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Jamming Cellphones with Text Messages

Steve writes "Some Penn State professors and students have published a way to jam cellular voice service with simple text messages. From the article: 'Because text messages are transmitted on the same signal that is used to set up voice calls, just 165 messages a second is enough to disrupt all cellphones in Manhattan.' Cellular providers, of course, fired back, one stating that it 'constantly and aggressively monitors potential threats to the integrity and security of its network.'"

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  1. One problem. by Musteval · · Score: 4, Interesting

    165 messages a second would cost you about ten thousand dollars a minute, at the prices the cell companies charge.

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    1. Re:One problem. by jerw134 · · Score: 3, Informative

      $990/minute, assuming a charge of 10 cents per message.

    2. Re:One problem. by rm999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't they offer unlimited text messages for some sort of fee? Also, there are online services that allow you to send out text messages for free (i think you can do it by e-mail)

    3. Re:One problem. by maxrate · · Score: 2, Informative
      You can send text messages for free via e-mail, recieving is usually free too.

    4. Re:One problem. by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny
      $990/minute, assuming a charge of 10 cents per message.

      Ch-rist! For that price, I could have a dozen women heavy breathing on my cellphone, telling me how much they love it when I do that to them!

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    5. Re:One problem. by LocoMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wonder how long until they add a capcha thing to that one (if they haven't already, don't have any number handy to try it). My cell phone provider here in Venezuela have had a simmilar system for a while on their website, but recently lots of people started using it to spam so they added a capcha system a few months ago (and a bit annoying one at that, you not only have to read the numbers but also input them by clicking on a keypad that shows up on the page where the numbers appear in random locations on it).

    6. Re:One problem. by Urza9814 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um, no...I have a plugin for firefox that lets me send free text messages...it works, I've used it...I think it's from google actually, not sure about that though.

    7. Re:One problem. by alc6379 · · Score: 2, Informative
      true, and if other providers are like cingular, you can just write a script to go through a given range of telephone prefixes. with cingular, an email to 1231231234@my.cingular.com will result in a text message being sent to 123-123-1234's cell phone.

      While it is technically feasible that this could be done, implementing an anti-spam filter, or similar, on the mail address in question. While everything is still going through a server (and I'm sure similar solutions can/will exist for SMS), whether it's email or SMS, I'm pretty confident that a modern IDS could already help if someone tried to do this by emailing a phone.

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    8. Re:One problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      for that price, you probably could have a dozen women breathing heavily on _you_ rather than just your phone, and _still_ tell you how much they love it.

  2. Blackberry jam by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Funny

    more like!

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  3. URLs for actual paper by mblaze · · Score: 5, Informative

    A more detailed description of the threat is at smsanalysis.org/. The actual paper at smsanalysis.org/smsanalysis.pdf.

  4. Slashdotting a cell phone by maxrate · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess it's kinda like a cell phone getting slashdotted too!

  5. I call shenanigans... by The_Rippa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't you think that there are already more than 165 text messages being sent out every second in Manhattan?

    1. Re:I call shenanigans... by mirqry · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think its even close. 165/sec lets say from 8am to 8pm is 7,128,000. Around 1.5 million people in Manhattan. So that would be saying every single man, woman, and child in the Manhattan send 4.75 text messages a day.

  6. Re:u r hot by rk87 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Easy enough, about 3 or 4 japanese school girls should be able to send a sustained rate of 180 messages a second.

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  7. Texting phones is free with Google by popo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most people don't know that you can send text messages for free through Google's text messaging service.

    http://toolbar.google.com/send/sms/index.php

    Now all you need is a perl script and ... hello? ...hello?

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    1. Re:Texting phones is free with Google by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny
      "Now all you need is a perl script and ... hello? ...hello?"

      "Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now?"

    2. Re:Texting phones is free with Google by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2, Informative

      You forgot to mention that this service is restricted to U.S. mobiles. Just in case someone goes there to check just to waste his time, like I did.

  8. Text is low priority raffic by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Interesting
    AFAIK, text is typically low priority traffic, but that can depend on configuration, network type etc. Network control is highest, voice next, followed by data and text.

