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RIAA Goes After Satellite Radio
nicholasjay writes "The RIAA is at it again. Now they don't like satellite radio. From the article 'The record industry ... believes the recording capability [of satellite radio receivers] is a clear copyright violation and could take revenue away from paid download music services.' This comes on the heels of both Sirius and XM announcing mp3 enabled players and the ability to record music heard on the radio. Also from the article: 'RIAA may seek $1 billion plus in music rights fees for a new contract covering 2007 to 2012 to replace the current $80 million pact that expires in 2006.'"
If the music labels had a problem, shouldn't they have approached it at the front-end?
I'm sick of this suing customers/pointing the evil finger at them after the point of sale. It's fscking stupid.
fast as fast can be. you'll never catch me.
The world can live without buying music from the record industry - can the record industry live without selling their crap? Don't buy.
Looks like the RIAA is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, and it's looking more and more like a train.
Obviously they are trying to keep their distribution model valid (read crappy CDs), but everywhere they turn, they're losing... so... they decide to jack up the price of distrubtion rights so high that they will either force the companies to stop distributing anything other than CDs, or will pay the insane prices for the right, and the RIAA will continue to be fat and rich.
Unfortunetly for them, they will eventually fall with this tactic, and fall hard.
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Programming is like sex... Make one mistake and support it the rest of your life.
Instead of going for the little pups, go for the big dogs. Go sue Energy providers! Yeah! Cause you know, we couldn't pirate music if it weren't for electricity powering computers and other electronic equipment. Yeah, that show them!
If this contract expires in 2006, then I'd say I'm not going to be buying an xm radio system any time soon. Increases like that would either have to be passed on or xm would go tits up.
I can record radio on my Computer, Radio in my car, Boom Box radio etc. Is their goal to encrypt all radio transmissions? Serius and XM radio are pay for subscriptions. WTF?
When are they going to sue my birds for listening to music all day? The birds could start mocking the music exactly!
"Your birds are singing these copywritten songs... We are suing them. They need to appear in court on these days!"
the RIAA is starting to overstep its bounds.
-- Josh
"Whoopie! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but that's a long one for me!" - Pete Conrad
someone should organize a "buy no music day" or perhaps a full week to teach the RIAA that they aren't holding all the cards.
> could take revenue away from paid download music services.
I thought the RIAA didn't like those either?!
So satellite radio might hurt downloadable music, which the RIAA wants to kill, also? Honestly, I hate the RIAA...Satellite radios let you record music? You know what? So do cassette tapes... and they have, for years.
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We're going to have to somehow convince the entire world to stop listening to music for however long it takes to kill these sons of bitches. There's no other completely effective solution.
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What is the difference between taping a song off the radio and creating an Mp3 from radio? Please, someone tell me because I am confused.
I would like someone from the RIAA to address why they need to go this route.
You can buy a CD, copy it, rip it and give it away...is this a violation too? Or can you only give it to someone who already owns it? (doesn't make sense)
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
I have stopped listening to music altogether. I have acquired a new skill of singing. My wife and children have not sued me yet.
Simple as that. No lawsuit needed. No wasted taxpayer money. No more overpriced attorneys.
fast as fast can be. you'll never catch me.
Even if the conflict winds up in court, Crockett said in his report he did not believe such a suit would succeed because fair use laws allow users to record songs for their own use.
They know they don't have a case. They're just trying to drum enough publicity to get some legislation done that would help further their control. It's all about money. If you can't earn it, steal it. But I guess it's not theft if you are a multi-billion dollar company.
Bradley Holt
that someone should organize a "buy no music day" or better yet a "buy no music week" to remind the RIAA that they aren't holding all the cards. of coarse they'd probably blame the drop in record sales on the late peer to peer networks.
But it's highly compressed... I would hardly call it "perfect"
Seems to me that these XM recording devices are rather like having a VCR for your radio. If it's legal for consumers to time-shift their television entertainment by recording it, why shouldn't the same apply to radio?
It's "PLOAF," not "P-LOAF." Ask about it.
One day they will sue themselves... and they will implode.
Hail that day.
The ability to record for private use off `the radio` is an old privilege. Currently we (in Europe?) even pay (!) for the media on which we store those recordings. So the **AA can go away. They have no foot to stand on. $$$ is already paid, eventhough that very same media can be used for non-**AA involved uses. (as your own photo's, Linux downloads, etc)
I think the RIAA has missed the train. If they wanted to stop this, they should have started way back when electronics started including tape recorders with their home stereo equipment.
