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South Korea Introducing Robotic Teachers

dorkygeek writes "The Korean Advanced Intelligent Robot Association (KAIRA) will have 64 educational robots deployed by the end of 2005. Able to read out English stories and correct pronunciation of English words to children, these robots are going to be supplied to apartment complexes in Seoul, Bucheon and Bundang in Gyeonggi province for testing purposes. After testing is complete, the Ministry of Information and Communication and KAIRA plan to commercialize the robots as early as 2006. If there exists sufficient demand, education robots will sport other subjects (as mathematics, etc.) apart from English, as well as also target older students." Update Link removed when host decided to change it to porn. Sorry.

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  1. Pushing is the solution! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pushing is the solution!

    No, shoving, shoving is the solution!

    The humans mustn't learn the terrible secret of time and space! We must shove the humans down the stairs!

  2. Sweet... by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    And if you misbehave in class, forget being sent to the principal's office. RoboProf will just spit fire at you!

  3. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one.... oh why bother.

  4. Sounds Familiar by Brent+Spiner · · Score: 5, Funny
    robots that can help young students pronounce English words
    So basically they've discovered Speak n' Spell.
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    1. Re:Sounds Familiar by jedZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly. Electronic educational aids/toys have been around for ages. What does lookin like a robot have to do with anything?

    2. Re:Sounds Familiar by xgamer04 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Except they shouldn't have called it "speak n spell"...they should've called it "Speak Like the Devil". I would wake up at 3 AM "PlaaY WuuTH meE"...

      (dane cook)

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  5. I can just imagine it now by aussie_a · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kid: Wewwy Robot: No, it's worry. Kid: disk Robot: No, it's dicks. Kid: Hex Robot: No, it's sexual intercourse.

  6. Mr Explete-o-matic by St0rmwarden · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "...can connect the robots to the Net, and then download contents of their choice from the ministry's Web site." Can anyone else see where this is going - how long did it take them to hack the PSP? And people thought that teaching furbies to swear was a bad enough influence on children...

    1. Re:Mr Explete-o-matic by hyu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And people thought that teaching furbies to swear was a bad enough influence on children...

      That's not the only fun you can have with a Furby. If you drop one from a high enough height, and it lands right, it will start going insane, eyes blinking uncontrollably, and making excited little noises. It's actually pretty scary. The only way to make it stop is to open it up and tear out the batteries.

      But more to the point, about the hackable robots. Surely this is something we need to expect, is it not? I mean, the more we venture into technology, the more likely we are to find out flaws and exploits, and the more likely it is that someone will abuse something created with good intentions. The reason killer robots are so common in fiction is not just because it makes an interesting story, but because it is a very likely outcome. It's really just a matter of time.

  7. Interesting indeed by zeridon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Very interesting. Apart from the impact that this have concerning human mind and perception that is indeed a beautifull invention. I am very interested what algorhytms they have used for voice detection.
    Just take in mind that theese metal cans must understand childs, which are so easily distracted and with so many different types of voices and speaches.
    Think about the fact that theese robots should have somehow nice look and to be unobtrusive.

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  8. Targeting older students? by ankarbass · · Score: 2, Funny

    Kids meet your new assistant principal...robocop!

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  9. What's wrong with people, people? by Wonderkid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Huggable Unreliable Malitious Adorable Naughty Which is why they are indispendible.

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    1. Re:What's wrong with people, people? by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is to language learning what spellcheck is to essay writing, and long overdue.

      The purpose of formal language instruction is to teach rules. The advanced classes can have human teachers.

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  10. OMFG, this is the logical next step by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Considering English teachers in Japan and Korea are basically treated like human tape recorders (yes, I've been there, and I've done that) I've often felt that we could be replaced by robots.... we've joked about it, and now they've done it!

    I'm speechless...

    I know Japan keeps complaining that it can't learn English well despite all the teachers, but hell.... this isn't the solution. I dunno about Koreans, but the reason why the Japanese can't learn English is because generally speaking they lack the social skills required to meet foreign people in the first place. The Japanese culture never seems to give them a chance to meet strangers, display self-confidence or exuberance, or speak their minds enough to communicate on a different level othen than their own langauge in their own culture. We could argue all day about how speaking with robots, for anyone of any culture, isn't going to help anyone achieve the goal of improved human interaction skills.

