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Bill Gates Donates $258 Million to Fight Malaria

klubar writes to tell us that Bill Gates has donated approximately $258 million to fight malaria. From the article: "Malaria research accounts for about one-third of 1 percent of the total amount of money spent on medical research and development, even though it accounts for 3 percent of all the productive years of life lost to diseases, according to a report released Sunday." Gates was quoted saying "The report confirms what has been clear, and that is that the world isn't investing nearly enough in malaria R&D."

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  1. Let's give a hand to Bill by Emperor+Tiberius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whatever folks may say about "The Evil Empire," this a true gift of philanthropy. Let's give a hand to Bill Gates...

    1. Re:Let's give a hand to Bill by stonedonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed. Gates is right, it seems like malaria is almost overlooked even in the media with all the focus on AIDS, cancer, killer bees, avian flu, anthrax threats, SARS, etc...

      That's because malaria, unlike those in your list, typically occurs Somewhere Far Away.

    2. Re:Let's give a hand to Bill by SnarfQuest · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...but he already took an arm and a leg...

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    3. Re:Let's give a hand to Bill by tabatj · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its the first thing he has ever done to _stop_ the spread of viruses.

  2. say what you want about his business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but at the core, this guy is a saint. I cant fathom the millions if not billions gates + his wife have contributed to humanitarian causes.

    1. Re:say what you want about his business by Danger+Stevens · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, the facts are fairly clear. If Gates wanted to win the hearts of people who could afford his software he'd fight cancer. Cancer is a disease of the rich because it's one of the few that we can't hide from behind walls of affluence.

      He's pumping money into fighting a disease that is known as a killer of the poor. It's mostly children and mostly in small, poor, non-computer-using communities where malaria is a killer. Piracy is rampant in Africa (a large center for malaria victims) and there's no real hope of getting them to fork out money to MS anytime soon.

      I would agree that he may be looking at the larger picture. But he's still being generous - you can't fault him for that. Paul Allen spent $200 million on a yacht that has two helicopters. It costs him $20 million a year to keep the thing and he's never on it. Gates has given $20 billion to fight aids and now this to malaria. Of the two, who would you fault as the selfish bastard?

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  3. Bless The Man by SRA8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know Microsoft (and accordingly Bill Gates) hasnt been the fairest of competitors, but lets give the guy credit -- he appears to have genuine goodwill. Business is business and Microsoft is far from the most evil. For those on a MSFT warpath, perhaps your anger would be better turned towards Halliburton, Bechtel, Exxon or the NeoConservatives -- they create far more death, destruction, and misery in the world than Microsoft can or will ever do.

    1. Re:Bless The Man by fortunate_monk · · Score: 3, Informative

      "There have been credible reports dating back several years that Exxon Mobil Corporation, along with its predecessor companies, Mobil Oil Corporation and Mobil Oil Indonesia (collectively "Exxon Mobil"), hired military units of the Indonesian national army to provide "security" for their gas extraction and liquification project in Aceh, Indonesia. Members of these military units regularly have perpetrated ongoing and severe human rights abuses against local villagers, including murder, rape, torture, destruction of property and other acts of terror."
      A statement from April Johnson's attorneys -- Lopez, Hodes Restaino, Milman & Skikos -- contends that "Halliburton/KBR deployed its civilian truck drivers into a hostile active war zone despite knowledge from intelligence sources that there existed a substantial certainty the civilian drivers, moving in U.S. military vehicles, would be ambushed by Iraqi insurgents and killed or seriously injured."
      Sorry I can't provide you with a numerical estimate.

  4. Borg icon appropriate? by epicstruggle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it really necessary to use the gates borg icon when he does something like this?

    Im glad that bill is using some of his fortume to help fight this disease. Africa thanks you.

    epic

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  5. Bill never was Mr Popular.... by Ribbo.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bill is a generous guy, although yes it is easy to be generous when you're not putting yourself out. I have a lot of respect for him tackling the important issues rather than the popular ones. (There are a ton of people donating to the charities in the headlines, just to get in the headlines themselves, Red Cross right now at number 1) Bill is going for the forgotten charities which are just as, if not more, important due to the devastation malaria has on the human population. As always, Bill is not being cool, and that's a good thing!