... a magical little thing called a "Tape Recorder". Or at the very least a "Line Out Jack". I mean, yeah, the quality of XM/Sirius is CD-level so the comparison to taping plain old OTA radio is a bit weak, but it still applies.
I figure eventually the RIAA is going ot end up suing everyone on the planet, including its own members. Such is the insanity of the corporate world...
"You did WHAT to WHO for BEER MONEY?!? Jeez, man - you don't even like beer..."
The record industry ... believes the recording capability [of satellite radio receivers] is a clear copyright violation and could take revenue away from paid download music services.
Point 1: Recording capabilities don't violate copyright, people do.
Point 2: No, they can't have my 15 year old clock/radio with built-in cassette recorder.
Point 3: I'm sure they receive some whopping royalty on the blank cassette media I buy in the five-for-a-buck package.
What makes you think the record industry didn't try to villainize tape when it first came out?
I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
2 business models
The first being the practice of suing based on made up figures claiming lost revenues from technology similar to what's been around for years.
The second would be the business model of essentially spam lawsuits, whereby your business would supeana tons of people naming them as defendants in a lawsuit claiming false copyright violation and hoping they settle out of court.
You could then charge the RIAA and MPAA lisencing fees.
I am Bennett Haselton! I am Bennett Haselton!
I'm VERY much a "fair play", "do the right thing" kind of guy. So I am a bit surprised by the level of searing hatred I am developing for the RIAA. I guess they'd only really be satisfied if all of our listening devices were coin-op (or maybe dollar-op?).
The truth is that most of us have lived ALL of our lived being assaulted by music at every turn. Restaurants, stores, outdoor events, commercials.... We are used to having it everywhere and NOW they think we should pay for it all. In parenting, we are taught (those of us who were taught) that you need shelter your children when they are young, because when they become teenagers, it's impossible to "clamp down" on them if you let them have total freedom before that. Same concept. You can't give it away all our lives and then try to clamp down because you don't like the technology. As wrong as I think it is, the file sharing rebellion is a fairly natural expression in the wake of the new "out of nowhere" RIAA oppression. When all avenues are exhausted, I'm sure you'll have some rebels burning hundreds of copies of CDs and leaving them on street corners just out of resentment.
The RIAA should instead focus on those of us who have been buyers of music all our lives, and start trying to make us VERY happy so we KEEP buying. Messing with XM radio and the iTunes pricing schedule is a good way to make me sympathetic to pirates.
Yeah, I guess I'm funny like that.
Audio Home Recording Act: This 1992 legislation exempts consumers from lawsuits for copyright violations when they record music for private, noncommercial use and eases access to advanced digital audio recording technologies. The law also provides for the payment of modest royalties to music creators and copyright owners, and mandates the inclusion of the Serial Copying Management Systems in all consumer digital audio recorders to limit multi-generational audio copying (i.e., making copies of copies). This legislation will also apply to all future digital recording technologies, so Congress will not be forced to revisit the issue as each new product becomes available.
- They illegally trespass onto people's computers in clear violation of a number of statutes in order to further their bottom lines
- When offered exonerating evidence, they refuse to consider it as this might cut into profits
- They want to sue anyone who has the means to play something that could possibly be copyright (whether to them or not, it doesn't matter)
- They want to prevent things from going into the public domain and thereby enclose the digital commons
- And...for the kicker, they actually produce....nothing. Rather, they front money for other people to do work while getting paybacks that make usurers like the credit card companies look like angels. Artists make like 1% of the net?
If these folks aren't leeches and a detriment to our society, then I don't know what is.Does this mean they are going to go after those music only tv channels that are carried by most major cable/sattelite tv companies as well?
It's only a matter of time before the RIAA implodes. The more they push, the more people are going to be fed up with their scare tactics, extortion, and blatant abuse of those trying to innovate the way music is broadcasted to the world.
The opportunity is widening for a record company to form that gets *good* music together under a banner that benefits primarily the consumer and the artist, without the pimp and whore attitude the RIAA has.
