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In the Shadow of Greatness
1up.com has a piece on the making of Shadow of the Colossus, the sequel to Ico (arguably one of the first innovative titles for the PS2). From the article: "In the works for nearly four years now, Shadow of the Colossus is clearly the result of different thinking. While Western development teams try to one-up each other in terms of how big their guns are, how interactive their environments can be, how urban their attitude is, and how much their X-treme soundtracks rock, Ueda's studio is cutting its game from an entirely different cloth. One look at Shadow and you'll realize that this game carries the DNA of Ico, from its sun-soaked environments to its minimal cast of characters to its austere "level" design. But while the majority of Ico's discovery and puzzle-solving elements were confined within the walls of a finite space (in this instance, a castle), Shadow of the Colossus, shall we say, branches out."
And really out of touch with reality here, from the summary:
While Western development teams try to one-up each other in terms of how big their guns are, how interactive their environments can be, how urban their attitude is, and how much their X-treme soundtracks rock, Ueda's studio is cutting its game from an entirely different cloth.
Um, first of all, there are many western companies making interesting and innovative games. Secondly, there are also Japanese companies that are churning out crap(as well as good games)... That just seems like a pointless slight made to make the submitter feel superior to other people....
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This is one of the few games this year that i am REALLY looking forward to. And after reading this article my anticipation just quadrupled. Heck, thinking about the effects had on the character by slaughtering all of these innocent creatures just for one person is enough to excite me. Also, I found this very interesting in the interview with the director: OPM: Of your contemporaries, no one seems to be designing games remotely similar to yours. Are there any games out there that you particularly enjoy? Katamari Damacy perhaps? FU: Mr. Takahashi, who designed Katamari Damacy, is one of the few friends that I have in the industry. Of course, I enjoyed the sequel, too. My other favorite games from last year include Half-Life 2 and Burnout 3. Recently, I enjoyed God of War.
HOW is that possible? According to Nintendo you need a funky controller for anything to be innovative.
And sadly it still won't sell nearly as well as 90% of the rehashed crap on the market this Xmas. The American game market depresses me. The poor bastards should just sell out and make the hero a but-kicking hero in a cloak who runs around smashing crates for the goodies inside. That's what most people seem to want.
IGN gets pwned in the face, this guy can actually write. "Gossamer, gamine, and gaunt, the Ico experience expanded the notion of what you could expect from a videogame." It's a little purple, but the alliterative phrase is delightful.
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Yes. With all the innovative PC games out on the market, it would have fit right in. [insert sarcastic face here]
with Halo being considered the innovative FPS, when is Halo 2 coming out on PC?
It would be innovative to bring it out for the PC if no company had ever ported a console title to PC before. But they have. So it wouldn't be.
Buy a PS2 if you want to play it so badly.
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You're missing out if you play games exclusively on PCs. And with the crashing prices on consoles (don't forget eBay too), it's just silly not to buy one if you're a broad gaming fan.
For the majority of one-PC people whose machine sits nearby and is connected to an "OK" PC sound system, a "good" gaming experience is actually pretty poor (I'm talking about the A/V quality not the gameplay), although most people happily live with it, until they experience better. Disks and PC fans are intrusive, even when low volume, and the playing posture and environment is usually more suited to office work than relaxing.
Of course, there are exceptions to the above, and my setup in my study has all the computing machinery tucked two rooms away in the computer room upstairs, and the digital sound is routed to a pretty reasonable secondary HiFi sound system with large speakers well mounted on walls and the study well soundproofed with soft but heavy drapes. There is total silence, you can hear a pin fall on the table.
But despite that, my PC gaming in the study is still crap compared to my console gaming in the lounge, which benefits from a high-end home theatre A/V setup and a great environment. The regular PC gaming experience just cannot be compared to this, not even when it's a good one like I have.
So, I understand entirely why their focus is on consoles rather than PCs, given the very mood-oriented nature of Ico and its followup. Ico was sheer mood perfection in addition to its novelty, and in a supportive gaming environment it just took your breath away.
While I play a lot of games on the PC (hence the investment in the great study), anyone who thinks that this is on the same footing as console gaming as an immersive experience just hasn't sampled the possibilities at the high end of the latter. And it remains true at the low end --- for most people, the lounge is a nicer environment than the PC workplace, it's that simple.
And no, you can't place a PC in the lounge environment without destroying that environment, not even if the machinery itself is in a remote room, because the basis of PC gaming is keyboard and mouse. And if you remove those, all you end up with is another console, so the argument is no longer even relevant.
Unless they've gone back on what they said before, this is not a sequel to Ico. Yes it's made by the same devteam. Yes it's done in a similar style. However, this does not make it a sequel.
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Take almost useless character from point A to point B while protecting it (her) from low-level enemies and solving puzzles along the way. Done. I loved Ico, but its genre of gaming has been in video games for a long time - at least since early Final Fantasy - and is present within current-gen games like Metal Gear and Grand Theft Auto. Forms of it have even been in place in games from the Commodore-64 days, like Lemmings. So where is the innovation?
The only innovation I can think of is the invented gibberish language spoken by the characters. But that wasn't really part of the gameplay and the effect of this invented language is no different in effect than using an actual language not spoken by the game player. Other games might have used invented language too. I know FF X did. Ico's contribution to gaming - beyond fun - was in its total, unmatched, artistic beauty. The graphics were solid, but the use of composition, color, tonal depth, contrast, scale, lighting, atmospherics, and such were unique within in-game play.
-- and I'll say Rez was the first innovative game for the Playstation.
And if you didn't play those games, then you've no right to comment. I'm in agreement with the OP; jingoism has no place in this discussion - STFU.
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Nobody but the Xbox n00bs who never played an FPS in their lives before Halo consider it to be innovative in any way, shape or form.
Halo 2 isn't coming out for the PC.
That quote is from TFA.
I went and got Ico and a PS2 last week, I played 5 minutes but it seemed really boring... running up and down stairs in bland rooms, no music, etc. Is this how the game is or does it have a rough start?