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Apple Sells 1 Million Videos in Under 20 Days

olddotter writes "Apple has sold over 1 million videos through iTunes since the release of the Video iPod service. Personally I am surprised by this success, it raises many questions. Will this encourage more people to put their video content on the iTunes store? Is there a vast market for cheaper stuff at reduced prices? Why am I willing to pay more for music than I would for video?"

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  1. Great! by SerpentMage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now I wish that they would start selling the videos in stores OTHER THAN the US....

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    1. Re:Great! by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now I wish that they would start selling the videos in stores OTHER THAN the US....

      I actually think this is a good illustration of the fact that the copyright system is very broken. The theory of copyright is an author, band, producer, or artist creates a work and is granted exclusive rights to republish it. They generate money from selling copies, which encourages them to produce more works to make more money. One would then assume, if someone like Apple wanted to resell a song or TV show they would go to said band or producer, buy a license to redistribute it, and start offering it. This does not happen.

      The reality of the situation is the producers of work almost inevitably have to give up that copyright to numerous parties in numerous countries since various organizations and cartels have monopolized all the popular distribution and advertising venues in a given territory. In order to distribute a work in multiple countries Apple (or any other retailer) has to contact hundreds of organizations, negotiate hundreds of licenses and evaluate hundreds of separate business cases. This leads to most works only being distributed in one given country and a very segregated market. It also leads to most artists making very little compared to the middle men with the cartel. How could the system have gotten this fucked up? This is exactly what the drafters of the original copyright laws in the U.S. were trying to avoid, since the printing house cartels were so detrimental in Europe. I guess greed and money eventually will corrupt any legal system.

    2. Re:Great! by Ravadill · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Australian iTunes "Videos" section is a joke, it is a few music film clips and some old Pixar shorts, no TV Eps at all, and a severely cut back amount of other videos.

    3. Re:Great! by teh*fink · · Score: 4, Funny

      that's because it's not finnished yet.

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  2. Because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Why am I willing to pay more for music than I would for video?"

    Shelf life - even the greatest video will probably only be played a few times at most, while you might listen to a song hundreds of times over the years.

  3. Hot Damn by broody · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Imagine if they had some content besides a few television shows and videos...

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    1. Re:Hot Damn by mysqlrocks · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Imagine if they had some content besides a few television shows and videos...

      That's exactly what they're trying to prove to the movie industry. Apple is demonstrating that it's possible to do the same thing it did with Music to Movies. And the movie industry will have the added benefit of being apple to skip right past the bulk of pirating (if they get they're heads out of the sand).

    2. Re:Hot Damn by SlightlyOldGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

      My wife is a musician who self-produces her albums. She's now making more money through a handful of songs on Itunes than by selling her CDs. This great outlet is now (or should soon be) available to independant video producers. Watch out for the next Nick Park on iTMS.

  4. Oh the insanity! by LilGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would DEFINATELY download TV episodes and movies for $1.99 ANYDAY over music tracks for $.99

    Even when iTunes first came out I thought that was a bit pricey and that the price would eventually drop. Doesn't appear to be the case. But $1.99 for tv shows seems to be a good deal as long as they cut the commercials out, or at least most of them.

    This could usher in a whole new era for TV, and I wouldn't miss cable or satellite one bit.

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    1. Re:Oh the insanity! by op12 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This could usher in a whole new era for TV, and I wouldn't miss cable or satellite one bit.

      Which is exactly why it's only a matter of time before there's a huge backlash from these content distributors, much like the music industry is already against iTunes. Now, cable and satellite companies will be joining the fight. It's in their best interest to beat down this new method of content distribution for TV.

    2. Re:Oh the insanity! by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which is exactly why it's only a matter of time before there's a huge backlash from these content distributors

      Well, they are adept in hurting their own intersts.

      Funny thing is, they've fought against PVRs, and now most of them even offer one as part of the subscription.

      The broadcast, cable and satellite networks very often finance the programming they use, I bet they could stand to make more from subscriptions + video sales than they do with just subscriptions. They resisted putting their shows on DVD, but then caved in and many of them are making a lot of money doing so, be the shows new or old. I don't see why it is sensible for them to reject a deal to get listed in iTunes. They'll make more money (net!) per episode than with DVD sales, and only have a little bit of preparation and encoding work. I hope that this untapped potential gets exploited, though I'd prefer not to use iTunes as the conduit. I've heard it said that making a show like Enterprise could cost about $0.25 (US) per episode per viewer.

