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Ships Turned Away As Aussie Customs' IT System Melts Down

An anonymous reader writes "Urgent shipments of medicine and goods for the holiday season have been turned away by customs officials due to a massive computer problem. The initial budget for the system upgrade was said to be A$80 million but has since blown out to A$250 million. Customs officials and the government have been forced to admit that they might actually have to revert to the old system if things don't improve. One cargo user said on national TV that he used to process 300 orders daily but the new system is so complex and unusable, he's happy if he can manage 100 orders per day. The system failure is expected to have a massive impact especially on the retail sector this Christmas."

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  1. Christmas in Austraila a problem this year? by ForestGrump · · Score: 5, Funny

    Simple solution. Push it back 6 months till when it's actually cold!

    Grump.

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  2. Sad Christmas by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope my shipment of inflatable Love Dolls makes it through customs, otherwise it's going to be a lonely new year.

  3. From an Australian by tezbobobo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is news generally because of the rarity of this sort of thing. The only real issue I can think of is that our Health Minister has recently announced plans to immunise ALL Australians against bird flu. This could disrupt that (if it was realistic anyway). I guess this is all a part of ever increasing control.

    1. Re:From an Australian by B747SP · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I say hope, because if the ministers think that stockpiling this drug will atually help in a pandemic they are more than likely mistaken

      The drug companies have quite successfully pwned the tabloid newsmedia in Australia (and I suspect in plenty of other places on the planet) to the extent that every time they feel the need for an injection of cash, they prime the tabloids (newspapers, today tonight, current affair, sixty minutes and all of the similarly unreliable sources) with rumours of an outbreak of something-or-other, then it's all hands on the cash registers as the general public launches into a flurry of panic over whatever is $biohazard of the month.

      The best known of the recent efforts has been the meningitis scare here in Australia. The tabloid press/radio/tv has worked the public into a lather, and the drug companies are laughing all the way to the bank. Somehow the bit where the death rate from meningitis and related diseases is exactly the same this year as it was the year before and the year before that while (1) { and the year before that } seems to have been conveniently ignored.

      The connection back to the politicians is, of course, that there's nothing a politician likes more than a plethora of panicked punters to pacify, and that's exactly what's happening right now.

      What should the thinking Australian do right now? Buy pharmaceutical shares, that's what!

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  4. The obvious question... by Caspian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What OS do they run?

    What software do they use?

    And how will their IT people and/or management continue to justify said choices in the wake of this?

    This is the sort of thing that needs "big iron". Machines that have uptimes measured in decades. Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that they're running it all on a bunch of commodity PCs (or the like) with off-the-shelf software?

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    1. Re:The obvious question... by fidoandfido · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am an aussie, and as far as I know the backend is all mainframe based, and the frontend is web based or something. Rumour has it the whole project was a cluster something or other from the outset - it was outsourced to the lowest bidder, poor requirements led to poor design, deadlines missed and another IT disaster. But too much spent now to cancel it.

    2. Re:The obvious question... by daern · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What OS do they run?

      Why does this matter? It's much more likely that the problems are down to poorly specified, poorly designed or poorly implemented software, which is by no means an exclusive preserve of Windows...

      Too many large scale software projects fail because of poor development methodologies and a failure to interact with users during development and when this happens, it's hardly surprising that the users don't like working with the new system.

    3. Re:The obvious question... by ChatHuant · · Score: 5, Informative

      What OS do they run?

      What software do they use?


      CA, NCR and IBM are the service providers; Novell's providing the directory service.

      The ICS (Integrated Cargo System) application is running on an IBM OS390 mainframe; the OS is ZOS, the database is DB2. The web interface is Java, using WebSphere.

      The CCF (Customs Connect Facility) runs on Sun Solaris Unix platforms (using a variety of other servers for validation and transformation). Again, the database is DB2 and the interface uses WebSphere Java.

      More information here.

    4. Re:The obvious question... by ErroneousBee · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ah, its using Java. They just have to wait for the VM to start up and things will start running swiftly, in another fortnight or so...

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    5. Re:The obvious question... by BenjyD · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, petrol companies operate on Sundays. Refineries are so complex these days they can take weeks to switch off or on, so they operate constantly. I have heard of some older ones which have been modified and added to so much over the years that nobody actually knows how to switch them off safely - there are companies whose sole purpose is to go around figuring out the best way to switch plants off.

