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Media Players for Windows Without DRM?
jasonmicron asks: "I am curious as to what you Linux/UNIX people use for a media player that supports both license lookup on the internet and DVD Playback support. I am quite sick of Microsoft's media player telling me that my 'license is invalid', even on DVDs that I own. I find that VERY lame. I ask because not only does Microsoft tell me that my license is invalid but Real Network's Real Player tells me the same thing (even though I place my totally VALID and self-owned DVD in my DVD-ROM player in my DVD-ROM, which runs on Windows). What media players does Slashdot recommend to bypass the total ignorance of Microsoft and Real Networks? I am looking for a Windows solution, though any Linux / UNIX solution is completely welcome."
Mplayer is available for a multitude of platforms, including Windows, Mac OS X, and *nix. In fact my girlfriend uses mplayer and mplayer only on her Mac OS X due to Quicktime being unable to play a large amount of movies.
Of course if you want dvd playback you will need libdvdcss, libdvdread, etc.
Get mplayer here.
VLC is a great, cross platform media player. I run it on Windows and it works well - it actually performs better than WinDVD on my laptop. It will play a number of file formats as well. I think it is also open source.
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Good media players: ZoomPlayer (for DVD playback is not free) or MPC (is, but less pretty). use Dscaler5 and ffdshow and you're set. oh, add something like DVD43 for de-CSS and other bullshit removal. I use this on my HTPC and with some careful setup its the bees knees. Certainly nothing complains about piracy here :D. Glad to be of service.
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Get on the Linux bandwagon, man!
Wonder what the public key field is for?
http://videolan.org/
A player and oh so much more.
Also, next time try Google. Really.
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Mplayer - Distibuted as MPF on windows, it's not _that_ user friendly, but it plays everything under the sun.
MediaPlayerClassic - Hosted at sourceforge, this recreates the WMP 6 UI and has pretty solid playback. Friendlier than Mplayer, but a tad less solid video playback.
VLC - yup the one and truly. Not too user friendly.
I use and recommend to everyone the K-Lite Codec Pack for all your Windows Media needs.
Along with everything else, the Mega Codec Pack includes "Windows Media Player Classic" which despite the name isn't anything to do with Microsoft, though it does clone the interface of Media Player version 6.
I carry the Mega Codec pack around with me on a USB Stick, you can install just one thing or you can install everything. Media Player Classic has built in support for a lot of things (I think including DVD Playback) so I'm sure it'll fit your needs exactly. If it doesn't by itself, the Mega Codec Pack includes plugins for just about any codec you'd ever need, including a DVD Decoder.
I really can't recommend the family of K-Lite codec packs enough, especially the Mega becasue you don't need to install Real Player or Quicktime anymore! It'll install cut down versions of them that have just the bare bones dll's, enough for MPC to play Quicktime/Real clips without needing all the bloat those programs bring on their own.
Give the site a look over, I'm sure it's probably what you're looking for. The Mega pack might be overkill for you, but Media Player Classic I think suits the bill perfectly.
Tim
[Sorry for the double post, I accidently posted this without being logged in. Duh]
not sure about that one, but codec packs are a pretty bad idea, they can install so much crap it'll take hours to work out what happened when something goes wrong with filter merits etc leading often to windows reinstalls. also, they're pretty pointless when ffdshow plays almost everything. i agree that MPC is good though, and it includes a lot of its own splitters so you don't need to install much else. :D).
i think no (free) player includes DVD playback as MPEG2 decoding needs a license (or some part of it, but some open source apps seem to get around it
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Does anyone know *why* WMP is telling the poster that his license is invalid? Since Microsoft has its own decryption key from DVD Forum, that should never happen, should it?
I use winamp for music, and a lot of the time I just use it for videos, too.
Your time-limited DVD playback software has probably expired.
Media Player by itself will not display 'license is invalid' message for normal DVD playback.
You just need to buy a new DVD decoder.
NVidia PureVideo Decoder or WinDVD are some of the best around.
