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20 Years of NES

Twenty years ago, the NES changed the face of U.S. gaming. All this week, 1up.com has a series of features celebrating the anniversary of the Nintendo Entertainment System. From the site: "When the NES launched, America hated videogames. Well, sort of. The Atari 2600 had upset folks by flooding the market with bad software and, at first, retailers were reluctant to sell another system. But the NES was a hit, controlling a healthy 90 percent of the U.S. home videogame industry at the peak of its popularity."

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  1. where's the article? by conJunk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me, or was the target of the link devoid of anything except ads?

    I thought I'd found the path to the rest of the story when I got to this sentance:

    And take a minute this week to unpack your dusty NES from its storage closet and go for a run-and-jump trip down memory lane.

    there was link on "memory" (which has since disappeared) that went to dell.com's RAM catalog. Ugh.

    1. Re:where's the article? by op12 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The images below that last line link to the different articles. Try this: http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3144996

    2. Re:where's the article? by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Funny

      Click on the images. They're a form of navigation, not ads. You'll note that they say "monday", "tuesday", "wednesday", etc. The series is only half complete.

      Damn! And I was waiting for them to put Saturdays up for sale. I don't have nearly enough of them.

  2. Ah, Good Times... by MudButt · · Score: 5, Funny

    But the NES was a hit, controlling a healthy 90 percent of the U.S. home videogame industry at the peak of its popularity

    And I still have the bad report cards to prove it!

    1. Re:Ah, Good Times... by op12 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But the NES was a hit, controlling a healthy 90 percent...

      ...which weren't healthy for much longer!

  3. THAT'S IT... by ferrellcat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm officially OLD! :(

    1. Re:THAT'S IT... by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh yeah? When I was your age, we didn't have these new-fangled vee-dee-oh games! For fun, we had real gorillas throwing real barrels at us!

      (Seriously, though, my first console was ColecoVision, so I've already felt old for a while.)

    2. Re:THAT'S IT... by TClevenger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It sure didn't hurt. One of the big things that NES had going for it was that the games you played on it were as good as the real machines in the arcade. The 2600 games, on the hand, were horrible approximations of the arcade games.

  4. NES by readin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I went from Atari 2600 straight to GameCube. Both are (were) great! I'm looking forward to my first experience with Zelda!

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    1. Re:NES by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Funny

      How did that happen ?
      Did you try to complete ET and loose 20 years through a nervous breakdown

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  5. America hated video games... by Winckle · · Score: 5, Funny
  6. Trip down memory lane by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ah yes, the good old days of gaming. Back when games had to be fun rather than bloody. I always found it nice that Nintendo took a solid stance about the family playability of games. It meant that the games had to be sold on the basis of something other than blood and gore. While there were quite a few Nintendo games that sold because they were either a) cheap or b) had a movie license (Karate Kid anyone?), a large number of the games for the old system were just good. Nintendo's "Seal of Quality" program came out, it helped keep the overall quality of games high, again because they had to be competitive on something other than shock factor. Not that the graphics of the time allowed much of that anyway...

    When the SuperNES came out, it wasn't long before the issue of blood and gore came up, especially in the light of the SuperNES's new graphics capabilities. But Nintendo pushed back at game creators and kept that era of gaming fun. Even more so because Nintendo didn't approve games that didn't meet their playtester approval.

    Then the Playstation came out, and despite its technical superiority, it sucked. But they had the Blood and Gore (and Loading...), and plenty of boring 3D games that only sold due to shock factor. But eventually Sony pushed long enough and hard enough, and now we have the games of today. Even Nintendo gets into the whole "adult" thing with their postively revolting Conq the Squirrel game. Thanks Sony. :-(

    1. Re:Trip down memory lane by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Uh, the "Seal of Quality" was just a measure to stop pirates, it was by no means an actual indication of a game's quality. There was plenty of crap out there with the Nintendo Seal of Quality on it.

