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Computer Jargon Too Difficult for Office Workers

slashflood writes "Most office workers find computer terms such as javascript and jpeg just as difficult to understand as a foreign language, according to a new survey. A poll of 1,500 staff by recruitment firm Computer People showed that three out of four wasted more than an hour every week simply finding out what some technical term meant. 'A massive 61% don't understand the difference between gigabytes, kilobytes and megabytes and as a result have sent e-mails with huge attachments that have blocked clients' systems.'"

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  1. Its not just computers. by suso · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its not just computer jargon that is confusing

    I still don't know what TPS stands for.

    1. Re:Its not just computers. by Eslyjah · · Score: 5, Informative

      I still don't know what TPS stands for.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPS_report.

    2. Re:Its not just computers. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Test Procedure Specification" as defined by IEEE 829, mostly used in government work.

      And as far as I'm concerned, workers need to get used to the jargon or take a hike. Measurements and particular jargon abound in all walks of life. If you're making cookies, for example, you need to understand a cup, teaspoon, pint, etc. (or liter and the like if you're not American). If you build a shed, you need to know what a foot or meter is, don't you? In those disciples, you also need to know things like what a hammer is, or a mixer. Computers aren't any different. No one is asking that the average user understand coding, but understanding things like storage space is a requirement.

    3. Re:Its not just computers. by op12 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I still don't know what TPS stands for.

      Didn't you get that memo?

    4. Re:Its not just computers. by xsbellx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What is truly amzaing is how we haven't managed to blow up the world yet with all of these acronyms especially when they are so context specific.

      To my simple mind, TPS is "Transactions Per Second". "Test Procedure Specification" would never have entered my mind.

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    5. Re:Its not just computers. by stonedonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Measurements and particular jargon abound in all walks of life. If you're making cookies, for example, you need to understand a cup, teaspoon, pint, etc. (or liter and the like if you're not American). If you build a shed, you need to know what a foot or meter is, don't you? In those disciples, you also need to know things like what a hammer is, or a mixer. Computers aren't any different.

      True, but a computer is a device, not a tradecraft. Furthermore, unlike a device like a car or pocket calculator, it is a platform for entertainment and productivity, and it is far more complex than both and truly requires an additional vocabulary to operate it efficiently. And the complexity isn't necessarily the hardware, but in the lack of standardization, the abstraction of the interface, and in the necessities of modern security. The home computer is still a novelty to the general public, believe it or not. Partly because it's still a relatively expensive investment and prone to all kinds of exploits, tricks, and scams as soon as you connect it to the Internet.

      Think about evertyhing you must put in place to properly secure a Windows PC, for example. First, you must install a virus scanner. For the majority of users, this *is* a must, because they really aren't savvy about e-mail attachements, message spoofing, and shady-looking websites. Then you need at least a software firewall, which pops up a prompt the first time each app request a network connection -- and the prompts aren't always very informative. Win32 Generic Host Process? Um, okay, I guess. Either that, or you get a router, and that requires hooking it up with the modem and the computer. And God help you if you need to start forwarding ports and setting up wireless encryption. Then there's IE's default settings that allow browser helper objects, referral IDs, and every cookie that gets thrown your way.

      So what to do when you don't even know what a firewall is? When you aren't aware of the importance of shrinking down that huge "jpeg" you took with your digital camera before mass mailing it to all your friends and family who have email addresses? There's a lot of technical awareness that /. takes for granted, but it's important to remember that we represent a very small percentage of the populace.

    6. Re:Its not just computers. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How many words specific to a washing machine do you need to know to operate one?

      Washing Machine: Hot cycle, Cold cycle, Permanent Press, Colors, Whites, Dry Clean Only, Gentle, Cotton, Polyester, etc, etc, etc.

      I hate to say it, but those things are damned hard to operate properly.

      ? Most of us drive every day, yet many don't know the jargon for the parts of what a car does.

      Car: Accelerator/Gas, Brake, Shift, Gear, Mile(KM), Miles(KM) per Hour, bucket seats, overdrive, fuel efficiency, gallons, gas tank, windshield, wipers, wiper fluid, oil/lubricant, glove compartment, tire rotation, coolant, etc, etc, etc.

      And yes, you need to know these things to operate it.

      We just want to turn the key and go somewhere.

      If you think about that for a moment, you'll realize that you won't get very far. Plus you have to understand what a keyed ignition is first, not to mention the steering wheel, the gas, the brake, the shifter... ;-)

    7. Re:Its not just computers. by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So what to do when you don't even know what a firewall is?

      You learn. A firewall is a very simple idea - it attempts to keep dangerous stuff away from you, just like a real firewall.

      When you aren't aware of the importance of shrinking down that huge "jpeg" you took with your digital camera before mass mailing it to all your friends and family who have email addresses?

      Knowing about files and their sizes is a basic part of operating a computer. That's like driving a car and not knowing that you have to change the oil.

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    8. Re:Its not just computers. by hetfield_guitar · · Score: 2, Funny

      And Uh, I'll go ahead and make sure you get another copy of that memo Mmmm, Ok?

    9. Re:Its not just computers. by Enigma_Man · · Score: 4, Informative

      A lot of people complain about automotive analogies, but I really like them:

      Knowing about files and their sizes is a basic part of operating a computer. That's like driving a car and not knowing that you have to change the oil.

      Not anymore. Any new car you buy, they tell you to bring the car in for service every 3000, 5000, or what-have-you miles. They don't tell you every specific thing they're going to do. They might not even necessarily mention that they're changing the oil. Obviously most people have been brought up enough around cars to realize that you need to change the oil every so often, but that's often the extent of their knowledge. If you bring up other maintenance, like flushing of coolant, suspension alignment and greasing, brake fluid changing; a lot more people will know a lot less information about it. While it may be obvious to an auto-enthusiast, people just don't know what they have to do, which is why manufacturers have "service intervals" where they do _something_ and your car continues to work. It stands to reason that most people probably need something like this for thier computer, something that automatically scans/protects/assumes things for them, such that for 99% of people, their computer "Just Works", just like for 99% of people, the service you get at the dealership so your car "just works" is ok-happy-fine.

      -Jesse

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    10. Re:Its not just computers. by wolfdvh · · Score: 2, Informative
      To my simple mind, TPS is "Transactions Per Second". "Test Procedure Specification" would never have entered my mind.

      The problem is there are too many of these and not enough "letters" ;-)

      The current one that jumps out at me every time I hear it is: SOA

      To these aged ears that is clearly 'Start of Authority' as one would see on DNS servers. Now those letter have been co-opted with some new buzzword compliant term that I still don't remember because when I hear it I first think of its orignal meaning.