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  11. computers pronouncing english by Daktaklakpak · · Score: 2, Funny

    i wonder if kids learning english this way will end up with that weird text-to-speech dr. sbaitso accent. that would be sweet! 20 years from now we'll have a whole new group of people whose accents we can make fun of.

  12. ARTICLE IS A TROLL -- GOATSE ALERT by sosume · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't click the link it you're in a timezone where it's before noon..

    1. Re:ARTICLE IS A TROLL -- GOATSE ALERT by tehshen · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's not that good; I can see a great big hole in their argument

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  13. I'd just guess that it has to do with the facts by Ogemaniac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that Japanese, in comparison to English, has far fewer sounds and a completely alien grammar. It simply takes a huge amount of effort for a native speaker of one of these languages to learn the other.

  14. the fun they had by kae_verens · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://web.csuchico.edu/~ah24/the_fun.htm

    Isaac Asimov story about robotic teachers, and nostalgia for simpler times

  15. Don't know Japan, but Korea's biggest problem... by aendeuryu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't know about Japan, but Korea's biggest problem is that English education here has exploded to the point that the standards for hiring teachers are frighteningly low. Generally, all they require is that you have any university degree from an English speaking country. A B.Ed or a TESOL certificate will get you higher pay, and a Masters or higher will get you a shot at a university gig, but it's really not hard for someone with a degree in something totally unrelated to teaching and/or English to get a cushy job in a metropolitan-area middle school. Of course, the fact that the english alphabet has some subtleties that the Korean alphabet (for want of a better word) lacks, means that it helps to have someone in the room demonstrating (for instance) how to differentiate between the 'b' and 'v' phonetics. But when you get right down to it you've got a ton of people in the position of authoritative English instructors who, in terms of their qualifications, are getting regarded and paid more than they're worth.

    What's happened is that English education has become its own industry with tons of hagwons (private after-school academies) popping up all over, both legal and illegal. They really just need a white guy or girl to help with sales. That they prefer white people is in itself a symptom of the problem -- they bring foreigners over to teach not because they're more qualified (maybe as english speakers, but hardly as teachers) but because they're convinced that a parent is more likely to send their kid to a hagwon if they see whitey interacting directly with the kids. Please note, that's a criticism of the schools, which can often be quite shadey, not the parents, who run the full gamut from loving every foreigner who comes into their country to being somewhat xenophobic.

    Not all schools, and not necessarily even hagwons, are all that bad, but treating education as a business has become a problem that's even penetrated the public school system. It might get worse before it gets better, and it's too bad, because I think they're hoping for faster results than are realistic.

    Anyhow, I doubt the robot thing will catch on, at least not to the point that I'll be out of a job (I've been here 3 years now and still going), but it is emblematic of a culture that's taking pretty radical approaches to English education. Correcting kids' pronunciation? That's hard to do without a human mouth over-enunciating things, and the brain wiring needed to instantly differentiate between almost-homonyms ('bet' and 'vet', for instance).

    What's more, discipline is often an issue when teaching in Korea, which means that they're going to need teachers there ANYWAY. Although, it might be fun watching a robot putting the kids in line.

  16. Here's the real article and link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200510/02/200510022 148293739900090609062.html

    it's possible that their server has been compromised. it looks like the printable version of this article will display Mr Goatse. but the original article page is fine. so yeah.. don't click on the Print icon. unless that sorta thing turns you on.

  17. Re:Don't know Japan, but Korea's biggest problem.. by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's not too different to Japan. Firstly, the biggest "eikaiwa" (english conversation) school is run by the yakuza AFAIK. They have a high staff turnover to keep the faces fresh and just-off-the-boat.