We're all hypocrites. We all have hidden parts, it's the contrast between them that make us more a hypocrite than others
The Supreme Court changed the rules and the RIAA is trying to use it to prop up their broken business model. As Lawrence Lessig observes, the old rule was that a technology was okay if it had "significant non-infringing uses." But, in the Grokster ruling, they ruled that Grokster was illegal because it was the service was "promoting" infringement. The RIAA apparently figures this is their license to go after any technology which does not promote their business model.
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RIAA has in mind the one and only solution:
1. prevent any broadcasting, podcasting and streaming and
2. prevent anything that can record and reproduce the performances they need to sqeeze revenues from.
But I'm not sure this will solve the problem once and forever.
Maybe Computers will never be as intelligent as Humans.
For sure they won't ever become so stupid. [VR-1988]
Don't buy. Right. While you're at it, don't go to any movies that might have RIAA music as part of the soundtrack and don't go to any store that might have a radio playing RIAA music.
LICENSING! That's how the RIAA will out-survive all of us. Even if the entire CD industry collapses, the RIAA will still have licensing rights to all that music. Clearly, the RIAA needs some form of regulation as they are a true monopoly with no real competitors. While we're at it, some clarification on copyright might be in order as well.
The RIAA amazes me because they went from an organization that few but musicians even heard of to one of the most reviled organizations on the planet and... They don't CARE! I guess they don't have to do they?
"...Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam..."
Here's a suggestion for the RIAA - replace all current music distribution channels with the following:
When you wish to listen to music, you proceed to an RIAA sponsored Listening Center that will be located in most major cities. You wait in a convenient line and then purchase a ticket specfiying which music selections you wich to listen to. After a brief detour through a metal detector and s search for recording devices by courteous staff (former mob enforcers), you proceed to an individual soundproof listening chamber. In the chamber, you are permitted to listen to each musical selection one time. Afterwards, you're free to leave provided you sign a legal document stating that you will not hum or sing any of the songs you've just heard.
[Insert pithy quote here]
The RIAA (and the MPAA and the BSA and all those similar organizations) exist for the very purpose they are acting on in these stories.
If we want to rid ourselves of their existance, we should #1 appeal to their members that they are not acting in the 'industry's best interests' and #2 appeal to the government(s) that these organizations exist to do nothing less than to act a singular means by which large entities are made into a single larger entity by which legal muscle is used to bully and intimidate individual consumers into unfair settlements and otherwise abuse the legal system to their own ends.
These abusive organizations should be striken down completely. If individuals need to protect their interests, they should be required to protect them individually just as individuals are required to defend themselves individually.
I wasn't sure it was right when I heard of anti-cartel legislation being used against RIAA copyright-infringement suits but it sounds now like this industry body is becoming the collective negotiator for the formerly competing record industries
time was, they competed for airplay. Now they threaten those playing - and therefore promoting - their music
I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
I've been recording songs off the radio since elementary school, and I was perfectly content to listen to cassette tapes before CDs existed. How is this qualitatively different?
The RIAA is powered by the naivete of musicians. I think this whole thing can only be solved when musical artists start seeing pop music as a hobby and not as a potential career. How many people do you know who make a living purely through their band, anyway? At least if they put their music in the public domain, they'd save themselves the trouble of attempting to play the fixed game of "getting discovered."
Step into a huge movement. Don't Tread In Me.
Just because of quality doesn't remove the clauses for fair use.
I have never seen anything saying if you loose 1/2 the quality it is ok to record copywritten work. Although i have seen it written that it is perfectly ok to record copywritten work for your own entertainment. (Betamax).
So where do you get this whole justification about quality?
Besides, you could always record a record at perfect analog quality.
"the RIAA is starting to overstep its bounds"
the major advances in civilization are processes which all but wreck the societies in which they occur - A.N. White
The only problem is that the "Fair Use" exception to copyright law DOES allow us to have a copy. It is exactly the same as going to the library renting a book with a picture of Mount Fuji and then copying it and putting it on the tack board near your desk. If you were really stringent about fair use you would provide a complete reference to the work. Also it must be completely for personal use... no sharing or selling. It is the same as recording TV with VHS or TiVO. No one is gearing up to sue Comcast because they provide cable service that makes it possible to record digital copies of TV shows.
Apparently you can get sued for singing with the kids
published this week in theregister.co.uk , But it's a very phony war. The MPAA is only too happy to play the cartoon role the techno utopians have created for them, in a narrative dominated by fear, domination and control. Like small children playing a game of ghost, they've succeeded only in frightening the bejesus out of each other.
