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20 Years of NES

Twenty years ago, the NES changed the face of U.S. gaming. All this week, 1up.com has a series of features celebrating the anniversary of the Nintendo Entertainment System. From the site: "When the NES launched, America hated videogames. Well, sort of. The Atari 2600 had upset folks by flooding the market with bad software and, at first, retailers were reluctant to sell another system. But the NES was a hit, controlling a healthy 90 percent of the U.S. home videogame industry at the peak of its popularity."

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  1. where's the article? by conJunk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me, or was the target of the link devoid of anything except ads?

    I thought I'd found the path to the rest of the story when I got to this sentance:

    And take a minute this week to unpack your dusty NES from its storage closet and go for a run-and-jump trip down memory lane.

    there was link on "memory" (which has since disappeared) that went to dell.com's RAM catalog. Ugh.

    1. Re:where's the article? by op12 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The images below that last line link to the different articles. Try this: http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3144996

    2. Re:where's the article? by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Funny

      Click on the images. They're a form of navigation, not ads. You'll note that they say "monday", "tuesday", "wednesday", etc. The series is only half complete.

      Damn! And I was waiting for them to put Saturdays up for sale. I don't have nearly enough of them.

  2. Ah, Good Times... by MudButt · · Score: 5, Funny

    But the NES was a hit, controlling a healthy 90 percent of the U.S. home videogame industry at the peak of its popularity

    And I still have the bad report cards to prove it!

    1. Re:Ah, Good Times... by op12 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But the NES was a hit, controlling a healthy 90 percent...

      ...which weren't healthy for much longer!

  3. THAT'S IT... by ferrellcat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm officially OLD! :(

    1. Re:THAT'S IT... by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh yeah? When I was your age, we didn't have these new-fangled vee-dee-oh games! For fun, we had real gorillas throwing real barrels at us!

      (Seriously, though, my first console was ColecoVision, so I've already felt old for a while.)

  4. NES by readin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I went from Atari 2600 straight to GameCube. Both are (were) great! I'm looking forward to my first experience with Zelda!

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    1. Re:NES by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Funny

      How did that happen ?
      Did you try to complete ET and loose 20 years through a nervous breakdown

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  5. America hated video games... by Winckle · · Score: 5, Funny
  6. Trip down memory lane by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ah yes, the good old days of gaming. Back when games had to be fun rather than bloody. I always found it nice that Nintendo took a solid stance about the family playability of games. It meant that the games had to be sold on the basis of something other than blood and gore. While there were quite a few Nintendo games that sold because they were either a) cheap or b) had a movie license (Karate Kid anyone?), a large number of the games for the old system were just good. Nintendo's "Seal of Quality" program came out, it helped keep the overall quality of games high, again because they had to be competitive on something other than shock factor. Not that the graphics of the time allowed much of that anyway...

    When the SuperNES came out, it wasn't long before the issue of blood and gore came up, especially in the light of the SuperNES's new graphics capabilities. But Nintendo pushed back at game creators and kept that era of gaming fun. Even more so because Nintendo didn't approve games that didn't meet their playtester approval.

    Then the Playstation came out, and despite its technical superiority, it sucked. But they had the Blood and Gore (and Loading...), and plenty of boring 3D games that only sold due to shock factor. But eventually Sony pushed long enough and hard enough, and now we have the games of today. Even Nintendo gets into the whole "adult" thing with their postively revolting Conq the Squirrel game. Thanks Sony. :-(

    1. Re:Trip down memory lane by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Uh, the "Seal of Quality" was just a measure to stop pirates, it was by no means an actual indication of a game's quality. There was plenty of crap out there with the Nintendo Seal of Quality on it.

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    2. Re:Trip down memory lane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The first game I had for Nintendo was two murderous games in one:

      One where you leave a trail of death behind as you fight to rescue the human oppressor that subjugates the indiginous fungo-sapien population.

      And the other where you blow the crap out of ducks and, after missing a few times, attempt to blast the smartass dog.

      I don't even want to think about the mass genocide in Metroid...

    3. Re:Trip down memory lane by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The seal wasn't used to stop pirates, it was the lock-out chip. Witness Tengen.