    6. Re:The obvious question... by afd8856 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a feeling that all this "complexity" that they're talking about has nothing to do with the backend and has everything to do with the user front-end. They should have hired some good workflow and interface designers as well, not just expensive consultants.

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    7. Re:The obvious question... by pookemon · · Score: 4, Informative

      What OS do they run?

      The same OS they've been using for a while (WinXP)

      What software do they use?

      Is a custom built system - written by EDS I believe.

      And how will their IT people and/or management continue to justify said choices in the wake of this?

      "Their" IT people didn't make the choices - Customs IT is provided by EDS (which is why I believe EDS also developed the system). The choices would have been made by higher management - but ultimately it doesn't matter, if the system is failing then it's the design of the system or the hardware in use - which I would expect is top dollar equipment, charged for at higher than retail prices (it's a government contract). The IT experts in Customs are more for retrieving data of hard disks after they've been seized etc. Customs hasn't managed their own IT for years now.

      This is the sort of thing that needs "big iron". Machines that have uptimes measured in decades. Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that they're running it all on a bunch of commodity PCs (or the like) with off-the-shelf software?

      This is laughable at best. How many "off the shelf" packages have you seen for handling Customs? The new package (and the old I expect) is a custom built piece of software (heck even the summary pointed this out - A$80 million but has since blown out to A$250 million - that is not "off-the-shelf")

      The system itself was written specifically for customs and has great features like it was too big to fit on all the monitors that customs was using (so naturally EDS upgraded all the machines - at a price - to have 19" LCD's).

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    8. Re:The obvious question... by KeensMustard · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If you must "protest vote", lodge an invalid ballot - don't give people/parties (particularly crazy ones like the Greens) the idea you actually support them.



      Yes they sure have some mad ideas don't they, those Greens. Like :

      • Maybe , given that we are a nation of boatpeople, it's a bit silly to lock people up (or kill them) for coming here in a boat?

      • maybe, being a signatory to the UN Convention on Human rights obligates us in some way to uphold it, not sure how.

      • Given that the ancients used to salt the land of their conquered enemies so that they (the enemy) could not plant crops, it's not real smart of us to be salting OUR OWN LAND and also expecting to grow crops

      • Possibly, we can find a better use for 800 year old trees, rather than giving them (for free) to the japanese to make paper?
        OR

      • Maybe inviting criminals and enemies of democracy into the heart of our democracy and then lauding them like emperors is a little hyprocritical and embarassing


      Such crazy ideas

  5. Curious... by the_skywise · · Score: 3, Funny

    It'll be interesting to see what the ultimate culprit is. (overpriced IBM/Accenture contractors, Indian outsourcing, Windows, Linux, etc)

    But I'm 99% sure it'll have something to do along the lines of:

    "Mate, we need a new Customs software system."

    "No prob. We'll do it in [whiz bang technoterm du jour]"

    "That's it?"

    "That's it. [whiz bang technoterm du jour] using [whizbang development process du jour]"

    "But what about things like useability? Proof of concept? Customer Support if the design proves unwieldy?"

    "Top. Men."

  6. No ships turned away yet. by palndrumm · · Score: 5, Informative

    All the news and radio reports I've read and heard (including TFA) have made no mention of ships being actually turned away at this stage. So far they're just saying that the storage space at the ports is rapidly filling up, so if the processing rate doesn't improve soon they will have to look at turning ships away. But as far as I can tell, they're planning to roll back to the old system before that becomes necessary...

  7. The solution is... by bmo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the AU government to let goods travel freely until they fix or bring up the old system. There really is no excuse for what is going on. Yes, that means that the AU government doesn't get its cut of taxes but them's the breaks. The money lost from import fees would be DWARFED compared to the lossess incurred by *not* letting goods through the ports.

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    1. Re:The solution is... by ftoomch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And those incurred losses from *not* letting goods through would in turn be DWARFED compared to the long term economic havoc in a largely agricultural economy caused by pests and diseases (e.g. foot & mouth disease) that are also let through on unchecked goods.

    2. Re:The solution is... by lamasquerade · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Largely agricultural economy? Maybe in 1900. Well I'm not quite sure what classifies as 'largely', but given these stats, I'd say Australia's economy is minimally agricultural. 3.7% to be exact. And the government subsidises that heavily (explicitly because of politics, and implicitly through idiotic short-sightedness, such as cheap-as-hell water for rice farmers, that's right, rice in the second dryest continent on earth). Some say the subsidies outweigh the real contribution to our economy. Maybe the best thing for us would be to have this sector destroyed, then we can get to cleaning up the mess they've created over the last two centuries, such as salination.