And this thoroughly dishonest debate - you could call it the artistic versus the autistic - is lopsided to begin with. It's Jack, not Larry, who has Sin City and Mean Streets. But only by taking the long view can you see how irrelevant both of their phony stances really are.
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Later this month, Sirius is coming out with their portable unit, the S50, that will be able to record 3 streams as well as store mp3s for portable listening. I think its a safe bet that the satellite radio recordings will be kept on a separate bank of flash chips that can't be accessed by the USB port or some other kind of proprietary format for the recorded programs.
The RIAA would have a fit if one could simply move the files onto the harddrive in an unencumbered format so easily.
Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
I think the actual term for RIAA's practice is "cashing".
I am not a crackpot.
I heard a catchy song on the radio this morning and now it's stuck in my head!
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Sorry, I'm only a 1336 h4x0r.
"Analog radio is of lesser quality, "
It is not.
Perhaps it is within possibility that if the satellite providers used a significant amount of bandwidth for a channel, and the analog station compressed the hell out of the FM station, then it might be better, but the reality is that good FM (i.e. WGMS out of Washington DC, or lots of other PBS stations) blows away any satellite service.
On the Sirius service, voice channels sound about the same or worse as shortwave broadcasts; the bit rates are so low that it takes you a couple weeks to get used to the sound. The music is okay, but clearly like low-grade FM; things like Saxophones are rendered so poorly on Sirius that you can barely tell that's what they are. Certain stations (i.e. Classical) are obviously given a higher bandwidth.
But stuff like NPR is better via FM because there is a lot less compression.
The advantages satellite has over terrestrial radio is country-wide access and no commercials. Sound quality is average at best.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
No, actually it's not about wanting to drive my neighbors Ferrari or driving my Kia (not free BTW). It's more like, buying said Ferrari (or not free Kia) and being told how to drive it, where to drive it and when to drive it. RIAA is pissed off they can't or don't know how to compete in todays digital world and are looking to exploit every angle they can to prevent themselves from losing business until they can get their head wrapped around this great new digital way of distributing content. It's unfortunate they're wasting so much time fucking over the very people they would hope to target down the road.
I think it's rediculous that they are getting their undies in a bundle over people being given the ability to record music from their satellite based music system. They're argument will be because you can make perfect digital copies over and and over with no degradation but why can't they deal with that when it comes to it? Why punish the good people for what bad people do? Ugg, I'm tired of corporate America.
The direction this is going is certainly not pleasent. I guess ther should be large scale demonstration against these scare tactics. Music is a form of entertainment and it should be like that. If you have to flip through law books merely for listening to a song FUCK THAT MUSIC. I guess we should avoid like cancer any music or music label that is affiliated to these Scumbags.
In my case I heard Western music all my life but when I moved to US I switched to classical music from my own country. The reason, well CD - 5 bucks Cassette -- 2 bucks, here CD - 16-20 bucks and download $1.
So i'm wondering when the beginning of the end will actually begin. RIAA has been pulling stuff like this since they started losing what they deemed their "fair share" of the market, repeatedly looking for excuses to perpetuate their model, as someone stated above. Sometimes they have justification for copywrite infringement. But most of the time they are trying to rewrite information property rights to suit their own needs.
When is it gonna stop working in their favor? When will society/the legal system/RIAA realize that they are gripping the past a little bit too tightly and society tends to follow innovation?
I'm a criminal. i've been running from the law for years, and now i make my final stand! I was young and foolish! i didn't know that when my friend left the country and gave me his CDs i was breaking the law. But now, after years of running, i shall hide no more!
My heinous crime will be made public and I shall face what is coming too me. I can never take back what i did that fateful day! Why oh why did i ever get into music! I knew it would be my downfall, but my young mind was corrupt by the evils of this world!
God have mercy on my soul.
You feel sleepy. Close your eyes. The opinions stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise.
Correct. Ever heard of the broadcast flag? Recording is already being prevented on HDTV...
See: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/14/14402
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I noticed that since Sirius rearranged their programming, the two stations reserved for Howard Stern are grouped with all the low-quality/low-bandwidth entertainment and talk stations. I wonder if Howard Stern is still going to get the higher bandwidth low compression that the music channels have? If not, then I'll have to cancel my Sirius subscription. The only thing that's playing on Howard Stern's channels right now are the farters, and it's hard to tell if it's a higher or lower bandwidth channel.