      If you'd read Game Over, you know the seal was part of a program to keep publishers from flooding the market; it wasn't to keep bad games from getting through, it was to to keep a metric fuckload of crap games from getting through (ala 2600). The seal was Nintendo's PR way of telling potential consumers that it wasn't going to be the cause of another Dark Age of Video Games.

      Nintendo also had a strict policy of limiting the number of titles a publisher could release in a year. They could still get away with crap games, but then they'd have to rely on that crap game for income before they're allowed to have another shot at finding player love.

  7. Boo. by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "By the end of the 1980s the courts found Nintendo guilty of anti-trust activities because it had abused its relationship with third party developers and created a monopoly in the gaming industry by not allowing developers to make games for any other platforms." -- Wikipedia

    All the fanboys seem to ignore that Nintendo broke the law repeatedly. When Microsoft does it, you guys pee your fake-lawyer trousers. When Nintendo does it, you pee your fanboy pants.

    Frankly, Nintendo did more to destroy proper homebrew gaming than a thousand Ataris helped to establish it. I look forward to their doom thanks to the GamePark open handheld gaming platform.

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    1. Re:Boo. by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Main difference is that Nintendo did it 15 years ago and now don't do it .
      Microsoft still are doing it .

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    2. Re:Boo. by jdog1016 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know, regardless of whether or not thats true, maybe try finding an actual source to backup your claims, and perhaps even LINK to it. Wikipedia does not count.

  8. Top 15 games as posted by 1up: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Top 15 games as posted by 1up:
    15. Dragon Warrior
    14. Duck Hunt
    13. StarTropics
    12. Bionic Commando
    11. Zelda II
    10. Duck Tales
    9. Super Mario Bros. 2
    8. Final Fantasy
    7. Mega Man 2
    6. Contra
    5. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
    4. River City Ransom
    3. Super Mario Bros.
    2. The Legend of Zelda
    1. Super Mario Bros. 3

  9. NES #1? Ignorance. by ziggy+the+zagnut · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's foolish, revisionist history to say that Americans hated videogames. Does anyone remember Pac Man fever? The album? It was a phenomenon. There was a veritable ton of Pac Man schwag (cheesy merchandise like bubble gum dispensers, keychains, Rubik's cube knockoffs, etc.) showing strong evidence of video games' pre-Nintendo dominance in American culture.

    I'm very weary of articles, especially on boingboing.net, that pitch Mario Bros. as the original videogame. You all should be making fan art of Yar's Revenge, Pitfall and River Raid.

  10. Re:Ahh! NES! by HebrewToYou · · Score: 5, Funny

    How in the world can ExciteBike be left off your list?

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  11. SNES by killermookie · · Score: 4, Funny

    While the article details about NES (which I owned including the Atari 2600), I remember the day I went out and bought the SNES.

    I faked a sickness and fooled my parents, allowing me to stay home from school. Once they left, it was a quick ride to the local Woolworth store (remember those stores?) and a $200 purchase later I was at home playing Super Mario World.

    My parents didn't have a clue.

  12. Super Mario Bros. Super Show by antdude · · Score: 4, Informative

    I noticed the article mentioned the cheesy lame cartoon series, Super Mario Bros. Super Show. You can watch that online on Yahooligans! TV for free. Even The Legend of Zelda cartoons are there.

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  13. Huh? by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Insightful


    The Atari 2600 had upset folks by flooding the market with bad software

    What? I had an Atari 2600 and I don't remember being "upset at bad software" at all. Was everyone else upset and I just somehow missed it?

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    1. Re:Huh? by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rotton 2600 games lived somewhere between ET and Custer's Revenge in the plane between unplayable and outright obnoxiousness. The system just didn't have enough oomph for Pac Man, Defender, or Star Raiders, but the 2600 version of Asteroids rocked.

      Keep in mind the time period. The 2600 was released in 1977 though the more common version was released in 1982, and games were limited to 4K IIRC and not even 1K of system RAM. The NES was released in 1987 IIRC.

      What they are describing is the console market crash of 1983. The parent might have not noticed this crash because games for the consoles were still plentyful, just the companies who made them folded and they ended up marked down to 5 bucks at Toys R Us. Remember the Adam, TI, Timex-Sinclair, Intelivision? Poof by 1984. Quite sad as all were pretty good products, well except the Timex. But there was much in the way of crap during that time as you pointed out, but a few gems here and there. For some reason though the atari 5200 and 7800 didn't become very popular, which isn't shocking as Atari's focus by this point was in a computer.

