabinet would rock. Until then, I'll make do with my cable company PVR.

    --
    If my grammar and spelling are off, I am [distracted/tired/careless] (take your pick)
  27. Bah! Damn corprate hell. by dieman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The problem I have is that we need 5c to be able to easily record off of cable boxes. (or cablecard) Both of those restrict us away from like MythTV and force people to use 'set top boxes'. So yeah, 2 500gb disks and a comptuer may be far less than $2k, but hey, you can't actually record with anything else!

    Nothing like fake markets with controlled entry!

    --
    -- dieman - Scott Dier
  28. Ohmmm.... by Fordiman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that I have my video recorder, which watches tedious television for me so I don't have to, I wonder what would happen if I cross-connected it to my electric monk...

    --
    110100 1101000 1101000 1100110 0 1101111 1101000 1100011 1
  29. You would be srprised... by adnausium · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I download all my TV shows all in DIVX format, tranfer them to my Xbox and watch them at my leisure. I have two 250GB hdd's in my Xbox of which about 350-400gb is either movies or TV shows (often an entire series). If i was recording all this stuff from a set top box i could see where someone could need more than a Terabyte...especially if it was HD content (which the majority of TV shows I watch are). The thing is I dont have time to watch TV or movies every week, I save them up and watch a bunch all at once when i have a spare weekend or im sick. I literally save stuff for months, I have some stuff on thier right now that I have had since last November. And then what if i want to save some stuff...I have another 250GB on my PC that I use soley as an archive of things i might watch again or want to save incase someone else might want to watch it. give me 2T :)

    --
    Don't ya hate it when the correct spelling of your favorite screen name is taken?
  30. Who comes up with this stuff? by qw(name) · · Score: 2, Funny


    Another graduate of the Sally Fields School of Mass Marketing Technology!

    From the article:

    One terabyte is equal to 1 trillion bytes of data. One gigabyte equals 1 billion bytes.
  31. Pointing out the bad obviously math by domito · · Score: 2, Informative

    "One terabyte is equal to 1 trillion bytes of data. One gigabyte equals 1 billion bytes."

    When actually:

    One Terabyte = 1099511627776 bytes of data
    One Gigabyte = 1073741824 bytes of data
    One Megabyte = 1048576 bytes of data
    One Kilobyte = 1024 bytes of data

    So what you have here is a 0.91Tb drive not a 1Tb drive as advertised.

    If memory serves this whole 1Mb=1,000,000 bytes thing was started by Maxtor in the 90s to make their drives look bigger than the competition. This kind of math may be easier, but it's still incorrect with respect to HDD storage. Damn you Maxtor!

    Domito

  32. "Duck tape" is actually a legitimate term by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 2, Funny

    IT'S DUCT TAPE!!! DUCT. NOT DUCK. DUCT.

    Actually, I thought the same thing until very recently when I was corrected on - ironically enough - Slashdot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_tape

    "Your" in need of calming down. Maybe you should sit down over "their" and rest. ;)

    --
    The Overrated mod is for reversing inappropriate, positive mods, not for voicing disagreement with a post.
  33. Re:And it costs... by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    See that? "News for Nerds." That pretty much rules out "people don't know anything about putting together DVD recorders or computers"

    But it doesn't say "news for petty insecure nerds." This is a cool toy. It is being mass marketed. That is news for nerds. Whether you can or can not build your own for less is irrelevant to the fact that someone is finally marketing it. If you can build your own for less than half the price and just as usable, then you are a complete moron. You should be out there building them and selling them, and you'd be a millionaire soon. Instead, you are either too lazy or too incompetent to be able to make a business out of it, so you just boast about how easy it would be for you to do it, not that you ever have or will do it.

  34. Re:And it costs... by IdleTime · · Score: 2, Interesting

    *sigh*

    I don't care about building my own PVR, it's not in my gate of interest. A prebuilt device like this is very much of interest to me and I have no problems shelling out $2100 for such a gadget to go with my $8000 HD plasma TV and my $1500 Home theater system.

    Some of us are more interested in making money than to fiddle around with an old PC and some crappy software that may or may not work after you have spendt 200+ hours debugging shitty OSS code. No thanks! $2100 is more than worth it to me.

    --
    If you mod me down, I *will* introduce you to my sister!