    11. Re:Its not just computers. by Zerbey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Washing Machine: Hot cycle, Cold cycle, Permanent Press, Colors, Whites, Dry Clean Only, Gentle, Cotton, Polyester, etc, etc, etc.

      Oh come on...:

      * If you wear it: wash it in cold, or luke warm if it's really dirty. Separate white and colours.
      * If you sleep on it (bedsheets, you dirty bastards): wash it warm
      * If you dry or wash yourself with it, wash it on hot.

      As far as the dryer is concerned, never, ever, use the hottest setting (which my dryer does by default for some stupid reason) unless you intent to shrink everything :).

      Seriously, it's not that hard. Most things you wear have instructions on the label. You do know how to read a manual, right?

    12. Re:Its not just computers. by anotherone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd wager that a fair percentage of drivers don't realize that they have to change the oil, either.

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    13. Re:Its not just computers. by Andrewkov · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or you could just drive it until it breaks.. I've saved a lot on unnecessary repairs over the years. (I do believe in regular oil changes, though)

    14. Re:Its not just computers. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't have to understand how my car works to drive it.

      Why yes, yes you do.

      And it's not so much a matter of how it works as how to operate it. You can't effectively operate a computer without understanding things like storage measurements.

      I don't have to understand how the electric motor in my blender works to make a smoothie.

      No, but you do have to understand what blend, puree, high, low, and off mean. You also need to know how to measure the milk, ice, and flavoring. Which requires an understanding a units, doesn't it? Just like the units on a hard drive!

      I don't have to understand plasma dynamics or scan lines or pixels to watch TV.

      Nor do you need to understand head movement, staged pipelines, wait states, or memory refresh cycles to operate you computer. But you *do* need to understand the power button, channels, volume, video source, audio in/out, RCA cabling, and a variety of other details to operate your TV. You probably even need to understand measurements to make sure your TV will fit your home! (There's those pesky units again!)

      If something like 61% of computer users are confused by even the most basic computer jargon, then the users aren't broken - the computers and software are broken.

      No, the users are broken enough. The problem is that you have a generation that didn't grow up with computers. They're the ones having problems. (Remember, baby boomers outnumber the baby busters.)

      It was the same problem with cars. Have you ever seen an old lady driving *really* slowly down the road? Ever wonder why they do that? It's because they didn't grow up with cars. Since they didn't experience the concept early on, they had difficulties with it later in life. For example, my mother had the hardest time teaching my grandmother to drive years ago. My grandmother kept wanting to look out the side window, because that was what she was used to doing!

    15. Re:Its not just computers. by bdeclerc · · Score: 2, Informative

      And in Europe it gets worse, with all the different languages... SOA in Dutch means STD (as in AIDS, Syphillis and the like :)

  2. Article misses the point by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I laughed myself sick reading this article...especilly the oh-so-helpful second page, entitled 'what it all means'.

    Here's an especially good one from the list:
    • Excell - this helps to run programs on your PC.

    With 'helpful' articles like this, us IT professionals should remain in demand for a good long time. ^_^

    But seriously, a good IT professional isn't one who's good at explaining the jargon, or getting laypeople to understand the technical isues...it's one that takes care of the issues for the laypeople, so they don't need to worry about them. A correctly managed IT department should be all but transparent to the other people in the office. Everything should just work, with the IT guy making certain the users' needs are met before they even know what they are. In a correctly managed facility, the IT guy's phone should almost never ring.
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    1. Re:Article misses the point by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 2, Funny

      Erm. There were no studies cited by this article, making it even more laughable. Some guy in Wales says Office people have a hard time understanding ITSpeak. I say I have a hard time understanding a welsh accent in the FIRST place, so it's completely possible that if someone was discussing Network setup in Welsh I wouldn't even have anything to compare it to, seeing as NetworkSpeak is so foreign to even certain types of IT professionals.

      But regardless, it has no 'base' layer of knowledge, no gradation, and no real study... Now a study, I'd be quite interested in that kind of study.

    2. Re:Article misses the point by canfirman · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Also notice from TFA:

      Among office workers 26% aren't sure what a firewall does and therefore have been tempted to turn it off.

      ...and yet, on the second page, they didn't even explain what a firewall was, so I guess that 26% still won't know.

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    3. Re:Article misses the point by TurdTapper · · Score: 2, Funny

      Is it some UK term that I'm missing? Or is he just proving he is part of the statistics in his report?

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    4. Re:Article misses the point by Nos. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But seriously, a good IT professional isn't one who's good at explaining the jargon, or getting laypeople to understand the technical isues...it's one that takes care of the issues for the laypeople, so they don't need to worry about them.

      I think you came very close to hitting the nail on the head, but instead walked away with a brusined thumb. For most of us, understanding the issues that these people don't understand is common knowledge to us. We can take the time to explain these things to our customers or we can fix the problem, we can explain how to avoid similar problems in the future, or structure the environment to avoid them. To me, a "good IT professional" is one who recognizes what the customer wants and provides. Having worked a few help desk and similar type positions, I can tell you that some people don't want the problem fixed, they want to understand the problem. Others don't care, they just want it to work.

      Now, there may be other obstacles to providing exactly what the customer wants. Most help desks don't want you spending 20 minutes on the phone with someone explaining why sending Grandma who's on dial up, 20 pictures from your 8MP digital camera may not be a good idea. However, I've always found that taking the time you have available to explain things at the level the customer wants, results in a much happier customer.

      I said customers, but this of course can apply to anyone for whom you are working on a problem for. This also applies outside of IT. When I had someone in last year to clean our ducts, I spent a lot of time talking with him to find out what I could do to reduce dust and such in the air and picked up a lot of valuable information that has saved me money since then. Next time I need the ducts cleaned, I'll be calling him back because he was willing to pass on information and experience to me.

    5. Re:Article misses the point by sedyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I almost spit out my tea while reading the worm part.

      But to comment on the quote: "But I don't feel I should know more - that is their job. If we did it all ourselves they would be out of a job." There is a big difference between knowing how to do day to day things (like not running programs from shady websites / MSN / email / etc.) and knowing how to configure a computer.

      To entend the car analogy, I recall being a small child and not knowing what the "triangle" button did. And, being four or five, I had two viable options, push the button, or ask. In my experience with supporting users, either case is terrible for support staff (they either have to explain way too much, or fix the broken machine). Pity support staff.

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    6. Re:Article misses the point by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful
      But seriously, a good IT professional isn't one who's good at explaining the jargon, or getting laypeople to understand the technical isues...it's one that takes care of the issues for the laypeople, so they don't need to worry about them.

      This is only sort of true. Sometimes users have to know some jargon. Sometimes users have to understand the technical issues well enough to avoid them. A real helpdesk pro (or anyone that deals with customers/users) will avoid jargon when possible. When technical issues need explaining, a good IT professional will distill the issues into a couple simple metaphorical ideas, making them no more complicated than they must be, and expect that the user probably won't remember the explanation for next time.

