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Opera Free as in Beer

nekura writes "Just last month, Opera was celebrating their 10 year anniversary by giving away free registration codes; now they've trumped that by offering Opera for free. Quoth their site, 'Opera has removed the banners, found within our browser, and the licensing fee. Opera's growth, due to tremendous worldwide customer support, has made todays milestone an achievable goal. Premium support is available.' Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now has virtually no reason not to."

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  1. Torrents by BrianJOpera · · Score: 5, Informative

    torrents
    save the servers :P

    1. Re:Torrents by endoplasmicMessenger · · Score: 5, Funny

      BTW, Opera has torrent support built in. So once you install it, you can go get the torrent!

      Oh, wait...

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  2. No reason? I think not. by rockclimber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to.

    Except those who want free as in speech.

    1. Re:No reason? I think not. by LLuthor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Its easier to get Opera to make a change to their browser than Firefox. I needed a specific CSS feature that was used by my company on its pages, and neither FF or Opera supported it properly. I submitted the bug to Opera and to FF. I also wrote a patch later that week for FF. The FF developers completely ignored me and my patch and any further requests. Meanwhile, Opera's next beta had the problem fixed with no further interaction from me, except for an email request for a way to reproduce the bug. FF is open-source only in name and the fact that I can see the code. Every part of the development is totally closed.

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    2. Re:No reason? I think not. by poptones · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What are you talking about? The fact you HAD the source code to the firefox browser allowed you to solve the problem within your company with no dependance upon anyone else. Whether or not the Firefox developers moved your patch into the distribution, you still had the problem solved within your infrastructure because you were able to patch Firefox yourself.

      Open source does not mean the project leaders will solve every problem for the asking. Open source means you have the freedom and the information required to solve the problem yourself.

    3. Re:No reason? I think not. by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What if this on a website that clients use? It is a lot easier to say "Use the latest browers" than "If you want to use firefox, you have to use this custom built version I made so it would be compatible"?

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    4. Re:No reason? I think not. by black+mariah · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Thier policies toward code changes have nothing to do with thier license agreement.
      Which just goes to show that open source is pretty fucking useless unless you want to fork the entire fucking codebase of everything you submit a patch for.
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    5. Re:No reason? I think not. by Bogtha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Whether or not the Firefox developers moved your patch into the distribution, you still had the problem solved within your infrastructure because you were able to patch Firefox yourself.

      That's a distinctly sub-optimal solution. What happens when the next version of Firefox is released? Is he supposed to make the changes to the new version too? And after that? Is he supposed to maintain a separate fork for as long as he needs this feature?

      Open source does not mean the project leaders will solve every problem for the asking.

      No, but there's at least a reasonable expectation that they'll apply a patch that adds a missing feature.

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    6. Re:No reason? I think not. by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Free" has two meanings. The first is free as in cost. Free beer is an example where free means "costs nothing", so some people use this as a shorthand explanation. The other meaning is free in the sense of freedom. i.e. Unrestricted. Free Speech is free in this way, so some people say free as in speech to illustrate they mean this definition.

      Software is free in either of these ways. Internet Explorer is free to download so is free as in cost (Free as in Beer). Linux is free to copy and modify, so it's free in the sense of freedom (Free as in speech).

      It also has certain positive connotations that many free software advocates like. Free speech is regarded as a good thing. Associating free software with free speech gives it a positive image.

      Hope this helps.

    7. Re:No reason? I think not. by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Open source means you have the freedom and the information required to solve the problem yourself.

      If you're a developer with deep insight in the Mozilla codebase.

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  3. My reasons for not switching. by Alranor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now have virtually no reason not to

    AdBlock Plus
    BugMeNot
    CustomizeGoogle
    DictionarySearch
    Farkit
    Gmail Notifier
    Nuke Anything
    Plain Text Links
    Switch Proxy Tool
    Greasemonkey

    I'm glad there's a version without the annoying advertising, but it wasn't that which was keeping me from using Opera.

    1. Re:My reasons for not switching. by hkmwbz · · Score: 5, Informative
      Most of those are either available outside the browser (notifiers, etc.), or possible to do in Opera in some way (User JS to convert links in plain text files, built-in searches are there already, etc.). Greasemonkey is just the Firefox equivalent of User JS in Opera. It's rather easy to add a button to Opera which gets a BugMeNot login for the current page, too. As an example.