  6. At Least Bill Sees the Seriousness of Malaria by use_compress · · Score: 4, Funny

    Malaria causes more deaths in children under 5 years old than even AIDS. (http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/impact/) Bill is certainly doing the right thing and I'll feel a bit less dirty writing this post on a WinXP machine because of it.

  7. Re:just like all the other robber barons by jbellows_20 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't the only donation the foundation has made. According to wikipedia the foundation donates about $1 Billion a year. That's a hefty amount even for the rich Bill Gates.

  8. Anti trust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I still think it is wrong for Microsoft to get into the anti virus market.

  9. Re:just like all the other robber barons by Leftmoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Evil? Come on now, when it really comes down to it, he's trying to save a few lives; that's a lot more important than being a jerk in the business world. He was mean, got away with it and made some money, at least he's trying to do some good with what he's got and that's a lot more than most people, rich or not can say.

  10. Hundreds of Millions of dollars to fight Malaria? by dfenstrate · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That'll buy a hell of a lot of DDT, which is the only thing you need to eradicate malaria.

    Unfortunately, a bunch of overwrought environmentalists managed to get the use and manufacture of DDT severely restricted on the basis of some very bad science.

    The malaria problem has already been solved. We just need to allow third world countries to use the same solution we used before some trashy 60's book that cried about DDT softening eggshells.

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  11. Malaria deaths by dfjghsk · · Score: 5, Insightful
    At the end of 2004, 107 countries and territories had areas at risk of malaria transmission. Some 3.2 billion people lived in areas at risk of malaria transmission.

    An estimated 350-500 million clinical malaria episodes occur annually. At least 2.7 million die per year from Malaria.

    Malaria is responsible for one in four global child deaths. These deaths could be prevented by means which are simple, effective and available.

    So lets all give a hand to Bill Gates for helping prevent at least some of these deaths.

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    1. Re:Malaria deaths by Phronesis · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I don't care if those deaths occur in Libya or Long Island, Kenya to Kansas, Pretoria to Peoria. Do we need 'em all? Did we need me to live? Are we overpopulated?

      It's been consistently demonstrated that reducing infant mortality is the first step to reducing fertility rates and thus stabilizing population. It's no coincidence that population grows the slowest in nations that have low infant mortality. Check Joel Cohen's How Many People Can The Earth Support? for details.

  12. Reminds me of John D. Rockefeller by dananderson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Bill Gates reminds me of John D. Rockefeller. Both Rockefeller and Gates were despised when they were creating monopolies. Rockefeller is best remembered now for his generous donations for National Parks, libraries, and the Rockefeller Foundation.

    I think Gates will be remembered likewise for his good works in reducing the worst misery in poor countries. I think we owe a lot to Gate's wife, Melinda. He didn't do this stuff before he was married. OTOH, we wouldn't do it if he felt strongly for this also.

    I still don't like the Microsoft monopoly, but not all Computer billionaires are so generous and he doesn't have to do this. Thanks Bill!

    1. Re:Reminds me of John D. Rockefeller by ville · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually he has to do it if he wants to get any.

      // ville

  13. Re:Bill screwed up with the wife again by Petronius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Talk about witholding sex in exchange of "helping"! Shheeeesh.

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  14. DDT Limerick by zhiwenchong · · Score: 4, Funny

    A mosquito was heard to complain
    That a chemist had poisoned his brain
    The cause of his sorrow
    Was paradichloro
    Diphenyltrichloroethane

    Heh heh... from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT

  15. Good and Bad Steve and Bill by EuroChild · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After reading the article on steve jobs (http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/31 /0355254&tid=3) and now this on bill gates, I move that we should have two icons for each: good steve and bad steve, borg bill and... saint bill?