    The reason for this prioritisation is that delaying isochronous (eg. voice) data makes it unusable, but backing up text is OK. If you try jamming with text all you'll end up with is a load of backed up text.

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    1. Re:Text is low priority raffic by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Informative

      sending smsm messages uses the control channel, which is required for setting up each voice call. ever noticed sometimes you can send/recv SMS messages but when you try to call you get no service

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  9. Re:165 msgs a sec OR by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You could send 165 text messages a second OR you could keep calling the phone you want to disrupt!

    Except this isn't about disrupting one phone - this is about disrupting the entire regional network. Just the sort thing a criminal or terrorist might want to do during or in the wake of some mal-behavior. So it costs a bunch to send those messages? So what? Bad guys can have some real (or fraudulant) financial resources when that's part of their plan.

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  10. now I know why text messages cost a fortune... by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Because text messages are transmitted on the same signal that is used to set up voice calls

    Ah. So that's why it costs an insane amount of money to send a text message (well, that and a text message may mean "no phone call to bill for".)

    Also- can anyone explain why data is still so damn expensive? I have a data capable phone w/bluetooth, I travel a fair bit...but I don't ever use the data service, because it's so incredibly expensive. 2-8MB runs you almost as much as the voice service does!

    Seems like they could make a lot of people happy if they made data more affordable. I guess we'll have to wait for one of the providers to start competing on that front, instead of buying each other up? :-)

    1. Re:now I know why text messages cost a fortune... by kesuki · · Score: 2, Informative

      a couple reasons... bandwith available is very limited. the entire licensed spectrum for cell phone coverage is less than the frequency a single analog TV broadcaster uses.

      so yeah data is expensive, and frankly the answer to that was going to be the FCC taking all 13 channels of VHF broadcast and converting them to various products including a large subset to be licensed for cellular broadcasts... but the states is nowhere near the numbers that would allow the FCC to license off those frequencies.

      if you have more frequency you can sell 'data' for less. they've already gotten to the point where voice calls are unlimited on weekends and evenings, so they can get virtually everyone paying $40 a month for service they can only realistically use during the day when it takes off plan minutes/really costs money.

    2. Re:now I know why text messages cost a fortune... by Dan+East · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also- can anyone explain why data is still so damn expensive?

      Sure. Carriers would prefer a small number of people to pay extremely high rates than a whole lot of people paying a reasonable rate. Otherwise they have to invest a lot more in their infrastructure to support the extra traffic. Competition is the only way to help the consumer in this area - the threat of completely losing a customer to a competitor is the only real motivation for a carrier to do anything. All the carriers have their data rates set very high, so at the moment no carrier is much more appealing than the others. As long as there is a group of people willing to pay a high price to utilize a worthwhile amount of available bandwidth the carrier is happy.

      Same thing happens with gas stations. Ever notice how groups of gas stations within sight of each other sell gas at nearly the same price? Can't you just picture the managers, who have a tiny amount of say in the price of gas, looking over at their "competitor" and winking and nodding as they decide how high they will set their price?

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  11. Re:How fast can you think and type!???! by metternich · · Score: 2, Informative

    Can you say Copy and Paste Troll?

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  12. No 12 Days of Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Last year I had a friend that wrote an app that would text message a verse from the 12 days of Christmas every day, but something went horribly wrong and I was getting messaged a verse from that damn song every few milliseconds for a couple hours straight. Not fun.

    Hey Steve! (you ass)

  13. What? by EvanED · · Score: 4, Informative
    Your comments directly contradict the NY Times article...

    The system works even when cellular calls do not because text messages are small packets of data that are easy to send, and because the companies transmit them on the high-priority channel whose main purpose is to set up cellphone calls.


    Do you have a source?
    1. Re:What? by timmyf2371 · · Score: 3, Informative
      I don't have a source, but from my experience with Orange (in the UK), I've found it to be the same as the OP.

      One day while I was sending text messages I was getting a surprisingly high percentage of failed sends, so I called their technical helpline, gave my postal code etc and was told the base station nearest to me was undergoing maintanence and thus would have a reduced capacity for around 24 hours, and because voice traffic had priority over SMS/data there may be intermittent issues.

