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Linspire 5.0 Free For Limited Time

drunkennewfiemidget writes "The people at Linspire are giving Linspire 5.0 away for free (digital download only) until September 6th. Simply go to purchase the $49.95 digital edition, and then enter coupon code 'freespire' to receive a $49.95 discount." From the site: "'Freespire' was the term Andrew Betts gave to a private project he had been working on. The project comprised various open source components, taken from the freely available source repository for the Linspire operating system...Linspire has no problem with anyone using the open source code from our operating system - in fact we applaud such projects. The name Freespire, however, did create some confusion in the short time it was used...We thought it would be fun, for all of those who were looking at this project to experience a true 'Freespire', to give away a free digital copy of Linspire for a few days!"

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  1. n/t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, BeOS did this right before they died too.

    1. Re:n/t by OrangeSpyderMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would hardly call BeOS "dead".

      Yes, my Commodre64 still works. Doesn't stop it being dead ;-)

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    2. Re:n/t by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've got a free version of Windows 2003 (currently situated under my coffee mug).

      Is that dead too? >g<

    3. Re:n/t by JPriest · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Someone else start giving away a distro based on Linspire and named it Freespire. They ended up having Freespire renamed to "squiggle" to eliminate product confusion! That reminds me of another story I know :)

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  2. Poor server... by doxology · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks like server suicide to me...

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    1. Re:Poor server... by Rhett's+Dad · · Score: 2, Funny

      Server suicide is right... I'm watching the paint dry and the grass grow while just trying to go forward one single web page... just when I thought I finally got a successful "Check Out", I'm stuck in the mud trying to "Create a New Account" !@#$%^

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  3. Digital Download? by Ryan+Huddleston · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was hoping for the analog one...

    1. Re:Digital Download? by Heem · · Score: 4, Funny

      they have that too.. you call a phone number and a customer service rep reads you the source code, line by line.

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  4. eh? by Deitheres · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now, I'll admit I've never checked out Linspire before (I always used Debian, RedHat, or Ubuntu), but doesn't the GPL require that you give away Linux? I mean, I know you can still charge for it, but you have to provide the source code free of charge (AFAIK)

    Can someone clarify this for me?

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    1. Re:eh? by brilinux · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think that you answered this yourself; you may sell it, but those to whom you do sell it are entitled to the source as well. Linspire, however, has a good bit of proprietary stuff in it to which the source it not available (and it is not GPLed).

    2. Re:eh? by chill · · Score: 5, Informative

      Linspire does make the source available to GPL code. However, their distro includes Sun's JVM, Macromedia's Flash plug-in, Acroread, Real Player and several other non-free bits and pieces.

      They also have a legally-licensed DVD player (plug-in to Xine) and MP3 codec that are available cheaply ($5 ?) to subscribers.

      So, the entire PACKAGE isn't available for give away - normally.

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    3. Re:eh? by hoka · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe that the way it works is that you must distribute source to those people that you distribute binaries to. So if say you use something for internal use only within a company, you arn't required to publish the source. And it probably isn't a big deal for them to have a source cd or source download available. Let us also not forget that not everything used in most distros is GPL, as there are plenty of Public Domain/BSD/LGPL licenses out there.

    4. Re:eh? by martalli · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apparently the GPL parts of the repository are free, so people could use the repository to build their own project, much as White Box Linux has used the RHEL repositories to create a similar, entirely free distro.

      Moreover, the maintainers apparently have a good humor about the confusion over the Freespire project. Another company might have just served a subpoena to Andrew Betts, asking for trumped up damages and whatnot.

  5. Crap, by BAILOPAN · · Score: 2, Funny

    my browser only supports analog downloads.

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  6. First post by abirdman · · Score: 4, Informative

    because everyone is busy downloading the software? They've already posted warnings that the site is getting "slammed" and that the coupon processing doesn't always work. And the download is a separate step via BitTorrent, so it should be great-- the more downloaders the better. They recommend trying between 11:00pm and 5:00am Eastern Time.

