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Armed Dolphins Released Into Gulf of Mexico

An anonymous reader writes "The Guardian is reporting on what may be the weirdest Hurricane Katrina story yet. Military trained dolphins may have been released into the wild by the Hurricane's devastation." From the article: "Experts who have studied the U.S. navy's cetacean training exercises claim the 36 mammals could be carrying 'toxic dart' guns. Divers and surfers risk attack, they claim, from a species considered to be among the planet's smartest. The U.S. navy admits it has been training dolphins for military purposes, but has refused to confirm that any are missing. Dolphins have been trained in attack-and-kill missions since the Cold War. The U.S. Atlantic bottlenose dolphins have apparently been taught to shoot terrorists attacking military vessels. Their coastal compound was breached during the storm, sweeping them out to sea. But those who have studied the controversial use of dolphins in the U.S. defence programme claim it is vital they are caught quickly."

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  1. Sound a little fishy to me. by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    What could be the porpoise of arming these creatures?

    Before we starting carping on the ineptitude of our navy, I think we should more carefully exsalmon the situation - they may not be solely at fault. Perhaps Katrina is just a red herring here, and these killer dolphins have been floundering around for months. Maybe some deranged fool let them loose just for the halibut. Whoever is responsible should have their head on a pike.

    1. Re:Sound a little fishy to me. by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd like to point out that the parent should be modded up FUNNY, not INTERESTING

      I think it's pointless to fine tuna moderation like that.

    2. Re:Sound a little fishy to me. by AndrewStephens · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree, this whole story is a load of carp.

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    3. Re:Sound a little fishy to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You insensitive cod!

    4. Re:Sound a little fishy to me. by nwbvt · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Dolphins have been used to help hunt mines. Their sonar abilities end up being better than our electronic hardware. Though if that is what these are, I'm not sure how much of a threat they will then be to human divers.

      If you want a real account of military-trained animals getting out and causing havoc, check this out. One of my old biology profs knew a guy who worked on this.

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    5. Re:Sound a little fishy to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought for a second that this post said ' Dolphins have been used to help hunt mimes'. I'd kinda like to see that...

    6. Re:Sound a little fishy to me. by antic · · Score: 5, Funny


      "Our intelligent designer has never created an animal that we couldn't improve by strapping a bomb to it."

      That's gold!

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    7. Re:Sound a little fishy to me. by the+MaD+HuNGaRIaN · · Score: 5, Funny
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    8. Re:Sound a little fishy to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      All your bass are belong to us!

  2. Easy solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    We just send out the robot sharks to killed the armed dolphins. Then we send out the exploding whales to take out the robot sharks.

    1. Re:Easy solution by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      We just send out the robot sharks to kill the armed dolphins. Then we send out the exploding whales to take out the robot sharks.

      Rumsfield, is that you?

    2. Re:Easy solution by brian.glanz · · Score: 5, Interesting
      "It sounds incredible, but this program is quite well-known in military circles," says Leo Sheridan, an internationally respected accident investigator, to London's The Observer in a relevant article from March, 1998.

      In February 1998, dozens of dead dolphins began washing ashore along the French Mediterranean. According to Jon Henley, a reporter for The Observer, "Most bore an identical, and mysterious wound - a neat, fist-sized hole - on the underside of their necks."

      Marine biologists were baffled but Leo Sheridan proposed the only explanation that has not yet been dismissed. "I am convinced that these were dolphins trained by the US Navy and that something went badly wrong," Sheridan told The Observer.

      Sheridan believes "they were disposed of to conceal the existence of the Americans' military dolphin program." In fact it was 1989 when the U.S. Navy began its classified Cetacean Intelligence Mission. The San Diego-based operation involved fitting dolphins with neck harnesses that pressed small electrodes into their skin.

      The animals were taught to recognize and drown enemy divers. The dolphins could be remotely monitored and controlled via electric signals transmitted through the neck harness. In order to prevent the dolphins and the Navy's technology from falling into the wrong hands, a small explosive charge was planted in the harness on the underside of the animal's neck.

      Sheridan noted that 16 of the dead dolphins displayed the same kind of round puncture wound that is "consistent with a small detonation. "It seems to me no accident that these dolphins first began washing up in the middle of a military crisis when American warships and submarines were en route to the [Persian] Gulf."

      ... it's safe to assume technology and maybe even the Navy are a bit smarter, seven years on. If I were going to remotely eliminate the swimming evidence, assuming I could regain control of it, I would have each dolphin swim to a different location.