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    2. Re:Trip down memory lane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The first game I had for Nintendo was two murderous games in one:

      One where you leave a trail of death behind as you fight to rescue the human oppressor that subjugates the indiginous fungo-sapien population.

      And the other where you blow the crap out of ducks and, after missing a few times, attempt to blast the smartass dog.

      I don't even want to think about the mass genocide in Metroid...

    3. Re:Trip down memory lane by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If by "pirates" you mean "people who wanted to make NES compatible games without paying the almighty N for the privilege" then you are right.

      Nintendo has always amused me with their business tactics. They are as conniving and controlling as Microsoft or Sony, but since they only seem to want to rule their corner of the video game world with an iron fist (rather than using that control as a lever to get into every aspect of the electronics world, like the other two) it has seemed more amusing than disturbing. Plus they have always been dedicated to making good, fun games.

      I still am a proud owner of Gauntlet for the NES that was one of the classic examples of a game made without the Seal of Approval. Ultimately a frustrating and boring game, still better than a lot that did carry the Seal (such as, say, Donkey Kong 3). I got my copy of Gauntlet from Toys 'R' Us, so I doubt it was "pirated".

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    4. Re:Trip down memory lane by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

      While I can understand N's reluctance to release an uncensored MK, it was somewhat hypocritical since the SNES version of Street Fighter II (which came out earlier) features the fighters vomiting blood in big streams.

      Actually, Nintendo forced them to recolor the blood as vomit in the first version, then relaxed their requirement for later releases based on fan pushback.

      At the time it was considered that Nintendo was being far too strict. If only we could have seen the slippery slope ahead of us.

    5. Re:Trip down memory lane by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The seal wasn't used to stop pirates, it was the lock-out chip. Witness Tengen.

      If you'd read Game Over, you know the seal was part of a program to keep publishers from flooding the market; it wasn't to keep bad games from getting through, it was to to keep a metric fuckload of crap games from getting through (ala 2600). The seal was Nintendo's PR way of telling potential consumers that it wasn't going to be the cause of another Dark Age of Video Games.

      Nintendo also had a strict policy of limiting the number of titles a publisher could release in a year. They could still get away with crap games, but then they'd have to rely on that crap game for income before they're allowed to have another shot at finding player love.

  7. Ahh! NES! by mister_llah · · Score: 2, Informative

    Top 5 Favorite NES Games

    Final Fantasy
    Solar Jetman
    Super Mario 2
    River City Ransom
    Super Dodge Ball

    ===

    I can't count how many hours I spent playing these games, sadly... mostly because I wasn't keeping track when I was 8-14, but also because it was a godawful long time.

    NES is dead! Long live NES!

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    1. Re:Ahh! NES! by HebrewToYou · · Score: 5, Funny

      How in the world can ExciteBike be left off your list?

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  8. Still Got Mine! by MageWyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gotta love the NES. Mine has been hooked up ever since I got it for my 7th birthday.

    It actually gets more play time than my Gamecube, PS2, or PSP...

    1. Re:Still Got Mine! by mrbobjoe · · Score: 3, Funny
      It actually gets more play time than my Gamecube, PS2, or PSP...
      The time you spend trying to get it to boot doesn't count.
  9. Boo. by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "By the end of the 1980s the courts found Nintendo guilty of anti-trust activities because it had abused its relationship with third party developers and created a monopoly in the gaming industry by not allowing developers to make games for any other platforms." -- Wikipedia

    All the fanboys seem to ignore that Nintendo broke the law repeatedly. When Microsoft does it, you guys pee your fake-lawyer trousers. When Nintendo does it, you pee your fanboy pants.

    Frankly, Nintendo did more to destroy proper homebrew gaming than a thousand Ataris helped to establish it. I look forward to their doom thanks to the GamePark open handheld gaming platform.

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    1. Re:Boo. by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Main difference is that Nintendo did it 15 years ago and now don't do it .
      Microsoft still are doing it .