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    1. Re:First post by brickballs · · Score: 2, Informative
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    2. Re:First post by JourneyExpertApe · · Score: 2, Funny

      Could their servers really be this busy at 9:10 pm PST on a Friday, or is this just a clever marketing move.

      On another note, I've just decided to end all interogatives with a [finger quotes]question mark[/finger quotes] (?).

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  7. Credit Card Information? by ClaraBow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does anyone know if one needs to provide any personal info to download the software, like your credit card #?

    1. Re:Credit Card Information? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      nope, just redeem the "coupon" (freespire) and check out, you can register if you want support (my.linspire) but AFAICS thats it !
      its slashdotted now , and probably will be for a while (Opera had the same problem with their download giveaway) maybe this is a trend ? nahh
      be nice if other companies could do the same, but gree^^^^ is more important, gotta get that new boat !

    2. Re:Credit Card Information? by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Funny

      Credit card to get something free? Methinks somebody's been hitting too many pr0n sites. ;)

  8. There are easier ways to do this by Jailbrekr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They'd get alot more attention if they did a gpl'ed version that was free and available as a torrent. This is nothing more than a not so subtle attempt to pump the number of installs that they can claim are currently running. Marketing ploy anyone?

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    1. Re:There are easier ways to do this by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Marketing ploy? Advertizing your product by giving it away in order to spread word of mouth.....uhhhhh, DO YA THINK? Of course its a marketing ploy, and a good one if you ask me. (Downloading right now...) Its a company, they want to make money. Don't act surprised.

      AFAIK they can't GPL it because of non-free portions of the distro (JVM, Flash).

    2. Re:There are easier ways to do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      But then it would be just like Ubuntu, MEPIS, and others. Yaawwwnnnn

      Linspire is unique in that it has legally licensed things like MP3, Java, Flash, Windows Media, Quick Time, Real, Nvidia drivers, music files, etc. If you take all that away, you don't have Linspire, you have Ubuntu and have to be a friggin' genius and figure out how to get all that on your own. But of course, for this crowd (slashdot) it's not a big deal, but for 98% of the rest of the world, it's very important.

    3. Re:There are easier ways to do this by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Opera giveaway converted me. As much as I dislike the zealots who basically are walking ads for Opera and think they can do no wrong, it does seem to be much faster on this computer, the download manager is much better, and there are several features built into the tab system that aren't readily available in Firefox. I think I'll be silently using this for a while.

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    4. Re:There are easier ways to do this by drsquare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because you don't need to:
      1. Find the drivers.
      2. Download them.
      3. Use the command line to use them.
      4. Exit X and use some complicated program to install them.
      5. It JFW.

      Same with all that other crap. Yeah if you were a computer nerd you could spend a while downloading and installing it all, but if you're not a technical genius, you want something that just fucking works, so you can concentrate on important stuff, like actually using your computer.

  9. Worth it? by OnceWas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From what I have read, people haven't been all that impressed with Linspire. Even if it's free, is it worth the trouble with all the other distributions out there?

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    1. Re:Worth it? by joeljkp · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have a subscription, and I've tried 5.0. I quickly moved to Fedora and Ubuntu, though. I suppose if you like KDE and the KDE way of doing things, you might be happy with it. I was very impressed at its installation, and the fact that it configured absolutely everything (including ndiswrapper and Windows Broadcom drivers!) properly the first time.

      But it's an extremely inelegant system... you've got package names like nvidia-driver-modules-2.6.10_1.0.6629.is.1.0.6111- 0.0.0.50.linspire0.3.0.4.m10.1.deb... what?? Those who like the simple and elegant would perhaps enjoy Fedora or Ubuntu more.

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  10. It's rather quite impressive. by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Linspire is actually quite impressive. It is a step in the right direction for desktop Linux. While not as easy to use as Mac OS X, for instance, it is still an ideal system to set up for office use, and is quite friendly to the new Linux user.