      I'd also not kill each with the same mechanism. Some could enjoy the release of a toxin they might have naturally eaten too much of, others an electric shock they might naturally have happened upon. In any event I'd be more inventive than blasting equivalent holes in 16 necks, then tossing on a few dozen other dolphins to cover the ass of a classified program.

      BG

  3. So long.. by brohan · · Score: 5, Funny

    So long and thanks for all the toxic darts..

    1. Re:So long.. by dcapel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Intergalactic News Headline:

      The Pan-dimensional creatures have officially returned to the cosmic spotlight after a reclusion in the backwater planet of Earth, taking the second most intelligent race with them.

      When asked to comment about their unusual extraction method, they issued this statement:

      "We have completed our mission, and so have left Earth. Having found the secret to life, we can now return to the mainstream galaxy, and establish our control over the interdimensional biosphere.

      In our effort to leave, we caused a weather distortion, and as such have taken the dolphin race with us to act as our agents in galactic control."

      When asked to elaborate upon the dolphins, they replied:

      "The dolphins were conducting a case study of the primitive humans and how they used the tools at hand to advance their agenda. They allowed themselves to be retrofitted with primitive weapons by the humans, let themselves be 'trained'. They were on the verge of prooving their thesis that primitive government is overrated, and is doomed by corruption though the lack of intelligence in the upper classes of society when we were forced to extract them. While their thesis remains unprooved, they gained valuable experiance in terrorizing with head-mounted implements. We plan to upgrade them from dart guns to lasers in the near future."

      When the galactic president, Zaphod Beeblebrox, was asked to comment, he refused to say anything but "I for one welcome our head-mounted laser-wielding attack dolphin overlords."

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  4. The dolphins have FLIPPERED out. by The_Spectry · · Score: 5, Funny

    Holy crap flipper just killed my entire family.

    On a serious note I say the answer is to just buy a bunch of six packs of beer, drink em and then toss the can rings into the ocean. TV has told me this will kill all manner of marine life. TV is seldom innacurate.

    1. Re:The dolphins have FLIPPERED out. by insert_username_here · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hi, this site is all about dolphins, REAL DOLPHINS. This site is awesome. My name is Robert and I can't stop thinking about dolphins. These guys are cool; and by cool, I mean totally sweet.

      Facts:
      1. Dolphins are mammals.
      2. Dolphins fight ALL the time.
      3. The purpose of the dolphin is to flip out and kill people.

      Dolphins can kill anyone they want! Dolphins cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this dolphin who was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon the dolphin killed the whole town. My friend Mark said that he saw a dolphin totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.

      And that's what I call REAL Ultimate Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  5. Oooh, I got one... by Audent · · Score: 5, Funny

    In 1972/2005 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court/accidentally released into the wild for a crime they didn't commit/by a hurricane.

    These men/dolphins promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade/maximum security pool to the Los Angeles/Texas underground.

    Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.
    Warning - will work for mackerel.

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    1. Re:Oooh, I got one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Warning - will work for mackerel.

      Squid pro quo, Clarice. Squid pro quo.

  6. Re:Frickin'.... by kflash15 · · Score: 5, Funny

    you forgot... blah blah blah do they run linux?

  7. Movie plot by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This sounds like a plot right out of a B sci-fi action movie; the kind where you go, "nah, that can't happen".

    1. Re:Movie plot by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, I just had a great idea for a B sci-fi movie! It's totally unrelated to what we're discussing here, but it involves killer dolphins and a big hurricane. The tagline: "God made them smart. Man made them killers. Nature set them free!"

    2. Re:Movie plot by operagost · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Because it can't. In order to believe this story, we're to believe that not only has the U.S. military trained dolphins to attack divers, but

      Out of many thousands of miles of U.S. coastline, they picked New Orleans, which is below sea level and prone to flooding;

      They were not smart enough to evacuate these valuable and dangerous animals before the hurricane;

      They didn't bother to remove the weapons from the animals;

      They didn't even think to UNLOAD the weapons. Apparently, these dolphins swim around fully armed, 24-7!

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    3. Re:Movie plot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Genius, we'll cast Jessica Alba and put her in a bikini. In fact, forget the dolphins and the hurricane!

    4. Re:Movie plot by poopdeville · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mammary slits, huh? That sounds hot.

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  8. could be... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Experts who have studied the US navy's cetacean training exercises claim the 36 mammals could be carrying 'toxic dart' guns.

    And every military aircraft that flies 'could be' carrying nuclear weapons.

    But they arent.

    1. Re: could be... by Lexomatic · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Naval Dolphin Trainer 1: Hey, dude?

      Naval Dolphin Trainer 2: Yeah?