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  8. Don't you love Federal/State point scoring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page.cfm?c=6361

    Partial quote...

    "Customs is doing everything possible to resolve technical and business issues arising from the introduction of the new Integrated Cargo System (ICS) for imports.

    "Contrary to some media reports, the new IT system for imports has not failed, nor is its performance solely responsible for the problems that have occurred.

    "The problems experienced in part, flow from inaccurate and incomplete information being submitted by some users, which the new system is designed not to accept for security reasons," the spokesman said.

  9. Can I gloat or do I have to be embarrassed? by nuonguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just can't stand it when they don't post whether it's a windows-based or a unix/linux-based implementation. I need to know whether I can indulge in schadenfreude or whether I have to make excuses.

    1. Re:Can I gloat or do I have to be embarrassed? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I just can't stand it when they don't post whether it's a windows-based or a unix/linux-based implementation.

      How about...'it doesn't matter'.

      This is probably the result of a crappy design, with little interaction between the developers and the eventual users.

      It does what it was designed to do. The problem is the design and implementation does not match what it NEEDS to do.

  10. Aussie customs by Centurix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was actually part of a company a couple of years ago which put through a proposal to assist with tracking firearms imported into Australia. We were shocked at what we found when we consulted several customs offices.

    There was no integrated network system between interstate customs offices.

    Sure, they e-mailed each other and did some odd bits of communication, but there was nothing solid in place. Part of our proposal was to put in a system where if a shipment of firearms was sent from Melbourne to Sydney the Sydney office would actually know that one was going to arrive. A step up from their existing system at the time, where the firearms actually left Melbourne, turned up at the Sydney customs depot without prior knowledge and then processed!

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  11. Amazing. by JavaRob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm no grizzled guru by any means, but damn, I know by now that though it *may* seem cheaper to upgrade all in one fell swoop, you're gonna get hosed every time. The bigger the system, the more likely, just because there's no way you can *test* the thing at that scale.

    Software is *complicated*. Large-scale software rollouts are even *more* complicated, just because now you've involved hundreds or thousands of non-debuggable, unpredictable people into the equation. No matter how many meetings you have about it, no matter how many different people assure you that they will do "whatever it takes" to make sure it goes smoothly, keep in mind that they probably don't have "what it takes", which would often be some kind of deity-level power.

    Let's look now at the "largest e-government projects ever undertaken", introduced "despite industry protests that Customs had not allowed them ample time for the changeover." It's not hard to guess how it's going to go.

    Sometimes, you gotta go the slow way... replace the old system bit by bit, make sure you can flip the switch back every step of the way if something goes wrong. At the very least you have to plan it from the start so that you can roll out piecemeal, just in one site, or run the old/new in parallel, etc..

    This method results in a more expensive *estimate* at the start of the project. But the actual *cost* in the end can be much, much lower.

    Just my 2c...

  12. Some more info on who developed it by TheNarrator · · Score: 4, Informative

    Computer World Article

    ICS is a cornerstone of Customs' massive Cargo Management Re-engineering (CMR) project. This was intended to replace the export and brokerage industry-developed EDI system Customs Connect with a Web-based model co-developed by Customs and a consortium of IT vendors led by Computer Associates. The project aims to facilitate all aspects of Customs involvement in the import and export process including declarations and GST transactions collected at port.

    Nother Article
    More than seven years to this point of readiness, ICS is a cornerstone of Customs' massive Cargo Management Re-engineering (CMR) project, which will replace the export and brokerage industry-developed EDI system, Customs Connect. CMR is a Web-based model co-developed by Customs and a consortium of IT vendors led by Computer Associates, EDS, IBM and Telstra nee Kaz.