    It provides an excellent stepping stone towards SuSE or Debian. A new user gets the basics down pat easily and quickly, and soon he or she is ready to use a more traditional Linux distro.

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  11. Slashdotted already by ahecht · · Score: 4, Funny

    What, were they running the server on Linspire?

    1. Re:Slashdotted already by jonbryce · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm sure somewhere in Micheal's minutes, it says they run Red Hat. Linspire is not designed or marketed as a server OS.

  12. Silly question by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've only seen Linspire once on a Fry el cheepo machine. When trying to add on a wireless adapter I navigated to their software page and while what I needed was offered on their software update, access required a subscription.

    Does this coupon only apply to the software?

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    1. Re:Silly question by ilyaaohell · · Score: 5, Informative

      No.

      In fact, this isn't so much a publicity stunt as a way to get more users dependant on their subscription download services, Click-N-Run (CNR). Links to that service are imbedded into practically every single menu you can find on the desktop, with no way to take them out. They are EVERYWHERE, within every sub-menu, on the taskbar, imbedded within web browsers and other programs, etc.

      Of course it's INCREDIBLY useful for people who DO end up subscribing, since this is probably the easiest, most user-friendly way to install without any effort a MASSIVE library of software. However, if you would prefer to get your software packages on your own (through apt-get or whatever) and have no use for CNR, you're just gonna be stuck with a desktop operating system whose main purpose is to get CNR subscribers.

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    2. Re:Silly question by Beavey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Links to that service are imbedded into practically every single menu you can find on the desktop, with no way to take them out.

      Actually, it's pretty easy to take them out:

      Start the CNR app (you don't need to subscribe), "Settings" menu, "Configure CNR", choose "CNR Warehouse" in the left pane, then uncheck "Add CNR More... options to the Launch Menu".

      Click OK and you're done.

      If you want to avoid CNR altogether, just right-click the "Launch" menu and choose "Menu Editor". Take the entries out that way, through the GUI.

      Either way, it isn't that hard to do.

  13. Freedows by Theovon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, Lindows had to change its name to Linspire, because it was too much like Windows. Well, now Freespire is too much like Linspire. So how about we call it Freedows?

    Mind you, Frito-Lay might raise an eyebrow.

    1. Re:Freedows by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Informative

      There was previously an operating systems project named "Freedows".

      http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedows/
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedows_OS

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  14. Re:Ubuntu by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Informative

    Linspire is far more specific, in terms of applications. The user really isn't informed what specific editor or browser they are using. It's just labelled "Web Browser" or "Mail Client" or "Text Editor". So it does take away a lot of the confusion from new users. It feels far more integrated.

    To be honest, I'd say Linspire is somewhat easier for a new user. But they would likely be quite at home using Ubuntu, especially after becoming familiar with Linux.

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  15. Speaking of confusion by metaphorever · · Score: 2, Funny
    The name Freespire, however, did create some confusion

    Unlike a name like Lindows, which people would never confuse with Windows.

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  16. Just great... by waynegoode · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just great...

    I've been trying to just "order" the software for 3-4 hours, not download it, but the shop site is S L O W. Just had to go and post on Slashdot, didn't you? Coundn't wait until I finally got my "order" in. Just great...

  17. It depends what sort of a user you are. by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Informative

    I could see a Linux poweruser not being overly satisfied with Linspire. If you're used to running Debian or Slackware, then you'll probably not be all that impressed. Linspire aims to make Linux easy to use. And in doing so they may alienate users who prefer the power of a more traditional Linux distro. But for a person who is new to Linux, it provides a very enjoyable and usable experience.

    It all depends on what type of user you are, and what sort of system you're looking for. While it is great for new users or those who just want a system who works, it may not be what a person who's looking for a more hands-on experience would want.

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    1. Re:It depends what sort of a user you are. by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed, the installation program is a real gem. I was hoping that PC-BSD would be as easy to install. Unfortunately, the installer crashed.

