Slashdot Mirror


Watch the First 9 Minutes of Serenity

An anonymous reader writes "As reported on FireflyFans.net, Universal is attempting further promotion of the sci-fi action film Serenity by making the first 9 minutes of the movie available online. The clip contains the opening backstory that sets an Alliance assassin on the trail of the ship's crew; it's an effective hook. On Yahoo movies, Serenity is ranked as the number 1 film currently in theaters and is hanging in a top-ten spot in the highest rated movies of all time. Slashdot has previously covered Orson Scott Card's review, the film's opening, an interview with Joss Whedon, and much more. It's all out of love..."

32 of 426 comments (clear)

  1. Aftermath? by Sorthum · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have to wonder, if this works to boost revenue for Serenity, what will the MPAA's response be? It only took them, what, ten years to realize the internet can help them?

    1. Re:Aftermath? by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why would they react any differently than they have been? They've known that the internet is a great advertising medium, and this is just another way of advertising. They're still going to be against the distribution of the whole movie, though.

      I don't see their position changing at all.

  2. The Firefly TV episodes matter more by Nonesuch · · Score: 4, Informative
    I saw Serenity the week it had come out, and if SciFi hadn't just a few weeks back shown the first two episodes of the series again, I don't think I would have understood what happened in the movie.

    The movie depends quite a bit on the overall backstory from the one season of the television show. If you haven't seen the show, it doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense.

    Luckily "Firefly - The Complete Series" is available on DVD.

    1. Re:The Firefly TV episodes matter more by RatBastard · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's odd. I saw Serenity last weekend with friends who had never seen Firefly and they had not trouble keeping up with what was going on. Yes, they lost some of the richness of the story, but they did a fine job of filling in the blanks for most reasonably observant people.

      --
      Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
    2. Re:The Firefly TV episodes matter more by Supurcell · · Score: 5, Informative

      I, and the people I was with, thought Serenity stood well on its own. Going in, I didn't know who the characters were, but on the way out I felt very attached to them. I never felt lost. I assume there were probably some jokes that I didn't get, because I didn't watch Firefly, but the movie was exciting and funny enough on its own.

  3. What the Heck by dduardo · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Unfortunately, the Operating System you are currently using is unsupported."

    1. Re:What the Heck by pymike · · Score: 5, Funny
      It's as if millions of penguins cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

      Me included though :\

    2. Re:What the Heck by simeonbeta2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Aaargh. So they're using a weird plugin (bad) but the plugin is written in Java (good) but the plugin only works on Windows (bad again). Why would you make people download a plugin (and maybe a jre) but then forgo the alleged chief benefit of Java? (Write once, run almost anywhere)... If they wanted windows only with drm, why not just use Windows Media and active-x?

    3. Re:What the Heck by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 3, Insightful
      They say if you run the Pc version of Firefox under Wine it works.

      You probably meant the Windows version of Firefox. You see - I'm using a PC too. It runs Linux. :P
  4. No Linux support for this? by SaidinUnleashed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Evidently it only works for people with the "right operating systems".

    Is it so hard to use a standard media type?

    Why do companies feel like it's right to mave stuff like this that's actually MORE trouble to make incompatible with non-MS/Mac systems?

    Seriously. I just do not get this mindset.

    --
    Shiny. Let's be bad guys.
  5. Statistics, Internet fans and damn statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Come on now, it's obvious to me that Serenity's fans are boosting the review averages all over the place. Nothing wrong about that, but keep that in mind. Best film of all time?? Let's get serious here, it's a good 2 hours of entertainment, nothing earth shattering here.

  6. Good movie, but #10 all time movie? by ObiWonKanblomi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On Yahoo movies, Serenity is ranked as the number 1 film currently in theaters and is hanging in a top-ten spot in the highest rated movies of all time.

    As with the majority of slashdot posters on here, I am a total sci-fi junkie, but does Serenity really qualify to be within the top 10 movies of all time? Granted, this is a yahoo poll and probably was saturated by people so desperate for anything with a futuristic theme they're willing to hump a movie which was written by a guy who make a witch turn lesbian in another show with declining ratings.

    I seriously cannot understand what is so great and original about this movie. Sci-fi meets cowboy theme has already been stretched in 26 episodes (plus a movie) of Cowboy Bebop.

    I don't even see Bladerunner on this Yahoo top 10 of all time list. Dune? Seriously, are you going to tell me Serenity is better than Bladerunner?

    1. Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? by CrystalArchangel · · Score: 4, Funny

      Seriously, are you going to tell me Serenity is better than Bladerunner?

      Yep.

