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What's On Your Tech Bench?

Twev1701 writes "As a small computer repair company that has seen enormous growth in the past few months, we are now looking to expand our facilities. With construction starting on our office space, we now turn to the task of designing a new tech bench. Our existing bench is 6'x3', has a dedicated 15" CRT, 4 port KVM, and overhead storage bins for parts. With a new bench of 12'x4', we have lots of room for expansion. What essentials would the /. community put on their new tech bench?"

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  1. The essentials! by Blapto · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apart from computers and cases of varying kinds, you need to remember your mini fridge! Don't forget the mini fridge!

    1. Re:The essentials! by Mr.+Moose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...and a coffee machine. Where would you be without good old Mr. Coffee?

    2. Re:The essentials! by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny
      3 "tech benches".

      1. Junk that I haven't gotten around to putting in its place. Plus, Coffee machine, Franks "Red Hot" sauce, 2 cans of coffee (1 with coffee, 1 with dog food), clipboard for notes, spare parts for whatever is being worked on lately.
      2. Junk that I haven't gotten around to putting in its place. A couple of servers, spare parts, and (look UNDERNEATH - AGGG!) all sorts of shit. Parts, parts, parts. Boxes. WTF - Muriatic Acid!!! Oh, right - only safe place for it. About 50 cards (video, audio, capture, etc).
      3. Junk that I haven't gotten around to putting in its place. 21" monitor and spare box for "doing stuff". Photocopier.
      4. Desk - Junk that I haven't gotten around to putting in its place, crt and box, etc.
      But I can FIND stuff! Just last week I found some software I wrote last year that we were looking for last month (better late than never).
    3. Re:The essentials! by ces · · Score: 3, Funny

      Code Red is red Mountain Dew with a somewhat different flavor.

      2. Mountain Dew and Code Red: sorry, I'm from Canuckistan (Canada to you'all :-) Our Mountain Dew is prohibited by law from containing caffeine (only allowed in colas). Cod Red? Never tried it, never will, thanks.

      No caffeine in Mountain Dew?! What kind of totalitarian hellhole has Canada turned into?

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  2. The essentials of desktop repair by Mishra100 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Definitely make sure you have enough ground straps and a place to ground them to......

    Because we ALL know 99% of techies out there ALWAYS use ground straps. A+ basics right there.

    1. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by Slashcrap · · Score: 4, Funny

      Definitely make sure you have enough ground straps and a place to ground them to......

      And make sure you remove those damn safety resistors. They are for pussies who lack faith in their own abilities. It also helps to add back that element of excitement that is so often missing in today's workshops.

    2. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe so. But if the customer decides to sue because their computer was unrepairable for the price they wanted to pay, and you told them that, they may use the fact that they don't have a static strap as a reason why the computer is now unrepairable. When dealing with the public you will get people who will complain and sue for almost anything especially when they feel they got ripped off, or they want to rip you off. It is better to have a static strap and use it to show to the customer and perhaps the court that you take good care of the others property.

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    3. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by crashelite · · Score: 3, Funny

      oooo ooo throw in a Van de Graaff generator and then we have a nice little show... that is the only time i have seen static charge blow something (one of my teachers stood on a stool and was demenstrating and neglected to notice the electrical outlet right next to his lower exstremity... i was going to say something but he said for me to not question him.)

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    4. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by eggz128 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have a friend, I'll call Sue, who I help out by fixing her computer whenever they she does something stupid to it. Which is often.

      Sue had been complaining for a while that her computer was slow. WinXP on a P3/600 128Mb isn't much fun :) So I figured out that she'd need PC700 Rambus ram (which as it happens ment that it would be cheaper and easier to just junk the thing and get a new one, but no, we can't do that). A couple of weeks later I get a call saying shes got the RAM and could I come over to fit it.

      On my arrival she proudly told me that she'd been going to evening classes, learning how to fix computers, and the instructor had given her some spare RAM that would work.

      Anyway, I opened up the case, and started to work my way through the wires looking for the RAM slots.

      "No," she yelped, "You've got to use an earthing strap, or you'll damage it". She then launched into a nice 5 minute long lecture on the dangers of static electricity (which she'd learnt all about the previous night).

      Ok, fine I'll wear the earthing strap. Although I'd already earthed myself by touching part of a near by radiator, this would save me any more earache.

      "Ok, I can see the slot. Could you pass me the stick of RAM now please?"

      Sue turned around, and picked up a nylon ruck sack. She unzipped the front of the ruck sack, rooted around inside for a bit, and then produced a single DIMM of PC66. Not in an antistatic bag, not in any kind of protection at all actually, from either physical damage or electrical damage. And covered in all sorts of whatever crap that was in the bottom of that ruck sack.

      "Sue, why am I wearing an antistatic strap if you're going to carry the ram about, unprotected, in something that generates more static than your average Van der f**king Graaf generator?"

      "Oh"

      "And thats not a Rambus RIMM like I told you to get. It's a DIMM. PC66."

      "Dave my instructor said it would work."

      "It won't even physically fit in the slot. Look, the notches are in different places."

      "But Dave said..."

      "Dave is an idiot."

      "Dave also gave me this to speed things up..."

      And with that, Sue reached back into the ruck sack, and produced a K6-2 processor. Also covered in crap, not in an anti static bag.

    5. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by bernywork · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Some things are out of your control, and unless you have video tape evidence, it really doesn't matter that much.

      Get the customer to sign a disclaimer as they give you the PC. Accidents happen sometimes, nothing you can do about it.

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    6. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by SacredNaCl · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The essential I couldn't do without:

      A good quality multimeter, and a large lighted magnifying glass. . So many problems can be traced and solved with that. Doesn't hurt to have an exacto knife and some copper tape as well, depending on the exact type of repair work you do (I can salvage some boards and cards this way, though its patient work).

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    7. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 3, Informative

      I only half agree. I think grounding straps are basically stupid. However, grounding mats are a gift from the Gods. In my 10 years of tech, I've watched plently of ungrounded people take perfectly working pieces of ram and turn them into memory swiss cheese.

      We have a couple of testing stations that have the following setup.

      1. Nice grounded table, with grounding mat(s). We also have a couple grounded turn tables that really help when your building a machine.
      2. Lots of 3 prong outlets.
      3. A common area with all kinds of Power supply testers.
      4. A couple of different 450 watt power supplies wired with power switches for different models of motherboards.
      5. A common area with with a whole bunch of different ram testers.
      6. All our work areas are very well lit. Each station also is equipped with a couple long necked work lights, at least one of them has a magnifying glass so you can make close inspections of parts.
      7. A couple of our stations are equipped with grounded compressed air.
      8. Bins with test parts (video cards, ram, etc) all conspiciously marked with a color coded label to that bench.

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    8. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by Goody · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wouldn't laugh at anyone who uses a ground strap. While there's plenty of folks here that have worked on PCs for 50+ years and never wrecked anything from static (or so they say), the potential is always there. No static protection may not have outright killed equipment, but there's no saying that it hasn't caused damage that showed up later as squirrely intermittent hardware problems.

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    9. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by wfWebber · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, basically you're saying you don't need a Sue to repair a pc?

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    10. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by jonbusby · · Score: 2, Funny

      just make sure you buy one of the benches without the built-in sue.

    11. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Funny

      grounded compressed air

      Its a good strategy to keep grounded compressed air on hand.

      While it's little known in the computer industry, the common use for grounded compressed air is for tire-air replacement (it gets stale). Its best to replace the air in your tires once either every 4-6 months, or when you change your blinker-light fluid.

      When using your grounded compressed air, its important to remember to stay away from electrical outlets. Normal air is an insulator, and therefore incapable of being a ground at all.
      Grounded compressed air is not, and as it drifts around it may randomly form an electrical path between things if it loses contact with the ground.