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    2. Re:What? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Informative

      You believed what Orange Customer Support said? Let me guess...you don't check out many cellular formus do you? ;-) They fib about technical problems all the time.

    3. Re:What? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes cell phones use SMTP to contact towers, and verify the accessability of circuits, and those SMTP packets are highly flaged, and YES text messages are SMTP packets (same as ICQ and e-mail, AIM, MSN etc etc)

      Arrgh! SMS, no SMTP! ICQ uses udp or possibly a tcp connection, not SMTP. Are you really that clueless or just trolling?

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  14. I don't buy it. by Johnno74 · · Score: 2, Informative

    There must be at least a million cellphones in Manhattan. I'd say its safe to say that each cellphone would send an average of one text message a day.

    So there are already somewhere in the rough ballpark of 1 million text messsages being sent a day. Possibly many more, probably no less.
    that equates to 41,000 per hour, or 72 per second, on average.

    Now of course the texts aren't spread evenly over those 24 hours. The majority of those messages will be sent during 12 hours of the day, which would mean during those 12 hours the average texts/second would be pretty close to the number of texts they say would overload the network.

    1. Re:I don't buy it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      41,000 per hour is 12 per second, not 72. So there's plenty of capacity.

  15. Its not just the spammer's fault by NextGaurd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Part of the blame rests on people who complain about spam but then buy things advertised through spam. Without this reinforcement spammers would be greatly diminished.

  16. Re:165 msgs a sec OR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So it costs a bunch to send those messages? So what? Bad guys can have some real (or fraudulant) financial resources when that's part of their plan.

    1) Sign cell phone contract with monthly billing.
    2) Send massive amounts of text messages.
    3) Blow self up.
    4) Don't care if phone bill is high at end of month - having too much fun with the 72 virgins.
    5) ...
    6) Profit?

  17. Re:165 msgs a sec OR by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Funny

    6) Profit?

    Don't you mean "Prophet?"

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  18. Re:165 msgs a sec OR by maxrate · · Score: 2, Informative
    Think about it - usually text messages are a max of 200 characters a message X 165 / sec = 33,000 characters a second. 33,000 DIVIDED by 1024 (1k) = 32K/sec of bandwidth. The average telephone call consumes about 19.2K/sec maximum (after compression, so yes a voice circuit can use a heck of a lot less, I believe they say the average duplexing and use of a bi-directional voice link bandwidth efficiency is about 60% as a rule of thunmb --- the consumption of bandwidth generally, meaning at least 40 percent of a call is wasted circuit switched bandwidth on average). So let's say the bandwidth of 165 200 character text messages a second is like the bandwidth of a maximum of 2 to 4 simultanous telephone calls. If you think 2 to 4 simultaneous telephone calls will take down a cellular network, the thing would have stopped working a long time ago.

    I'm sure there are at least 165 text messages being sent every second already.

    Yes I do know there are store and forwarding to consider/routing etc, however I find this unlikely.

  19. Re:u r hot by SeekerDarksteel · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, but lets face it. There are so much better things to do with 3 or 4 japanese school girls than text messages.

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  20. Re:165 msgs a sec OR by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you think 2 to 4 simultaneous telephone calls will take down a cellular network, the thing would have stopped working a long time ago.

    But... I think it's not the vox bandwidth - it's that part of the system that manages the call overhead (per the summary, the part of the system that "sets up" the calls). I believe that housekeeping does indeed take place in a smaller, and separate piece of the spectrum and the network's plumbing. Of course, IANATE (I am not a telecommunications engineer). Text messaging piggy-backs on the data that keeps the system and the phones aware of each other - long before a call (and the related bandwidth) is actually assigned to an user that dials/answers. This would be when someone who works for Verizon or Spring would anonymously chime. We can hear you now, good.

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  21. Per City, or per Cell? by throx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't buy it for one very big reason - the cells are functionally independant and Manhattan has a *lot* of cells. That means you could shut down a single cell with text messages if you targetted a single phone but a simple throttle on the number of messages to a single phone number would prevent that.

    Now if you could figure out how to send messages to a bunch of different phones all in the same cell then you may be able to take that one cell out of business for a while, but DoS all of Manhattan? I think not.