I've never had a problem playing a DVD in windows media player, ever. And I use it for my primary player. It even plays all my ripped DVDs. Perhaps there is something wrong with your decoder? However, when setting up WMP, I deselected the option to manage liscenses. Did you do this? Go to tools, options. Deselect "prompt me to back up my liscense", under privacy deselect "acquire liscenses automatically". Although I'm not sure if that would work, as you are having a problem in realplayer as well.
Weird, it does not include the best codec out there (hmm, well, imho):
Lagarith. Dunno why, it's a free codec.
you mean you can play dvds in other media players than videolan?
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I don't know about windows reinstalls just for a codec pack?
I'd used some terrible codec packs before K-Lite and some of them did mess up pretty bad and that's why I praise this one so highly, it's never given me any grief. The few times I have uninstalled it, it's removed everything cleanly.
You're right in that installing all those codecs is really overkill, but don't forget that installing this codec pack also allows you to *encode* as well as decode, something neither MPC or ffdshow will do. As I understand it you also get the visual quality benefit of each seperate decoder, as opposed to ffdshow that just decodes them all as mpeg4. Fro Joe average that's probably not a concern either.
You're right that the DVD Decoder in K-Lite isn't legal, something I probably should have pointed out in my original post.
Tim
I almost always use Power DVD, which I would never buy (a tad buggy) but which came free with my DVD drive.
Probably because there's little content (at least in the wider public) in that format?
I'd never heard of it until you mentioned it.
I'm not sure what the entry criteria is for a codec to make it in though, because there's quite a few in it already I've not really heard or ever needed.
nt
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After all, if it was true DRM, switching to another player wouldn't make a damn bit of difference. If the content was locked and encoded with DRM technology.
Nope, instead the parent post is most certainly right. WMP9/10 will not prevent you via any DRM mechanism from watching a DVD. The DRM technology is for downloaded and locked content. Examples of such content? I don't really know of any. It's one of those things they spent a lot of money to build but no market for it yet.
The error message you are getting, and the fact you get the same message via WMP and RealPlayer is likely because they both are using the same CODEC for DVD data. The CODEC has expired. Remeber, by default Windows out of the box (Excluding Plus+ Pack) can't play DVDs. So you had to install something to make it work (unless the OEM pre-installed something) and that something appears to have been a trial only.
But, it is funny how well trained you are to immediately think DRM/MS conspiracy to prevent you from playing your legitimatly own DVDs. Shows the OpenSource FUD is working.
It wont be long now until Microsoft^h^h^h^$oft is groveling at the feet of the supreme GNU council begging for a seat at the table...
Oh how they'll pay....
-Malakai
A Dragon Lives in my Garage
Thats why codec packs that I've used always go in /usr/local/lib/win32
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
Using WMP Classic and the K-Lite pack does nothing to remove the DRM features which are inherent in Windows Media.
Although I suspect the poster is a bit confused because he is really looking for DRM-free media, not a DRM-free player.
Real Network's Real Player tells me the same thing (even though I place my totally VALID and self-owned DVD in my DVD-ROM player in my DVD-ROM, which runs on Windows).
I had this problem with NFL direct. Enable cookies and your content should play. The new Real Player now defaults to secure mode (no cookies) which I appreciate. Works under Linux and Win32.
Enjoy,
It's just the normal noises in here.
"I downloaded the Paris Hilton sex video but I can't crack the encryption. How can I view my pr0n without having to pay?"
-- "So, what's the deal with Auntie Gerschwitz et all?"
If you were remotely as smart as you tried to act, you would realize this is a registration/configuration issue and has nothing to do with what directories the codecs go into.
media player classic and klite codec pack or just VLC
not real hard to use Google
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Well, checking the grammAr would be a nice thing, yes.
Actually, putting your codecs in the linux /usr/local/lib/win32 directory IS a solution to your windows registration/configuration issues :P
Anyone know where *I* can get a copy? ;)
-- "So, what's the deal with Auntie Gerschwitz et all?"
IIRC, VideoLan plays back DVD's out of the box. MPEG2 is only licensed in countries where software patents are valid, VideoLan is developed in France which I believe does not have them, ergo, free and legal.