      Now please excuse me. I have to go rotate my hood ornament.

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    12. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by bxbaser · · Score: 2, Informative

      2. Lots of 3 prong outlets

      Make sure they are not just 3 prong outlets that have only 2 prongs wired. Check yours to see if the electrician failed to connect the ground wire.

      7. A couple of our stations are equipped with grounded compressed air.

      Well filtered and dryed grounded air is even better, sucks when you blow 3 gallons of water onto a mb.
      Even better than compressed air is a tank of nitrogen, way cheaper than running a air compresser all day.

    13. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by LaCosaNostradamus · · Score: 2, Informative
      Lots of 3 prong outlets.

      There's a simple formula, too, for figuring that out:

      1. Figure how many inches of bench length you have.
      2. Figure 1 outlet per inch.
      3. Multiply by 3 for top, middle and bottom mounts.
      4. Multiply by 10 just in case.
      More seriously, and almost literally, you cannot have enough power outlets. People who provide techie areas just don't friggin' understand that one. We need DOZENS AND DOZENS of power outlets. We can consume a good 12-24 per 6FT of bench.

      KVMs help reduce that need, but with outlets being a buck each or less, in bulk, then why skimp?

      P.S. 20-30 outlets per 6FT of bench seems like a good rule-of-thumb for the techie.
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    14. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by jwocky · · Score: 2, Informative

      I also like to keep a soldering iron and mulitmeter, but i guess that depends on the work you do. other weird stuff I keep:

      1. One of those little mirrors your dentist uses, so i can see whats behind a mess of wires, read lables on the back of racked routers, etc.
      2. a pickle grabber. ESSENTIAL. looks like a clicky pen, but with prongs comming out. it's great for grabbing screws you drop in the case.
      3. a little magnet. again, for picking up screws. just be careful with magnets.
      4. duct tape....because, well, it's duct tape.

    15. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by tzanger · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, but you're full of shit.

      Static discharge very very infrequently destroys sensitive components immediately. Generally you'll find that static discharge weakens the component (breakdown of the insulation layer in the MOS devices) and causes intermittents, which become less and less intermittent as the device is further subjected to static discharge.

      Now, having said that, when you're working on a PC you are generally touching the case and the case is generally plugged in to a grounded outlet, so you're almost always at or near the same potential as the case, which is generally at ground potential. Where you generally find problems is when the device or you is at different potentials (taking a video card or DIMM out of the gray antistatic bag and setting it down, then picking up the phone/dealing with a customer and coming back to it later without regrounding yourself) -- it's stupidly easy to build up several hundred volts of static potential, and that's not enough to really feel either.

      I've also been in the biz for over a decade... it's not as cut and dry as you suggest. Keeping your environment relatively humid and minimizing static producers (rubber shoes, carpet, etc.) goes a long way. ionizers also help.

    16. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by bleckywelcky · · Score: 2, Funny

      The important question: Is Sue hot? If she is, just reinstall XP and ask her to get busy while the hard drive is formatting.

    17. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by cellocgw · · Score: 4, Informative

      blah blah never seen a PC part blow due to static blah blah
      No, you've just never looked closely enough to see the damage. Most often the ESD damage is not catastrophic but does degrade a chip or two, leading to errors or slow performance, or maybe the chip's premature death months hence.
      Just because you don't get a micro-nuclear explosion doesn't mean you didn't break something.
      Heck, I once grounded the wrong side of an FM antenna (in the pre-polarized-plug days) and saw a spark. The electronics ran fine for another 6 months until some part finally croaked.
      At the risk of sounding officious :-) , trust the experts. They may actually know something.

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    18. Re:The essentials of desktop repair by mollymoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know how it is, you have a few too many beers and gradually the chick with three ears, one eye and an OS/2 laptop with a broken floppy starts to look like Natalie Portman asking you to make the dock icons smaller on her PowerBook.

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  3. Re:i'd put.. by biryokumaru · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, in my experience, the single most useful tool for computer diagnostic/repair (next to a philips screwdriver, of course =]) is Linux. Whenever a friend needs to reformat or gets some virus that keeps their machine from booting, or some such, I just plug their hard drive into my Linux box here and do whatever needs to be done. Recently, my Chief (I'm a Navy recruit) needed some files recovered from a system who's admin password was lost and/or corrupted. I just hooked his hard drive into my system, recovered encrypted NTFS files with ease and burnt'em onto a CD. Yes, a 15" CRT is nice, but if all you're hooked up to is a BSoD, it's not terribly helpful =] Also, both the laptop offerings are called "m5000 Series." Typo?

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  4. More than one console . . . by millisa · · Score: 5, Informative

    One CRT isn't going to cut it. Get a second LCD mounted up on the wall. That much space, you likely want to watch more than one thing at a time and a switch box is frustrating.

    An old laptop with floppy drive (and a burner if you want to get fancy). Nothing is more irritating than having to walk back and forth for bios, drivers, and whatnot to put on floppies at your desk . . . There's always something you want to lookup online or download to use on your hardware.

    Easily accessible tools. Not bins. Not a toolbox under the bench. A nice set of phillips and flatheads, maybe a couple needle nose just there on the wall. (Paint them fluorescent orange or something so they dont walk away if you want). Those all-in-one tool cases with their plastic snapin holders are not conducive to putting things away right.

    An assortment of 'known good' parts in easy to get to bins doesn't hurt. And a nice sorted variety of screws is always good (I don't know what they do with them, but people seem to like hording backplanes and their screws . . .).

    Easy to reach canned air. Easy to reach paper towels.

    1. Re:More than one console . . . by Zawash · · Score: 3, Informative

      In addition to the Phillips and Flathead screwdrivers, you'd also want some Pozidrivs, Hex and Torx. Although most computer screws are of the Phillips variety, it doesn't hurt to be prepared.

      Most screws out there are actually Pozidriv screws, but a lot of people use Phillips screwdrivers in Pozidriv screws and vice versa. ..Even trained carpenters! The result - ruined screws, ruined screwdrivers and carpal tunnel syndrome..

      You guys know the difference between a Phillips and a Pozidriv, right?

      Cheers!

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    2. Re:More than one console . . . by cgenman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Another easily accessable computer. Sometimes you just need to google to see if a company's driver causes problems.

      A completely naked computer that has been optimized for quick booting (a CF-system, perhaps?). Either way, a quick and easy way to test parts for failure.

      Voltometer. Always good for testing parts for failure.

      USB flash drive with all of your utilities.
      Linux boot floppies / CD's.

      A wired rotary disk-cutting tool. These come in handy far, far more often then they should.

      A Lazy Susan. I hate having to constantly turn machines around.

      All of the assorted parts you need to put into computers... Things like spare case screws, spare PSU's, little rubber feet...

      All of the assorted screw drivers, etc, that you need to fix computers, which i'm sure you have figured out by now.

      A bin of dead parts for scrap. Sometimes you just really need a face pannel from a networking card. You'll figure out what the usful scavengable parts are pretty quickly.

      A pen and a notepad, believe it or not.

    3. Re:More than one console . . . by dagr8tim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's a good list, might I add afew small things.

      The alcohol prep pads that hospitals use. I usually buy them at home health places cheaply. Bottles of rubbing alchool with q tips and swabs. And lastly, those large anti-bacterial computer/equipment wipes.

      I hate starting on a case that's covered in tar because their owner smokes. That's bare min an additional $25 fee if I have to wipe the computer down to work on it.

      I also keep assorted fly swatters/heavy hand held objects to squash anything that tried to crawl out of a case when I open it. On that note, I keep large clear plastic garbage bags on hand. These are used in alot of factories as liner's for 55 gallon drums. If something does crawl out of the computer, the computer and any assoicated parts go into a bag, the bag is tied shut, and a zip tie is affixed below the knot in the bag. Then the owner is called to come pick up their computer.