    3. Re:Oh the insanity! by Scotch+Game · · Score: 4, Funny
      I would DEFINATELY download TV episodes and movies for $1.99 ANYDAY

      Judging by your spelling of the words 'definitely' and 'any day', I think you could stand to be watching less TV. Dude, read a book.

    4. Re:Oh the insanity! by doublem · · Score: 4, Funny

      25 cents per episode of "Enterprise"?

      That's a bit steep, isn't it?

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  5. Christopher Walken Effect by tbone1 · · Score: 5, Funny
    And the #1 music video for practically every day was Fatboy Slim's "Weapon of Choice", featuring Chirstopher Walken. "I'm a hoofah at heart!"

    Something tells me that Kevin Pollak is owed a royalty somewhere.

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    1. Re:Christopher Walken Effect by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dunno why Kevin Pollak is particularly responsible for Christopher Walken's dancing celebrity. Christopher Walken has been doing excellent Christopher Walken impersonations for most of his career.

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    2. Re:Christopher Walken Effect by Frogbeater · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I noticed that too. Particularly because I worked on that video.
      I was the dolly grip, which means every shot in that video in which the camera was moving (except the one where he gets on the escalator) is me moving the camera (dare I say, dancing with Mr. Walken?)

      No royalties for me.

      But the iTunes store has validated that video as one of the greatest of all time.

      Here are some behind the scenes shots if anyone is interested.
      That would be me, standing behind the camera.

  6. Re:videos have sound! by osssmkatz · · Score: 5, Informative

    To clarify, music videos include a seperate AAC file with just the song, as well as the video. Perhaps Apple's "Watch your music" campaign motivated some people? --Sam

  7. Front Row integration? by mccalli · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A question for anyone with a new iMac G5 who has also bought a video from the music store. Do these videos integrate with Front Row at all?

    It's my (utterly unsubstantiated) belief that Front Row will appear in iLife 06, and that then a Mac Mini playing these videos on a TV will start to make quite a lot of sense.

    Cheers,
    Ian

    1. Re:Front Row integration? by Fahrvergnuugen · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes they do.

      Check this out.

      Here's the demo page on apple's site: http://www.apple.com/imac/frontrow.html

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  8. Could we possibly ask any more questions? by matt+me · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will it be possible for comments to continue this decaying monologue of uncertainty and doubt? Will I be surprised? Should all comments not related to the article but the amusing questioning dialogue be posted herein?

  9. vintage videos by rkhalloran · · Score: 4, Informative

    somebody posted this last week about making old 50s shows available for cheap. Sounds promising to me as a way of preserving the early days of TV. Heck, I'd pay a buck for old Zachary creature features.

  10. Doesn't Seem Like Alot by OctoberSky · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is this alot of videos? I mean, is this more or less than the number of video iPods sold. If its alot less than thats no great feat, if its double, well thats not a great feat either. Even if Apple was pocketing the whole $1.99 thats only 1.99 million dollars. That's not news by Apples standards.

    Also, anyone know the number of songs sold that week?

  11. Well, duh... by Pope · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why am I willing to pay more for music than I would for video?

    Because music has far more inherent replay value than video.

    Everytime some slashdork bitches about how a CD costs $20 for 60 minutes while a DVD costs $20 for 120 minutes or more and what a ripoff a CD is, I want to slap them silly; the two things have nothing in common other than size and shape. Unless you're some obsessive weirdo, I doubt you'll watch the same movie a couple of times a week right after buying it like most people do with an album.

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    1. Re:Well, duh... by pla · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unless you're some obsessive weirdo, I doubt you'll watch the same movie a couple of times a week

      So, not a Monty Python fan, eh?


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    2. Re:Well, duh... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And you somehow easily forget the fact that producing a singlevideo is easily 20-30 times more expensive and labor intensive than making an entire album of music.

      you make the point that the RIAA is trying to make everyone think, but a feature length movie makes all the music ever made by metallica seem like chump change in comparison.

      you can record and master an entire album with less than 10 people INCLUDING THE BAND. you cant make a movie with less than 30 people. (Grips, techs and film/sound is more than 2/3rds that number already and there are no actors, makeup, extras, special efx,security,etc...)

      and sorry, but a DVD has at least another 50-90% in man hours of content added to it on top of the movie.

