Slashdot HTML 4.01 and CSS
After 8 years of my nasty, crufty, hodge podged together HTML, last night we finally switched over to clean HTML 4.01 with a full complement of CSS. While there are a handful of bugs and some lesser used functionality isn't quite done yet, the transition has gone very smoothly. You can use our sourceforge project page to submit bugs and we'd really appreciate the feedback. Thanks to Tim Vroom for putting the HTML in place, Wes Moran for writing the HTML in the first place, and Pudge for writing the code to convert
900k users, 60k stories, and 13 million comments to comply. And for the brave, download the stylesheet and start experimenting with new themes and designs for Slashdot: some sort of official contest to re-design Slashdot is coming soon, so you can get a head start now.
Response to some reader notes in the forum:
- There are a handful of validation errors. Some will be fixed in the next day or so. Others are external HTML that is out of our hands. We may never toally validate with zero errors. yes we're comfortable with that.
- We're not going to XHTML for the same reasons as above- we control almost all of our HTML, but some of it (like the ads, and imports from other sites) just isn't ours to muck about with. We could go to XHTML, and someday we might, but today we're happy to just get to HTML 4.01 and CSS.
- Light Mode will be back in some form or another. The problem is that light mode served two purposes: Low Bandwidth, and Simplified Design. The later will probably be handled with a CSS theme (we have a handheld theme already). Low Bandwidth is a little trickier, but we will resolve that soon.
- All of our code is beta tested on www.slashcode.com and use.perl.org. Unfortunately there's always a few issues from those tiny tiny sites and the giant bohemoth that is Slashdot itself.
I for one, welcome our new Standards Compliant Overlords.
How does the Slashdot Effect happen given that no slashdotters ever RTFA?
April's Fool day again?
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I just checked this morning and noticed something different looks great. Hell of a lot better then before. Looks a lot cleaner and sleaker. However my only concern is if you included an automated duper-detector. Or is that asking too much?
I would mod you up for that comment but...
Time to get on the Duke Nukem watch...
So that's what is wrong with it. I have been looking at the page all day thinking there was something weird going on and now I know!
"I have the attention span of a strobe lit goldfish, please get to the point quickly!"
I was just going to ask if we could get a few more CSS styles like we saw in the Beta.
Yes - I'd really love to view every page in my favorite one, automagically!
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After eight years, this news website has finally gotten around to using proper HTML.
So, will it be another eight years before this news website gets around to using some proper editors?
"A goldfish was his muse, eternally amused"
'Times New Roman' is so 27BC. It'd only take one line of css to get something with class. Like 'Comic Sans MS'. Everyone loves 'Comic Sans MS'.
I think from now on everyone should/font> messages to make it appear as if there are all kinds of @bsyrdyrd errors in the new system. They'll try to track down the bugs for weeks.
"Just looking at the source doesn't give me a headache anymore though, which is a massive improvement."
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Yeah, all I see now is blonde, brunette, redhead.
Wait a minute, that's not
"Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled."
chickens
They do, we're it.
Now that pages take so much less time to render in browsers, Slashdot.org has reduced the overall computational load on the Web. So much less heat generated by browsing computers, so much less power consumed, foreign oil and coal burned. Of course, now we'll more swiftly move from the Front Page directly to Slashdotting some poor server unwittingly mentioned in the story. Maybe the smoke from burning servers will make up for our horde of cleaner-running Slashdotters.
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>I'd prefer that they worry less about standards compliant code, testing, and other bullshit...
Hi, Bill! How are things going Redmond these days?
It's both; News for Nerds _and_ Stuff that matters.(TM)
What a combo!
about your sig:
There are 11 types of people in the world: those who can count in binary, and those who can't.
and you are the missing third type: people who suggest that they can count in binary but really can't
I was wondering why Slashdot looked all screwed under IE5.0 at school.
Some think the Internet is a bad thing. I just think that AOL is a bad thing.
.dupe { display: none; }
but is this getting us any closer to the new Duke Nuk'em? Shouldn't you boys be working on that?
This
Wow, what an exciting life you live.
... slashdot does not work with Netscape 4 when I try it today.
It sucks in Mosaic 1.0 as well.
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
Hahahahahaha :)
Definitly congrats on the upgrade. Slashdot opens so much smother for me now.
I do believe you guys are up for a case of beer or two.
Last but not least, the "Politics" and "Apple" sections look as nice as ever,
:) apple is pretty, and most of the rest just dont cut it.
of course the apple section looks nice as ever. thats just how things are
Show some repect, coward! That's a 2-digit UID you're talking to!
Not sure what's going on, but every once in a while, the same story shows up twice on the homepage. Sometimes the wording is different, but it's basically the same story. Maybe you guys should use FrontPage to check your code.
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I'm visualizing a 300-pound beatnik. ooo, that's nasty...OK, maybe that's a typical slashdot member...
Have you read my blog lately?
Ahem: HOWTO Spot a Wannabe Web Standards Advocate.
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It's turning into a morph of Godwin's Law.
Because it's my law, I will call it MFH's Law:
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
+4 Funny for "Hahahahahaha :)"?!!! Hell, I can beat that. Check it:
:D
"BWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!"
oh and
"Now, I know that Slashcode is inherently badly written, but I've got to assume that it's still dynamically driven, making the actual amount of HTML across all of Slashdot tiny, actually."
Yet you still come here everyday to complain. You're like Stadtler and Waldorf all rolled into one.
Cue the Muppets theme tune...
Oh, and UID 0 is always the current user
So, does that mean every user on Slashdot has root or something? >:-)
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
>No matter what W3C claims, it's not really possible to modify a document so a HTML4 parser gives the same DOM as an XML parser--the grammars conflict.
Yes, I too expect that we'll drop all this XML junk and go back to SGML, real soon now.
I have a journal about this, kinda. Most of those users seem to have fled, or don't post anymore. :-)
:-D what is a 2-digit ID worth? I saw from upthread that people must actually sell them. What will people pay for them?
I don't see how I always get suckered into 'low UID' threads (somehow they always get modded up past my threshold). Oh, and to all you haters: I did not buy this UID on eBay
Read Heinlein's 1953 Revolt in 2100, now more than ever.