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  16. Re:Hundreds of Millions of dollars to fight Malari by Ether · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ugh no.

    See: http://kenethmiles.blogspot.com/2004_02_01_kenethm iles_archive.html#107570569615970184 . In short, the myth of agricultural bans on DDT preventing the public health use of DDT is demonstrably false.

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  17. Re:Bill screwed up with the wife again by pin_gween · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Well, actually, Ted Turner set an example for him. Said Gates
    Ted Turner, the founder of Cable News Network, set an admirable example when he pledged $1 billion over 10 years to support United Nations programs aiding refugees and children, clearing mines and fighting diseases.


    the preceding is a quote from philanthropy.com. The site also explains Bill planned on giving, just later in life.
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  18. massive DDT spraying is the solution to Malaria? by maynard · · Score: 4, Informative
    You source nothing to back up your assertion that DDT is environmentally safe, and then claim that the hundreds of millions of dollars would be better spent buying and spraying DDT instead of conducting research. I'll let a few organic chemists respond to your assertion of its safety. Instead, I'll simply note that spraying DDT is a recurring cost, that Malaria prone zones throughout the world which would require spraying quite large, and that (IMO) DDT is an old technology ready to be supplanted by something new. As one example of where modern research might go, I point you to this article (I'm sure a search would show plenty of others):

    Gene That Helps Mosquitoes Fight Off Malaria Parasite Identified

    Researchers have identified a gene in mosquitoes that helps the insects to fight off infection by the Plasmodium parasite, which causes malaria in humans. Anopheles mosquitoes transmit the malaria parasite to nearly 550 million people worldwide each year with these cases resulting in more than 2 million deaths annually. The protective gene was identified in a study conducted by a team of investigators from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health's Malaria Research Institute, the Imperial College of London and the University of Texas Medical Branch. It will be published in the Online Early Edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences the week of October 24.

    [...]
  19. opportunity cost by Quadraginta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the questions to ask seriously (and I'm not saying I know how the answer would come out, because I don't) is this: what would've happened if Bill Gates hadn't acquired all that money which he is now giving away? Where would it be? In the pockets of millions of ordinary folks, of course. And what would they have done with it?

    One possibility, of course, is that they would have frittered it away on DVDs and beer. But it's also possible they would have done a million individual worthy deeds of charity, such as buying some shoes to send a soldier on tsunami relief, who knows a little girl who needs them, or cooking a hot meal for a neighbor with cancer, or buying a textbook for an inner-city school that's short. Or maybe some extra money would've let a brilliant but poor student not drop out of medical school, so he would get the education he needs to invent the malaria vaccine that works for 20 years. You never know, actually.

    And that's the rub. Is the good that Bill does with that money necessarily greater than the distributed good that would have been done by the millions of original possessors if they'd kept their money because he sold his products more cheaply? I don't know, of course. You can argue it both ways: (1) Bill has time to study the issues very carefully before investing, make a single "strategic vision" and implement a cohesive overall plan, so maybe "centralizing" the charity decisions makes them better. Or, (2) Bill's only one man, he can't possibly have access to all the information all those millions of people at the "grass roots" level have, so their distributed "Open Source Charity" movement would make better, more flexible and effective decisions.

  20. won't you please think about the children? by jjeffries · · Score: 4, Funny
    This just proves what I've always said...


    "When you support Free software, you support malaria!"
                                                                  -me


    What the hell's your problem? Do you like dead babies? Do you???

    No, save the precious infants!

    or


    Yes, let's kill some babies!

  21. He also donated... by mandreiana · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...more than $1bn to fight cancer

  22. Bill Gates--Philanthropist by linumax · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can find the main article here.

    I have never been a fan of Bill Gates, the technologist. I don't harbor the opinion that Bill has made a great contribution to technology. Indeed, I blame Mr Gates for the absurdly bad PC user interface that we all have to put up with--and I don't just mean the Windows interface--I also mean the Apple interface and the two (for-chrissake-make-up-your-mind) Linux interfaces.