      Some users even insist on knowing why. You tell them you can't send an EXE through the e-mail system, and they ask "why?". You tell them it's a security issue, and they say, "so?"

      Some users won't accept any explanation they're given if it keeps them from doing what they want, and that's the real measure of your skill. How well does your helpdesk tech deal with the belligerent CEO who is completely irrational and has unrealistic expectations? If your tech can walk away, without giving in to the unrealistic demands, but also without the CEO feeling insulted or ignored, your tech has just earned his paycheck.

      So what am I saying? Forget the education angle. Users can't be educated. The real key to helpdesk interaction is to keep your users happy and feeling good about their computers, so that when you tell them "You can't do that," you won't really have to explain why (with all the jargon). They'll just believe you.

      I'm barely joking.

    7. Re:Article misses the point by Soko · · Score: 2, Funny

      In a correctly managed facility, the IT guy's phone should almost never ring.

      Mine never rings. It's not because the lusers don't have problems, I've just instilled the correct level of fear in them - turned my fair share into "high protien animal feed slurry".

      Let me re-write your conclusion a bit:

      In a correctly managed facility, with correctly managed lusers, the BOFH's phone will never ring.

      Soko

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    8. Re:Article misses the point by techno-vampire · · Score: 2
      My favorite was: "Jpeg - this is a compressed picture file."

      Not very helpful is it, when he doesn't bother to define "compressed?"

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    9. Re:Article misses the point by ChocoBean · · Score: 2, Insightful

      very good, sir, very good

      some people really do want to know, and if you're there to help them with it, I think that's part of the job.

      other people don't want to know what something means not because he's stubborn or stupid, but sometimes it's only because "the issue will never come up again"

      I think that everyone's time is just as valuable as mine, and there are a lot of things I don't know about that others do, such as how to work an excel spreed sheet properly. It's not because they're stupid, it's simply because they have other things to take care of while we had our time to learn what things mean. To me, a good IT person will teach you how to do most simple things that the user is likely to see again, but will take difficult tasks, or tasks that are unrelated to the user's usual work day, off his hands.

    10. Re:Article misses the point by Hrodvitnir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You think teaching a CEO is hard. Try teaching a teacher.

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    11. Re:Article misses the point by anotherone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because they know how to use a question mark!

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    12. Re:Article misses the point by Darth_Burrito · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd go a step further and say that a good IT professional also operates in a manner designed to increase the knowledge and abilities of coworkers regardless of whether or not they want to learn. In this I don't mean being annoying, forcing people to learn, or being confrontational... but rather using subtle strategies to demonstrate or convey knowledge.

      For example, a number of my users occassionally use loaner laptops for presentations, but they really do not "get" dual displays. Why does projector screen show something different than this screen? But I want to see presentation notes on the laptop screen but not the projector! More than once, these folks have been stuck in front of mostly technical audiences, unable to get their presentations going.

      These same kind of people are the ones who want things to "just work" and who don't want to spend any time understanding how to operate the equipment. To combat this in a non confrontational manner, I'm pushing dual displays for a few users in the office. The hope is that we can increase a few people's productivity while simultaneously spreading understanding of the operation of dual displays throughout the office.

      I'm also looking into methods to allow users who normally have a helpless mentality to figure out how to do certain tasks without extensive IT intervention. For example, we have a few people that we've had to walk through burning cds in xp multiple times. We've provided written instructions with variable success. I'm looking into getting screen capture/video software that would let us produce extremely easy to follow tutorials. The next time, a user asks for help burning a cd, we'll send them the tutorial first before visiting them for the nth time.

      A lot of people get angry or embarassed when they have to ask for IT support. This is one of the main reasons people become adverse to learning about computers. If we can give people the ability or at least the illusion that they can help themselves, then they will be more open to learning in the future. A downloadable tutorial that they can follow by themselves and refer back to later gives people that sense of independent achievement.

      Sometimes you have to do a salesman job. We've got a few users who refuse to abandon Eudora Pop mail clients. They refuse to switch to Outlook because they don't want to learn anything. So, without confronting them on this issue (yet) we've been doing things like introducing them to Webmail (OWA) and selling them on storing mail on the server (imap) all the while making it more and more desirable to switch to Outlook (or hell - anything other than Eudora). Of course, jumping through all these gradual transition hoops is a LOT of work for us. It would probably be more efficient for the business unit if we just kicked them into Outlook.

      Anyways, the moral is there are a lot of subtle things you can do to improve the competency and confidence of your coworkers regardless of whether or not they want to learn.

  3. Users aren't the only problem by MoxCamel · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Among office workers 26% aren't sure what a firewall does and therefore have been tempted to turn it off.

    Among CIOs, an amazingly large number of them think that office workers should have the permissions to turn their firewall off.

    A massive 61% ... have sent e-mails with huge attachments that have blocked clients' systems.

    A massive number of mail administrators don't know how to configure their mailservers thus allowing this to happen.

    I could go on...

    1. Re:Users aren't the only problem by Neil+Watson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ok, so you limit the size of allowed email attachments to a frugal 3MB. Now someone sends a 3MB attachment to all 500 people that use the mail server.

  4. News at 11... by Steamhead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other news people have trouble understanding lawyer speak, medical terms, names of car components, how to build a house to proper code, publishing industry slang etc...

    I guess that means people just have to learn eh?

    1. Re:News at 11... by swestcott · · Score: 3, Insightful

      OH my god Learn somthing new you must be crazy I want you to do it for me and no I am not going to watch and learn how to do it my self

    2. Re:News at 11... by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Insightful
      > In other news people have trouble understanding lawyer speak, medical terms, names of car components, how to build a house to proper code, publishing industry slang etc...
      >
      > I guess that means people just have to learn eh?

      And that's the fundamental problem. Most people these days not only don't think they have to learn, they don't think they should have to learn. (And why, indeed, should they? Since the 1970s and 1980s, their teachers pretty much gave up teaching in the name of boosting self-esteem. If self-esteem is something everybody has - that is, if it's not something earned through performance, then everybody can feel great about themselves even though they're a bunch of ignorant fuckspittles who'll be first under the water when the revolving hurricane comes.)

      Every time you hear someone say "I shouldn't have to read the manual to figure out how to use it!", you're seeing another example of the problem.

    3. Re:News at 11... by dominion · · Score: 2, Interesting

      (And why, indeed, should they? Since the 1970s and 1980s, their teachers pretty much gave up teaching in the name of boosting self-esteem. If self-esteem is something everybody has - that is, if it's not something earned through performance, then everybody can feel great about themselves even though they're a bunch of ignorant fuckspittles who'll be first under the water when the revolving hurricane comes.)