  13. Who is behind this? by new-black-hand · · Score: 4, Informative
    As if they didn't see it coming, the bastards. Here is an article from the SMH from January of 2004:
    Customs Minister Chris Ellison will meet software developers and industry groups tomorrow after finding persistent bugs in the latest version of the Australian Customs Service's ambitious new import and export system. Most of version 3 of the system was delivered to developers last week for testing, but problems have persisted. "Customs is burning money like it is going out of style," one developer told Next.
    The Customs Office and it's IT outsourcing arrangements have previously been the subject of a senate enquiry, lets hope that they get nothing less again this time around and the people responsible are bought to account. One thing I did notice is that not a single article reports on who the developers behind the project are. My knowledge is that Computer Associates have slowly started taking over things from EDS at customs - can anyone confirm?
  14. Mod Parent Up... by Rocketship+Underpant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Funny how to the state, free commerce isn't an option, but blowing $250 million that isn't even yours on a computer system that doesn't work is okay.

    "Your papers, citizen! Whoops, my citizen-authorization-scanner just went dead. You'll have to be detained while I get fresh batteries. Oh, and that'll cost $10 - batteries aren't free, you know."

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  15. Re:One word... by yamum · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes

    EDS == Everything Done Slowly

    But in the Aussie case it could be changed to

    EDS == Everything Done Shithousely

  16. The Real Problem by Grail · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real problem with this system is that it used the principle of "Big Design Up Front". Ask Joel Spolsky about the benefits of "Big Design Up Front" - you get to make all kinds of assumptions about the environment to simplify development, then find when you turn on the switch that this $80M system just doesn't work right.

    The little things that get you down? Oh... date formats, validating input, units for measurement, using a communications system intended for overnight batch operations to support real-time interactive operations.

    As other posters have mentioned, the bid that got the nod was the lowest one. The bid that should have received the goahead was the one that recommended incremental changes. The one that recommended introducing a new means for handling import declarations - and not cutting over, but rather letting the old one die the natural death of user migration.

    The final nail in the coffin was Customs insisting that more detail be included in these reports - no longer can you submit 300 reports in a day saying that what you're importing is "1 Box of parts", you actually have to specify what the parts are and how many are in the box - I suspect this is what is causing the problem as the system rejects "invalid" submissions and forces the importers to rework and resubmit their import declarations.

  17. Today's Crikey mentioned this by spongeboy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Crikey.com.au mentioned this today in their mailout.

    Apparently the issue is that the data coming in (mainly from ships) is quite crufty, whereas the system expects nice clean data (GIGO anyone?).

    Also, apparently a lot of these Brokers have a vested interest in the old system, as the new one will allow major importers (eg. supermarkets) to clear goods themselves, meaning less money for the brokers.

    As for delays and ships being turned back- appears to be mainly FUD, with a little bit of lack of foresight and poor planning.

    Seems like a change management failure to me.

  18. Maybe it's users making it not to work by paugq · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One factor seldomly taken in account is the user's reluctance to the new system.

    You may have a 100% working new system, with a 1000% improvement over the old system, but if users are not excited about the new system and they do not want to use it for whatever-the-reason (maybe just because he/she now has to learn new things), the new system is going to fail. Users will make sure it fails. I have seen that many times.

  19. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Informative

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  20. Re:exchange rates by FidelCatsro · · Score: 3, Funny

    but if they don't get it sorted out soon it will be more like
    250=120=40852

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  21. Not Entirely a Software Problem by nathanh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The rumour on the grapevine is that the problems don't entirely stem from the software. The data entry now requires details (you want what now?) and that makes it impossible to process cargo as quickly as before. The software is just a convenient scapegoat. The reality is that the old system allowed the data entry to be sloppy (and effectively useless).

    1. Re:Not Entirely a Software Problem by Zellis · · Score: 5, Informative
      Partially true. The new system does require considerably more detail and accuracy, but that's only one of the issues that's come up. Another issue that's come up is that more detail = more data to process, and the system appears like it wasn't designed with that in mind: it's been severely overloaded all week. Add to that the non-existant training in the new system (my company was given what amounted to a 3-minute demonstration of the new interface we had to use before being required to use it exclusively), the bugs that are still being worked out (some of which have made data entry impossible for hours at a time), and a very poor effort at explaining the new procedures that Customs have implemented as a result of the change-over, and you get the current situation.

      It's true that the main problem isn't the software (although the bugs don't help): it's the way the new system was implemented

  22. Concept I almost always see overlooked by OpenSourced · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They say that in a few years a human-engineered microorganism will be created with a selected set of genes. All very well, and I suppose that won't be released into the wild. But I bet that if they ever do it (release it into the wild), it'll last about 5 minutes against its evolution-designed competitors and generally hostile environment.