      Other than pure unadulterated obscene greed, there is no reason that a CD costs more than a DVD.

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    3. Re:Well, duh... by pubjames · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because music has far more inherent replay value than video.

      So? Since when does the cost of an item relate to how many times the purchaser uses it?

      Car salesman: This car is $20,000.
      Man: But I'm not planning on using it very often.
      Car salesman: Ok, in that case it's $15,000.

  12. You're surprised? by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Insightful
    How can you be surprised by the success of the video iPod when there are enough people out there willing to pay money to change how their telephone sounds when it rings that it has become a $300 million-a-year business?

    In the world of wasting yer money on stupid, ephemeral stuff for digital gizmos, video on iPod doesn't even make it to the semifinals; at least you get to watch a 40-minute, commercial-free TV show for your cash.

    Be surprised that we're so happy to part with our money for valueless things, perhaps--but don't be surprised that the iPod video is successful at this game...

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    1. Re:You're surprised? by fiddlesticks · · Score: 4, Informative

      >it has become a $300 million-a-year business

      Go higher, and try between $1 and $3.3 Billion - worldwide.

  13. pay more for music by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Informative
    Why am I willing to pay more for music than I would for video?

    I guess pretty much for the same reason that you are willing to pay more for a movie sound track CD than for the DVD of the movie itself. The RIAA has kept the prices artifically high and you go along with it.

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    1. Re:pay more for music by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The RIAA has kept the prices artifically high and you go along with it.

      What does "artificially high" mean?

      If we are "going along with it," that means this is a price the market will bear, and thus the prices are not too high. Incidentally, music CD's used to cost more. When they were new things, they were regularly in the $20's. Then it was high teens. Now it is low to high teens, and sometimes below that.

      Also consider inflation, and you will see the actual price of a CD has indeed come down quite a bit over the years.

      You probably also think gas prices in towns affected by hurricanes should be kept as low as they were before hurricanes, thereby creating gas shortages, rather than letting supply and demand to its thang, increasing the cost of a good that is in short supply to naturally curb hoarding.

      The market is what it is. If you think CDs are "too expensive," don't buy them. If enough people agree, they'll come down in price or be replaced by similar technology that is less expensive.

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  14. Re:Please educate me, iTunes video buyers by jmelloy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because most tv shows are 90% dialog.

    Because you can use it on a train or airplane.

    Because when you connect it to a TV it's fine.

    Because you can pull something out of your pocket and show it to your friends.

  15. Comparing song sales vs. video sales by rsborg · · Score: 5, Interesting
    1. iTMS store opening sold 1 million songs in a week, not 20 days.
    2. However, video selection is MUCH more limtied than song selection when iTMS opened.
    3. Also, video probably assumes the purchase of a newer (video) iPod, since I doubt many people are downloading these to watch on their computer/tv.

    So what does this mean? Who knows, but it seems as if the videos are really damn popular. I'd kill, however, to see which ones were more popular than others...

    I think what'd be the real killer app for mobile video would be shorts like comedy, commercials, trailers, etc.

    Apple are you listening? Use what you have already, most movies push trailers, and most commercial creators would DIE to get their bits on the iPod, and there're some totally awesome commercials that are pieces of art in their own right! Imagine a vid-cast of bits from The Daily Show, or a 5 minute part of a standup routine, too.. great for showing people at lunch/etc.

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    1. Re:Comparing song sales vs. video sales by brundlefly · · Score: 4, Insightful
      3. Also, video probably assumes the purchase of a newer (video) iPod, since I doubt many people are downloading these to watch on their computer/tv.

      My first purchases from iTunes were this past week, when I bought some episodes of Lost. Slow day at work, no iPod, just my 21" monitor and my headphones. Thanks, Apple, problem solved.

      What does this say? It says that videos are more appealing for purchase than music for some people. And it says that full-screen Quicktime on a 21" monitor is a fine substitute for an iPod with a 2-inch screen.

  16. This is what I've been waiting for by JudgeFurious · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Once the content gets in there I'll be buying video from iTunes. That is assuming of course that the prices stay close to what I'm seeing right now. This fits in good with my desire to buy seasons worth of some shows on DVD but only a handful of episodes where other shows are concerned.