      I've heard this over and over again, and I fail to see where this concept of education originated. Nobody has ever given up teaching in the name of boosting self-esteem. Although teachers don't smack kids around anymore, and they make an effort to not call a kid a know-nothing retard, doesn't mean that school is just one big shoulder massage.

      If anything, teaching has been replaced by rote memorization in the name of standardized tests. This is why nobody has the skills to learn things on their own, most of schooling is the teacher handing you the answer, and asking you to memorize it so you can spit it out at a later date. Self-esteem has nothing to do with it.

      And as for the comment about the Hurricane Katrina victims, somebody who would talk shit about people who have had their whole lives ripped out from under them, and showed incredible courage through a hell most of us will never know, should be really careful about how he uses the word 'ignorant.'

    4. Re:News at 11... by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Insightful
      > Why do you expect me (a hypothetical customer) to read your manual? I'll look at it when I install your program and again when I need to troubleshoot it, but I just don't have the time to sit there and read it cover-to-cover no matter how much I'll learn from it. I'm too damn busy doing my own work. If I'm forced to read the manual to learn something about how your program functions, that means your interface designer needs to be fired.

      Why do you expect me (a hypothetical pilot in training) to read your owner's manual? I'll look at it when I can't figure out how to start the engine and again when the engine stalls at 5000 feet, but I just don't have the time to sit there and read it cover-to-cover no matter how much I'll learn from it. I'm too damn busy doing my own work. If I'm forced to read the manual to learn something about how your aircraft functions, that means your aircraft engineer needs to be fired.

      If you've never flown a plane before, and you get hired as a commercial pilot, "your own work" is flying a plane. Sorry, but that involves knowing lots of unnecessary crap like what an engine is, what RPMs mean, why oil pressure is important, and so on.

      If you're an office worker who's never emailed someone before, and your co-workers use email to communicate with each other, learning what "email" is (bits, bytes, file sizes, file formats, base64/MIME, addresses, domain names, bounce messages, headers, and where messages are stored on the server and client side... is part of your job.

      The intuitiveness of the UI is orthogonal to the real problem -- the less the end user reads, the more likely it the end user is going to lack the theoretical foundations that are essential to "doing their own work" in a way that doesn't result in spectacular failure.

      Whether that failure is 500 copies of a 24-megabyte .BMP file sitting on a mail server ("well, I just had to click 'send to everyone' when I saw that cute picture of that kitten!") or a smoking crater ("My job is to fly the plane, I don't put gas in it, and besides, it's not my fault that some stupid mountain was sitting under those fluffy white clouds!"), the root cause is the same.

  5. Why should they care? by kevin_conaway · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some people don't need to know what javascript is. They just want to use their computer to type documents and read email. I'd say a good portion of business users need their computers for just that.

    As far as sending huge files goes, they still don't need to know the differences between file sizes. People shouldn't be sending large documents through email anyway. A few megs at the MAX. Public drives or a webserver for anything else and the users should be educated on that.

    1. Re:Why should they care? by fossa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the real world, it's easy to tell if something should be mailed or not. Pick it up. Is it a brick or is it a few sheets of paper? In a computer, it's very difficult. Click "view details" on your file manager. Compare that number with what you know about hard drive sizes, network speeds, etc. Computers need a different way to indicate file size than an often obscured number. For text files, it's not too hard. Maybe show a thicker icon that looks like a stack of pages. One sheet == small. Many sheets == big, might want to FedEx that one -- I mean not email it. With images and other file types, it's not so easy. More creative minds than mine can surely come up with something though. Maybe it needn't be a real space analogy like the stack of pages.

      That still leaves one problem. File size per se doesn't matter; it's relative file size. But relative to what? Ten years ago, you might not want to email 1 meg attachments. Now it's not such a big deal (excepting dialup). How does an interface like above reflect this and answer the question: is this ok to email? Or at a different level, what are we trying to indicate by "file size"? How much disk space it needs? How long it will take to download? How long it will take to read? All of these are intuitively known for real space objects due to lifetimes of experience. The fact that every computer file has an icon the same size as every other icon isn't helping people build up experience in computer space.

      I'm sure that some people don't need to decide whether to use the postal service or, say, FedEx. The shipping department decides for them. So, what is this person's goal when emailing a large attachment? "I want these other people to see this document. Computer, make it so." Could the computer not make a decision whether to email this as an attachment or for example, upload it somewhere and email a link? Sure that opens up a bunch of problems, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. And there are probably better ways to implement such a thing, but the idea is there.

  6. Abort mission, they have the port! by Namronorman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Has anyone else had a friend that works in an office enviroment that is extremely paranoid call you up screaming that the hackers have their port?

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    1. Re:Abort mission, they have the port! by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had someone get woried because they saw a vibrating banner ad that said "WARNING - Your computer is broadcasting its IP address!" My kingdom for a bottle of valium, please.

    2. Re:Abort mission, they have the port! by justforaday · · Score: 2, Funny

      I got one of those too. Thankfully the software that they sold me fixed that problem.

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    3. Re:Abort mission, they have the port! by Mike+Keester · · Score: 2, Funny

      All your ports are belong to us!

  7. WTF? by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A massive 61% don't understand the difference between gigabytes, kilobytes and megabytes and as a result have sent e-mails with huge attachments that have blocked clients' systems.

    And a massive 99% of people don't need to understand that. Mail servers should be designed to ignore e-mails of a larger size than they can handle. It's not up to the users to understand KB, MB, GB, mail server loads, HTTP, FTP, SMTP, SSH, whatever.

    Their understand lies in doing their jobs effectively, whatever that may be. When my doctor refers to medical jargon I may not know what it means and may be confused (I'm generally well versed in my particular conditions) so do you really expect them to understand what the jargon in your field is?

    Blah.

    1. Re:WTF? by merreborn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When my doctor refers to medical jargon I may not know what it means and may be confused... so do you really expect them to understand what the jargon in your field is?

      I'm not a mechanic -- hell, I don't even change my own oil -- but I understand "spark plug", "alternator", "transmission", "brake pad", "muffler"...

      I'm not a doctor, but I understand "catheter", "seratonin reuptake inhibitor", "priapism", "cyst", "tumor", "intestinal tract"...

      So why the fuck can't these people understand that 1,000,000 KB = 1,000 MB = 1 GB, and that it takes about a minute to download 20 MB? I don't mind that they can't write a shell script, set up keys for SSH, configure a firewall, or understand that MSIE is not "the internet". But for fucks sake, you know how much a galon of gas is, you know how much a quart of oil is, how much 10mg of prozac is... How hard is it to understand one more unit of measurement?

    2. Re:WTF? by eMartin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "And a massive 99% of people don't need to understand that. Mail servers should be designed to ignore e-mails of a larger size than they can handle. It's not up to the users to understand KB, MB, GB, mail server loads, HTTP, FTP, SMTP, SSH, whatever."