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  5. An excuse calandar... by spammeister · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just like the BOFH! In him we trust... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/08/11/802_11bofh /

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  6. Known Good Parts by Fortress · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IMHO, nothing helps more with diagnosing hardware problems than some tested hardware (video card, processor, RAM). Makes isolating a problem or conflict dead easy.

  7. workbench ... by tim_uk · · Score: 3, Informative
    Lose the CRT and wall mount the 3 new LCD panels (you are getting 3 new LCD panels, right?)

    Two more 4 port KVMs would then fit right in. Wall mount those as well. Keep as much bench top space as you can free. The overhead bins are a GREAT idea.

    Also several drawers running along the front. Norm (New Yankee Workshop) has a plan for a storage/workbench that would adapt really well for your requirements. Flush mount the power outlets (double the amount you think you will ever need) either to the bench surface or the wall. Beware static! ;-)

    1. Re:workbench ... by Andy_R · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't lose the CRT. Make sure you have a good one, that can cope with a wide variety of resolutions and refresh rates - you never know what some idiot has set their screen resolution to (and wants it left at because they like it), and LCDs are a complete pain to look at if you are not feeding them their native resolution.

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  8. Illuminated Magnifier by mr.henry · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Maybe I am getting too old, but I've been thinking an illuminated magnifier would be pretty useful to have for my bench.

    BTW, check out the Xcelite PRO-SERIES ergo screwdrivers (model #XPE500 for the 5 piece). I love these things -- using quality German made handtools is really satisfying. I think I paid $25 at Fry's.

  9. For example... by Yeti.SSM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In random order:

    1. Something to remove dust from the computers' inside and from the workbench (compressed air, vacuum cleaner, both...)
    2. Voltmeter
    3. Spare PSU
    4. Air conditioning (posibly in conjunction with 1)
    5. Trash bin

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  10. Test bench by xx01dk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not quite related, but my bench is hand made, stands 43" high in a "L" shape, conforming to the layout of my single-car garage. I've got a kegerator in the corner, with the tap mounted 2' from my main PC's keyboard. Also have a 29" tv mounted bar-style in the corner, angled down with an Xbox and PS2 and a 5-disk DVD player attached.

    My "console" consists o my main PC, an WinXP machine on an Intel 540 with Raptors in Raid-0 and 2Gb Ramm in the center, with a 2Ghz Dell laptop on the left and a 2.4 Ghz Fed Core server on the right, all controlled via Synergy.

    The "L" is 6' by 34" on one leg and 8' by 34" on the other, along the wall. The wall portion is designed to fold down via gate hinges and gas shocks (not installed yet...it's heavy)in case I need to actually get a car in here.

    My Fed Core tower has external, front-mounted IDE and Molex connectors, and it and the WinXP pc use LCD's to save on desk space. I've got a 2'6" rack box with nothin in it at the momment but plan to add sound gear and maybe a blade server of some sort when the fundage comes. :)

    The workbench surface itself is white laminated 5/8's inch particle board stock which works great for optical mice. I wired in a 12-outlet power strip along the short wall and another 2-outlet box in the middle of the long wall.

    It's quite cozy in here and I love having all this surface to work on whether standing or sitting on my barstools. And currently, I have Pyramid Heffe on tap which doesn't hurt either. Here's a link for a pic:

    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/testbenchdude /DSCN2545.jpg

    Hope you all like. I know it's kinda off-topic, but I do have a full range of miniature/microminiature solder repair equipment availible to repair PCB's and such. :) Lemme know what ya all think, and if you're even in the SD area, look me up and I'll pour ya a pint.

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    1. Re:Test bench by bhiestand · · Score: 2, Funny
      Also have a 29" tv mounted bar-style...

      You had me at "I've got a kegerator in the corner, with the tap mounted 2' from my main PC's keyboard."
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  11. PSU by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A loose power supply. One that you can actually switch on without a mainboard attached. Very conveniant to get that forgotten CD/DVD out the drive, or to test drives.

  12. off the top of my head by _pi-away · · Score: 3, Interesting

    -speakers
    -dvi lcd (if the customer is complaining of a DVI problem, you'll need this)
    -spare PSU(s)
    -jumpers
    -Y power splitters
    -hard drives (pata, sata, various scsi if you got em)
    -hi-speed usb device (to test usb)
    -network connections (firewalled into its own DMZ, you don't want the customers wormed out pcs running wild behind your firewall)
    -cordless drill and charger
    -solder kit, heatshrink tubing
    -all the standard various screws computers come with
    -lots of outlets on a circuit supporting enough amperage to really use them

    probly lots i'm forgetting, but it's a start.

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  13. From my list of requirements for the ideal PCbench by Qbertino · · Score: 5, Interesting
    • standardised personal tool harness for everybody. Power Screwdriver, small wrenches, bits, e-meter and maybe a headlamp/MiniMag with headstrap.
    • Bench Bays with rounded corners. Bench surface should be as high as your lower rib when standing (ca. 130cm)
    • 1 or 2 barchairs for those occasions when you want to sit down
    • adjustible LED-driven spotlight armlamps down from the ceiling
    • named part components at the wall end of each Benchbay
    • named screw components!
    • lists of SOPs between the bays
    • fixed bolted-on open and caseless PC setup for quicktesting hardware between bays
    • ready harddrives with all standard installs of you shop
    • small parts grabber handy
    • remotely switchable vacuum in other room with a thin hose to every workplace
    • optional: remote compressor with dentist air nozzle at every workplace
    • anti-static grounding at every workplace + anti-static armring installed
    • telefone/intercom at every workplace, maybe with headset
    • wooden working surface, thick and well waxed, oiled and polished
    • enough room for supplies/finished product trolleys
    • customer waiting zone inside the shop with coffee and magazine rack - especially if your shop is impressive and well kept


    That's all that comes to mind just now.
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  14. A naked woman... by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 2, Funny

    A naked woman on a work bench - that's how real men get "the job" done :-)

  15. Re:well.. by tintub · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You're right, spelling wise, but chose a bad way to make your point - espresso is Italian for "very quickly" :-)

    A common misconception, but actually espresso is the past participle of esprimere, meaning to express or to press out, and relates to the process of making an espresso coffee.

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  16. Cleaning station by jimcooncat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Garbage in, garbage out! A dedicated cleaning station with a good vaccuum set and supplies cordoned off from your workbench area would be a first stop for every computer that came in your place. Keep your workbench area clean with a dust bunny containment room!

  17. Stuff I' by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some things to consider -

    1)KVMs with both VGA and DVI in, and a DVI out to a flat panel hanging on the wall behind the bench.

    2) Big, scary Server PSU with a gazillion power connectors. Maybe two or three, and lots of extra molex connectors.

    3) A universal notebook PSU with all the lead attachments. You know someone's gonna drop off a stinkpad and not leave their power brick.

    4) A universal wall wart for powering troublesome peripherals that the owners neglected to bring the PSU for.

    5) Multimeter

    6) Nice soldering station, with adjustable temp and a variety of tips.

    7) Big, honking USB drive for emergency backups.

    8) Wireless Router with ethernet ports, and a gigabit hub to uplink to it, to test out networking ports, read Fark on company time.

    9) Electrical tape in three colors, duct tape in two, gaffer's tape, superglue and a hot-glue gun.

    10) Spare cables: USB in all its variations, ditto Firewire; Mini Din-8, DB9, DB25, Centronics and gender changers and adapters for all involved; PSU cords; Cat-5 patch cables, crossover cables; bluetooth mouse extenders, RJ-12 phone cords.

    11) A n00b intern willing to go look for a bluetooth mouse extender cable.