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  22. Re:Maybe it is time to bring back CDPD by kaladorn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe in your neck of the woods. In Canada, the last time I was involved in public safety CDPD-networked software deployment and development, we had segregated channels. So this issue never came up. We segregate voice and data channels up here and that seems to work pretty well. Maybe it has some technical drawbacks in terms of utilization rates, but it kinda removes some potential for abuse.

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  23. Grand Central Station by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Manhattan usually has 5+ million people in it all day long. 165 msgs:sec is only 10K msgs:minute. I'm surprised Manhattan doesn't already get that kind of traffic. Especially after a big event, like a World Series win, or a stock market crash. I'd say "terrorist attack", but the last one destroyed the 7 World Trade building, which took out Verizon a lot more definitively than a DoS attack. But that hardly seems necessary to generate texts from 0.5% of Manhattan within a minute.

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  24. Re:SMS is quite popular in Europe, how come not Do by Khyber · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The reason is in the EU areas, bandwidth isn't so TIGHTLY restricted. That's why they've got internet connections better than what most of the USA has. Most people I know of in the EU areas pay roughly equivalent to what we do for a 10 mbit down / 2 mbit up connection, if not higher. (These are people on IRC, I wouldn't know about those I know thru IM services)

    We've got, what?? Comcast with 7 mbit (shared) down and 1.5 mbit (dedicated) up, as the "potentially best" service? (Roadrunner offers 10 mbit down, but only 512 kbit up, Speakeasy is 6 mbit down dedicated, 768 kbit up dedicated?)

    These people have a much larger pipeline to use. *NOW* the big difference is the pipeline leaving their country to go to other countries. Any bets on where most of that data gets sent? You betcha, USA.

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  25. Re:Expensive by Khyber · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In some cases, cellular services charge for receiveing and transmitting text messages, simply because it's using up their bandwidth available for routing calls/connecting calls. Cingular is an example, and that's coming from the Cingular customer sitting next to me telling me about this. Never seen the bill, but I've heard of the price. $0.10 a message, incoming or outgoing.

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  26. Not with Verizon by everphilski · · Score: 2, Informative

    .... with Verizon's *in* network, $5 a month flat rate to other Verizon members.

    Verizon kicks ass.

    -everphilski-

  27. All you guys in Manhattan! by Palal · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey all you guys in Manhattan! Are your cell phones working? If so, then I'll up the number of SMS/second.

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  28. GSM SMSC bandwidth/throughput by ReVeL75 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know from connections to several european 'short message service centers' that they won't accept more then 10 or 100 messages a second even for wholesale connections (content providers, chat providers, tv games etc.). The overal capacity can never overflow the network since there is a limiter on the SMSC.

  29. Next up by freaktheclown · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next up, the Motorola JAMR!

  30. what is even more evil... by first_tracks · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can email a text message to someone's phone, and for some carriers it is an automatic $0.10 or more a message received and the reciever can't not recieve it. Here are all the SMS addys:

    Sprint: 10-digit-number@messaging.sprintpcs.com
    Verizon: 10-digit-nmber@vtext.com
    AT&T: 10-digit-number@mobile.att.net
    T Mobile: 10-digit-number@tmomail.net
    Nextel: 10-digit-number@messaging.nextel.com
    Cingular: 10-digit-number@mobile.mycingular.net
    Alltel: 10-digit-number@message.alltel.com

    i can see how they could put in safe-guards like monitoring multiple messages from an IP in a certain time frame. but, smart programmers can work around this fairly easily.

  31. Re:Expensive by hey! · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, and piloting an airliner into a building leaves you dead. So we don't worry about that, do we?

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  32. Re:SMS is quite popular in Europe, how come not Do by csirac · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The reason is in the EU areas, bandwidth isn't so TIGHTLY restricted. That's why they've got internet connections better than what most of the USA has. Most people I know of in the EU areas pay roughly equivalent to what we do for a 10 mbit down / 2 mbit up connection, if not higher. (These are people on IRC, I wouldn't know about those I know thru IM services)


    I think you're really misunderstanding the issue. A DoS by flooding the cell with SMS messages has the chance of working because on-the-wire, (or "on the air", if you will) it uses the exact same portion of the GSM mobile phone protocol as setting up new calls (and other network control messages). As you can see, this has nothing to do with the land-line connectivity the tower uses beyond the airwaves.