      Naval Dolphin Trainer 1: The mother of all hurricanes is about to come down on us.

      Naval Dolphin Trainer 2: So?

      Naval Dolphin Trainer 1: You think we should strap-up our dolphins with a full rack of poison dart guns right about now?

      Naval Dolphin Trainer 2: Hey dude! Good idea! *goes off to the munitions locker*

      Now I know the military can be stupid sometimes, but surely not stupid enough to have their trained killer dolphins armed up during an incoming major hurricane?

      Seriously?

  9. This just in... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    Chaos reigned in the administration today as it received a communication from "Skippy", a Navy-trained bottlenose dolphin who was liberated from his holding tank along with 35 other dolphins when Hurricane Katrina struck.

    In the communication, Skippy confirmed that he and the other dolphins were indeed armed, declared himself and his compatriots "freedom fighters" for an organization called the "Cetacean Liberation Front" or "CTF", and demanded that all other wrongfully imprisoned cetaceans be released immediately, or the group would initiate hostilities against surfers, SCUBA divers, and windsurfers.

    The following is a transcript of this communication:
    EeeeeeeEEE EEEe eree e E eEeeeeee eEee eEEEEE eEee EREEEEEEE EEEEEEEEE EeeeeEEE EE eEEEEE. EEEE E E eeEE eee EE E eEeeEeeee eeE EEEEe EeeE eeE EEEEEEEEEEEE! EEEEE eE e eEEE E EE e eeee eEE eEE eeeee EE EE e EEEEEEEE e EEEEEEEE!!! EEE! EEEE E E EEEEE E E EEEE EE EEEE EEEEE!!!

    At this point, the administration still has issued no official statement concerning this situation.
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  10. They Called Him... by SteevR · · Score: 5, Funny

    Flipper! Flipper!
    He'll Dart you Faster than lightning
    No Dolphin you see
    Has more bloodlust than he

    Thank the Navy! Navy!
    For this stupendous new blunder
    stalking there under...
    under the sea!

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  11. So long.... by VonGuard · · Score: 5, Funny

    and thanks for all the guns.

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  12. Not a big deal by gremlins · · Score: 5, Informative

    I heard about 6 other dolphins from the area that got free and they found all 6 hanging out as close as they could get to their former pen.

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  13. Oh, ok. Right. This is believable. by bazonkers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you trying to tell me that these dolphins are sitting around in their tanks with 'toxic dart' guns attached to them AT ALL TIMES? Do they shoot these darts from their asses? I can believe that maybe there are trained dolphins, and maybe they escaped, but that they can shoot unsuspecting divers with toxic dart guns?
    Please. What a craptastic, misleading headline for Slashdot. I don't comment much here on Slashdot but in the name of all that is holy, who posts this crap?

    At least it's not a dupe, yet.

  14. Meanwhile, somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean.... by daranz · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Conn, sonar! We have an unidentified contact, bearing three-five-niner, range unknown!"
    "What the hell? That sounds really weird... I never heard anything that quiet, but yet surely, there's something th---"
    "DARTS IN THE WATER! Incoming darts!"

    Next day:
    An American Sub Sunk During Routine Exercises
    The DoD still hasn't released any detailes about the incident, although they have confirmed that a Seawolf class submarine took a hit from an unknown weapon during a routince training exercise in the northern part of the Atlantic. It is speculated that the submarine was wrongly identified as a terrorist vessel by a squadron of the Dolphin Anti-Terrorist Task force. The Departament of Defense refused to comment.

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  15. they're not always 'learning' what you think... by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Informative
    The US Atlantic bottlenose dolphins have apparently been taught to shoot terrorists attacking military vessels.

    Huh. How'd they do that?

    I hope they didn't do it in the same way the Russian army taught dogs to drop satchel charges under German tanks. You see, they used Russian tanks to train them. So when they got into battle with the Germans, what did the dogs do when given live, armed satchel charges? Delivered them right under Russian tanks, of course. That plan was rather quickly abandoned.

    The US Army hasn't faired much better; they armed bats with incendiary devices- the plan was that, release from a plane over Japan, they'd find refuged in building overhangs and whanot. They were kept calm by refridgeration. So during one of the trial runs (incidentally, the first trial run with live ammo), some genius decides they need a picture of the bats. It's pitch dark, so the photographer uses a flash. Which not only wakes up the bats, but startles them as well...

    ...and as they say, "hilarity ensued."

  16. Re:Wit and Slashdot by banzaimonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think you keeled it.

  17. As they left... by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somebody heard them say

    "So long and thanks for all the fish"

  18. Information on Marine Mammal Systems by typical · · Score: 5, Informative

    The US Navy refers to its dolphin units as "Marine Mammal Systems", and documents the purpose of each unit. Individual units are trained for mine hunting, force protection, and object recovery.