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    2. Re:Boo. by Agilus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe if Microsoft reformed, these people would be happy to support them, too.

      There's nothing wrong with liking someone who was once a criminal, and has since reformed (I won't get into the merits of punishment). It's also silly to say that I should blame one person for another's crimes, i.e. the reformed person, because "he did it first!"

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    3. Re:Boo. by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What about IBM , I think they were a far bigger influence on MS or Bell even ;)

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    4. Re:Boo. by jdog1016 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know, regardless of whether or not thats true, maybe try finding an actual source to backup your claims, and perhaps even LINK to it. Wikipedia does not count.

    5. Re:Boo. by Iron+Clad+Burrito · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nah, that's typical kneejerk /. "M$" bashing. Happens ANY time Microsoft is mentioned. Most of them didn't read the article... jsut the summary,a nd started in with "blue screen" "crash" "insecure" "open sores rules" "just use linux!"

      These people will eventually die off from inbreeding, and if/when MS ever gets their act together, all will be forgiven.

  10. Top 15 games as posted by 1up: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Top 15 games as posted by 1up:
    15. Dragon Warrior
    14. Duck Hunt
    13. StarTropics
    12. Bionic Commando
    11. Zelda II
    10. Duck Tales
    9. Super Mario Bros. 2
    8. Final Fantasy
    7. Mega Man 2
    6. Contra
    5. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
    4. River City Ransom
    3. Super Mario Bros.
    2. The Legend of Zelda
    1. Super Mario Bros. 3

    1. Re:Top 15 games as posted by 1up: by Verity_Crux · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The frustrating thing is that Final Fantasy jumped in and followed the story-based model of Dragon Warrior, yet they have never come up with a story as good as Dragon Warrior 4, and Dragon Warrior 4 had replayability.

      The legend of Zelda and Metroid worked it on the maze idea. Modern games have wimpy mazes. Metroid required a notebook and mapping skills if you were to have any chance of beating the game before that expose' in Nintendo Power.

      Punch-Out required an item that seems to be void in many modern games: timing. You could never master the game without great timing. Modern games follow the more ammo and quicker reflexes ideals instead.

      I was trying to figure out why I enjoyed StarTropics so much. I remember it had great artwork and an intersting story. I think I enjoyed it because it was right on the border of frustrating and challenging.

  11. NES #1? Ignorance. by ziggy+the+zagnut · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's foolish, revisionist history to say that Americans hated videogames. Does anyone remember Pac Man fever? The album? It was a phenomenon. There was a veritable ton of Pac Man schwag (cheesy merchandise like bubble gum dispensers, keychains, Rubik's cube knockoffs, etc.) showing strong evidence of video games' pre-Nintendo dominance in American culture.

    I'm very weary of articles, especially on boingboing.net, that pitch Mario Bros. as the original videogame. You all should be making fan art of Yar's Revenge, Pitfall and River Raid.

  12. SNES by killermookie · · Score: 4, Funny

    While the article details about NES (which I owned including the Atari 2600), I remember the day I went out and bought the SNES.

    I faked a sickness and fooled my parents, allowing me to stay home from school. Once they left, it was a quick ride to the local Woolworth store (remember those stores?) and a $200 purchase later I was at home playing Super Mario World.

    My parents didn't have a clue.

  13. Super Mario Bros. Super Show by antdude · · Score: 4, Informative

    I noticed the article mentioned the cheesy lame cartoon series, Super Mario Bros. Super Show. You can watch that online on Yahooligans! TV for free. Even The Legend of Zelda cartoons are there.

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  14. ArticleS (yes, plural) Here by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Monday - The comeback kid: Commemorating 20 years of playing with power
    Tuesday - NES turns 20: EGM celebrates two decades of NES Mania
    Wednesday - Solid Gold: You picked 'em, we praise 'em. 1UP's top 15 NES games.