      I don't get this.

      You suggest blocking emails past a certain size, but you don't think people need to understand those sizes?

      How are they supposed to know whether what they are trying to send is too big or not?

    3. Re:WTF? by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Having a mail server simply ignore messages greater than a certain size will no doubt cause just as many problems as it will solve. Now the user will wonder, "Why the hell didn't my email get sent?" and chances are they'll hassle their IT guy or administrator about being unable to sent their mail. Either way, it will be their lack of very basic knowledge that is causing the problems. And until they acquire such knowledge, perhaps the best thing to do is for them to not use such systems at all.

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    4. Re:WTF? by FauxPasIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > When my doctor refers to medical jargon I may not know what it means and may be confused
      > (I'm generally well versed in my particular conditions)

      If your doctor regularly says things you don't understand, and you don't bother to ask/learn,
      some day you might die as a result. I would have died in July of 1996 if I hadn't been
      curious at that the acronym "TBI" stood for. I was slated for spot radiation to complement
      my high-dose cytoxan chemotherapy. If I had gotten the total body irradiation that was
      written on my order, I would not have survived.

      Jargon is fucking important. People should take the time to understand it.

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    5. Re:WTF? by Delphiki · · Score: 2, Informative
      I find it amusing that you're preaching about people not knowing what terms mean, and then saying

      1,000,000 KB = 1,000 MB = 1 GB

      1GB = 1024 MB = 1048576 KB! Apparently one more unit of measurement isn't that easy.

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    6. Re:WTF? by merreborn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I find it amusing that you're preaching about people not knowing what terms mean, and then saying 1,000,000 KB = 1,000 MB = 1 GB 1GB = 1024 MB = 1048576 KB! Apparently one more unit of measurement isn't that easy.

      In raw orders of magnitude, 1 million : 1 thousand : 1 is sufficiently close to correct.

      Also: I'm a hard drive manufacturer. Bob Maxtor's the name.

  8. Have fun with it! by MudButt · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is why I like to throw in the term "flux capacitor" every once in a while when I'm explaining stuff to end users...

    1. Re:Have fun with it! by stlhawkeye · · Score: 5, Funny

      I do that, too. When there's too much technobabble jargon being bandied about in meetings, I said, "Do we have the 1.21 jigga watts for the flux capacitor?" At least one person always thinks I'm serious. I also frequently suggest that we solve any given problem by degaussing the main deflector dish or reversing the flow control to the plasma relay conduits.

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      "I have never won a debate with an ignorant person." -Ali ibn Abi Talib
  9. Education by Apreche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Proper computing education should be mandatory for high school graduation and equivalent. Not knowing this kind of information in today's world is the equivalent of being illiterate. You wouldn't hire an illiterate person to read books all day. So don't hire a computer illiterate person to sit at a computer all day.

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  10. In related news by SlayerofGods · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your average office worker is lazy and doesn't want to learn what those terms mean.
    The terms aren't the problem; it's the fact that your average cubical dweller simply doesn't want to learn them.
    I've personally explained how to fix a the same problem several times to the same person, yet they keep asking me how to fix it every time it comes up. If they'd simply listen the first time and learn how to do it rather then noding the whole time maybe they'd be able to help themselves once and a while.

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    Technology, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.
  11. Well by Ikn · · Score: 5, Funny

    They don't seem to understand basic instructions, either. "Don't open any suspicious attachments, especially from someone you don't know." == "Open anything! It's fun! Oooh, pretty smileys!"

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    I know nothing
  12. Jpeg png, javascript T-1 by Rinzai · · Score: 5, Funny
    GIF USB IT, Java Ethernet Perl. PHP? Jpeg bandwidth kilobyte, iPod Bluetooth nano buffer kilobyte!

    Visio, visio--powerpoint PCX GIMP tar c++ RAM. Outlook? Gigahertz!

    1. Re:Jpeg png, javascript T-1 by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Jpeg bandwidth kilobyte, iPod Bluetooth nano buffer kilobyte!

      You bastard, my mother is a saint!

  13. Re:Simple solution by Pichu0102 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, a more appropriate decision would be to train those that are tech-clueless and help them learn more things about technology. Firing employees because they don't know something they never learned seems a bit harsh, especially since most of those employees could become quick learners at technology.

  14. Re:Simple solution by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Empower IT with HR's traditional roles of hiring, promotion, and termination.

    And you wonder why people hate IT departments.

    Listen, this "holier than thou" attitude is just stupid. Do you know how to diversify a portfolio to meet acceptable risk according to an efficient frontier formula? Well, some of those "idiot users" do. Does that make them smarter than you? If so, should they have veto power on how you run the network?

    IT people are not necessarily smarter, despite what they may think. The goal is to work together in a company, and find solutions that take into account problems that employees may have. Which also means that locking everyone's computer so they can't do anything may not be the correct solution. Maybe, just maybe, users occassionly have a need that you're going to have to work extra to fullfill. That's why you were hired, not so you can sit on your duff and complain about all the work that users make for you.

  15. My Secretary by OctoberSky · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My secretary just came in and said "my email is broken" Well rather than ask her what the problem is I just went out to see. Seems what one of her stupid Cursor/screensaver/spyware/smiley things locked up and borked the system. I just hit Ctrl+Alt+Delete and ended Outlook, Dog thing (not sure, don't ask) and another unnecessary program. It gave me no real problems and I walked away. She asked what I did, I just say "I am not sure". See the problem is not that they don't get it. The problem is that we try and explain it to people who won't get it. She's 60 and never going to know the difference between 1 GB of Ram and 1.21 Gigawatts. Trying to explain it to her only wastes both our time.

  16. That is normal ... sort of by kbahey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, this is normal.

    Every field has its jargon that is virtually undecipherable for outsiders.

    Think about medicine for example, and the names of medical conditions.

    Or think about botany, or construction engineering.

    Where the problem lies is that unlike the above fields, computers have become pervasive, and embedded everywhere.

    If computers have remained in mainframe rooms with an army of programmers and operators, this would never have been an issue. It became an issue after the PC was invented and made it to every office and every home...

    Live with it ...

  17. jargon too difficult? by justforaday · · Score: 2, Informative

    My boss has been using computers since the early 80s, and was a tech journalist during that time. He still doesn't even understand the simple concept of a zip file. I don't think it's just the jargon that's too difficult. I think it's simply that computers are too difficult for many people. And no, I don't think that dumbing any of it down will ever make it better. I really think it's just that some people out there are too dense to begin to understand anything remotely technical.

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  18. This'll Learn 'EM! by Legendof_Pedro · · Score: 2, Funny

    A massive 61% don't understand the difference between gigabytes, kilobytes and megabytes and as a result have sent e-mails with huge attachments that have blocked clients' systems.'