I am NaN
I have a huge collection of DVDs myself, some are legit and some are not. I also have home movies on DVD. I have never, ever been informed that my license is invalid (except for when I've downloaded pr0n with the spyware "license" embedded. Are you sure this isn't what's happening with you *wink wink*?) for any of them, including the backup DVDs I've made for "archival purposes". WMP is still the best media player around for the money (i.e., free), and it exceeds my expectations in nearly every area of operation. Don't get me wrong, it definitely has it's low points, like confusing library options and DRM options that have always and will always suck, but for the most part, it works great for me.
End of Line.
Nobody checks *anything* on /. The articles are only there to set the topic of the threads. What did you think this site was? A news site or something? :-D
Just checking.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
Once he finds the Mandriva Control Centre in the menus (AKA "Configure this computer"), problem solved.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
- VLC plays movies that you're currently downloading, - VLC plays fragmented files (i.e. 30% completed torrent downloads), - Quicktime files, DVDs, SVCDs, VCDs, even music files There have only been 1-2 files that I wasn't able to play with VLC, and even then the audio still played (which wasn't sufficient but shows that the software tried anyway). I never download any other player anymore, this one has all the codecs and capabilities.
And if you were remotely as smart as I am, you would realize the parent has his unix box set up to run windows codecs (I'm assuming wmv type of crap). but you're not. you are a poser who shows what a true ignorant fool he is by dissing others for being stupid w/o any understanding of what they are talking about. Did I mention that I am good-looking, successful, frequently get laid ... something about my beautiful dick, and you are fat and ugly and your wife, ..and something about your 2 friends, and la la la la...and.whatever. I just give up with you fucktards.
I'll just put it this way, not joking. You are slightly smarter than the average moron here. What makes you stupid is you assume you know the answer so don't bother to check it or learn anything. There are people like myself who also like to put people down. creatively. I, however, make sure I understand wtf I'm talking about before opening the can. Most importantly, I make sure I fully understand what the other person has just said. You do not. You're like - I don't get a part of what the guy is saying - so he must be an idiot - let me diss him and show off what dumbass I am.
The big thing is you don't even notice how stupid you actually come out looking. in your little world, you ignore the fact that you act the fool and build up this obliviously ignorant sense of apathy annoys me so.
No joking, I am a geek, like the real, true, math-engineering-atheist-physics-programmer geeks of Slashdot. Unlike most of them, however, my weight is 170 lbs at 5.11, and I bench 500 lbs 8 times. Let me show you how hard I can punch your shit-filled head off of your zit-covered lanyard-wearing asspony nigger neck. go make your bland attempt at satire somewhere else, you useless waste of space. 22.4 liters of a gas with the same density as your brain at standard temperature and pressure would be 6.02*10^22 molecules. aah yeah.
your informative spurred me to reply ;)
ffdshow is now an encoder aswell, and handles audio. it's come a long way.
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Well I stand corrected, thanks for pointing that out.
I'll hae to investigate ffdshow a bit more, see if it will replace my current use of K-Lite.
I doubt it, but we'll see!
Tim
I promise you, I have no spyware on my system.
isn't it 10^23?
yes, a mol is 10^23. I'll give you a hint: its a joke about the density of his brain matter.
FFDShow can't do Quicktime, RealMedia or WMV, but it can decode pretty much all types of MPEG. If you're looking for another codec pack, steer clear of almost all, including K-Lite. K-Lite is just a bundler - it doesn't change the default settings or anything, so nothing works together. It's also got a lot of stuff you will never need, & more that's redundant.
Personally I like this one: the Combined Community Codec Pack. It's made by a bunch of anime fansubbers, so they know what they're doing, but it's not anime-only. You need to install separate codecs for Quicktime, RealMedia, & WMV, but once they're installed (just install the players) it'll play back anything you throw at it. It's the only codec pack I know of that'll do that; all the others mess with your system & fail sporadically. K-Lite doesn't screw up the system any more, so it's one of the best, but it's still just a bundle of unconfigured pieces rather than an integrated whole.
I wish I could find a cross between K-Lite & the CCCP... basically I want the CCCP to include the Quicktime etc. codecs. That's the only advantage K-Lite has over the CCCP. You could theoretically use K-Lite first to install just those codecs then put the CCCP over the top to get the proper configuration it gives.
Yar.