    And for the bandwidth savvy:

    Monday Tuesday Wednesday

    1. Re:ArticleS (yes, plural) Here by NattyBucho · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope, in the very beginning (in Donkey Kong), Mario was referred to as a carpenter. His profession was changed to a plumber with Mario Bros., so the article isn't entirely correct, but it's also not entirely wrong.

  15. Huh? by Vellmont · · Score: 4, Insightful


    The Atari 2600 had upset folks by flooding the market with bad software

    What? I had an Atari 2600 and I don't remember being "upset at bad software" at all. Was everyone else upset and I just somehow missed it?

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    1. Re:Huh? by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rotton 2600 games lived somewhere between ET and Custer's Revenge in the plane between unplayable and outright obnoxiousness. The system just didn't have enough oomph for Pac Man, Defender, or Star Raiders, but the 2600 version of Asteroids rocked.

      Keep in mind the time period. The 2600 was released in 1977 though the more common version was released in 1982, and games were limited to 4K IIRC and not even 1K of system RAM. The NES was released in 1987 IIRC.

      What they are describing is the console market crash of 1983. The parent might have not noticed this crash because games for the consoles were still plentyful, just the companies who made them folded and they ended up marked down to 5 bucks at Toys R Us. Remember the Adam, TI, Timex-Sinclair, Intelivision? Poof by 1984. Quite sad as all were pretty good products, well except the Timex. But there was much in the way of crap during that time as you pointed out, but a few gems here and there. For some reason though the atari 5200 and 7800 didn't become very popular, which isn't shocking as Atari's focus by this point was in a computer.

      Commodore and Atari stuck around for a good long while though... though the Commodore was very much stronger in the game department.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainmen t_System
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1 983

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    2. Re:Huh? by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Insightful


      The conventional wisdom (I am not sure if it is true) is that Atari made a huge mistake in letting almost any third-party release games for the 2600. There were hundreds of bad games.

      Yah, I know there were tons of bad games available, but blaming that for the crash is just nonsense. There's thousands of terrible games available for the PC. I recall terrible games being available for the C64. I don't recall either of these game platforms dying.

      All these platforms (including the 2600) suceeded because of the great games available for it. I remember playing a game at a friends house or in a store and knowing if it sucked or not. Word of good games travels fast. I don't know why the videogame industry crashed, but it didn't have anything to do with only sucky games being available. If I were to guess I think it was just out-competed by the games availble on personal computers at the time like the C64 or even the Apple II.

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  16. Tecmo Super Bowl? by elbenito69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find it hard to believe that Tecmo Super Bowl didn't make their top 15 list of games. Despite being the most unrealistic sports game I've ever played, it also manages to be the most pure fun.

  17. "Adult Gamers" by kevin_conaway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the influx of high quality sports games attracted a whole new class of people to gaming, the "Adult Gamers." These are the folks that have money to spend but only play games casually with their friends.

    Whichever system had the best NBA 2K or Madden game won the pack. The others followed suit.

  18. User base? by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Frankly, Nintendo did more to destroy proper homebrew gaming than a thousand Ataris helped to establish it. I look forward to their doom thanks to the GamePark open handheld gaming platform.

    Where can I buy GP2X at retail in Fort Wayne, Indiana (pop 200K)? How many hundred thousand GP2X units will be sold in North America? Is it worth it to port a game to GP2X given the system's expected small user base?

  19. Jaws..... by Sweep+The+Leg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did anyone ever beat Jaws? It's like almost 20 years later and I still can't kill Jaws at the end. Everyone I know has experienced the same. It's impossible. I've even tried looking up walkthrus and still he doesn't die. We've tried 15 different cartridges, still same. I can't die happy until I beat that game. Time to go summon the game genie.

    1. Re:Jaws..... by Castar · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think you're going to need a bigger controller.