    12) A bluetooth mouse, to test bluetooth functionality.

    13) Ordered bins with commonly needed hardware (plastic washers, mounting studs, screws, etc.)

    14) Lotsa wireties in various sizes and colors.

    15) Professional grade anti-static setup your technicians won't bother to use, all the while rubbing their shoes on wool sweaters and playing with styrofoam.

    16: big magnifying glass on an articulated arm, preferable with a bright light.

    17: Pin vise, and one of those aligator-clip armatures. And a real bench vise, too.

    18: heat gun for heat-shrink connectors.

    19) Locking toolboxes assigned to each tech, inventoried in the morning and at night. You'll save a ton of money on tools. What goes in those boxes is another post in and of itself.

    SoupIsGood Food

  18. KVM? by juventasone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While a kvm may sound like a grand idea, in practise it really isn't (or shouldn't be). When a system is busy scanning, installing, etc, you need know when its ready at a glance, anything else is wasting time. At our shop, we simply have a big 6-station bench. Each station has its own 15/17" CRT, keyboard, and mouse, and room for 1 or 2 towers.

  19. Klein screwdrivers by dickens · · Score: 3, Informative

    I used to truly love my Klein screwdriver. There it is right on the home page. Sniff.

    It made the Xcelite tools seem like toys.

  20. Band aids by rf0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Going by recent expierences expect to get a lot of cuts.

  21. desk mod by shortscruffydave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Install something around the edges to create a raised lip to stop screws and other small bits'n'bobs rolling off the bench and onto the floor

  22. What would I have on mine? by hattig · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wouldn't bother with having a massively deep bench, maybe 2 foot deep.

    I'd wall-mount a couple of LCDs - nothing fancy of course.

    I'd have wells for various screw types, so they were always on hand.

    I'd have a bare component test bed, for component tests. Set it up with a working setup, then when you need to test a PSU, Motherboard, etc, just swap it into the working setup.

    Around 10000 plug sockets and a wall mounted 4 port switch. Also a wall mounted KVM?

    An area to queue up units for testing - a 'quick test' area and a 'long term repair' area too.

    A set of wall-mounted optics for easy access to spirits.

    A mini-fridge for various mixers for aforementioned spirits.

    Compressed air tank for cleaning dust out of cases, fans, etc.

    PS2 and USB keyboards. PS2 and USB mice. USB hub, Firewire hub.

    Music system.

  23. Re:From my list of requirements for the ideal PCbe by snookums · · Score: 4, Funny
    standardised personal tool harness for everybody. Power Screwdriver, small wrenches, bits, e-meter and maybe a headlamp/MiniMag with headstrap.

    What on Earth do you want an e-meter on there for?
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    Be careful. People in masks cannot be trusted.
  24. Invaluable by BS405397 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have to say that one of the most useful things I've gotten my hands on in a long time is an IDE to USB cable. It saves tons of time hooking up drives that aren't able to boot for one reason or another for data extraction. All that slaving to another system and rebooting gets old real fast, but I end up working on quite a few laptops. I'd also reccomend a hard drive duplicator/maintainence station. As far as tools go, everyone has their favorite for one stop shopping, but I prefer the Swiss Army Cybertool. It's way more useful than the model with a USB drive, and has nearly every commonly used PC maintenance tool I need, including a pin for reset buttons. A bit bulky, but I wouldn't be without it in my pocket. I don't know what type of KVM you use (USB or PS2), but I would also reccomend keeping a genuine opposite, read not using adapters, keyboard and mouse handy. Typically, I use PS2, but every now and then I get a system like a Compaq iPaq (the desktop not handheld) that only has USB, and doesn't work well with adapted PS2 devices.

  25. Vid cards come to mind... by Rooked_One · · Score: 2, Informative
    how often do you hear that awful 3 beep'er? Lets say some PFY has decided to flash their 9800pro to an 9800XT but forked it up... I hate to be scandelous, but pop a PCI vid card in there, reflash it, and take that puppy to ebay and make another hundred bucks.

    Also, I *heard* through the grapevine that a supposed Geek Rescue cd is avaliable on some torrent sites. And i've also *heard* that what is on there is quite useful in many ways. I'm sure you already have a disk similar to this, but what i've *HEARD* about this cd is that it is pretty handy. ;P

  26. let's see... by pointbeing · · Score: 2, Interesting
    • one monitor, KVM switch and grounding mat per tech. suspend the monitors from the ceiling a little above eye level.
    • keyboards and mice in under-bench drawers for each tech.
    • two Gigabit Ethernet switches - one connected to the Internet, the other connected to a samba server in a sandbox.
    • a boatload of screws (both sizes), those nylon motherboard standoff thingies and fiber washers.
    • tools? those magnetic screwdrivers that Compaq used to give out with the replaceable bits are really nice. so are hemostats. and nut drivers.
    • couple spare hard drives and an IDE adapter for 2.5" drives for each workstation.
    • hardware disk duplicator.
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    -- anais nin
  27. Re:i'd put.. by shancock · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes,
    and bootable Linux CD's like Knoppix http://www.knoppix.com/ and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ are also good tools. The CD's can be loaded toward Windows, or Linux/BSD tools depending on the system in for repair.Essential for out of the office repairs and analysis but also useful at the bench.

  28. Booting and power by commanderfoxtrot · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'd definitely agree with the USB key/CDs.

    Much of the time spent fixing is in diagnosis. Having a selection of USB keys and CDs to boot into memcheck and Linux environments for analysis will be very useful. Also have a huge disk around with *everything* on it.

    You'll need power. Lots of power. Put a few mains sockets on the wall, and get a couple of big computer power supplies screwed to the wall with extra-long cables. Just make sure you have a means to turn them on and off- modern power supplies can be a pain in this respect. On the ATX ones, I recall you ground pin 10 to turn it on... but check this!

    I'd also say my Leatherman has fixed more than its fair share of VCRs and computers :-)

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  29. Cordless drill by nuggz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A cordless drill is better than a screwdriver.

    Other than the normal bits and pieces you already have, hopefully in bins what more do you need?

  30. Requirements have changes over time. by pcjunky · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It used to be that repairing computers involved electronics knowledge. You would need to troubleshoot down to the chip level and replace the bad component. Motherboards back a couple decades cost upwards of $500 to $1000 depending. A well equiped bench would have Multimeter, Oscope, Logic probe, Chip tester, eprom programmer (bios upgrades),

    Nowadays the motherboards (and most other pc components) use ASICs (aplication Specific Integrated Circuits). Even if you could troubleshoot down the that level replaceing them is very difficult (surface mount ICs mostly) and getting the parts just as tough. With motherboards costing only $80 to $200 it's not worth it. The one repair we still do is replacement of bad caps. These are a VERY common failure and are easy to spot (bulged tops). To unsolder these you will need a soldering station (irons don't get hot enough and aren't temp controlled) and a desoldering vacum station. The ground and PS PCB plains are so large they draw away mass amounts of heat when trieing desolder them. We generally have to use both the iron and the desoldering tool at the same time (one on the back of the baord, one on the front) in order to clean the cap lead holes. The caps? We get plenty of those from old/bad motherboards.

    Power supplies are another thing we sometimes repair. The thing that most often fails is the fan. Like to MB's the caps can fail here to, however these are much easer to desolder.

    A post diag card is helpfull to some degree but the best thing to have is lots of spare parts to swap. Old eqipment (486 and earler) is valuable for caps and fans. Allways salvage these parts before trashing.

    I find most tech work these days involves not hardware repair but software repair. Most of our time is spent getting rid of spyware and viruses and fixing OS screwups (frequently reinstalling windows). The key here is to be able to work on several machines at once because you spend a lot of time waiting for things to happen (virus/spyware scans, os installs). Have at least three hookups for machines so you can work on three at once.

