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Final Fantasy IV One Of The Greatest Games
Gamespot's series of "The Greatest Games of All Time" rolls on with a look at Final Fantasy IV. Dubbed Final Fantasy II in the states, it was easily one of the best games to be released for the SNES. From the article: "The narrative in Final Fantasy II gripped you and shook you like a rag doll right from the beginning of the game. Your introduction to the protagonist, Cecil, took place on the deck of a military airship that had been ordered to extort a magic crystal from an innocent town (not a very heroic vocation). After his complicity in this war crime, the conscience-wracked Cecil was dismissed from the military and sent on an errand to a nearby town, along with his best friend Kain. Using generic archetypes for characters (like Final Fantasy's White, Black, and Red Mages, for instance) was standard operating procedure in RPGs at the time, but Final Fantasy II went off on a far more interesting tangent."
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Actually that links to a news article about some other game. Here is the correct link: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6132899/index.htm l?tag=boxcar_all_features_image
WARNING: If accidentally read, induce vomiting.
Apparently a slow news day in the Games section.
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WARNING: If accidentally read, induce vomiting.
Not only IV was an incredible breakthrough that shook and redefined the whole genre, Square kept adding and reinventing the saga in parts V and VI. Though not everybody really liked FFV, it did help the genre advance to what many people (myself included) is the culmination of the FF series: FFVI.
FFVI had everything that made FFI-FFIV great and none of the so-called flaws of FFV, while retaining its improvements in storyline structure and technical merits, and then went far beyond. It's nice to think Chrono Trigger's was released only months later, with a similar level of excellence.
FFVII was OK, neat and and even overwhelming for its time, but it started the trend to make RPGs more mainstream-friendly, up to the current marketing and merchandise fests we see today in FFX-2, Kingdom Hearts and the such.
I like to see the transition this way, FFI-III defined the series. FFIV-FFVI reinvented it and took it to the highest standards, achieved by very few games even today. FFVII-FFIX made it accessible to the masses. FFX and beyond are definitely taking the genre and the series to a new place again, though I'm not sure I like it, I haven't played FF to the end since part X.
So, yeah, FFIV marked the beginning of the era that ended with FFVI, I certainly agree with it being one of the best games of all time. I hope none ever get remade, only ported like the PSOne versions.
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The world is veiled in
darkness. The wind stops,
the sea is wild,
and the earth begins to rot.
The people wait,
their only hope, a prophecy....
'When the world is in darkness
Four Warriors will come....'
After a long journey, four
young warriors arrive,
each holding an ORB.
'They shall settle
In one single massive flamewar
The answer to which was best:
IV, VI, or VII.
The proper link: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6132899/ Final Fantasy II (I'm going to use American notation because I am - RPG snobs can shove it) was the game that turned me on to RPGs back when I was a wee lad. For a long time, I considered it one of the best games, well, ever. However, even on the SNES platform, it gets beaten out soundly by numerous other games. Final Fantasy III was similar in many, many ways, but soundly cleaned FF2's clock. You could say that FF2 was better simply because when it came out, it was far more innovative than any other RPG to date - but a better game? I tried to play FF2 on an emulator just 3 months ago for nostalgia purposes - and I couldn't bring myself to get past the antlion. It bored me senseless. Final Fantasy III offers much more depth and MUCH better developed characters. I can name RPGs on the SNES off the top of my head which I think have more emotional depth, better gameplay, were fairly innovative and JUST - MORE - FUN: Earthbound (#1!) Final Fantasy III Chrono Trigger Mario RPG Robotrek Secret of Mana Though I understand what TFA was going for, it is necessarily written through the eyes of a 7 year old boy: "The narrative in Final Fantasy II gripped you and shook you like a rag doll right from the beginning of the game." Please. "In Final Fantasy II, your characters weren't dumb marionettes; they were full-fledged actors and actresses, and they delivered knockout performances." Eesh, something tells me the author didn't bother to go back and play the game for this article.