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  20. Re:NES #1? Ignorance. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    PacMan was prior to the Video Game Crash. After the Video Game Crash, all the people who'd spent MegaBucks on Atari, Intellivison, and Coleco systems were left out in the cold with highly expensive hardware and no software to buy. A LOT of consumers became rather despondant over this, thus the line "Americans hated video games." It was so bad that Nintendo called the console an "Entertainment System" and marketed a Robot with it to keep people from thinking of it as Another Video Game Console(TM).

    Originally, Nintendo was also going to market a disk drive (which was available for the Fanicom in Japan) so that people could use it as a home PC. As it turned out, the market accepted the Nintendo well enough that they eventually ditched the whole "home computer" idea.

  21. NES inspired music by Neva · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are quite a few people nowadays, who have grown up with NES systems in their time, keeping the music alive in various forms. For instance:

    Minibosses
    Redefined - Nintendo A Cappella
    All Your Bass A Cappella

    ..and as a side mention:
    http://www.pressplayontape.com/

  22. Re:NES #1? Ignorance. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    2600 games didn't have to be like the arcade because our expectations were not yet so damned high. I had great fun playing the 2600 versions of frogger, missile command, pac-man, river raid, jungle hunt, and others.

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  23. Re:Antitrust by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dude, nice troll, but they did get nailed in anti-trust action.

    As always, the reason they got nailed was not because they were a monopoly, but because they abused that position to eliminate competition.

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  24. No Games? by miyako · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I was expecting to see a list of reasons why the NES was great...like yet another top 10 list or something, so I'll post one, here are my top 10 NES games I think everyone should play if given a chance (in no particular order).
    1. Dragon Warrior - the game that started the JRPG.
    2. Blaster Master - the first game I remember playing that had something like an Isometric view
    3. Super Mario Bro's 3 - perhaps the finest mario game ever.
    4. Bionic Commando - Robotic Zombie Hitler and a huge bionic claw, what more could you ask for?
    5. The Ledgend of Zelda - A classic by any definition
    6. Kirby - one of the prettiest games for the NES and a fine platformer- too bad they changed the formula so much for later games
    7. Castlevania - the first survival horror game, the controls are a little clunky but it's still a classic platformer
    8. Megaman - I've never actually beaten any of the Megaman games, but a classic if you like HARD games
    9. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II The Arcade Game - This is one of those games that's probably not great, but I remember it fondly
    10. Final Fantasy - The first in the series, a solid game but definitely different than today's FF games.
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  25. Unhappy with Atari? by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Atari 2600 had upset folks by flooding the market with bad software and, at first, retailers were reluctant to sell another system. But the NES was a hit, controlling a healthy 90 percent of the U.S. home videogame industry at the peak of its popularity.

    I don't remember anyone being upset by the quality of games on the Atari. Everyone I know, myself included, was amazed they they could have Pong, Pitfall, Frogger, Centipede, and Asteroids right on their own TV. It didn't matter that they sucked, because we had nothing to compare them to! They were new, innovative, and best of all you didn't need a pocket full of quarters and a ride to the mall. Maybe adults were unhappy, but I distinctly remember my friends and I having to wait (im)patiently while their dads would finish that last game of Pong (before the inevitable throwing of the paddle and the obligitory "God damnit, piece of $#@% fsking...!").

  26. Hot Air? by jimbonics · · Score: 2, Informative
    Some people blew into their cartridges when they didn't work to "clean" them to work again.

    The smart folk simply breathed hot air into them, thus forming a little condensation mositure onto the cartridge slot contacts.

    worked every time.

  27. My Mother by DrugCheese · · Score: 3, Interesting

    still begs me to find her a NES system so she can play her Dr.Mario and other games she was more addicted to then I being addicted to Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior. Although I've set her up with nesticle and a generaic d-pad, it's not a Nintendo controller so she doesn't like it.

    NES was a family tradition with us, after dinner we'd all sit around and play duck hunt or Mario Brothers.