    Give 'em all 28.8k modems, that'll teach 'em!

  19. don't blame the office worker community by yagu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My experience has been that office workers (non-IT) are not the only ones who are confused by IT jargon.

    From the article:

    • Among office workers 26% aren't sure what a firewall does and therefore have been tempted to turn it off.

      Yeah, well a LOT of IT people don't really know what a firewall does either. I've cringed at some of the definitions of firewalls I've heard peer IT workers give for firewall. And, of those who have an inkling, I would not be surprised at all if 75% of IT workers don't really know how and why firewalls work.

    • A massive 61% don't understand the difference between gigabytes, kilobytes and megabytes...

      I've seen IT people play fast and loose with these terms too. I've been on projects where estimations are off by 1 to 6 magnitudes because some erudite IT person didn't understand the differences. (I got an emergency call one time because an entire project was going to get canceled because a team member had confused baud (bits per second) with Bps (bytes per second, combined with parity bits, essentially a magnitude difference) and had said what we were attempting would kill our network. I walked them through a pencil estimate and put them back on track that night with an estimate of bandwidth within 2%.

    • Around 48% are confused by different kinds of files like Jpegs and PDFs and don't know how they should be used.

      Again, find me an IT team fo which the majority knows this, too. It's amazing how many times jpg's vs. gif's vs. pdf vs. pbm, etc. are selected mostly on the basis of only what the person involved knows.

    • further 23% are not sure whether to upload or download - requiring further conta ct with the IT department for an explanation.

      yeah, good luck getting consistent answers on this one. Again, my experience, IT people can be amazingly clueless about the notion of "direction" and server-side vs. client-side technology.

    • Nearly 75% of people said they spend more than an hour every week simply trying to find out what something means in order to finish a task, according to the survey by recruitment consultants Computer People.

      Yeah, me too! The IT jargon is inconsistent, overloaded, pseudointellectual, and obfuscated. It's a constantly moving target making true currency in technology jargon a royal pain-in-the-ass.

    • And it isn't just the older generation who feel out of the loop - more than one in two (54%) office workers under 30 have made a blunder because of confusion over the meaning of IT jargon.

      This is NOT a surprise. As may be inferred from my previous points, IT "experts" probably reach this level of blundering also.

    The fluid and obfuscated universe of IT jargon has long driven me crazy. And foisting it on the lay community is a crime -- it's fscked enough in the IT universe, who the heck would expect the user community to spend the time and energy to stay current. I would like to think in an industry as driven by rigorous technological underpinnings the language would distill to a more formal, stable, and consistent language. Unfortunately, that's not been my observation.

    Theory(?) The language is less driven by the technology and more by the commercial/business bent, thus pushing all in IT to distinguish themselves with the best and most sophisticated sounding terminology. (Just my theory.)

  20. Metric system by doorbot.com · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A massive 61% don't understand the difference between gigabytes, kilobytes and megabytes and as a result have sent e-mails with huge attachments that have blocked clients' systems.


    This is partially a side effect of not understanding the metric system. Cue Grandpa Simpson's quote about gas milage. While certainly a mail administrator can configure this to avoid overflowing their own system, the end user will still generate a complaint as to why they can't send mail. The real misunderstanding is file size comparisions. For example, if you didn't know how big a "gigabyte" was, you might think one or two gigabytes wasn't very large (as far as emails go).
  21. I know the feeling... by bassgoonist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    PC Load letter? What the %*&# does that mean!?

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    You can tell I'm an aries because of my ram.
  22. Re:Simple solution by Jjeff1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Using a computer is part of any kind of office job, and plenty of other non-office jobs these days. It's along the same lines as using a phone or sorting through a file cabinet or any other common office tool.
    Think of it this way... Worker is given work -> worker does something -> worker produces finished product. That something might include alphabetizing files, or driving their car, or hammering in nails. If the worker couldn't read, couldn't drive a car, or couldn't use a hammer, we'd call them unqualified to do their job. We'd wonder why they were ever hired and when they'll be canned. How is using a computer different?

  23. Math? by alvieboy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A massive 61% don't understand the difference between gigabytes, kilobytes and megabytes


    They would if it was gigadollars, kilodollars and megadollars.

    This is not a jargon issue, this is bad math.

    Alvaro
    1. Re:Math? by isbhod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      tis neither a jargon nor a math issue, it is a "how flipp'n important is this to me" issue. Where one will weigh the benefit one receives form wasting ones time to learn new things. For example, will the 30 seconds it takes for me to learn what a gigabyte, vs kilobyte is be more beneficial to me, or will i better spend those 30 secs. looking at boobies on one of those them thar Interwebs. Me thinks you know the answer. now repeat that but this time replace gigabyte with gigadollars and kilobyte with kilodollars and see if boobie watching wins out again. So it comes down to what people feel is most important for them to know. Much like the guy the posted about people driving cars without knowing what innards do, people do not need to know what the innards do as it is not required for them to perform the action they want to do. But just as not know the innards of your car may leave you with higher repair bills for less scrupulous repair shops, not knowing computer terms will have adverse consequences as well. So the trick is to convince people that learning computer terms is vitally important to them, much more so than looking at boobies. But this is just my opinion, i could be wrong.

  24. Shouldn't they change their name? by jav1231 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If "Computer People" has a staff that doesn't understand these terms, perhaps they should change their name. Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like they're doing piss-poor resume screening.

  25. The other side of the coin by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Me and my office mate back from 4 years, use to play a little game, when we got bored of programming.

    We would try to explain "what we do", in simple lay-man's terms, It was not as easy as we thought it would be. Expecially if you are working on stuff like lax parser, CORBA,.

    There were times when we couldn't even begin to describe what we do, without using some kind of jargon or other. As we got better in the game, we narrowed down what terms we could use and , by the end of 3rd year, we weren't even using the term computer in our description.

    It worked wonders for me, at my next job interview. My would be boss asked to describe my current job (which involved building and distributing a J2EE app using perl scripts ) , to sombody like a stock broker. When I did, he told me that's the best answer he has ever heard from a techie, and I got the Job :-)

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  26. Culture by garver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've flipped jobs more than I'd like to admit, but I usually land in telecom. Despite that these jobs are all in the same specialty and usually java development work, I still spend months trying to understand what's going on in a group meeting. Every worksite has it's own culture (e.g. terms, in jokes, personalities) and much of it has nothing to do with technology.

  27. Re:Simple solution by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not talking about ceding total control of the organization to IT, but allowing IT input into HR decisionmaking. If everyone in the company is my "customer" and I have to make them all happy in order for good "total customer service" to happen, then the head of IT ought to have the capability to hire/fire/promote all of these people. It's only fair.