    If you really want some test gear (machine that goes ping) for wow factor consider a used Oscope from ebay (~$100-$200). Analog is good enough here. I personally like HP test equipment here. You should be able to get a 100MHz or better scope for very little money. If nothing else they look impressive. A freind of my father used to have a sign in his office that read "If you can't dazzle them with brilance, baffle them with bullshit".

  31. Tech Bench Musts by Pseudomaniac · · Score: 2, Interesting

    USB Floppy Drive
    USB NIC with XP recognized driver set
    BART PE CD
    Knoppix CD
    350 Watt or greater ATX power supply
    Digital Volt Meter
    Paperclip

  32. Something no one mentioned by e.coli · · Score: 2, Insightful

    a grounding strap across the entire front of the workbench. Something you can touch whenever or lean into to disapate static.

  33. Re:From my list of requirements for the ideal PCbe by giverson · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparently you haven't studied the history of psychiatry.

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  34. Re:well.. by tintub · · Score: 5, Informative

    I prefer to attribute the origin of the name espresso to the "quick" way it is prepared in opposition to the usual italian way of preparing the coffee (at home) by using a special coffe maker tool called "moka" that produces coffe lighter than the espresso.

    Gah! No, no, no! A moka (such as the classic octagonal aluminium pot that you are talking about) is an espresso machine. It's a cheap stovetop version designed to emulate the cafe espresso machines. The point of espresso and the reason an espresso is called an espresso is that the water (or steam) is forced through the coffee grains at high pressure, which is exactly what a stovetop espresso machine does. The heating of the water in the lower half of the moka builds up the pressure, until the steam is forced through the coffee, up through a tube and into the top half. You are right that it doesn't match a cafe espresso, you don't really get a crema with a moka. Another disadvantage is that because the water is boiling when it passes through the coffee, the coffee gets a bitter burnt taste when compared with a cafe machine, which runs at about 90 degrees C. All the same, it's still an espresso.

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  35. It depends on what kind of service you provide by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, it does.

    That said, my regular "tech bench" consists of a known-good CDROM, a *big* hard drive, a copy of BootIt NG which I use to make images of the "client"'s hard drives on said big hard drive before I go changing anything (yes, I could do it with Linux, but BootItNG is a lot easier in that respect, particularly if the host system doesn't support bootable CDs), a known-good PCI NIC and an Internet connection to use it with, a known-good modem, and a phone jack.

    On the software side, I keep a copy of System Rescue CD (http://www.sysresccd.org/), which has MemTest+, Aida, FreeDOS, and a whole bunch of other bootdisks in its boot menu, as well as a bunch of really useful Linux tools such as gparted, QtParted, ClamAV, PartImage, etc..

    Oh, and all the stuff that should be obvious: wrist straps, grounding strips (make sure they actually connect to a ground and aren't just a long strip of metal), etc..

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    If you believe everything you read, you'd better not read. - Japanese proverb
  36. Ultimate Boot CD by Throstur · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I worked for a company doing warranty repairs for some major brands. Other people have mainly listed all the essentials you need, but there is one thing we used a lot which I notice noone has mentioned - the Ultimate Boot CD. I won't go into detail what's on it, but one of the tools we used most were all the hard disk diagnostics tools from all the HD manufacturers. It also has partitioning tools, memtest, virus scanners, and other tools. And best of all, it's free and 100% legal! I recommend it for any PC repair shop as it has saved me and my colleagues a lot of time.

    1. Re:Ultimate Boot CD by Throstur · · Score: 2

      Yes, I managed to forget the link - here it is: Ultimate Boot CD

  37. my service bench by v1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a macintosh repair tech I probably have a little different spread of toys than many PC techs, but I suspect the basics will be much the same. Some items have been added after a moment of inspiration, and have made life a LOT easier.

    * A parts caddy. One is a large caddy, and is full of parts of course. Start out with one at least twice as big as you think you'll need, then add a second one later when you run out of space.

    * Another parts caddy. This should be a smaller one, with 36 small drawers. DO NOT put anything in this one, it's for service. This is a huge idea. When taking apart a laptop, each step of disassembly, pull out a drawer and put the parts/screws/etc in the drawer and set it on the bench to the side. Set them down in a row as you take apart the computer. This does three important things for you. First, it makes it unlikely that you will lose a part or try to put a screw in the wrong place. Second, you now have a distinct order in which to reassemble the computer so you don't put a panel back on and then realize you have to take it back off to attach a cable. Since you can't always count on having a service manual, especially for a laptop, this is very important. Third, all the parts for each assembly step are grouped together, which also helps prevent delays in reassembly and "hmm I have parts left over...". This is good for laptops and desktops, but the biggest benefit is really anytime you really have to tear something apart.

    * KVM or similar switch, to switch video between your service monitor and up to 3 other VGA sources. USB switchbox to switch your keyboard between your service machine and up to thee other computers. Four VGA/USB combo cables to run around with. Number them, and number your switchbox positions. Some people opt for the "tap shift three times" KVMs, but I personally prefer the good ol pushbuttons.

    * Tools. You can never have enough. I have particular need of my precision screwdriver set from Sears. It includes philips 0, 00, and 000 which are essential for laptops. It also comes with t5-t8 and small flatheads too. I also have a larger set of long handled philips 1 and 2, plus a set of large torx wrenches for t powermac g5's.

    * multimeter. Doesn't have to be an expensive one. You need to test voltage (BIOS batteries, power supplies) and continuity (is that wire good?) $15 from radio shack is fine.

    * firewire card in your service machine, and firewire enclosure, opened up, on your bench. This is for quick hookup and removal of drives for testing and repair, without having to reboot your machine. Another very "big idea", this will really help you. I *strongly* recommend a Granite Digital "FireView" bridge board, it has an LCD display and menu buttons and can be used to test a drive without even hooking it to a computer - extremely helpful and costs only about $100. Hard to find good diagnostic hardware of any type for that price. This will easily save you hours of frustration trying to track down a gremlin that ends up being a flakey or failing hard drive.

    * air compressor, and a place to use it. (outside) You will be thankful for this when a machine comes in that looks like it was fresh dug up out of the ground. You'll see the worst ones at least twice a month, and they will send up a huge brown cloud when you first hit them with the air. Make sure it does not have a tool oiler in line, (yes, I've seen that done to a computer, once) and it would be better still if someone knew how to empty the water drain valve occasionally.

    * cables and adapters. Like USB A-to-B, USB A-to-mini, firwire 6-6, 6-4, and 6-9. Parallel, maybe even some scsi (they come in handy from time to time). Serial, old and new style. Don't forget a DVI to VGA adapter (both ways!) because you will need them.

    * floppy drives. Definitely need a 1.44mb usb floppy, and should also try to have a zip-100 if at all possible. Zip 250 is optional but good. DVD burner also manditory, for data backups. Anything else probabl

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  38. Re:From my list of requirements for the ideal PCbe by bernywork · · Score: 3, Funny

    Double checking their answers while they fill out the questionaire before you start work on their PC?