    2. Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? by theantipop · · Score: 3, Insightful
      While I agree with the majority of your comments (which are much more reasonable than both sides of argument I've seen about the movie), I do take issue with your strict definition of entertainment. This is a common theme among Slashdot posters, that you think it takes a seriously spiritual and intellectual script to make a good movie. I don't think this is necessarily true. While it can help a movie to be as ambitious as Bladerunner, it does not mean that another movie which does not preach the same level of values is to be written off so easily. You, and others like you, may seek intellectual persuits in every facet of your life; but some, like myself, enjoy forms of entertainment that don't require deep textual analysis.

      Serenity and Bladerunner are both great movies, but I don't think they reach the same goals as to be ranked on just one scale.

  7. Re:Site doesn't like Linux/Mozilla by The+Fanta+Menace · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the direct link to the video file, although I still don't know of a Linux player that can handle it:

    http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/viv/39 29_Serenity_720.viv
    --
    -- Even if a god did exist, why the fsck should I worship it?
  8. Meanwhile, in Universal HQ... by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Universal Exec : Ok guys, let's do something completely new : We will make the first nine minutes of Serenity available online !
    Henchman : Ok, but how much do we charge them for it ?
    Universal Exec : Nothing, we just let them see the first...
    Henchman : Ok, popups ? Right, popups ?!
    Universal Exec : No, we will just let them see...
    Henchman : I got you : Ads, right ? Banners !
    Universal Exec : No, we will JUST let them see the first nine...
    Henchman : Ok, but we HAVE to annoy them somehow... How about some proprietary plugin instead of going for the normal formats ? Let's screw a littlebit with their minds before they get their free content.
    Universal Exec : Fuckit, it's lunchtime.

  9. Just finished watching by colonslashslash · · Score: 4, Informative
    Serenity at the local cinema with several friends, one, like me, was a fan of the short-lived Firefly series, and the other 3 had never seen it before. Everyone enjoyed the movie, and although obviously it's something that is going to appeal more to fans of the series (mostly because these people are more attached to the characters), it does work as a stand alone movie very well. The brilliantly delivered dry humour, drama and all out action sequences are more than enough to satisfy almost everyone in the audience.

    The only shame I feel about this movie is that it is a gem released during such a mundane (IMHO) year for theatrical releases, so although it stands out from the 2005 crowd, that in itself unfortunately isn't saying much at all. Still, I'd recommend it very highly to those who havn't seen it yet. And if you are even a more moderate fan of the series, then what the hell are you waiting for? Gogogo.

    One thing that did dissapoint me was the lack of the theme tune, unless I missed it, but I didn't hear even a snippet during the whole movie :-(

    --
    She's built like a steak house, but she handles like a bistro....
  10. Re:UNSUPPORTED? by EvilMagnus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because you might steal that free promotional download and show it to other people, that's why! Then how would Universal make money on that free promotional download or the movie that the free promotional download is promoting?

    I mean, come on, it's not that hard! You must tightly control the distribution of free promotional downloads, otherwise filesharers will destroy your company! :)

    --
    -EvilMagnus
  11. Re:Site doesn't like Linux/Mozilla by The+Fanta+Menace · · Score: 3, Informative
    The nice thing about linux is that most distros come with the `file` utility. Just run it on the ".viv"; file /path/to/serenity.viv

    Already tried it; it just says 'data', so file doesn't know about it. I've tried it with a number of players so far (xine, mplayer, realplayer, even Windows Media Player running under Codeweavers' crossover) and none of them can read it.

    My guess is that it's an mpeg wrapped up in some sort of drm that requires their encryption key to play it.

    --
    -- Even if a god did exist, why the fsck should I worship it?
  12. Special 16 year old girls by AutumnLeaf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Am I the only one distrubed by JW's obsession with them?

    I haven't really seen this discussed anywhere. On the other hand, I haven't looked very hard.

    Just curious.

    1. Re:Special 16 year old girls by bytor4232 · · Score: 3, Informative
      His "obsession" as you call it comes from his origional inspiration for Firefly and the Buffyverse: the Uncanny X-Men. His favorite comic book character is a character named Shadowcat, who is young, troubled, etc. Buffy is pretty much a duplicate of Shadowcat, as is River and Kaylee in a much lesser degree. If you enjoy Wheldon's work, check out Astonishing X-Men which has been running for about 2 years now.

      Wheldon is a master story teller, and I am really enjoying his work. I saw Firefly last weekend and immediatly went on a hard target search for Firefly this weekend. Watched the entire series, and am blown away. I never know TV could be this good. Too good to continue I guess :(

      --
      -- 4 8 15 16 23 42
    2. Re:Special 16 year old girls by lawpoop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not really. I think about 16 years old is normally an acceptable age of a woman for a man to be attracted to. Remeber, about 100 years ago, most kids were getting married around age 15. Dying at 30 moves things along little faster.