    By doing little more than slavishly follow innovations introduced by Apple and occasionally coming up with original bad ideas, Microsoft has put no competitive pressure on Apple at all to provide a truly usable PC interface. (When it needed to produce a brilliant interface, as per the iPod, Apple was up to the task). With Linux, it's worse. GUI innovation amongst the Linux desktop crowd has been so invisible that one wonders whether Open Source naturally evolves according to the principles of unintelligent design. It's all a mess.

    I have more respect for Bill Gates as a businessman. Admittedly Microsoft's power grew out of a monopoly situation, but Bill Gates was intelligent and focused in establishing that monopoly and outmaneuvered a swathe of competitors. It's difficult to fault it, although it's also easy to conclude that it has not been good for the IT industry.

    But never mind, there is an area of activity where, in my view, Bill Gates deserves genuine respect. A current article in the New Yorker provides a detailed account of Bill (and Malinda) Gates' philanthropic activities. Most impressively, Bill Gates is (unarguably) doing more for world health than the WHO itself. The simple fact is that the Bill and Malinda charity provides much more finance to specific world health initiatives than the WHO does--and it is managed (by Bill himself) as if it were a competitive business. It sets targets, invests and reviews progress. According to the New Yorker, at the moment Bill is doing what he can to combat Malaria--which is more deadly to world health than AIDS. The article is worth reading. Not just for what it reveals about Bill Gates but also what it reveals about the health problems the world faces.

    Detractors of Bill Gates may well maintain that with his particular pile of dollars it is easy to be philanthropic. Indeed with one tenth of his dollar pile it would also be easy. And indeed there are a few individuals that have such piles, but I don't know of any (with the possible exception of George Soros) that actively engages in the kind of activity that Bill Gates does. Hats off, I think.

  23. That's ridiculous by backslashdot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, how much money do you think he makes in Africa?? Over $258 million?? LOL! Sorry but piracy is rampant there. It's possible to suspect everyone of having ulterior motives no matter what they do. If you look with hateful, bitter, and cynical eyes, you can make yourself see selfishness in everyone's actions.

    "Mother Teresa liked feeling important and only helped people because it made herself feel good and needed"

    Most of the time when people believe such things, it is because they themselves are unable to feel charitable to anyone or anything. So they cannot understand when others do something charitable. All they do is throw stones rather than replicate or surpass the charity they criticize.

    After all, who wants someone they hate to be better than themselves?

    Bill Gates believes in helping people, and he has given a large portion of his wealth to helping these countries get out of poverty and disease. This is fact. The "Return On Investment" on helping Africa is multiple decades, long after he's dead. And even believing that Africans can be productive enough to provide a ROI to Microsoft is itself above and beyond everyone else's "Africa is a basket case" attitude on Africa.

    What someone does in business, however shrewd, does not mean they don't genuinely feel for those who are suffering.

    1. Re:That's ridiculous by david_anderson · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well said!

      My girlfriend worked for the foundation for 4 years, and I got to see the passion that Bill and Melinda feel for these issues. They have held those AIDS babies in their arms in those clinics in Africa. They really do care.

      I don't like how Bill got his money, but I have complete respect for what he is doing with it.

    2. Re:That's ridiculous by ipfwadm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It took a lot of persuading, pushing, cajoling, and other force from Melinda, Bill Sr. (and I believe they also mentioned his Mother, but I don't remember -- don't even know if she's still alive) to get Bill Jr. to agree to set up any kind of charity. ... So at this point, unless someone here wants to research it, we dont' even know if Bill Jr. ever donated any more to his own Foundation than his initial grant for seed money.

      First off, there's a difference between starting a charity and donating to charity. I haven't seen the speech by his father, but just because he didn't want to start his own foundation doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't actively donating to charitable causes, or that he isn't/wasn't charitable. I would bet that close to 100% of the people out there donating thousands of dollars per year don't have their own charities. Are they not charitable?