    From: http://lotl.cc/humor.xs

    1. Describe your problem:
    2. Now, describe the problem accurately:
    3. Speculate wildly about the cause of the problem:
    4. Problem Severity:

          1. Minor __
          2. Minor __
          3. Minor __
          4. Trivial __

    5. Nature of the problem:
          1. Locked Up __
          2. Frozen __
          3. Hung __
          4. Strange Smell __
    6. Is Your Computer Plugged In? Yes_____ No______
    7. Is It Turned On? Yes_____ No_____
    8. Have you tried to fix it yourself? Yes_____ No_____
    9. Have you made it worse? Yes_____ No_____
    10. Have you had a "friend" who "Knows all about computers" try to fix it for you? Yes_____ No_____
    11. Did they make it worse? Yes_____ No_____
    12. Have you read the manual? Yes_____ No_____
    13. Are you sure you've read the manual? Yes_____ No_____
    14. Are you absolutely certain you've read the manual? Yes_____ No_____
    15. If you read the manual, do you think you understood it? Yes_____ No_____
    16. If 'yes', then explain why you can't fix the problem yourself?
    17. What were you doing with your computer at the time the problem occurred?
    18. If you answered 'nothing' then explain why you were logged in?
    19. Are you sure you aren't imagining the problem? Yes_____ No_____
    20. Does the clock on your home VCR blink 12:00? Yes_____ What's a VCR? _____
    21. Do you have a copy of 'PCs for Dummies'? Yes_____ No_____
    22. Do you have any independent witnesses to the problem? Yes_____ No_____
    23. Do you have any electronics products that DO work? Yes_____ No_____
    24. Is there anyone else you could blame this problem on? Yes_____ No_____
    25. Have you given the machine a good whack on the top? Yes_____ No_____
    26. Is the machine on fire? Yes_____ No_____ Not Yet_____
    27. Can you do something else instead of bothering me? Yes_____ No_____

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  39. Okay, here's what you need by multipartmixed · · Score: 2, Informative

    1. Run a piece of angle iron along the front of the bench. Ground the angle iron with 10 or 12 awg wire. Touch this frequently and forget about those PITA straps. Or attach your strap to it if you're a paranoid numpty. ;)

    2. Grab some anti-static mats. Screw them into your workbench. This will help you avoid scratching the customer's equipment, and if you ground them, further mitigate accidental ESD.

    3. Make sure your floor isn't a friggin' carpet. If it is, lay some laminate floor over it.

    4. A shelf for monitors. You want a monitor ever 3.5 feet or so.

    5. A couple of "test beds", matching your most common configs. These are easy to make. Take the removable part of a case that the motherboard bolts up to, bolt a motherboard to it. Grab a piece of MDF. Bolt the case back to the MDF, and then bolt a harddrive, CD-ROM, and floppy disk to it. You can put this away and take it out easily, and it won't succomb to the "oh I'll just use this..." syndrome so easily.

    6. A network jack and a phone jack for each monitor (or more).

    7. An internet-connected PC with a floppy drive and a CD-Burner.

    There, you'll all done. Assuming you have a shelf full of spares, you can fix anything -- safely and quickly.

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    Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
  40. Re:well.. by fshalor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. Ability to make coffee: insinkerator hot water tap (replaced our bunson burner and fleaker.) We still use a glass funnel with coffee filters. Fresh grind and then pour 190 deg F water over them in a careful method. Perfect concentrated brew.
    2. Multimeter. *vital*.... never leave home without it.
    3. Complete screwdriver/torx set.
    4. Spare towles for laptop disembowlment operations.
    5. Stack of "fresh" drives. Never trust an old drive!
    6. Rubermaid container full of untouched, pristine, NIB IDE cables. Another must have. I tend to swap out IDE cables when ever I get a box just in case. It's saved me a lot of problems.
    7. Trusted powerspuplies.
    8. iPod hooked to sony stereo system.
    9. KVM.
    10. 19" LCD Samsung 930b + Sony trinitron E400.
    11. Laptop cooling pad.
    12. 7pt USB hub.
    13. 8 pt netgear switch (home bench) and 24 pt gigabit switch (foundary) at work.
    14. Safety gooooogles and electrical tape. (I guess for sledge-o-matic operations safety.) Must have my PPE's.
    15. Swingline stapeler. (Not red.) Vintage.
    16. TI-89.
    17. Perrys Handbook for Chemical Engineers. (DOn't ask why I have it near my comp workbench.... you don't want to know.)

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  41. Re:i'd put.. by slonkak · · Score: 2, Informative

    One tool I find extremely useful is the Linux Password Disk. It will boot a linux kernel and rewrite the Windows registry files to change the local Administrator password if it's forgotten.

    The bootable CD image is here:
    http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/cd050303.z ip

  42. AN ERASER! by drunkennewfiemidget · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, seriously! Go to your local Staples, and buy a bag of those big, pink, school erasers.

    They work WONDERS for cleaning contacts -- RAM contacts, AGP, PCI, etc.

    I learned this from an electronics engineer. I've taken *MANY* RAM chips that failed memtest, cleaned them off with the eraser, put them back, and voila! Never seen again.

    I don't know how it works or what it is that does it, but erasers remove corrosion from copper.

    1. Re:AN ERASER! by dpaton.net · · Score: 3, Informative



      This is less than stellar. First off, if you actually see copper on RAM, AGP, PCI or any other edge card connector something is seriously f'd up.

      Edge cards are plated with tin/(lead)/nickel, or (90% of the time) gold. Gold is used because it doens't really oxidize, and if for some reason it does develop a microscopic layer of oxide, it's conductive and friendly.

      Any gook on the edge connector is the result of something else touching it. Kimwipes and alcohol would relaly be the best way to remedy this problem. If the item in question (like a known good vid card or DIMM or whatever) is removed and inserted a lot, the gold will wear. It's awesome for conductivity, but it's still soft. Treat it with care. If it's inserted and removed from a contact that doens't use gold plated fingers, you'll not only get wear, but you'll get oxide buildup from that other metal. This also applies to non-gold edge connectors into gold fingered sockets.

      Gold goes with gold, and nothing else, if you have any option at all.

      Clean with alcohol (97%) and some kind of chemical safe lab wipe (like Kimwipes). Use dry abrasives like erasers as a LAST RESORT. Your parts will thank you by giving you long and happy lives.

      </EE hat>

      And yes, I do remember the days of fixing flaky Apple //e's by dropping them 12" onto the table to reseat the cards and bump the oxidized fingers a mil or two. I also still shudder in horror every time I remember it.

      Be nice to your electronics.

      -dave

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  43. Re:This. by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 2, Informative

    A Logic Analyser: This is a device that looks a bit like an overly fat ballpoint pen with a wire attached. The idea is that you attache the wire to the ground of a circuit and with the tip of the pen you touch a part of the circuit and the leds (and with some: a buzzer) indicates if it is logicaly "high", "low" or oscillating. These can be switched between CMOS and TTL logic levels. Pretty handy to test low speed digital circuits, but pretty much useless for anything else.

  44. Tech bench by mculpepper · · Score: 2, Informative

    Where I work there are 5 techs and everyone of course has a better idea. First what will the owner or boss allow, if cost is an issue. 90% of everything on my bench I purchased, the bench it's self I found in a back room full of junk, pulled it out and came in on my own time and put togather. My most important tool I feel is my data recovery system which is not more than a all in one Abit board mounted on a plywood board. Easy access to replace drives and even install pci cards if needed. I can not tell you how many times a week I use it to recover and or backup data from a customers computer or scan for virus's. It is mounted on my bench, above and out of the way. I bought the board and got a used cpu from the many junk systems we get stuck with every year. I went with the KV-80 model which has onboard everything including SATA. It runs Windows 2000 Pro for the OS and has an 80 gig hard drive, with a usb external backup drive. As for the rest of my tools, the usual diag Microscope 2000 and any other software I can find, multi meter, small set screw drivers Bench has on monitor with a 4 port KVM switch. Keyboard is mounter under the bench, so as to not take us space on the bench surface. One of our techs is a wiz at making CD bootable diag disk. I must admit, each bench here is different but each tech can work on 3 computers or more at a time, and it happens from time to time. So you can imagine our benchs are much bigger than the one you have.

  45. depends what you work on by RMH101 · · Score: 2, Informative

    when i used to to this for a living i used a ground strap when working on laptops. prior to that, maybe 1 in 15 i opened had some possible ESD damage. afterwards, none. it certainly doesn't happen everytime but sod's law says when you don't do it, if you work with enough sensitive components, something will die/degrade when you're working on it due to ESD.