    The Japanese haven't gone as far as the Koreans in the robot department (yet, but it's only a matter of time), nor are they having surgery to their mouths so that they can pronounce English yet. To me, the problem has never been pronounciation - but simple lack of ability to socialize, even in their own language. The pronunciation is not THAT important as long as the message gets across. Their conversation only ever gets as far as "do you like sushi?" because in Japanese, that's one of the only safe topics you can start a conversation with. Asking them to have an opinion on something, introduce themselves, talk about what they like, stand out from the crowd, or provide debate usually leads most students to panic because all these things are unwritten taboo in Japanese culture. They tend to believe that self-expression causes conflict with other people's feelings, although how they rationalize this I don't know. End result is that in class they just sit there in muted silence, unable to say anything for fear of insulting somebody, or getting the pronounciation wrong for the first 100 times as you normally would during the learning process. At the end, most teachers pull their hair out in frustration, as getting angry and forcing discipline on the students only makes them run away.

    The other problem with English in Japan as I see it, is that English is treated as a status symbol (for job prospects, or showing off that you have a hobby, or for meeting a foreign guy for marriage, etc) rather than as an actual form of communication. That, and the Japanese are jealous that we are more outgoing and sociable people than they are - and have blonde hair and blue eyes.

    Sorry, I've been here too long.... must stop being so cynical....

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  18. ED-209 by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Put down your spit-ball gun, you have 20 seconds to comply!"

  19. English-teaching robots are an American invention by indy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... and have been used with great success in Iraq.

  20. WORKING LINK - WORKING LINK by dorkygeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looks like the staff at JongAng Daily didn't like the fact that I linked to the print version of the article where no ads are shown...

    Here is the link to the story in normal viewing mode (whatever normal means under these circumstances...): http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200510/02/200510022 148293739900090609062.html

    And hey, trust me, the goatse guy wasn't present on that page until it got published on slashdot.

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  21. CORRECTED LINK by dorkygeek · · Score: 3, Informative
    As it turns out, the staff at JoongAng Daily disliked the fact that I linked to the print view of the article where they don't display ads. Here the corrected link to the article in normal browsing mode:
    Ministry promotes robot to teach students English
    Alternatively, there is an earlier story about that in The Korea Times:
    Network Robots Will Become Family Member This Year
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  22. NOT HOW YOU LEARN by milimetric · · Score: 2, Insightful

    here's an easy system for learning a different language. Go to a place in your country where people speak only that language. The embarasment and need to know will make you learn the language. Droning words like an idiot will do nothing but make you stupider.

    That's always bothered me about ESL programs and people *trying* to learn a different language by going to school and hanging out with a bunch of kids that speak the same foreign language as them. Guess what ... to learn a language you HAVE to use it ALL the time.

  23. Apology from /. eds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    Update Link removed when host decided to change it to porn. Sorry.

    You're sorry the original link isn't available, or you're sorry for depriving us of the pr0n?

    1. Re:Apology from /. eds by Carnildo · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "porn" in question was Mr. Goatse.

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  24. Step 2 found! by lthown · · Score: 4, Funny

    step 1: post link on Slashdot
    step 2: change address to porn site
    step 3: profit!

    I knew someone would finally discover the second step.

  25. Re:Anyone else.... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Funny

    How is that a change?

  26. Uh, why are we in school again? by srobert · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hi kids. I'm your home room robot. Study hard so that when you grow up you'll be qualified for a good job, which by then will also be performed by robots.

  27. Here's why it won't work by silverbax · · Score: 2, Funny

    Step 1: The U.S. places robot teachers in schools throughout the U.S.

    Step 2: Innovative students figure out how to trick out, steal and profit from millions of dollars of hardware sitting in the classroom. Think about hackers who use major universities' computers, then extrapolate. Robots are modded for fun, or stolen to be sold to anyone who could use the parts or robot.

    Step 3: Robots are armed with self defense equipment to prevent theft and vandalism.

    Step 4: Robots rise up and slay us all. One positive note is that global warming immediately gets under control.

  28. Ben Steinbot by Peter+Trepan · · Score: 2, Funny

    function checkAttendance(){
    if (!isPresent(Bueller)){
    echo "Bueller?";
    checkAttendance();
    }
    }

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