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  28. Hated? What hate? by SpiceWare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nobody stopped gaming, they just changed where they gamed. The early to mid 80s was when home computers first became affordable. Everybody I knew turned off their Atari/Coleco/Intellivision game console and started gaming on their Atari/Commodore/TRS-80 computer system instead.

  29. Hot sex scene. by red990033 · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I was 7, I figured out how to unlock the hidden sex scene inside of Super Mario Bros.

    That three-some between Mario, Lugi, and the Princess was hot.

    Needless to say, my mom threw out my NES system.

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  30. Re:NES #1? Ignorance. by nunchux · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's foolish, revisionist history to say that Americans hated videogames. Does anyone remember Pac Man fever? The album? It was a phenomenon. There was a veritable ton of Pac Man schwag (cheesy merchandise like bubble gum dispensers, keychains, Rubik's cube knockoffs, etc.) showing strong evidence of video games' pre-Nintendo dominance in American culture.

    I was 14 or 15 around the time and remember it well. A few years before, everyone loved games. Every family had an Atari. Every mall had an arcade. EVERYONE played games. Even parents. And girls. Then, there was a crash, for whatever reason-- most likely because even the best games were limited and got boring fast. In 1984-5, if you liked video games, you owned a Commodore 64. The days of families-- or really anyone but pasty-faced geeks-- buying consoles and games was very much over. That is, until Nintendo revolutionized the market. Their games were light years beyond previous generation because they weren't just three screens of action that repeated until you died, they were fun and interesting worlds that could be explored. And unlike the typical Atari game that just got faster and faster on the same screen until you inevitably died, Nintendo games could be beaten and won.

    As for revisionism-- I don't think there's any shortage of Pac Man or Atari nostalgia, especially on the web. 32-in-1 Atari joysticks sell by the millions and I see 20-somethings in vintage game shirts all the time. Are you really trying to suggest that no one remembers that era?

    I'm very weary of articles, especially on boingboing.net, that pitch Mario Bros. as the original videogame. You all should be making fan art of Yar's Revenge, Pitfall and River Raid.

    I haven't seen many articles like that, but I'll believe you. But I think this is a key to why Nintendo is so beloved-- you don't give a shit about Yar and why he wants revenge, or what the River Raid plane's mission was. You don't really even care why Pac Man does whatever he does. Nintendo's games and characters-- Zelda, Mario, Metroid, etc.-- have a story and a soul. They may look primitive now, but at the time they felt like cartoons brought to life.

  31. Re:NES #1? Ignorance. by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "It's foolish, revisionist history to say that Americans hated videogames. Does anyone remember Pac Man fever?"

    You named everything that had to do with Pac-Man other than the 2600 port, and it was that game that helped America to learn to hate video games.

    Pac-Man for the 2600 sucked long hard pixelated bars.

  32. Re:A+B by deepcameo · · Score: 2, Funny

    ohhhhhh its contra time!

  33. Re:Unauthorized Games by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "why do I recall playing Tengen games on the NES that weren't liscensed by Nintendo."

    Lawyers. Tengen (among others) reverse-engineered the lock-out chip and then fought Nintendo in court until they were able to use their work-around.

  34. Sweet Mini-ITX mod by dslauson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    NEVER think about destroying a functional NES, because that would be sacrelige. If you happen to have access to a broken NES, check out this awesome mod.

    BTW, my top 5 games:
    1. Super Mario 3
    2. Metroid
    3. Zelda (The original, baby)
    4. Excitebike
    5. RC Pro-Am
  35. US Copyrights by cpu_fusion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Isn't it wonderful that 20 years later, those low res, obsolete games which many of would want to play as a trip down memory lane are STILL COPYRIGHTED, and will be for another 100 years or so?

    Intellectual property laws: they work so you don't have to.