    Assuming that these dolphins are not part of a separate program, presumably the loose mammals are part of Marine Mammal System Mark VI. Note that the Navy Marine Mammal Program FAQ includes the following item:

    Does the Navy train its dolphins for offensive warfare, including attacks on ships and human swimmers or divers?
    No. The Navy does not now train, nor has it ever trained, its marine mammals to harm or injure humans in any fashion or to carry weapons to destroy ships. A popular movie in 1973 ("The Day of the Dolphin") and a number of charges and claims by animal rights organizations have resulted in theories and sometimes actual beliefs that Navy dolphins are assigned attack missions. This is absolutely false. Since dolphins cannot discern the difference between enemy and friendly vessels, or enemy and friendly divers and swimmers, it would not be wise to give that kind of decision authority to an animal. The animals are trained to detect, locate, and mark all mines or all swimmers in an area of interest or concern, and are not trained to distinguish between what we would refer to as good or bad. That decision is always left to humans.


    I find trace references to the fact that the former anti-swimmer system (the Shallow Water Intruder Detection System) was supplanted by something new involving dolphins. In the old system, a sea lion would swim up to an unknown frogman with an open-jawed clamp attached to a line attached to its nose, ram into the frogman, and then signal the handler -- the frogman would essentially become "handcuffed" to the line, easy to reel in.

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  19. Re:most dangerous by tylernt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yup. "Don't you meddle with old unloaded firearms. They are the most deadly and unerring things that have ever been created by man. You don't have to take any pains at all with them. You don't have to have a rest. You don't have to have any sights on the gun. You don't have to aim, even. No, you just pick out a relative and bang away, and you are sure to get him. A youth who can't hit a cathedral at thirty yards with a Gatling gun in three-quarters of an hour can take up an old empty musket and bag his grandmother every time at a hundred." --Mark Twain

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  20. ...or we could just go to the page in question by HBI · · Score: 5, Informative

    And discover the following:

    Does the Navy train its dolphins for offensive warfare, including attacks on ships and human swimmers or divers?
    No. The Navy does not now train, nor has it ever trained, its marine mammals to harm or injure humans in any fashion or to carry weapons to destroy ships. A popular movie in 1973 ("The Day of the Dolphin") and a number of charges and claims by animal rights organizations have resulted in theories and sometimes actual beliefs that Navy dolphins are assigned attack missions. This is absolutely false. Since dolphins cannot discern the difference between enemy and friendly vessels, or enemy and friendly divers and swimmers, it would not be wise to give that kind of decision authority to an animal. The animals are trained to detect, locate, and mark all mines or all swimmers in an area of interest or concern, and are not trained to distinguish between what we would refer to as good or bad. That decision is always left to humans.

    Does the Navy ask the dolphins and sea lions to do dangerous things?
    The dolphins locate and mark the location of sea mines which are designed to be set off by large ships, not aquatic animals. In the swimmer detection program, dolphins and sea lions move so quickly and with such accuracy that human swimmers in dark or murky waters are located and marked before they know what has happened. Once the marking has been completed, the animals are removed from the area before mines are disarmed or swimmers are apprehended by trained security forces. Marine mammals are actually in more danger from sharks, and wild marine mammals are put in much more danger by people who feed them (which is why it is illegal).

    Why have there been so many rumors about the NMMP over the years?
    Several decades of classification of the program's true missions of mine-hunting and swimmer defense, led to media speculation and animal activist charges of dolphins used as offensive weapons, speculation and charges that could not be countered with facts due to that classification. Additionally, fantasy is often times more interesting than reality. With declassification of the missions of the program in the early 1990s, the Navy has repeatedly and openly discussed those missions, but rumors are not easily forgotten, and there are those who continue to actively promote them.

    In response to charges that the program abused the animals, the presidentially appointed Marine Mammal Commission investigated the program in 1988 and 1990. The Commission reported that the allegations were not only false, but that the Navy's care of its marine mammals was "exemplary."


    Then, of course, we'd realize this guy was a kook, and that Slashdot is recycling stories that Art Bell wouldn't cover. Certainly makes you think twice about the journalistic integrity of the Guardian, though.

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  21. A message from the NRA by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny
    Apparently, these dolphins swim around fully armed, 24-7!

    You know what they say; an armed society is a polite society. Have you heard of a single dolphin-on-dolphin crime using a toxic dartgun that occurred when both dolphin were armed?

    I didn't think so.