    Oh. Well then, accounting should also have a say in hiring. (Including tech people.) As should the mail room. Not to mention the cafeteria staff. And let's not forget the janitorial staff! It's very important that people who understand how to properly read the recycling labels are chosen! After all, it's only fair.

    Either train them, get them a "seeing eye dog" IT monkey to follow them everywhere and do things for them, or fire them.

    I agree. Has your department taken proactive action to see that all the employees are properly trained or have the support they need?

    And, yes, I believe I could manage a risk portfolio. If I can figure out how to manage IT security risk, I can figure out how to manage a company's financial risk position. It's not really that different, just apply a the same types of reasoning and information gathering to a different set of scenario parameters and information.

    Oh, good Lord. If that were true, you'd be out making all the money you need, not stuck with "idiot users" in a job you obviously hate. BTW, here are the computations for Modern Portfolio Theory. Knock yourself out. I hope you know where to get the data from and how to adjust the frontier for a variety of inputs, investment styles, tax limitations, bonds, and mutual fund products. (Not that you're likely to know what an investment product is. They're all stocks, right?)

  28. Learning to use your tools by tigheig · · Score: 3, Informative

    So... if the worker is working a 40 hour work week, then they are essentially saying that they are spending 1/40th of their time learning the commonly accepted terminology used on what amounts to being their primary productivity tool. And I can see the term "wasted" being used if they were never going to use the words again, but I would hope that once they've learned the word and its meaning that it will stick for a little while.

    If they were going to be an auto mechanic would they be "wasting" their time learning the terms "torque wrench" or "floor jack", as well as what they mean and how to use them?

    At one point the article says:

    'It's like driving a car - you don't have to be a mechanical engineer to drive and most people will learn something about the mechanics of cars, like what the spark plugs or carburetors do. But with the computer people have not got to the point where they are willing to lift up the bonnet and have a go themselves.'

    The analogy is faulty. They're not being asked to swap out the hard disk, install a new video card, or bump up the RAM, just know the basics of their tool. In a large corporation the computer is the equivalent of a fleet car or other company asset the employee is being allowed to use. If the employee wants to "lift up the bonnet and have a go themselves" they need to buy one with their own dime and learn. I'm sure most desktop support people have had more than enough experience with repairing systems from users who decided to "have a go themselves". To continue the broken analogy, a driver that doesn't know the difference between an accelerator pedal and a break pedal probably shouldn't be driving.

    Nearly 75% of people said they spend more than an hour every week simply trying to find out what something means in order to finish a task, according to the survey by recruitment consultants Computer People.

    I've spent huge amounts of time trying to work my way through labyrinthine HR policies, Employee Manuals, and other detritus of the corporate world. It comes with the territory when you have to deal with something new.

    Excell - this helps to run programs on your PC.

    I feel much better now. Does the author mean Microsoft Excel? If this is what the writer of the article thinks "Excell"does then much of the tone and content of the article itself becomes clearer. And the HR department shoulldn't be hiring people who are this easily confused.

  29. good advice by yEvb0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Managing director of Computer People Adam Fletcher said the best IT professionals will tailor their language to their audience, explaining themselves in layman's terms to ordinary office workers.

    1) good idea. Ignorance of computer terms may be frustrating to those of us who use them fluently, but know-it-alls who overuse jargon (in any field) to appear smarter to novices are just assholes.

    2) is Manging Director of Computer People Adam Fletcher's real job title? Is IT Director jargon? ;)

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  30. The answer is probably meeting the users half-way. by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can see this from both sides. On one hand, it's easy to say "Users need to *learn* the basics. If they're going to just say "I refuse to be bothered to learn what a megabyte is!" - then maybe they need to work elsewhere!" On the other hand, there's a strong argument for setting up a more user-friendly environment that makes a lot of this unnecessary. (EG. I was pleasantly surprised to discover that Apple's Mail application in OS X is smart enough so when you tell it you want to attach an image to your message, it asks you if you'd like it sent "Small, Medium or Large size" and auto-scales to one of 3 reasonable preset sizes suitable for emailing. If this became standard behavior for all popular email clients, most of the problem of clogging mail servers with huge graphics attachments would disappear.)

    Like most things, the answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Educate the users on *some* of the jargon, but try to construct an environment where as many technical details are invisible as possible, so they only need to know a few basic concepts to function in the office.

    The biggest obstacle I see these days is the tendency for smaller or mid-sized businesses to try to cust costs on I.T. - eliminating full-time I.T. support staff, in favor of going with a service contract or a part-time worker. This does prevent the problem of paying someone to sit around and surf the web, etc. while they "wait for something to break". But it also causes such things as the situation mentioned in the article where users could simply "turn off their firewall" or make other harmful system changes. (EG. Can't send out my email!? Hey, maybe it's my network card settings! I remember the support guy at home walking me though that stuff in my "Control Panel" under "Networking" when I called for help with my DSL!. I'll try changing some of these numbers around in here!) Users are given more "administrator-type" system privileges due to the lack of real, full-time I.T. staff, and they begin tinkering with things, knowing it'll be a while before they get help otherwise. Then you've got much worse problems....

  31. Breaking news -- average IQ is 100 by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and half the population have IQ's below that...

  32. Not so easy for you, either. by raygundan · · Score: 4, Informative

    He's actually right, you know. Kilo, Mega, and Giga meant exactly what he said-- powers of 10. We computer-folk have been mis-using them for years to refer to nearby powers of 2, and there are new prefixes we *should* be using to avoid confusion. The "new" prefixes were published by the IEC in 1998.

    for this:

    1GB = 1024 MB = 1048576 KB

    you should be using:

    1GiB = 1024 MiB = 1048576 KiB

    Where the GiB, MiB, and KiB stand for Gibibytes, Mebibytes, and Kibibytes.

    Do I use them? No. They sound funny, and like many programmers I'm cranky and stuck-in-my-ways. But you should be prepared to accept that the standard "power of 10" usage of the SI prefixes mega, giga, and kilo you were taught in college science classes is indeed correct, and that the way we've been using them is an awkward legacy kludge that grafts a second meaning onto a widely-used standard.

    Obligatory link.

  33. WTF is Excell? by razmaspaz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Excell - this helps to run programs on your PC

    What is Excell and what does this mean. I have never heard of it, but aparrently I should have it, because otherwise programs won't run on my PC.

    My favorite comment though was the PDF- a document that can be read on any PC. Oh yeah? Can it be read on the PC that doesn't have a PDF reader on it? Hmm!

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    1. Re:WTF is Excell? by rtaylor · · Score: 3, Funny

      My favorite comment though was the PDF- a document that can be read on any PC. Oh yeah? Can it be read on the PC that doesn't have a PDF reader on it? Hmm!
      Yes, it can often be read on PCs without PDF readers. Strings is your friend.