  46. do you do network by chrisnewbie · · Score: 2

    -One 8 port switch or router so you either update your pc there or configure small network if it applies.
    -screw containers
    -tool rack for screwdriver (damn compaq)
    -tie-raps by the thousand
    -cofee was previously mentioned
    -two or more power bars with wires already there so you dont always ahve to unwrap them from the new cases.
    -wheels on your workbench with a removable power source so your not limited to that work area.
    -One weird toy to say "hey it's my workplace"
    -One list of thing you dont do
    -Another list for things you do only if a 20$ bill accidentally fall into the specially designed drop box on the side of your workbench.

  47. Never use a vacuum cleaner! by Seng · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They can build up static so quick you'll kill more machines than you'd ever imagine! It's the dust moving across the hose builds up static charges quickly.

  48. Re:ah yes, grounding yourself on the case by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2, Insightful
    kills the static, also may kill you if you touch a hot rail in the PSU, or the PSU's faulty and shorting to ground.
    Ok...let's stop and think about this.
    If the PSU is faulty and is shorting to ground, then as soon as you plug it into the wall it's going to blow the fuse/breaker for the outlet, so no power to kill you with.
    If you mean the 12V supply is shorting to ground, then one of two things is going to happen:
    1. The power supply detects the short (they are built to do this, you know) and shuts down, so no power to kill you with.
    2. It's a cheap power supply that doesn't detect, and you get 12 volt on the outside of the case. Oooh, wow. Ever grab both terminals on a car battery? Try it some time. You won't feel a thing.

    If you're touching a hot rail in the PSU, then you're a stupid shit in the first place. Once you remove the case cover, the PSU is still inside it's own steel case. Typically you have to remove the PSU from the machine in order to open this case, and if you've still got it plugged in after all that, you should probably be dead, because your brain already is.
    If you open the computer case, and notice the gaping hole in the side of the PSU, because somebody removed the side of the PSU cover previously, and still keep working on it with it plugged in.....well, take a look at my previous comment.
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  49. Ram testers considered harmful by ktwombley · · Score: 2, Informative

    5. A common area with with a whole bunch of different ram testers.

    It may be that I'm more budget-conscious than others, but I think ram testers are a load of crap. They're expensive and quickly become obsolete as new types of ram comes out.

    A better solution, IMHO, is a couple known-good barebones PCs. For any modern computer you only need one supporting SDRAM and one supporting DDR. Neither machine needs a hard drive; just a bootable CD-Rom drive with a bootable memtest86 disk.

    This setup also doubles as a generic parts tester; you can plug any pci card, hard drive, cd drive, etc. into these barebones machines to verify failure. I use an ultimate boot cd in each machine. It comes with memtest , hard drive diagnostic tools, and a bunch of other diagnostic apps.

  50. Re:ah yes, grounding yourself on the case by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yes, but put one finger on the positive side of the coil (the 12V input), lick your other finger and put it on the negative terminal of the battery. You get a nice tingling sensation, also you now know that the circuit between the positive terminal of the battery and the coil is good.
    That's not 12V from the battery you're feeling. That a higher voltage induced from the ignition coil.

    When you have DC flowing through a high-impedance coil, there's a static magnetic field formed around the coil. Remove the DC supply, and the rapid collapse of this field induces a current in the coil flowing in the opposite direction from the original DC input.

    This is the principle by which your car ignition system works. The ignition coil doesn't have a constant current to it. Voltage is applied, builds up the magnetic field, and when it's time to spark the plug, the voltage is removed, and the collapsing field generates one hell of a high voltage across the secondary side of the ignition coil, which is typically many times the impedance of the primary side.

    You're feeling a little tingle of maybe 50 volts and a few milliamps on the primary side by doing what you describe. The secondary side has a voltage between 25,000 and 80,000, depending on the ignition system, but with only microamps of current available. That's why if you grab a spark plug lead when the engine's running, you feel quite the belt, but it doesn't do any damage. Not enough current.
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  51. Re:A sledge-o-matic by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Right, so after scrolling down a while and finding nothing on the actual topic of tools:
    1) 2 metcal re-work stations
    2) 2-3 rolls of solder, varying diameter
    3) 2 bottles of liquid flux (someone will steal one)
    4) IPA, swabs and cloth wipes
    5) Machinist chest (small) loaded with the RightTools (TM) (ESD safe snips, strippers, pliers, etc.)
    6) bin box for scrap devices and solder soaked wick for "proper" disposal
    7) PC w/ 17" LCD, mounted on a swivel arm.
    8) the kitchen sink.

    other:
    * One bench with an inspection microscope for taking nice pictures like this: http://xbx.networkboy.net/modules/gallery/albums/a lbum24/TEEPE_2X402S_TO_1_603CAP_TO_GROUND_SHOT2.pn g (should have a pair of very fine tipped soldering irons for re-work)
    * Community station with a Zyphertronics and low temp solder (you can recover and reuse the solder a couple times, feels chincy to do, but that shit is pricy)
    * Solvent tank, if you can afford it and the OSHA regs, etc. Makes cleaning boards a breeze.

    All the above is with re-work in mind, and if you need to do debug I highly suggest a seperate station or two with a good scope (I like Tek) and Logic analyzer, DMM (should have lots of these floating around any lab), etc.

    If you want some pics of my bench setups for my lab let me know (email the admin of the site the pic came from).
    -nB

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  52. Re:i'd put.. IDE expansion and SCSI conversion. by Forge · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would have kits and cables to conect any disk to a very simple, test "box" SCSI, SATA, IDE (2.5" & 3.5"). including a PERC 3/DC (Dell RAID card) Box is in quotes because it would never actualy be closed.

    It should have a multiboot disk drive (Linux and a few other OSs.) a 2nd very large drive for dumping rescued data. A DVD/CD burner and DAT drive for returning rescued data to clients.

    A small vacum cleaner and some canned air are esential (Broken computers tend to be dirty).

    A set of Jewelers screwdrivers (For laptop work).

    A Leatherman (look it up)

    And last but not least; an anty static wrist strap.

    PS: Ohh and a competent enginear. :)

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  53. More ideas from another small shop. by UncleRage · · Score: 2, Interesting
    In no particular order.

    1.Live Linux distro of choice (Ubuntu & Knoppix are both good choices) for recovery as mentioned below many times. These are invaluable -- I also include a labeled Ubuntu Live disc w/ every consumer job I perform.

    Winternals is not without it's merrit. Especially if you have a high volume of 2k/XP systems and are unfamiliar/uncomfortable with Linux.

    2. USB keydrives. 1 GB's are very cheap now. No reason not to have a couple w/ at least one set up for quick boot/recovery on drive.

    3. A larger monitor (as mentioned previously). 10-12 hours of staring at small screens makes me cranky. Even a 17" is a vast improvement (w/ minimal footprint increase).

    4. Seperate workbenches are a must: I've got a similar small workbench (5x4x5) specifically set for hardware work. That bench is for nothing but hardware installs, soldering work, etc...

    My second bench (a 7' table) is set up for installs, troubleshooting, etc... It has a small desk (actually, an old 80's industrial printer stand) with a 19" monitor, keyboard, mouse, KVM and a small 5-port linksys 10/100 hub (that ties into the main network). I am able to perform 4 simultaneous install jobs at once. Greatly reduces workload.

    5. A dedicated fileserver is a good idea. All it takes is a single job where the client insists (and is ready to pay) to have 100-200 GB of data backed up, for you to realize that shuttling data around on 1 GB keydrives is for the birds.