      Commodore and Atari stuck around for a good long while though... though the Commodore was very much stronger in the game department.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainmen t_System
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1 983

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  14. "Adult Gamers" by kevin_conaway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the influx of high quality sports games attracted a whole new class of people to gaming, the "Adult Gamers." These are the folks that have money to spend but only play games casually with their friends.

    Whichever system had the best NBA 2K or Madden game won the pack. The others followed suit.

  15. Re:NES #1? Ignorance. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    PacMan was prior to the Video Game Crash. After the Video Game Crash, all the people who'd spent MegaBucks on Atari, Intellivison, and Coleco systems were left out in the cold with highly expensive hardware and no software to buy. A LOT of consumers became rather despondant over this, thus the line "Americans hated video games." It was so bad that Nintendo called the console an "Entertainment System" and marketed a Robot with it to keep people from thinking of it as Another Video Game Console(TM).

    Originally, Nintendo was also going to market a disk drive (which was available for the Fanicom in Japan) so that people could use it as a home PC. As it turned out, the market accepted the Nintendo well enough that they eventually ditched the whole "home computer" idea.

  16. NES inspired music by Neva · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are quite a few people nowadays, who have grown up with NES systems in their time, keeping the music alive in various forms. For instance:

    Minibosses
    Redefined - Nintendo A Cappella
    All Your Bass A Cappella

    ..and as a side mention:
    http://www.pressplayontape.com/

  17. No Games? by miyako · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I was expecting to see a list of reasons why the NES was great...like yet another top 10 list or something, so I'll post one, here are my top 10 NES games I think everyone should play if given a chance (in no particular order).
    1. Dragon Warrior - the game that started the JRPG.
    2. Blaster Master - the first game I remember playing that had something like an Isometric view
    3. Super Mario Bro's 3 - perhaps the finest mario game ever.
    4. Bionic Commando - Robotic Zombie Hitler and a huge bionic claw, what more could you ask for?
    5. The Ledgend of Zelda - A classic by any definition
    6. Kirby - one of the prettiest games for the NES and a fine platformer- too bad they changed the formula so much for later games
    7. Castlevania - the first survival horror game, the controls are a little clunky but it's still a classic platformer
    8. Megaman - I've never actually beaten any of the Megaman games, but a classic if you like HARD games
    9. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II The Arcade Game - This is one of those games that's probably not great, but I remember it fondly
    10. Final Fantasy - The first in the series, a solid game but definitely different than today's FF games.
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  18. My Mother by DrugCheese · · Score: 3, Interesting

    still begs me to find her a NES system so she can play her Dr.Mario and other games she was more addicted to then I being addicted to Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior. Although I've set her up with nesticle and a generaic d-pad, it's not a Nintendo controller so she doesn't like it.

    NES was a family tradition with us, after dinner we'd all sit around and play duck hunt or Mario Brothers.

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  19. Hated? What hate? by SpiceWare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nobody stopped gaming, they just changed where they gamed. The early to mid 80s was when home computers first became affordable. Everybody I knew turned off their Atari/Coleco/Intellivision game console and started gaming on their Atari/Commodore/TRS-80 computer system instead.

  20. Hot sex scene. by red990033 · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I was 7, I figured out how to unlock the hidden sex scene inside of Super Mario Bros.

    That three-some between Mario, Lugi, and the Princess was hot.

    Needless to say, my mom threw out my NES system.

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  21. Re:NES #1? Ignorance. by nunchux · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's foolish, revisionist history to say that Americans hated videogames. Does anyone remember Pac Man fever? The album? It was a phenomenon. There was a veritable ton of Pac Man schwag (cheesy merchandise like bubble gum dispensers, keychains, Rubik's cube knockoffs, etc.) showing strong evidence of video games' pre-Nintendo dominance in American culture.

    I was 14 or 15 around the time and remember it well. A few years before, everyone loved games. Every family had an Atari. Every mall had an arcade. EVERYONE played games. Even parents. And girls. Then, there was a crash, for whatever reason-- most likely because even the best games were limited and got boring fast. In 1984-5, if you liked video games, you owned a Commodore 64. The days of families-- or really anyone but pasty-faced geeks-- buying consoles and games was very much over. That is, until Nintendo revolutionized the market. Their games were light years beyond previous generation because they weren't just three screens of action that repeated until you died, they were fun and interesting worlds that could be explored. And unlike the typical Atari game that just got faster and faster on the same screen until you inevitably died, Nintendo games could be beaten and won.