I'm starting to think these RIAA people aren't very nice.
We now have the RIAA defending and fight for music download services? Funny how the worm turns, it only took them about 10 years to recognize music downloads as "valid".
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
It's not the actual sound quality that's at issue. It's the fact that whatever the satellite broadcasts will make it intact to the receiver, in pretty much perfect digital form.
Analog radio is inherently imperfect because the information is not discrete. A loss of amplitude, or an attenuation, means a change in the content of the signal, and there's no checking mechanism to know that something changed. So what get's played (or recorded) is not exactly what was broadcast.
With digital it takes a change greater than a specific size in order to change the actual information content of the signal. And when that happens there are mechanisms to detect and correct this. So the information that is played (or recorded) is essentially exactly the same as what was broadcast. Certainly with compression, the recording can be rendered into a state that is comparable to what is received via FM radio, but it doesn't have to be. For all intents and purposes, satellite radio is capable of sending out lossless audio data, if they so desired, whereas with FM radio there's not a whole lot that can be done toward that end. The RIAA is thus "protecting" themselves against the potentiality of this kind of distribution.
Furthermore, satellite radio cannot be considered a "public service", as someone else claimed, because you have to pay to hear it. And so it doesn't fall under the same rules as AM/FM radio.
But I'm not siding with the RIAA here, because I'm sure they are asking for something much more than what they really deserve. However, I think they do have a right to request a certain amount of compensation for the satellite stations out there that really are streaming content of a reasonable fidelity. Because in those cases, they are creating a copy of the copyrighted content which is, in practice, "very close" to the original source, in aural effect if not in ones and zeroes. And copying is the exclusive right of the copyright holder; they have the right to allow or disallow. (Hence the term "copyright".)
Since everybody knows that sound waves are transmitted through the air, that means that music can travel through this unsecured medium to be heard by many life forms, some larger than microscopic, which did not monetarily reimburse the music-producing entity. God was quoted as defending air: "All my land-dwelling living creatures need air to breathe! Isn't that 'fair use'?", but the RIAA responds, "He could have come up with creatures who didn't need to breathe."
The music recording industry has painted itself into a corner by going digital. There was formerly a clear difference between an audio presentation (the sound that goes into people's ears) and the recording of that sound. Digitization of the entire industry has completely removed that difference. If a sound is heard, it has been digitized and stored.
The financial structure of the industry as developed in the 20th century depends on a high price paid by the listener to the music industry for each individual recording. This price is roughly one hour of minimum wage earnings
per fifteen minutes of music recording. This price has been stable throughout the 20th century and has been inflation-proof.
In return, the music industry provides a centralized repository of all the musical styles currently of popular interest, a filtering service of the junk and mediocrity, and exposure to the best of new music performances.
It was successful. There was pure capitalism among the various large and small record companies. There was a separation between the new music presenting services (radio and discos) and the record distribution networks.
Talented people could gain exposure to many new styles from many different parts of the globe. They could create important new musical styles and have a marketplace and a financial structure to successfully present them.
Everything changed by going digital and by corporate consolidation. Three companies own and control a vast percentage of the radio stations of the USA. Four or five corporations control about 80-90% of the music industry in the world. Digitization of the music playback machines means that all music presentation comes from recordings. There is no longer any difference between exposed to new music and having a recording of that music. This plays
havoc with the structure of companies that sell recordings and use the proceeds of the sales to finance the filtering, product distribution, and new music exposure services.
The companies want to return to the old business model, but only in the ways that are most profitable to them. They want their customers to continue to buy recordings at the old price, and also pay again for the new music exposure
, junk filtering, and distribution services that used to be incorporated into the recording's price. As Slashdot readers know, they are meeting resistance from their customers.
With lots of money going to technology development of digital encryption of recordings and payoffs to politicians for custom-tailored laws protecting their interests, they will be successful in reconstructing their old business model in the short run. In the long run (ten years or more) they will cut off their supply of new musical influences. All the people who are shut out of consuming music industry product because they can't afford to buy it will develop new musical alternatives that they will deliberately hide from the music industry. The music industry won't be the center of musical culture and development in the way that it is now. The best musicians now all want record contracts and seek out the music company executives. That means that music industry employees have been the most knowledgeable about the best new music. That will end.