      I look at South Park, Dead Like Me, and my Battlestar Galactica fix and I say "Buy the season on DVD". My wife wants Buffy the Vampire Slayer seasons 1-6 and DVD is the way to go.

      I look at Star Trek Deep Space 9 and I say "Got to get me some DVD's.....HOLY SHIT CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT PARAMOUNT WANTS FOR THAT? MIGHTY PROUD OF THE STAR TREK AREN'T WE GUYS?"

      Then I think about it and there probably weren't 10 episodes of DS9 I really want anyway. Maybe 10 if I push it. 20 bucks for those 10 episodes and screw the rest of it because it wasn't all that good anyway? I'm in.

      Of course IF Paramount ever lets them sell episodes of Star Trek (and flavor) on iTunes they'll probably demand that they sell for $9.99 each or some insane amount of money that will screw the whole deal up anyway.

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  17. Re:videos have sound! by nick_davison · · Score: 4, Insightful

    $0.99 - Just the music.
    $1.99 - Music and video.

    For $30, given the choice between 30 great rock/metal tracks and 15 great ones with, yay, grungy guys running up and down a stage, I'd rather get twice the amount of music for my money and miss out on the bad videos. On the other hand, were Britney Spears more my thing, I'd likely want the videos, ideally without sound as, let's face it, her success was never about the music.

    Plus there's the amount of drive space taken up. Granted videos aren't available for 80% of album tracks but I've already filled clear of 30mb with my own CD collection. Apple doesn't make an iPod big enough to rip an equivalent collection if videos were available too.

    So, video's nice and all - espcially for some of the great music videos - but I'd rather save the drive space instead of having every last bland video.

  18. Re:videos have sound! by silverkniveshotmail. · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the one thing we can depend on when it comes to purchasing licenses is that the prices will never make sense.
    like why is a full song on itunes that I can have on my computer, ipod, and CD player as long as i'd like (though only for a limited amount of burns) $0.99 while a 30-second clip on my cell phone (through spring) is $2.50 and deletes itself after 90-days

  19. Re:I don't think it will last by meatflower · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh yeah...just like those MP3 player things. What a fad! Once those "gadget whores" filled em up they just tossed em aside...good thing they're not around anymore!

  20. Re:More? by piecewise · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I must tell you, I think iTunes is a great example of how it could change TV. I NEVER watched Lost (yes, I have cable -- digital cable with all the bells and whistles since it came with my apartment). But sure enough, I went on iTunes and for $1.99 I bought the premier... I was quickly sucked in, and my black 30gb iPod now has season one and all of what's available for season two. I'm hooked!

    And frankly, I'm spending about the same as I would have for DVDs in the store. Season one of iTunes is $34.99 -- I saw it in Target for the same. And yes, per download I'm paying more for season two, but I'm also getting it instantly. Spread out over time, it's roughly the same.

    I would have never gotten so into Lost without the iPod, so ABC is definitely right to say they're excited that this is a new way to reach a broader audience.

    I'm just amazed how great that iPod video looks on a television. Granted, TVs are crap resolution, but even on my 32" Sony it looks great.

    So if the iPod created a halo effect for the Mac, this iPod video will surely change the way we watch TV. It's already changed how I do.

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  21. Re:videos have sound! by ankarbass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "while a 30-second clip on my cell phone (through spring) is $2.50 and deletes itself after 90-days"

    Because that's what the market will bear! I just can't imagine what satisfaction one gets from buying a ring tone.

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  22. Shiny new toy... by thesandbender · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd say a full half of the gadgets I buy are shiny, new and fun... for the first month. Then they're relegated to "eBay" pile. I'll be more interested in seeing how their sales fare in six months when having the latest teenage singer shaking her bottom in your hand is no longer enough to make you the "cool guy/gal" in school. I tried video on my iPAQ and trust me, there are better, more entertaining ways to go blind. Speaking which, time to go shave my palms.

  23. Hmm... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm depressed about this.. I wanted this to flop so that Apple and the studios would be forced to give us more content, higher res, and less DRM... And I'm an Apple shareholder!

    Because, up until now, the studios had given us so much full-quality digital non-DRM encumbered content?

    Please.