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  34. My Mother by Arandir · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was going to post about my visit with my mother and the argument we had over computers. Then I saw your post.

    My mother gives people legal advice without being a lawyer: "Save your money, here's a website that will make a durable power of attorney for you that you can print out and sign."

    My mother gives medical advice without being a physician: "Here, take these pills for your cold, they really helped my thyroid problem."

    My mother knows next to nothing about cars, but that doesn't stop her: "My check engine light came on, could you replace my alternator while you're down this weekend?"

    Building codes: "You don't need a building permit, it's just a porch!"

    My mother seems to know everything. Thanks to the wonderful technology of email forwarding, she now knows even more! "Barbara sent me this mail about how to prevent identity theft, so I scraped my signature off of all my credit cards and peeled off those magnetic strips."

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  35. Re:Simple solution by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's my take on this thread.

    First, regarding Modern Portfolio Theory: Most people are very prone towards the "If I don't know how to do it, it can't be hard" mentality. I certainly am.

    Second, I think IT's mission is far different from that of the janitorial staff, the mail room, etc., and that it's makes more sense to give them some measure of control than your mockery would indicate. But I think it would make more sense to just give IT some measure of control over the policies governing computer use within the company, and then treat violations of those policies as seriously as any other violations. This seldom happens, because the people in charge of setting policies don't understand the computer system well enough to understand the sort of hassle that some violations cause.

    For example, the IT department might be allowed to say, "You should be storing your files on the network, not your local hard drive. We will not assist you in recovering data not stored on the network." Given that policy, if the CIO loses his spreadsheet because he insists on keeping things local "so he can access them faster", any complaints and threats of termination should fall on deaf ears.

    Another example: If an otherwise competent person keeps hosing the network by running suspicious executables, that person's manager should be willing to recognize the inconvenience this causes. It shouldn't be up to the IT department to fire the guy; it should be up to the guy's boss to recognize the overall effect the behavior is having on the company, and do whatever it takes (disciplinary action, new IT procedures, etc.) to ensure that the IT people can keep the infrastructure reliable.

    As it stands at many companies, IT people take the blame when the users trash the network, even though the management won't give the IT people the tools or authority needed to keep them from trashing the network. Sometimes, it really is a case of people needing to do X with their computer, even though forbidding X would make administration much easier. IT folks can be insensitive to business needs. But other times it's just a case of management not wanting to be told how they can and cannot use their computers, and figuring administration can't be hard because they don't know how to do it.

    It's tricky to strike a balance between those competing needs.

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  36. Re:TPS Reports? by squidfood · · Score: 2, Funny
    I still don't know what TPS stands for.

    Just another Tango Lima Alpha, that's Whisky Tango Foxtrot.

  37. Changing the oil... by GungaDan · · Score: 2, Funny

    My sister's response when asked how often she had the oil changed in her car: "when it runs out."

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    Eloi are stupid, throw morlocks at them!
  38. People Send Large e-mail Attachments Because... by theManInTheYellowHat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mostly they don't look at how big the file is in the first place. Or realize that it is a big file.

    I had a group of users who had a one page MS Word file that they were using as a template that got broken somehow and it became 12 Megabytes. When they got a complaint from a recipient who was on a modem they asked me to look into it.

    I remade the file and it was 43 kilobytes. Then I showed them the way to figure out how to check the size and spent the next hour explaining about file sizes.

    New cameras are also very much to blame but nothing is more to blame than XP's default way of dealing with big images and just shrinking the image view. They have no idea that the files are huge, and have no desire to learn about re-sizing, compression, file formats.... Mailserver be damned I am going to send this collection of worthless pictures anyway, I just got this cool camera and I am going to use it.

  39. Usability and education are *both* required by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Insightful
    > Whoa. I need to know what base64 is in order to email someone? Bounce messages? Headers? Where messages are stored? That's what email administrators should know in the same way that a passenger on a commercial jet doesn't (and shouldn't) need to know much more than boarding procedures and the fact that a beer costs $5. As an email user, I should simply know how to click "send" and that new mail "appears" in those folder thingies.

    Yes, you should, if you want to make sure that every time you click "send", your new mail really will "appear" in your friend's folder thingie.

    > If I shouldn't send a large attachment (individually or in aggregate) my client software should tell me so, and prevent me from doing it, in the same way that an airline will stop me from bringing on a 3 kiloton suitcase rather than letting it get put on board and crash the plane.

    If you don't know that "weight" is a property of matter under the force of a gravitational field, and why it's important to pilots, you're going to be frustrated when you exceed it.

    Dialogue 1:
    Airline: I'm sorry, we can't take the four of you, at 350 pounds apiece, plus your 200 pounds of luggage, in this Cessna.
    Moron: Do you know who we are? We paid for our tickets. How dare you discriminate against us? You put us and our golfing equipment on that plane or I'll personally sue your airline into the ground!
    Airplane: *crash*

    (Granted, any pilot that lets such passengers board his aircraft deserves to crash with 'em. But the point is that an educated customer isn't going to be a moron, because they're going to be willing to listen to the error message "you weigh too much", and they're going to be capable of understanding it, and they're going to be able to take corrective action, by either taking two flights, by chartering a bigger aircraft, or by leaving some of their luggage behind.)

    Similarly, if you don't know that "size" is a property of "files", and why it's important to sysadmins, you're going to be frustrated when you try to send big ones.

    Dialogue 2:
    Client: I'm sorry, I can't send that attachment to everyone in the company. It's way the hell too big.
    Moron: This software sucks. Hey, sysadmin! I want to use a better mail software, the one you use! We make the sales this company relies on, and you answer to us! Either I get to email this DVD to my golfing buddy right now or your ass is fired!
    Server: *crash*

    Same problem. (And same comments about an admin who lets himself get browbeaten into blowing up his own server :)

    There's a happy medium to be struck - but ultimately, it can't be solved only through clever UI design. Some user education is going to be required.

    Computers have existed in the office for only 20 years, and have changed pretty radically over those 20 years. They're complex devices, and you have to understand at least some of what's going on under the hood to know what's common between a TRS-80, a Sun workstation, and an AMD64 running XP.

    We had the same problem with automobiles in their first 20-30 years. The electrical starter, automatic choke, and the automatic transmission are about the only "new" UI developments for automobiles in the past 50 years. (The difference between EFI and carbureted engines didn't affect the car's UI.)

    Ironically, we're seeing the usability problem more often in automobiles today than we did 20 years ago - it's not about being able to change your own oil, it's about knowing that oil needs to be changed, regardless of whether your engine was designed for oil changes every 3000 miles or 10000 miles. 50000 miles later, having never had an oil change, the car dies, and the user blames the auto manufacturer for the sludged engine.