      As for his contributions to his foundation, according to Wikipedia, the estimated current endowment of his foundation is $28 billion. It looks like the initial endowment was $5 billion, so from that I'd say he's been contributing. They also claim that Gates has given one-third of his lifetime income to charity. Sure, given the billions he has, there's room for more giving. But I'm hardly ready to call him a scrooge.

    3. Re:That's ridiculous by Meddel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know what kind of philanthropy gives out less than it takes in and never more than ~5% of its net worth

      The kind that's intended to last forever, so that it can continue giving out 5% of its net worth in perpetuity.

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    4. Re:That's ridiculous by crmaddocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I suggest you look up "charitable foundation" and remind yourself of what it means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charitable_foundation

      The whole idea is that a principal is invested so that the recurring interest can be put to good use. It's a way of ensuring stable, sustainable giving. The fact the net worth of the Foundation is growing every year means they have more to give. In that light, 5% sounds about right (or even high) for current interest rates, don't you think?

  24. Re:Microsoft != Gates by david_anderson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bill did not want to get into the charity work till he retired. His mother had been after him since early on.

    At this point, he is very involved in all the major decisions and directs them on a daily basis. Melinda is there much of thetime, as is Bill Sr.

    Melinda goes on several trips a year to find out about the work that the foundation is doing, and the whole family has spent time in clinics in Africa.

    As for the funding, it is a foundation, not a regular charity. All the money in the foundation comes from Bill and Melinda, and they are still giving. Do you remember that one time microsoft dividend at the beginning of the year? They gave the entire dividend to the foundation.

    They really aren't in it to look good. The only tend to go public on their gifts when they want to bring attention to an issue.

  25. Re:Hundreds of Millions of dollars to fight Malari by John+Miles · · Score: 4, Informative

    Keep surfing -- there's a link in the comments section of that blog to an FAQ on DDT that's more convincing, better documented, and entirely in favor of the original poster's thesis.

    Based on the available information, I'm going to have to assume that Rachel Carson's critics are closer to the truth.

    Of course, nowadays, no responsible corporation would think of advocating the use of DDT... because the patents on it have expired.

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  26. Anything but more Mefloquine HCL! by Stephen+Maturin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm currently in a country where Malaria prophylaxis is required... recently we switched from daily Malarone tablets to weekly Mefloquine HCL tablets. "Malaria Mondays" are also known as "movie night" because of the really bizarre dreams this shit induces.
    One of my co-workers woke up in the middle of the night, standing in the middle of his B-Hut (basically a wooden tent, sleeps 8-10 with about 9'x7x per man), screaming his head off at nothing.
    Last night, I dreamed I was accosted by a giant rooster wearing a shaggy fur coat, a wide brimmed velvet hat, gold chains, and big gold rings. He was giving me shit for eating eggs, and was really pissed off at me. He forced me to sit on this egg until it hatched. When the egg hatched, it was a miniature version of myself, dressed like the rooster, and carrying a pizza!

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  27. Re:Moral Corporations by Burpmaster · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I hate how people seem to dislike most large corporations for the sake of them being large.

    And who does that? People that dislike most large corporations do so because most large coporations, in my opinion and theirs, do bad things. People that disagree with this view put forward the notion that we just hate the corporations for being large, because it's much easier to demonstrate a fault in that position.

    To debate ethically, they should actually address the criticism made of large corporations.

  28. vaccine in six years? by rishistar · · Score: 5, Informative
    According to the New Scientist...

    Malaria vaccine possible within six years
    11:18 31 October 2005
    NewScientist.com news service
    Shaoni Bhattacharya

    A malaria vaccine could be available within 6 years if new trials of the most promising candidate prove successful, say experts.

    Malaria vaccine research received a $107.6 million injection of funds on Monday, part of a $258.3 million donation from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for the study of malaria and its treatment.

    The cash boost will accelerate the development of an effective vaccine, says Melinda Moree, director of the Malaria Vaccine Initiative (MVI). The anticipated date for a vaccine could be as early as 2011. At one point what the world considered to be fairly unattainable is actually coming along quite rapidly, she told reporters. It is absolutely possible to make a vaccine against malaria."