  36. Modern Hardware for use with your NES by Jagasian · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are a few hardware projects out there, for increasing your enjoyment of your NES. One is a special game cart that lets you write ROM images to a NES cart, called the FunkyFlashCart, and then you can play ROM on a real NES. Because it uses flash for holding the ROMs, ROMs can be written many times to the cart. Similarly, it uses a CPLD in order to recreate the many different circuit-board types used in NES games. This is necessary because NES games lack a strong distinction between hardware and software common in modern games, i.e., NES games each include their own circuit board and ICs which must also be accurately recreated along with the game's ROM image in order to play the game. Note that the FunkyFlashCart is still under development, but will soon go on sale. No longer will you be stuck playing your NES games on a crappy inaccurate emulator!

    Another interesting device is actually a hardware modification for your NES called the "CopyNES". It has recently been redesigned, upgraded, and put into another round of production. Basically it is a device for ripping ROM images from carts, but it is also a ICE debugger for the NES, and it can even transfer ROM images to a RAM cart in the NES via a parallel port. The CopyNES has many other features, a favorite being the ability to play NSF files on the NES. NSF files are music ripped from NES games. Hence you can listen to your NES tunes on a real NES, as opposed to a NES emulator with poor emulation of the system's actual sound. The CopyNES is basically a circuit board that is placed between the NES's CPU and the NES's motherboard. This is how it is able to accomplish the ICE debugger features, as well as universal cart dumping, as it can force the CPU to do whatever you want. Here is the original site for the CopyNES. However, it shows an older version of the hardware. The creator announced in this thread that he will begin selling kits to mod your NES with CopyNES, and he will also provide a slightly more expensive service so that people can send their NES systems in for professional modification.

  37. Tales from the 8-bit era by realityfighter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, the story is a little funnier than that. Tengen tried to reverse engineer the lockout chip, but they couldn't in time to make their deadline. So they called the USPTO and asked them to send a copy of the chip spec, claiming that they needed the information for an ongoing legal case. The Patent Office gladly passed over the specs, and Tengen started making copies. By the time Nintendo had sued the pants off Tengen, they'd figured out how to disable the lockout by sending a small power surge to knockout the chip inside the system.

    Another funny story from the NES era is the tale of Wisdom Tree Games, the derivative company created by Color Dreams to sell unauthorized NES cartridges out in the open without fear of retribution from Nintendo. How? The company and the games were biblically themed, and the carts were sold in Christian bookstores. Nintendo didn't dare sue a company making bible games, for fear of massive PR backlash. So Wisdom Tree thrived in its technically-illegal niche. In fact, it's still around today and still printing carts for the gameboy color.

    The 10NES chip certainly made for some interesting stories.

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    A strain of paranoid prevention can be worse than the disease, whate'er the intention.
    1. Re:Tales from the 8-bit era by leland242 · · Score: 2, Funny

      When I was in college, we picked up the Wisdom Tree game "Exodus" at a used game store.

      With a save feature, it would have been a classic. Unfortunately, it was a 99 level game that might have taken 20+ hours to beat. We never did finish it. Though many purple haze filled nights were occupied by Noah whooping ass on the heathens and solving puzzles.

  38. Re:Not the same by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Every console manufacturer wants exclusive developers. Many of them have had them. Some of them have gone so far as to purchase the best developers and put them to work developing titles for their console alone. This will probably never change.

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    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  39. has been hooked up ever since by QEDog · · Score: 4, Funny
    Gotta love the NES. Mine has been hooked up ever since I got it for my 7th birthday.

    Maybe it is time to move out of your parents' house.

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    "There is no teacher but the enemy."-Mazer Rackham
  40. The ol' switcheroo by RyoShin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find it interesting that, to get their system onto shelves, Nintendo promoted the NES as an Entertainment System, rather than a video game system.

    Now, Microsoft and Sony are trying to push their next game systems as "Entertainment" (Media) systems, and Nintendo has been on the "we are a pure video game company" horse for a while now.

    If the Revolution sells, then I think we'll see Microsoft and Sony follow the lead horse again and focus on being "enhanced gaming machines".