People who grew up playing FF4 think it's the greatest RPG ever, just like people grew up playing FF7 think it's the best (same for FF6, FF10). All are good games, but how can you decide which one is the best ever without regarding to the nostalgia people have? If FF4 is a great time compared to games in its day, but if it's released today, even with updated graphics, will people think it's better than FF10? I doubt it.
Rubicant: I will show you how!
I always liked Rubicant, he was cool. Edge was a dumbass for casting a fire based spell on the fire elemental Fiend.
I remember FF2 fondly. Always felt a bit sorry for Kain, that he had to be charmed time and time again. As for which was best of FF2 and FF3, why must that choice be made? They're both great games, let's leave it at that.
I haven't played it yet. I haven't played any of the Final Fantasy games but I plan to at some point.
My "greatest games" like this would be the Ultima series, Bard's Tale, etc...
Final Fantasy IV (II) a pioneer in featuring moral dilemmas and character development? Don't make me laugh. Try Ultima IV, perhaps, which did it all half a decade earlier in 1985.
Puh-lease. Maybe Final Fantasy IV was something new and special in console terms, but computer-based RPGs were already way ahead, and providing little things like mature themes and non-linear gameplay that the Final Fantasy series still hasn't got the hang of, for all its flashy graphics.
Don't get me wrong - the FF series is on my "great games" list too, particularly nos. 5-7. Just don't go kidding yourself it ever broke any ground -- because it didn't, whatever its fanboys want to think. Truly Final Fantasy is the Halo of the RPG world.
Final Fantasy VI, which was a great game. Instead, they wrote FF IV, which is boring.
It is just an "I" misplaced, no big deal.
Most oldschool FF fans consider FF6 the peak of Final Fantasy. I disagree--as good as FF6 was, it doesn't compare to FF4. It's been years since I've played FF4, and it still ranks as one of my favourite games of all time.
If you haven't done so yet, play FF4 once, and see how great this game is.
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After you returned to Midgar and more or less destroyed Shinra, the story pretty much 'stopped'. The only story left was going to the North Crater and killing/stopping Sephiroth. Everything else was optional bosses (Emerald, Ruby and Ultimate Weapons), mini-games (Chocobo Breeding, need I say more?) or last minute 'collect'em all' items (all the Enemy Skill attacks, Forgotten Summon materia, etc).
It give you the freedom to move around, 'create your character', and able to make decision on what path to take. I love FF7 but the choices are kinda limiting to what you can do. FF7 always lead you down a path, to me that's not very RPG. www.gamejournals.com
Because they won't. As long as things sell they'll keep using the brand name because it helps sell things.
Look at the Ford Mustang... there were some around the mid '80s that decidedly were NOT really Mustangs, but the name helps sell things.
Would you pick up "Legendary Materia," or "Final Fantasy VII?"
I'm a _huge_ FF dork (figuratively), and even I'm smart enough not to comment on this one. It's a war waiting to happen.
Having just said that: FFIX had Freya Crescent, ergo it wins.
The thing that gets me about all these new (post FFVII) RPGs is how they feel the need to create teenage characters the player can supposably identify with. I'm sick of protaganists who wear "sk8er" pants, have gratuitously spiky hair, are constantly moody and speak with modern slang that will sound dated in 5 years. Cecily was a real RPG hero, no acne, no bitching, no hormones. He was a grown man, a professional knight with a steady girlfriend, not a surly teenager halfway through puberty. Please RPG-makers, give me characters that I can be proud to waste 30 hours of my life on.
Neither, as I believe I made clear.
...if you like camp, cliche, one-dimensional characters, final villains that come from out of nowhere, and overly simplistic gameplay. You can't even choose your party, for crying out loud.
Rob
this one was my fav ff of all time.
It was announced today by Nintendo that they would be releasing Final Fantasy 2/4 on the GBA. Hurrah!
Legendary Materia. FFVII sucks balls. I would rather play any 3rd party RPG than any of the 3-d FFs.
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