But no one will notice because music is basically a young person's industry and the number of young people in the world continues to grow rapidly each year. So the music industry will continue to grow. But the principle that the music industry is the source of the best music available will pass. There will develop many underground secret music societies.
The real question is whether the music industry will take the position that they 'own' the music created by these secret societies. Will they chose to hunt them down, imprison their musicians and steal their ideas, or simply ignore them as being non-commercially viable and therefore unworthy of investment.
There is no difference between recording from source A to medium B, or recording to medium C. Whether the source is a CD or radio, and whether the source is analog or digital is irrelevant. Whether the recording medium is analog or digital is irrelevant.
It is illegal, if you're unauthorizedly making a copy of a copyrighted work. Unless, of course, there is an applicable exception.
Fair use might apply, but it depends on the overall circumstances. You can't really say that anyone recording from the radio for any purpose is doing so fairly. It always depends.
Also, there is the 17 USC 1008 exception, but it does depend on who is doing the recording, why they're doing it, and what devices or media they're using to accomplish it. 1008 would likely protect taping from the radio, but not making an mp3 from the radio. Note that there are important definitions of the terms in 1008 in 101 and 1001, which people often don't read, resulting in misunderstandings of what 1008 actually says.
-- This and all my posts are in the public domain. I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer, and this is not legal advice.
WTF? People have been using their tape decks to record off the radio for years. And then maybe a few more years. And then a few years more. They've recorded top 40 countdowns. Just recorded songs. Recorded tapes full of radio play and then made mixed tapes. Hell...before I even had a ghetto blaster (or boom box depending on where you're from...that's a debate for another time) I took a big clunky tape recorder (kinda like the ones you see in old police movies where they stick the tape recorder in front of the suspect in the interrogation room) in front of the speaker on the TV to record a top 40 countdown. That's right, I got Survivor and "Eye of the Tiger" in all its glory, taped on a crappy old tape recorder sitting next to the TV. And I liked it! We played that tape all around the neighborhood.
The point is this: People have been recording from the radio, from TV, from their friend's records, from their parent's tapes, from their own CDs for about as long as there has been recordable media. The RIAA needs to realize that nothing they do will keep people from recording what they want. What they NEED to do is work on their business model, their distribution model, licensing models, etc and figure out how to make money from the products they sell instead of trying to rape the living crap out of the artists while also gouging the consumer.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts...for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang
The RIAA is slowly going absolutely nuts. Where can I get some of whatever they're tripping on?
I am a Sirius subscriber, and I LOVE it for the most part, aside from the occasional static I get under power lines (the solution to this, apparently, is to install an FM demodulator and directly connect the SAT reciever to the back of the deck, unfortunately I have an eclipse Spyder which has all kinds of weirdness with the stereo, but I digress). For the most part, I've been fortunate in that I was a rave dj (as in warehouse party) growing up, and my tastes haven't changed much over the years. The REASON this is important is that electronica producers have pretty much always released their music on small, mom and pop labels that typically have no ties to big business at all. How is it that the RIAA can try to enforce rules over and over again on behalf of small labels like this who aren't even members of their own organization. I mean, it's become like some kind of mafia protection racket almost. In this case, if the RIAA wins, Sirius will have no choice but to try to get people like me to underwrite this, and its just not going to happen.
I love my satellite, but I will NOT be paying any more for it. Not to mention, what happens to the folks who payed the flat fee for their reciever under the nuance that there would never be a subscription fee? (this may no longer be offered, but at one time you could pay 300$ or so and get a lifetime sub.). Does someone expect them to come back to the table? Which contract is valid there, the one between Sirius and the RIAA or the one between Sirius and their customers?
Just some thoughts - chitlenz
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The RIAA thinks they have a right here because...
The RIAA thinks it owns the patent, copyright, and trademark on all music throughout the universe in perpetuity. They'd sue for the damnation of every harp plucker on the other side of the pearly gates if they could.
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Psst, SCO, I hear the RIAA is running Linux servers to spam P2P music networks, and not paying you license fees.
Psst, RIAA, I hear SCO is licensing Linux servers capable of sharing music files, and not paying you license fees.
Interesting discussion of Intellectual Property & etc. And my sense of the discussion was that the (former jefe of) MPAA's resembled the effect of talking to a Television Set.
I only wish Hunter Thompson had moderated.Verizon: Latin for "poor rural service".
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