      Just FYI.

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    2. Re:My reasons for not switching. by sznupi · · Score: 5, Informative
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  4. Some info on their new revenue model by ziggamon2.0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Cut and paste from their investors FAQ:
    1. Search partners
    The Opera Browser features integrated search and shopping bars, and partner companies pay a fee to Opera every time a user utilizes the integrated search or shopping bar. Opera cooperates with a few select partners it feels can contribute value to its product and users. Deals with companies like Google, Fast, Lycos, InfoSeek, Yahoo, Amazon, and eBay are showing constant growth in revenues for Opera.

    2. Rendering engine as a separate product
    Opera delivers a full-featured, embeddable version of its desktop browser that can be integrated into a wide range of applications. Adobe and Macromedia are important partners in this segment.

    3. Opera Web Mail
    Opera provides a free and a pay service Webmail. When users pay for the premium service, Opera splits the revenue with Outblaze, the company that operates the service.

    It seems to me they have made a very wise choice. Being ad-free will increase the popularity of the browser tremendously, and thereby increase their incomes from sponsored search partners, like Google, which will probably more than compensate for their incomes from the paid browser, and annoying ads.
  5. Re:Free is good... by d3bruts1d · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yup... Opera has stated in the IRC, Blog, and forums that if you purchased Opera in the last 30 days you can get a full refund. I've purchased Opera no less than 5 times over the years (home, work, family, new version, etc.) and still I don't have an issue with Opera now releasing the product as free. I'll continue to support the product and the company. I like doing that for quality software.

  6. Re:Next Step by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Insightful


    How about "Never"... Opera actually make a PROFIT out of their browser business.. which is certainly better than "survival". Their main profit comes from their device platform but some people are indeed willing to pay for a better quality browser.

    Opera is much better, and quicker, to use than either of the other popular browsers out there, and some organisations will continue to pay for Opera based on that responsiveness and security. More often people will pay for the mobile browser however. If there is common code between the two then Opera would be releasing the crown jewels for free and would cease to be a VIABLE company.

    Open Source is NOT always the only answer, some people have to make a living.

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  7. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by simetra · · Score: 5, Informative
    • pop-up blocker, mouse gestures, etc, built in; no need to download/trust/install extensions from god knows who
    • changing settings, you don't need to close and re-open it every bloody time
    • built-in IRC client
    • built-in email client
    • built-in bit torrent client
    • highly-configurable thru gui, not through text file hacks
    • produced by an actual company with an actual interest in quality moreso than freedom/clunky-breakiness

    These are the main reasons I can think of, besides the features that are probably common to Opera and Firefox, such as being very fast (I didn't use FF long enough to tell if it was as fast as Opera), having community-built themes, etc.

    Basically, it comes "out of the box" ready to go and requires much, much, much less dicking around with to get it Just The Way I Like. This is really important to actual users, believe it or not.
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  8. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by adolfojp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Imagine Firefox with most of its plugins in a smaller, more responsive package, and not feeling that you are using a Frankenbrowser.

    Now imagine being able to disable any page's design so that you can improve readability. Also imagine being able to store a number of pages in sessions instead of individual bookmarks. Imagine a button that stores the links of the pages that you have just closed in case that you want to open them again. Imagine true page zooming, a RSS reader, irc chat, and a gmail like mail client in less than 4 MB.

    Whenever I use anything else I feel as if I am not getting the whole internet experience.

    Cheers,
    Adolfo

  9. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I can't let this pass. The first free browser was WorldWideWeb in 1991 from none other than T. Berners-Lee himself.

    Cello also predates Netscape.

  10. Re:Good by packman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a P910i, and Opera is supplied on CD. It's a rather big application (2/3mb if I recall well) after being installed. For a symbian phone, that's big, so I can understand they choose not to by default.
    They can't strip out the "default" symbian browser cause that's rather integrated and heavily used in the UIQ interface. Opera will however be the default browser on UIQ 3.0 platforms where it will replace the symbian browser.

  11. Re:What merits? by masklinn · · Score: 5, Informative
    I had great hopes for Opera, so I'm the more bitter about how they, IMO, misprioritized development. In comparison, the FireFox team did everything right. It took a few years waiting for Mozilla to come around, but now it's here and it's solid, while Opera isn't even small or fast any longer. Too bad.