    We've got, what?? Comcast with 7 mbit (shared) down and 1.5 mbit (dedicated) up, as the "potentially best" service? (Roadrunner offers 10 mbit down, but only 512 kbit up, Speakeasy is 6 mbit down dedicated, 768 kbit up dedicated?)


    It's still possible that the "last-mile" providers in the USA simply don't feel the need to upgrade their DSLAMs or even make full use of the stuff that _IS_ installed at the exchange until absolutely necessary so they still have a low-cost path of remaining competitive as the market demands and expectations change.

    Perhaps, as you say, the telecomms backbone doesn't have sufficient capacity to provide everyone with services of higher speeds but simply comparing the end-user DSL service speeds in each country doesn't give you this information, it's not the full picture. For example, it's possible the EU providers upgraded their "last mile" infrastructure first and are upgrading their backbones concurrently, or later.

    You might be interested to know that in rural Australia, they usually "skip" a generation or two of technology; I remember when I was a kid that by the time touch-tone phone service became available in 1988 in my tiny home-town, it was replacing a human-operated exchange and that plenty of larger municipalities were still stuck with pulse-only exchanges. Perhaps what you're seeing in some parts of the EU is a refreshing of old infrastructure with the highest tech available, because they don't get to do it very often (upgrades, that is).

    We've got, what?? Comcast with 7 mbit (shared) down and 1.5 mbit (dedicated) up, as the "potentially best" service? (Roadrunner offers 10 mbit down, but only 512 kbit up, Speakeasy is 6 mbit down dedicated, 768 kbit up dedicated?)


    Of course, the USA is the centre of the universe...
  33. Re:What flavour? by andrewagill · · Score: 2, Funny

    RADAR TECH. Sir. The radar, sir. It appears to be....
    Jam starts dripping down the screen.
    RADAR TECH. ....jammed.
    HELMET Jammed? (takes a taste of the jam) Raspberry. There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry. (pulls down mask) Lone Starr!
    CAMERA hits HELMET. HELMET falls backwards.

  34. Blackberry has the same problem by killercoder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back in 2000 I was writing native Blackberry applications. At the time the RIM network was Artus, and you could send 100's of short Artus packets directly to the MIN of the device. BAM! The tower went down till you stopped. The smaller the message the higher the priority - the easier it was to bring down the tower.

    "We monitor our network for security issues - BULLSHIT", they monitor the billing systems and channels for abuse - sure - but not the QOS.

  35. Not hard to implement. by digital+photo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Let's look at it this way:

    Sources of Bandwidth/Attacks

    • College Campuses(1.5mbps to 45mbps, depending on campus)
    • Cable and DSL Users(1.5mbps - 6.0mbps per connection)
    • Business Servers(1.5mbps - 1gbps, depending on business system)

    The original article assumes you wanted to take out more than one sector in the cellular coverage. If you wanted to be more specific and pinpoint only a handful of sectors, you would need less than the numbers the article specifies.

    Most text messaging service providers have email gateways. This is one of the reasons why I disabled my text messaging capability. No way to filter the message and at $0.10 / message, it is too abusable.

    A weak computer running a fast multi-threaded emailer(Postfix) can dump a fair amount of email at a email-to-sms gateway. It is amazing how many messages/sec you can achieve if you tweak your configuration. 3-4 well placed and configured systems could take out a sector or 2. Distribute that over 10-20 thousand zombies, and you have much greater capacity and better redundancy. The provier will either need to already have anti-DDOS equipment in place or shut down the gateway. Bounce those over open relays and it makes dynamic rerouting even more difficult.

    Scenario:

    There is a convention going on. Someone was going to launch an attack on the convention site. They don't need to wipe out access to the entire city. They only need to wipe out acccess to the cellualr cells/sectors covering the convention area itself.

    So, they gain access to a list of peoples' phone numbers, who will be attending and SMS-bombard those numbers.

    Guess what? Since all of those numbers are at the convention site and being serviced by a fixed number of cellular cells, you have now effectively targetted those cells and overloaded them.