    As for revisionism-- I don't think there's any shortage of Pac Man or Atari nostalgia, especially on the web. 32-in-1 Atari joysticks sell by the millions and I see 20-somethings in vintage game shirts all the time. Are you really trying to suggest that no one remembers that era?

    I'm very weary of articles, especially on boingboing.net, that pitch Mario Bros. as the original videogame. You all should be making fan art of Yar's Revenge, Pitfall and River Raid.

    I haven't seen many articles like that, but I'll believe you. But I think this is a key to why Nintendo is so beloved-- you don't give a shit about Yar and why he wants revenge, or what the River Raid plane's mission was. You don't really even care why Pac Man does whatever he does. Nintendo's games and characters-- Zelda, Mario, Metroid, etc.-- have a story and a soul. They may look primitive now, but at the time they felt like cartoons brought to life.

  22. Modern Hardware for use with your NES by Jagasian · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are a few hardware projects out there, for increasing your enjoyment of your NES. One is a special game cart that lets you write ROM images to a NES cart, called the FunkyFlashCart, and then you can play ROM on a real NES. Because it uses flash for holding the ROMs, ROMs can be written many times to the cart. Similarly, it uses a CPLD in order to recreate the many different circuit-board types used in NES games. This is necessary because NES games lack a strong distinction between hardware and software common in modern games, i.e., NES games each include their own circuit board and ICs which must also be accurately recreated along with the game's ROM image in order to play the game. Note that the FunkyFlashCart is still under development, but will soon go on sale. No longer will you be stuck playing your NES games on a crappy inaccurate emulator!

    Another interesting device is actually a hardware modification for your NES called the "CopyNES". It has recently been redesigned, upgraded, and put into another round of production. Basically it is a device for ripping ROM images from carts, but it is also a ICE debugger for the NES, and it can even transfer ROM images to a RAM cart in the NES via a parallel port. The CopyNES has many other features, a favorite being the ability to play NSF files on the NES. NSF files are music ripped from NES games. Hence you can listen to your NES tunes on a real NES, as opposed to a NES emulator with poor emulation of the system's actual sound. The CopyNES is basically a circuit board that is placed between the NES's CPU and the NES's motherboard. This is how it is able to accomplish the ICE debugger features, as well as universal cart dumping, as it can force the CPU to do whatever you want. Here is the original site for the CopyNES. However, it shows an older version of the hardware. The creator announced in this thread that he will begin selling kits to mod your NES with CopyNES, and he will also provide a slightly more expensive service so that people can send their NES systems in for professional modification.

  23. Re:Still Got Mine! by mrbobjoe · · Score: 3, Funny
    It actually gets more play time than my Gamecube, PS2, or PSP...
    The time you spend trying to get it to boot doesn't count.
  24. Re:Jaws..... by Castar · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think you're going to need a bigger controller.

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  25. Tales from the 8-bit era by realityfighter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, the story is a little funnier than that. Tengen tried to reverse engineer the lockout chip, but they couldn't in time to make their deadline. So they called the USPTO and asked them to send a copy of the chip spec, claiming that they needed the information for an ongoing legal case. The Patent Office gladly passed over the specs, and Tengen started making copies. By the time Nintendo had sued the pants off Tengen, they'd figured out how to disable the lockout by sending a small power surge to knockout the chip inside the system.

    Another funny story from the NES era is the tale of Wisdom Tree Games, the derivative company created by Color Dreams to sell unauthorized NES cartridges out in the open without fear of retribution from Nintendo. How? The company and the games were biblically themed, and the carts were sold in Christian bookstores. Nintendo didn't dare sue a company making bible games, for fear of massive PR backlash. So Wisdom Tree thrived in its technically-illegal niche. In fact, it's still around today and still printing carts for the gameboy color.

    The 10NES chip certainly made for some interesting stories.

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  26. has been hooked up ever since by QEDog · · Score: 4, Funny
    Gotta love the NES. Mine has been hooked up ever since I got it for my 7th birthday.

    Maybe it is time to move out of your parents' house.

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