      Anyway, as long as the woman is physically mature, I don't think the guy is a pedophile, and the obsession doesn't seem harmful to society -- as long as he can wait two years.

      --
      Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
      -- Pablo Picasso
  13. Re:Originality is a horrible comparison by technoextreme · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I seriously cannot understand what is so great and original about this movie. Sci-fi meets cowboy theme has already been stretched in 26 episodes (plus a movie) of Cowboy Bebop.
    Orgiinaility is a horrible way to compare the greatness of works. I think it was Orson Scott Card that wrote if you worry about duplicating a specific story you will never get anything done. Ironically, after searching throuwh wikipedia for Flash Gordon I noticed that George Lucas used that as his inspiration for Star Wars. Remember it's the quality of the story that matters the most.
    --
    Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
  14. Re:Site doesn't like Linux/Mozilla by Dlugar · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's the direct link to the video file, although I still don't know of a Linux player that can handle it
    I've done some digging around and unfortunately it looks like:

    1) The .viv file is some sort of propriety format
    2) There's a Java archive (jar) on the page that is automatically selected for Windows or OS X that has a file extension of .jpeg[1]
    3) Inside the Java archive is a Java applet, PlayerApplet.class, that apparently does nothing but act as a proxy for another file inside the class, a DLL file in the Windows version, probably something similar in the Linux version

    Looks like we're out of luck.

    Dlugar

    [1] There are actually four files which you can find here:
    http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/pl ayer/vivid_ocx.jpeg
    http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/pl ayer/vivid_jni_ms.jpeg
    http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/pl ayer/vivid_jni_osx.jpeg
    http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/pl ayer/vivid_jni_sun.jpeg

    They're each JAR files (which are basically just zip files) so the more enterprising can download them and figure out exactly what they do.
    --
    Computer Go: Writing Software to Play the Ancient Game of Go
  15. Re:STOP FREE ADVERTISING by Skye16 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not all nerds want to hear about MS, Linux, New Case Mods, Ham Radio Operators, New Space Probes, Creating Life Out of Amino Acids, Monkeys Learning How To Fly, Reconstructing the 1918 Influenza, etc, etc. But a lot do, or would, if it were to happen. Guess what? Slashdot tries to cater to them all, at least to some extent. Is every single nerd going to be thrilled with every single story? No. Oh well. Are there going to be a slew of nerds out there getting pissed because they're hearing too much about any of the above, including Serenity? Yes. But guess what? Bitching about it won't change a fucking thing. I'm not sure what to tell you if you really don't like it other than a: do it yourself, b: go somewhere else; or c: create a firefox plugin to strip out stories that contain whatever-words-you-don't-want-to-hear-about.

    I'm not saying you can't bitch, I'm just saying you're wasting your time, and unless you get some sort of thrill out of playing the down-modded martyr, in the end, it's not going to be worth it.

    But, hey, do what you want.

  16. Correction - United Int'l Pictures, not Universal by LoadStar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Correction to the submission: this is being released by United International Pictures, the company responsible for international release of Serenity. Since UIP is partially owned by Universal, it might be seen as semantics, but UIP has a distinct marketing plan for the movie from that of Universal.

    It's also important to note, because it might seem like odd timing for Universal to release new marketing materials for a movie already released - it might even seem a move of desperation to get "butts in seats" before it leaves theaters... but it makes more sense as new marketing released by UIP for a movie they are opening today or within the next few weeks.

  17. Stupid: Target audience, and I can't play this. by radarsat1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay.
    I'm one of those people who reads slashdot regularly, runs linux on his computer, and has NOT watched the show Firefly and did NOT go see the movie the week it opened.
    However, I do love sci-fi, I just never took the opportunity to get hooked on this show. (I have enough vices already!)

    In any case, look: Advertising, after a movie has been released, is to encourage those who have not seen the movie or may not have been following it so closely but who _might_ be interested, to fork out the $10 and go check it out. I admit, the trailer was sort of interesting but nothing that really grabbed my attention. Mostly it's the hype I've read on this website that has kept me interested, and is what is making me want to go see it. I have no idea about the Firefly story, but since everyone seems to think it's so amazing I might be pursuaded to go see it, especially with a little enticement like showing me the first few minutes of the movie.

    Now. I run linux. So I can't watch this "teaser". Let me repeat: I AM PRECISELY THE TARGET AUDIENCE for this advertisement, and yet the message I get when I actually make the effort of clicking on the link and going to the website to check it out is: You can't watch this, your operating system is not supported. This is not something that happens by accident. They are ACTIVELY dissuading linux users from watching the teaser. I had to click "view source" just to find the file, and I'm downloading it, but I realize it's very unlikely I'll be able to watch it. They are publishing in some stupid non-standard format. And for what reason? I can't think of a single one. They are giving it away for FREE, why would they be worried about copyright? At the VERY least, if you don't want to get into weird IP battles by using "frowned upon" formats like DivX (though I don't see the problem with OSS formats like Xvid), publish it in straight MPEG, even if it's low resolution, but my goodness, don't DENY your target audience the ability to watch it.