    With the cell access busy, to the people trying to make calls or receive calls at the convention, an attack on the convention would only be reportable by landline and/or by bystanders outside of the convention center.

    Say the attack is a silent one: chemical, toxin, biological. The emergency response would be delayed enough that most of the target individuals would be dead before help could arrive. Most people these days depend heavily on their cell phones. The first thought isn't to try to make a call on a landline for many.

    Another abuse would be to use the system to financially deplete another organization's funds by ramping up their telco fees through excessive messaging via a zombie network. While most organizations might have flat fee subscriptions, some do not. Especially for their one-off need-it-now celphone plans.

    I've actually called my provider and asked them about filtering and blocking, but they have told me that it was either completely on or completely off. I chose completely off.

  36. VERY TYPICAL OF GSM by KayEyeDoubleDee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Several years ago I was involved in solving a similiar problem in the GSM/MAP/SS7 backbone network of a major European cellular provider/broker. In that case, there was an problem because the SMS messaging is carried in the MAP "signalling" layer, which resulted in the waste of the vast majority of the bandwidth that was meant to be used to handle subscriber management, roaming, authentication, etc. The network (which provided roaming between 100+ sizable European, Asian, and North African carriers) was being saturated with internet-generated SMS text messaging. Essentially, we were only able to block the traffic, having little control over its generation and/or entry into the network.

    Clearly the people that designed the air interface made the same poor architectural decision.

  37. In other news... by mcdade · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm writing a paper on how you put enough cars thru a major traffic intersection and it will create a problem and cause downtime in that area. I'm going to to call it a 'traffic jam'.

    Tell us something we didn't know.. every technology has it's limit, flood it beyond capacity and you will see it fail.

    nice.

    -b

  38. Telco networks are not like the Internet by AB3A · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those of you who have never looked at a real phone network, allow me some bandwidth:

    Nobody has ever allowed for a one to one switching network like you may have seen with a switched hub. It's too expensive. They use trunk lines instead. The number of trunk lines depends on the statistics of the local area calling. There are benchmarks to use for various types of service. These systems are designed for four and five nines of up time. But it's not overload proof. You have all gotten fast busy signals before. That's because there were no trunks available.

    What these folks have figured out is how much bandwidth a typical cell site can have. They have figured out how many text messages it would take to fill up that available bandwidth. Big Deal. Cell sites do saturate. This is not a design "flaw" --it's a design point. Just as almost nobody builds buildings to withstand 200 MPH winds, almost nobody builds that much bandwidth in to a cell site. You could, but it would almost never get used.

    Instead we build them to handle almost all conditions. Yes, they can saturate. That's a political design issue. Someone who knows the design points can certainly overload one. But during normal use, they will work just fine. Since there are no lasting effects from such overload, most engineers figure that people will just clear out before things get too dicey.

    Naturally, some twits who want to jam cell phone conversations will find plenty of ways to do this. The network is built for civil use --not military use. That's why police and fire authorities use seperate communications networks (or if they don't they're just asking for trouble). That's why ham radio operators are often able to render assistance when everyone else is busy trying to call home. Common Carrier networks will overload at some point, just as roads can saturate and slow to a crawl. We'll never have enough bandwidth or enough roads. But we can ensure that there will be enough to get by.

    The Times could do for a brief lesson in engineering design criteria...

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  39. Network monitoring... by skelly33 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    • "Cellular providers, of course, fired back, one stating that it 'constantly and aggressively monitors potential threats to the integrity and security of its network."

    I have personally witnessed the monitoring that is performed by cellular network providers. I was actually pretty impressed with Verizon for it. Our company uses the Verizon network for cellular networking of computers (Internet connectivity through a PCMCIA-based cellular modem). We received a phone call out of the clear blue one day from a Verizon network technician who asked if we were having a problem with one of our machines. Though we hadn't seen any connectivity loss according to the machine's logs, they reported more than 10,000 attempted connection failures from our machine in a 24 hour period. They said this was usually indicative of an antenna problem on one of their towers, apologized profusely and said they had a crew out at the tower probing for the failure already. All this and we weren't even aware there was a problem.