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Microsoft to Ship New Malware Protection Utility
LadyDarth writes "Microsoft introduced on Thursday a new program called Client Protection that will help to combat viruses, maiware and spyware in the corporate environment. Paul Bryan, product management director in the enterprise security division at Microsoft, said in an interview with BetaNews Wednesday night that Client Protection's aim is to 'make sure people have fewer security products' to concern themselves with. Responding to concerns that it was stepping on its partners toes, Bryan admitted that Microsoft has 'knowledge and an understanding of the capabilities of the operating system' that its partners may not have. But he said that information would not be hidden."
more Claria shananigans on the way then?
That should be "Microsoft to Ship New Malware, Protection Utility".
Will it clean explorer.exe from my system?
Could just be all a rumor...
Right here :-)
They were supposed to document all api's and make them available. Anyone think he's referring to something else besides hidden api's?
Great, more microsoft software that people can exploit.
(of course, I am making assumptions based on the premise that it will be connected to the 'net for updates)
Am I open minded towards open source, or closed minded towards closed source?
in one sentence he is stating ms knows something about windows that no one else does, in the second he is stating they aren't hiding anything. it can only be one or the other, not both. i'm very inclined to think it's the first. they haven't documented jack shit in order the maintain their strangle hold and put the rest of the industry out of business.
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
Love them or hate them, a Microsoft OS is at best a Rube Goldberg device of an operating system. I think that is one of the reasons why MS OS's slow to a crawl after a period of time, or at least seem to.
Look at the average Windows system that has not had a rebuild in a year or more. More than likely, the system tray at the right stretches halfway across the screen when it is expanded. There's virus protection, a personal firewall, spam protection, etc. etc. etc.
Now we have another protection racket (err, application) from Microsoft to protect us from what is ultimately Microsoft's fault: an operating system that at it's core was designed in such a way that security was an afterthought.
So, we have words of Microsoft's plans to have more protected kernel. Of course, because it is Microsoft, that means you will need to use Microsoft's apps, or their approved vendors, Microsoft approved hardware, etc. etc. Trusted computing? Sure -- Microsoft can trust you to fill their profit stream after you install their secure OS.
Instead, why doesn't Microsoft use the principles of Occam's Razor and not let applications have direct access to the kernel? Why not have an equivilant of chroot that works well? Why, at the core, give so many holes for applications, good or bad, to wreak havoc on your computer?
Gee, sounds like a mind-numbingly simple idea. I guess it has many names, but they all end in "nix." (BSD excepted, but you get the point.)
Client Protection's aim is to 'make sure people have fewer security products'
Sounds like a monopoly practice to me.
And Paul Bryan is right when he suggests that it would be a good idea to "make sure people have fewer security products". And the very best way to do that is to switch to a more secure platform. Then you don't need additional security products to solve the problems that should have been solved during platform design. Sheesh.
Parity: What to do when the weekend comes.
So does that mean it will protect mt PC from Windows Vista?
I have to wonder, if anything Microsoft creates really is just insanely resource dependent because they don't know any other way.
"We defeat spyware by using up all the available memory and denying it resources!"
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Mozilla, opera, firefox, apache, tomcat...etc. Java will be removed and replaced by ActiveX-based emulation.
But wait, there's more! Act fast and for only another $292.99 I'll throw in the bottom part so your bowl will actually hold something! (no warranty is given on "bowlsealer add-in®" product - void where prohibited)
Buy now and I'll throw in the installation free!
"As far as I'm concerned, I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue." ~A. Einstein
Knowledge and Understanding doesn't imply that they've got secret hooks that they're using. Let's face it ... if you build something, you probably know it better than anyone else, including what's good and what's bad ... and where potential problem-spots are. I don't think it's too far fetched to assume that Microsoft is likely to have a better understanding of their software since they created it. It's just the way it is.
... certainly many have, and will continue to do so.
That's not to say that other firms haven't taken steps beyond where Microsoft has traditionally gone in order to sell products to secure Windows
So, given that it is the hacker who is demonized for costing businesses billions and not the shitty programming, Microsoft can actually get away with selling virus protection programs, directing people to partners' sites who sell anti virus ware, or in this case bundling it with their next OS and marketing the software with the edge of having this high security from the evil doers. The whole deal works out great for the chip makers, the programmers, earnings reports, and of course the gross domestic product. This is capitalism at its best my friends. One more thing I gotta say, get your net install iso of debian (i386 arch)here.
Microsoft to ship new Malware Production Utility, codename Vista.
Vista, Microsoft's innovative new Malware Production Utility, allows partners and advertisers to easily create Malware with their "easy to use" software development toolkit and utilities.
Vista is guaranteed to provide you with a lower standard of security, and the slow system response you have come to expect from the Microsoft product line. Microsoft claims Vista will increase your chances of a "sensitive information leak", while providing the end user with a lower Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) than Linux. Microsoft expects Vista will be ready for production, and will begin shipping August 2010.
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you ought to wait and see what they throw at themselves. Yes, they know their internals better than symantec, MacAfee etc etc and yes, they know what those internals will be 4 years from now. But given the way Microsoft has of leaving holes, if not doorways, in what should be functional partitions between operating system kernal, applications, communications stacks, languages, debug/development environments and user privelege management, I would bet ANY solutuion that really worked better than the confederation of antivirus and antispyware I now run would either add complexity to the the user's experience or reduce some of the functionality that was based on execution that could jump through those holes and doors.
Go ahead Microsoft, impress me.
We just have to see their product. [and yes, it I too see it as a way to reduce market share for AV vendors.]
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This is a utility that protects malware from virus scanners and the like.
On one hand, you have an easy to use OS that is prone to malware and spyware when not administered correctly.
On the other hand, you have an OS with a higher learning curve that is less prone to malware and spyware, but that requires the same level of expertise as it does to keep a Windows system free of the garbage that can easily plague a system.
In either case, it is up to the user to be more knowledgable about the product their using. I'm not going to pretend that I don't use Windows, but I can honestly say that in the year and a half since I last formatted, I still have yet to find any spyware, malware, or virii hiding on my system ... my system tray is still as bare bones as it was after installing Windows ... and, my computer still runs just as well and as fast as it did after reformatting. Now, with a CS degree, I consider myself slightly more knowledgable than the average user, but this doesn't negate the fact that it is possible to run Windows without compromising your system. You just have to have a clue as to what you're doing and know better than to visit questionable sites and click 'yes' to every dialog box that pops up and wants to install 'XXX Dialer' on your system.
I don't know if there is an easy solution, other than to make Linux or OSX or another more secure operating system more simple to use - and you can go ahead and tell me that your Grandmother runs Linux and has no problems, but the ordinary computer user is looking for more than a glorified Internet/Email machine.
Could Windows be more secure? Yes. Definitely.
Could Linux be easier to use? Yes, and just as equally so.
I think all this demonstrates is that to MSFT you're not just a customer, you're a revenue stream! And MSFT users just keep taking it. It's amazing.
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