    The same happens to the IT systems. Legacy systems may be old (how can software be old, anyway?), incompatible, user-unfriendly, and whatever else. But a basic fact so often overlooked is that they have for many years been adapting (or rather being adapted) to their environment (users, other programs, etc). If you look at legacy code you always find odd-looking "if's" with comments like "It must do this to work", or "The other program expects it that way", or no comment at all. The point is that all this spaguetti code has beed polished, adapted and perfected by the work of programmers guided by the reality, as opposed to designers guided by their own desires and incomplete knowledge of the problem.

    So the point is that _all_ scratch designed systems will lose all that ancient knowledge embedded into the code, and there is nothing you can do about it (inspecting all the code would be impossible, and the knowledge can sometimes be into OS parameters, shell scripts, scraps of paper with procedures in the drawers of remote users, or even in the brains of world-scattered users) So the only thing to do is to have it into account when designing a new system of some complexity, and knowing that it will take you like a year at least of real running till it's at the same level of functionality as the old. So probably you'll need a year of overlaping systems (perish the thougth).

    When presented with that reality most managers will think again if they really need the new system, and at least will be prepared for the problems ahead.

    But of course that might not sell the new system, so who's interested in telling those truths to management. Certainly not the seller's marketing dept, their concealing habilities much helped by the fact that they are themselves blissfully unaware of the problem.

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  23. And his cabinet colleagues by ynotds · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In a closely related current issue federal Agriculture Minister Peter McGauran displayed the scientific illiteracy so recently evident in more governments than ours by getting all in a tizz about some Canadian pigeons that flew in ahead of the customs slow down only to be discovered to have viral antibodies but not live viruses and be sentenced to immediate death for having beaten the dreaded avian flu or, in four cases, Newcastle disease.

    If only we could do the same to politicans carrying antibodies, let alone their sick computer systems.

    Better not think about juxtaposing the importation of pigeons from the other side of the world with the wish of local authorities to wipe out the feral pigeons already settled in here.

    Don't worry, it gets worse. Just check out the support for teaching "intelligent design" from the general practitioner our over-tired and under-opposed federal government have given responsibility for education.

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    1. Re:And his cabinet colleagues by Bush+Pig · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nelson has absolutely no intellectual integrity. After all, to get his doctor degree, he must have studied some science, including biology, and yet he's comfortable with creationism being given equal time with science as an alternative explanation for life as we know it.

      It almost makes me ashamed to be Australian.

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    2. Re:And his cabinet colleagues by mankey+wanker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, don't feel so bad. I'm an American!

      Yeah, that's right. Mod me funny - throw away your points...

    3. Re:And his cabinet colleagues by drsmithy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Whats wrong with creationism being given equal time with science as an alternative explanation for life as we know it?

      Because it's not science.

      Creationism should certainly be discussed - but in a religion or philosophy class, where it belongs, not in a science class.

  24. Advice for the project director by CharliePete · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Project Director,

    Your situation reminds me of the old IT parable that goes something like this...

    On his first day on the job a new IT Director has a meeting with the outgoing one. At the end of the meeting the ougoing IT Director hands the new on 3 envelopes and tells him to use them to get out of his first 3 major meltdowns, "just make sure you wait to open them until you need them."

    About 3 months later the new IT Director has his first major disaster and remembers the envelopes. Opening the first one he sees, "Blame Me" in big bold letters. Which he does and it works.

    Six months after that the second blow up happens and the second letter reads, "Blame the Vendors" which also works.

    One year later when everything falls apart the new IT Director opens the third letter full of hope. It reads, "Write 3 Letters."

    ...I think it's time you opened the third envelope. Good luck in your future endeavors.

    Sincerely,
    The Guy Before You

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  25. Worlds Best Practices Do Not Work by jordg · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have seen this so many times. Big project, Big Budget, Big Names, Big Price, Big Stuffup.
    I believe that a system like this is reasonably simple and can be created by a very small team.
    With big projects you end up with teams of project managers micro managing everything. This is why it gets so diffiult. I was once on a project where my part was to copy files intact from remote locations to a central site. What a mess. The project manager had designed a process that failed every time. Not to mention the bandwith upgrades that happened after the file transfers. All they needed was one person with the know how to get it done and a small team of switched on IT persons to manage the entire thing.
    Companies are concetrating too much on process and management than getting the work done. These types of projects are not that difficult.