    When they were already providing essentially *no* content, how would the first major commercial offering of such a service flopping "force" them to provide *more* content?

    Further, you think that they'll provide content with "less" DRM? (Are you implying you'll accept DRM, if there's "less" of it? Or do you really mean no DRM? Because if that's what you mean, you'll NEVER get it.)

    As to higher res, there's a problem here other than the content providers or Apple. And it's just a little one called "bandwidth". Before you go off telling me that you want to download your 1080i movies, even H.264 compressed, please explain how, even on the highest bandwidth home broadband connections generally available in the US, a 6 hour download jibes with Apple's strategy.

    Never underestimate of the power of stupid anonymous coward posts on Slashdot.

  24. Europe by Hrothgar+The+Great · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was on vacation in Europe this summer, and the people we were staying with had MTV on the television, and I am serious - maybe 80-90% of the ads were from a couple of different companies hawking mind bogglingly irritating ringtones. It was completely unbelievable. And it was always the SAME ONES over and over. Yikes.

    Considering how much I DIDN'T want to buy any of them, the only conclusion I could come to was that I must be getting old.

    Oh, and by the way, if you're in the US, like me, this is going to be how our TV is pretty soon too, since we're trying to play catch-up with just about every other country in the world in cell phone technology right now. Just you wait.

  25. Re:videos have sound! by branto · · Score: 5, Funny

    30 mb isn't much of a CD collection.

  26. ringtones by crimethinker · · Score: 5, Funny
    I just can't imagine what satisfaction one gets from buying a ring tone.

    Same here. I thought you were supposed to be embarassed that your phone went off in a public place and disturbed everyone else. Hello? Vibrate feature? But no, every 12-yr-old hip-hopster gangsta-rapper wannabe just HAS to have his phone blast out the latest crap from M. C. Pee Pants whenever one of his "bitches" calls him.

    Here's a tip: if I hear your phone sing (I use the term loosely) "pick up da phone, got some money comin' in" one more time, I'm going to introduce your phone to Mr. Sledgehammer. And then maybe your head, too. I figure I should get a medal for preventing all the crimes you were going to commit in the coming years.

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  27. Re:videos have sound! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    30 mb isn't much of a CD collection.

    It is when you compress at 8bps!!! I swear, you can barely hear the compression artifacts, and it sounds awesome through those killer speakers I got from (now, don't tell anyone my secret) those guys in that white van. Luckily for me, their boss .....

  28. I want to KILL AOL/TW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    for not capitilizating their assets. Open (the latest version of) Winamp. Open Open Media Library, click on "Winamp Video". You see 10000+ VCR quality music videos (1750 artists, top names). The same thing that APPLE is sucessfully selling at $2 a pop, AOL/TW has been giving away on Winamp for 5 years, except that Apple has a fraction of the # of videos.

    If AOL/TW bothered to figure out how to make money, they would (at least) team with Apple to SELL this content (currently, they're only making a token effort to make money by showing an ad before playing videos..which is annoying and ineffective). If they were very wise, they'd turn around an Itunes like client and partner with Microsoft, Sony and other Apple competitors and CRUSH them.

    I can't stand stupidity.
    [rant done]

  29. Re:2.5"? eew. by solive1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sure, it doesn't have the storage space than an ipod does, but it costs half as much than an ipod, and the screen is *much* larger (4.3" 16:9 widescreen).

    Half as much? The 30GB video iPod is $300, and the PSP is $250. How is that half?

    The 60GB video iPod is $400. PSP is still $250. Again, not half.

    Add a 1GB card for the PSP for approximately $100, and the PSP is more expensive than the 30 GB iPod and has 1/30 of the storage capacity. All of that for a bigger screen? Oh but you can buy the UMDs for $20 - 40. That's cost-effective.

    I have a PSP, but I have it for games (which aren't much to talk about either, but I may get the GTA soon).

  30. People, pay attention! Story not about iPod by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So many questions about why people would want to play video on a tiny screen. Why would they? I have no idea because I bought the video to play on either my computer monitor or TV! People who think the rapid sales in video are bolstered entirely by the new iPod are out to lunch and not putting on the long-term thinking caps.

    Vidoe capabile iPods are a non-story and a gimmick. The foot in the door to FINALLY buy TV on a per-episode basis is the topic at hand, and a far more interesting discussion.

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