    6. An older laptop or SFF desktop (1GB P III, 512 MB Ram is more than enough... and very affordable via ebay -- less than $100 for a SFF Compaq Deskpro EN) for rolling out patches -- eliminates the necessity of burining weekly updates. This reduces network clog, and greatly lowers bandwidth requirements. You could pull double time w/ your file server... but I prefer for each piece of equipment to have a single dedicated purpose (not to mention, downtime is greatly reduced when one of your boxes goes down).

    7. Creature comforts. Whatever those may be.

    That last part may sound silly, but it isn't. All it takes is to get slammed w/ 7 or 8 straight 14 hour days and you'll soon realize that a handful of 15 minutes breaks with something enjoyable is a sanity keeper. As my shop has a LAN gaming center along with the PC sales and repairs, I have a 27" TV behind the counter attached to several old(er) consoles (Genesis, Saturn and a Dreamcast). It works with the overall theme of the business... and I really appreciate a quick button masher during crunch times. Along with this goes decent speakers for music, a small fridge, a pair of comfy slippers and a pair of sneakers for a quick 15 minute walk at some point in the day.

    I'm sure you'll figure out more things as time goes by (specific tools, a third station for console repairs or custom builds, magic fingers vibrating bed, etc...) The biggest thing is to maximize your space and be comfortable in it. I cannot stress this enough. If you're not comfortable, you cannot make your clients comfortable -- and if they are not comfortable, they won't come back.

    Anyway... good luck and congrats on the increase in business. Every time a friend of mine comes in to town he bitches and moans and looks at my little shop with envy in his eyes. He's always fond of saying... "Yeah, doing it on your own and not shoveling it for the man. You've got it made".

    Meanwhile, he's raking it w/ a major player, benefits, and all the toys he cares to buy (like a nice new convy Jag). Ah well, I guess it always looks better from the other side. ;)

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  54. How about real tools like ... by Forge · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would have kits and cables to conect any disk to a very simple, test "box" SCSI, SATA, IDE (2.5" & 3.5"). including a PERC 3/DC (Dell RAID card) Box is in quotes because it would never actualy be closed.

    It should have a multiboot disk drive (Linux and a few other OSs.) a 2nd very large drive for dumping rescued data. A DVD/CD burner and DAT drive for returning rescued data to clients.

    A small vacum cleaner and some canned air are esential (Broken computers tend to be dirty).

    A set of Jewelers screwdrivers (For laptop work).

    A Leatherman (look it up)

    test motherboards that support the more common dimm formats. (Cheaper than a memory tester).

    A stack of utility software like ghost and a Windows pasword hack utility.

    And last but not least; an anty static wrist strap.

    PS: Ohh and a competent enginear. :)

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    1. Re:How about real tools like ... by Qazimov · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This and parent have some great ideas for an advanced bench, but most repair places are not going to have any use for solder and so on when doing warranty (and non) repairs. Basically any warranty repair is not going to involuve it's use at all - even if fixing something that's no longer covered by warranty, few A+ tech's are going to be useful with an iron or a Perc raid card. (I may be mistaken, but don't most raid array's refuse to rebuild if you move the drives to anything other than the exact same card?) Definitely need the various tools, Jewlers screw drivers (with hex, torx and so on can be a life saver.) Vacum and compressed air for sure. I find the use of a simple USB/Firewire external drive is plenty for backing up data on 99% of the jobs a normal tech bench will see. Get two for a large bench with a couple people. A USB network adaptor - can be a real time saver, again. Voltmeter. And one thing that I found terribly useful and so cheap I'm surprised I don't see them more - Ice cube racks. When you're dismantling a system, you can go clockwise around the ice tray placing scres from each layer in a new mini-bin. THen when you are putting things back together you just work back through the bins/layers and make sure you get every screw back. This little trick makes it VERY easy to verify that you aren't missing pieces, or that you accidentally put another piece back in that blocks another screw and so on. (Things like that can totaly kill productivity on a bench) Also a good information workstation per engineer at the bench can make things run much smoother. Access to repair PDFs and online information possibly not from the manufacturer can help to save time.

  55. got walls? by j!mmy+v. · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Back when I'd primarily work on a bench with a wall behind it (as opposed to relatively-free-standing like I do now) I would always keep a mirror at the back of the bench, standing up and facing me.

    This is to counter the effects of J!mmy's Rule: "The interface ports you can't see are not where your fingers remember them being."

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  56. A firewall. Seriously. by myov · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Firewall off your test area. Viruses, worms, malware, irc, bots, etc. all want to get out and infect things, or will flood your network trying. Allow access to only the things the boxes need to see (windows update, antivirus/spyware, your local file server, etc). Block everything else, or at least be able to turn it off. Cache the updates and save bandwidth.

    Log everything and watch the logs to see what the malware is trying to hit.

    Ideally, use a managed switch and separate each port (or a few cheap routers) so that machines can't infect each other while they're connected.

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  57. USB Nic by ssand · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A USB Nic can be pretty handy. If you ever have to get drivers and updates for a machine that doesn't have a nic, or doesn't have nic drivers it can save you some time. Also, have a phone line available to test a 56k modem. While they seem like a thing of the past, people still use them.

  58. Dixie cups by DragonHawk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't forget a bunch of dixie cups. I find the small (3 oz) plastic ones work best. Keep em stacked up in a nook that will keep them from falling over.

    What for? Easy: For parts. When you start taking something apart, put the bits in a dixie cup. When you move to the next level/layer/component, put a new cup in the old one. When you're done taking apart, put an empty cup in the top of the stack. Now you've got all the parts, in a nice neat stack, reasonably safe from spilling, at a cost so low it's almost free.

    Yah, you can use those fancy bins and trays and stuff, but this is so much cheaper and can actually work better. Takes up less space, sometimes, too.

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  59. Re:well.. by stunted · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You've obviously got to have, screwdrivers, soldering iron, multimeter X 2, CD/DVD storage solution for install media, KVM, a bunch of angle-poise lights, ditch the CRT and get a couple of LCDs on the wall, (I still have a big CRT for photo editing but other than that I use LCDs) and a USB backup solution, I have an adaptec USB2 -> SCSI adapter and a DDS4 tape drive (except I can't find a SCSI 50 pin High Density (HD50) Female to Wide SCSI-3 High Density 68 (HD68) Male converter here so at the moment I have to drop in a PCI SCSI adapter) and it works a treat Bla Bla Bla...

    I'd add to the standard kit, an LED torch or 2 (flashlight if you must) that takes AA batteries and is operated by a button on the back, taped to one or both (more comfortable) of the ear arms of some safety goggles or glasses frames, these have the advantage of giving good spot lighting in those hard to reach bits without you having to stick said torch in you mouth causing you to dribble allover the place, they also make you look *SO* geeky people are afraid to ask you questions.

    For my mouse mat I have an A3 pad of black on white ruled paper (spine towards me) that gives very accurate response with my current cordless light mouse and the cordless ball mouse before it (also my mouse rollers never got dirty), you're never short of something to write on and when the page gets dirty just write the date on it, tear it off and file it as it will be covered in useful phone numbers and back of a fag packed calculations.

    I also have a naked test rig in the detachable motherboard bay of an old case, the cards get all the lateral support they need and you don't have to have the MB on the edge of the table.

    I'd like to have a sillyscope, a frequency generator and some other bits of cool but my desk is too small and my pockets are too shallow.

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  60. The Ultimate Toolbox by csb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lots of good tool tips in this old article at Tom's Hardware Guide:

    http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20020820/index. html

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  61. Emergency repair tool kit by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... which consists of a rabbit's foot, a magic wand, a crystal ball, and a hammer. A hand grenade is optional.

    (from the Repair FAQ)

  62. Mini-maglight by LPrecure · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most-used tool on our bench: Mini maglight flashlight (2-AA size). They come with a nylon holster, which can be easily attached to the bench.