    As much as I love Firefox, using it as my main browser and all, that has to be corrected.

    • Opera's installer is lighter than Firefox's
    • Opera takes about 20% of the memory a regular Firefox takes, and if you use firefox for a few hours on content-filled website you'll end with the fox hogging 200Mb of RAM while Opera will still be far under 50Mb
    • Opera's javascript engine is about 15-20 times faster than Gecko's
    • Standards support of Opera is comparable to that of Gecko.

    Opera is still lighter than Firefox, and still faster, by a far margin.

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  12. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by cgenman · · Score: 5, Informative

    As an avid Opera user, and a fan of Firefox, they can similar to a light or average user. I'll assume here that you're familiar with both.

    I like to think of Opera as a highly configurable tool for heavy users who like to get their hands dirty with their tools, and Firefox for everyone else. Opera is highly configurable, has nice data semi-permanence features, and there are a million advanced options that speed up use for people willing to learn about what it can do.

    If you don't like where the menu bar is, you can move it to the bottom of the screen, or to the sides, or you can move the buttons to a different bar, or move the buttons from other bars to that one. You can liberally re-arrange everything about the interface to suit your particular tastes, and can add and remove buttons and functionality as you please. I've seen people who have all of the functionality of the browser on a single pop-up address bar on the side of the window, and others that spread everything around onto dozens of little areas.

    And there are quick and easy buttons available in the interface for everything: from zooming to above 100% to changing your "identify as" to toggling javascript. Basically all of these behave intelligently. If you hold the zoom drop-down button you get a standard drop-down menu to select the zoom resolution you want, and if you click on it, it automatically resets to 100%. And you move buttons by simply grabbing and moving them, which is very easy and convienient.

    If you're comfortable editing a simple menu.ini file, you can add or subtract menu options. As a real-world example, you can add menu options for "open in I.E." "Validate HTML" "Validate Links" and "Spell Check" pretty easily to the right-click menu. While these can't be completely new code, you can pipe existing functions together in new ways to create things that do new behaviors.

    Unlike Firefox's extensions you can't add extensive code that doesn't already exist. You can, however, run external applications which seems to cover the extreme cases. But if I needed to code an HTML editor in an extension, for example, I would recommend Firefox as a base over Opera. But for nearly all other personal customization, I'd go with Opera.

    Data permanence is also a big issue in Opera. If you go backwards and forwards in Firefox, you lose any text you may have typed into a comment box. If you go backwards and forwards in Opera, your comment stays right where it was. On Slashdot this lets you go a couple of links back, launch a new window with the story in it, and go back forwards to what you were writing. It also caches the rendered page, so that going forwards and backwards is instantaneous.

    You can also undo closing tabs. I can't tell you the number of times this has come in handy. Unfortunately, comment fields are not permanent across tab or application closures, something I wish they would fix. However, you do keep your history on that tab, which is nice. You also have windows open across sessions. If the application crashes or is accidentally closed, you can re-open it with all of your tabs still in place, and can still go back and forwards through their histories. Basically, Opera crashing is a 3 second fix, while Firefox crashing requires tediously going back through the history figuring out where all of your tabs were.

    You can also save all of your open tabs or windows as a session, and can re-open sessions as bookmarks, on startup, etc.

    There is also basic psuedo command line functionality, in that you can convert any *.[space]TEXT into http://www.yoursearchengine.com/search?q=TEXT. "g footloose" will search google for the term "footloose". "z firefly" will search amaZon for "firefly." I personally have searches setup for ebay, friend's bulletin boards, language translators, and a whole lot else.

    The mail client was the first mail client that I know of to use freestanding searches as virtual folders, but tha

  13. Open-Source as end-user feature!? by porneL · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Did you patch and compile your Firefox? Or did you just download binary like 80 millions other users?

  14. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by endoplasmicMessenger · · Score: 5, Informative
    One Opera feature that I'm addicted to: Undo on tab close.

    After having drilled ten levels deep into a web site I accidently close the tab. With Opera, just Undo and you're back where you were.

    On Firefox, well, lets hope you remember how you got to that tenth level.

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