    Whoever is in charge of marketing has no clue.
    As it is, I still don't know if I'll bother going to see it, especially considering how expensive the theaters are these days and how little time I have.
    If only I could watch the teaser...

    It finished downloading by the time I typed this out. And look, mplayer and VLC are both out of luck.

    1. Re:Stupid: Target audience, and I can't play this. by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is not something that happens by accident. They are ACTIVELY dissuading linux users from watching the teaser.

      Whoever is in charge of marketing has no clue.

      Which one is it: a carefully designed conspiracy against Linux users, or the end result of a naive marketing department that doesn't understand that a large chunk of their target audience uses something other then Windows?

      If I had to make a bet, I'd put my money on the latter. I highly doubt there's someone sitting around saying 'Yarr! Let's get those Linux users! That'll teach 'em for being different!". I'd guess the company providing the streaming video brought the claim of 'being able to provide high-quality on-demand streaming video to broadband Internet users using a unique process which makes unauthorized duplication near impossible' to the marketing department for the film. The 'Vividas' company most likely neglected the fact that they wouldn't be able to reliably accommodate users of alternative OSes, and it never occurred to the folks marketing the film to ask.

      --
      The Internet is generally stupid
  18. I wish I had mod points to correct this... by 787style · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How is parent flamebait? It's the persons opinion. Has slashdot become the republican party, where we must supress views we don't agree with?

  19. Re:The beginning is good by Catbeller · · Score: 4, Informative

    Whedon simply didn't get the difference between a solar system, a group of stars with solar systems, and a galaxy. He may have been straightened out later.

    I was butting my head on this for a while: after all, if the new solar system was colonized by Earth, then - bloody hell! - they had interstellar drives. For hundreds of millons of passengers.

    But the series never shows anyone making star hops. They're all fusion rockets, and they only travel a few million miles, spending weeks or days en route. Probably deuterium/tritium fueled.

    What happened to the mighty starships? What happened to the Terran supertransports? And didn't anyone read "The High Frontier" on Earth? Why go to another star and terraform planets when you can stay around our solar system and build land areas in habitats with congomerate land area millions of times that of Earth's surface?

    The confusion rattled me after I figured out that Serenity wasn't a starship. If the author can't figure out the difference between a solar system, a group of stars WITH solar systems, and a galaxy of Earths, he ain't writing science fiction -- he's using the form instead. Sci-Fi instead of SF. With the caveat that his universe doesn't make any sense.

    However, I ignore all that and love the movie. I just wish they taught astronomy in writing classes.

  20. Re:The beginning is good by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The very same thing bothered me. I haven't seen the movie yet (but I'm going, 100%) and I'm honestly disappointed that it's all a big solar system. I guess I had pictured a cluster of stars, each with planets. Very important for the show is the notion of the core planets and "farther out" planets. But I did initially picture this on a galactic scale...

    I suppose it makes things a little better that these planets have many moons, all of which are terraformed and include artificial gravity (I know, hard to imagine - and all conveniently have the landscape of southern California). But there are laws of physics (maybe math, actually) about how close together planetary orbits may come in a stable solar system. There just can't be many orbits in the habitable zone. (Anything outside of the bands of Venus and Mars would not look like California no matter how good the terraforming is.) So why aren't the outer planets cold?

    You're right, many other details are thought out, but Whedon is delinquent on giving us a map of the settled planets, or even a sketch. I imagine he wants to, but can't make it fit with the requirements of the narrative. What the narrative requires is something analogous to an archipelago on the sea - a space that is densely populated with many moons and planets. That's just not gonna happen; the more you say about it, the sillier it would sound, so Whedon just ingnores the subject. If I were him, I'd have been more direct about it up front, bit the bullet on superluminal travel, and made Serenity an interstellar ship. This would explain the huge interstellar migration you mention... The downside is that Serenity seems too crappy to be superluminal... but then again, the Millennium Falcon was also a piece of crap and nobody had problems picturing hyperdrive. But there is something weird about people who can afford an interstellar spaceship but still use revolvers to shoot each other. Yes, a quirk of the show.

    So with the solar system thing, I think Whedon is digging himself deeper, and he should have worked out these things when he first conceived the show. Absent that, he just shouldn't address the issue. Anything he says about this will only make matters worse.

  21. Now available in QT, WMV & RealPlayer by Cheshyre · · Score: 5, Informative

    IFilm now has the first nine minutes available in three other formats: streaming Windows Media, QuickTime and Real Player

    Are those more accessible to your OS?