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    2. Re:It depends what sort of a user you are. by despisethesun · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'll back this statement up. Linspire 4.5 was the distro I set up on my brother and dad's computers so that they wouldn't call me all the time about viruses/spyware. I found the whole thing quite limiting and personally use FreeBSD and Ubuntu, but for what they use their computers for Linspire "just works" and that's enough for them.

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  18. Re:urg by FragHARD · · Score: 2, Funny

    thats because the server is probably in New Orleans.

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  19. First, next by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Interesting
    First Opera.

    Now Linspire.

    Can Microsoft be far behind?

    After all, nothing kills piracy like free software.

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  20. Slashdot to the rescue! by minus9 · · Score: 4, Funny



    A freely available operating system for PCs. Why slashdot you've done it again!

    Whatever will you chaps come up with next.

    We dream of the day when telegrams may be sent around the world for the price of a local telephone call. God bless you technological pioneers and God speed to your radical new endeavours.

    I just noticed you say it's available in "digital form" too. Why I almost vommited my evening dose of laudenum in excitement.

    Once again slashdot has lowered me to the lowest form of wit.

  21. Outstanding by Mad+Ogre · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am a Linspire PC builder... and I love this OS. As far as Linux distros go, it might not be the "best" out there, but for Windows Refugees just turning to Linux - its perfect.

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  22. Seems suspicious by Linegod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe its just me, but does anyone see this more in the light of 'In order to create confusion between Freespire and Linspire, we are releasing our own Freespire on the Linspire site, so the sheeple will believe we created it, and won't find out we suck'?

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  23. Re:Freespire by cybersaga · · Score: 2, Informative

    From what I understand, the confusion between Lindows and Windows was hypothetical. Microsoft took them to court over the possibility that it would confuse the user.

    In this case, it was actually confusing users. If you read the old Freespire site, the author explains the confusions that were going on and why he decided to change the name. There was no force from Linspire to change the name.

  24. Synaptic vs CNR by ilyaaohell · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's a very clear difference to casual computer users between dealing with these two screens:

    Synaptic
    Click-n-Run

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  25. Torrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since the servers are pretty much crawling already, here's a link to the torrent

  26. It could be worse. by Mal-2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It could be written in Perl. Try reading THAT over the phone.

    Mal-2

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    1. Re:It could be worse. by jlarocco · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, what would be worse is naming all the variables and functions things like "plus", "times", "leftParen", "greaterThan", "rightBracket"...:

      if (leftParen >= (plus + lessThan(minus) + lessThan * plus )) {
      ...

    2. Re:It could be worse. by flatface · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...What about the graphics?

      "Pixel 1,1 is #FFFFFF.
        Pixel 1,2 is #FFFFFF.
        Pixel 1,3 is #FFFFFF." ...

  27. Re:free? pfft. by One+Louder · · Score: 4, Informative
    They've recently created an entry-level CNR subscription - basically all the same thing as "full" but without free updates to the next version of the OS - for $20/year.

    The apt-get sources is still commented out in 5.0, but points to the standard Debian repositories. Two seconds in vi (ten in emacs) and you're in business if you can't find twenty bucks.

  28. Torrents are crawling by Soloact · · Score: 2, Informative

    Am on cable internet connection, but the torrent is crawling, slower than when I had dialup (just a few days ago). Where are all the seeders/re-seeders? I'm doing my part by re-seeding, c'mon everyone, please help out. Thank you! Cheers!

  29. A tip for "buying" Linspire... by Datoyminaytah · · Score: 2, Informative

    The servers are very busy. When you are in the process of going through several screens to "buy" Linspire for "free" with the coupon code, very often you will be redirected to a "busy" page. Refreshing the page will not resubmit your request, it simply refreshes the "busy" page, so very often you have to start over. Sometimes you can go "back" to the previous screen and try again, and sometimes going "back" just sends you to the "busy" page. So...

    On every page where you have to continue, check whether the link can be opened in a new window/tab. Some steps can, some can't. Open the next step in a new window/tab if you can. If it comes up "busy" just close it and try again from the previous screen that is still in its own window/tab. Repeat this until you are done.

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