    MVI will work with GlaxoSmithKline on the most promising vaccine candidate yet, called RTS,S, which, in trial in Mozambique, cut the rate of severe malaria in children aged 1 to 4 by 58%. This was the first time that a malaria vaccine candidate had shown protection against severe disease in children.

    The new series of planned trials will examine whether the vaccine is safe and effective when given to infants alongside other childhood vaccines. Research will then proceed to a phase III trial to permit licensing. The trials, to be conducted in locations across Africa, will have about 17,000 subjects.

    more at the url above.

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  29. The World mentioned this last week. by OO7david · · Score: 4, Informative

    The World (a PRI program) mentioned this in part of a larger story on malaria in Africa (WMA file, fittingly enough). The ultimate point was that as much as Bill is being generous in his giving, he largely has wanted to see it go toward technological improvements rather than simple things that work now (eg sleeping mats spayed down with repellent).

    It's a good listen overall, though.

  30. The Gift Horse's Tonsils. by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Informative

    First up Malaria is a "Tropical" disease, ie: found in the tropics, Australia has the strictest quarantine of any Nation, NZ and the Antartic are too cold.

    Second, Malaria is an "orphan" disease, ie: Drug companies do not see a future profit so they put little effort into research.

    Third, "evil" people sometimes do great deeds. As for "pushing & conjoling" have you ever noticed that is how most "leaders" operate?

    Fourth, this is exactly the kind of philanthropy that US capitialism has always touted but has rarely experienced.

    Last, Bill & Co have an impressive record of helping people who are largely forgotten by the rest of the world. No he did not start MS in an attempt to wipe out Malaria, but because of MS success as a publicly traded company, Bill now has the oportunity to do so.

    Projection: The fact that you can only see a self serving conspiracy on the part of MS says alot more about you than it does about Bill.

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  31. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation does good by hagbard5235 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While *Microsoft* tends to only engage in self-serving philanthropy (giving things away to enhance their business interests in the long term), I have to give kudos to Gates for his foundation. Everything I've ever seen the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation give money to has been a very important cause with absolutely no potential to benefit them or MS materially in any way.

    In particular, Gates has backed research into treating the maladies that vex the third world. These are diseases that do incredible harm, but frankly aren't commercially worth the spending medical research dollars on because the people they afflict are so poor. This is why a few hundred million here and there from Gates is such a huge thing. He spends the money that no commercial interest could ever justify spending to try to alleviate the suffering of the worlds poorest residents.

    Don't get me wrong here, I have nothing positive to say about how Bill made his money, but he does deserver credit for how he disposes of it through his charity.

  32. Re:Before we canonize Saint Bill: by Mr_Silver · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Out of all Gates' billions stolen from you and me and every poor person on the planet

    Last time I checked Bill had not deprived me or anyone else of anything, either physically or financially. Whenever I have bought something from Microsoft, I have handed over my money of my own free will and received something back.

    The reason people are fawning over his gesture is that he could have quite easily spent all that money on frivillious crap for himself. There are plenty of other multi-millionares who do.

    Irrespective of the tax perks that he gets, I (and plenty of others) would prefer that he spent his money in this way rather than on a space trip, a number of islands and a couple of yachts.

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  33. Re:There was one condition by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You missed out the word "honourary" - he isn't a "proper" knight.

    Anyway - most knighthoods are for services rendered to the governmant of the time...


    Actually, he isn't BRITISH either, so he can't be a REAL Knight if you want to get specific about it.

    But for some silly reason, England and the Queen thought his efforts were worth the title, even if it honorary and he doesn't get to be called Sir Bill G.

    Stick to what the guy is doing to help the world, for once get off his back, geesh...

    He donates more money than rich countries like the US for this type of research and care to the world.

    I don't care what you think of MS or Windows, this is about someone with money actually doing good with it, I wish I could say the same for other people in our industry with a large amount of company made wealth. So even if you hate Windows and Dell forced you to buy it at some point, it should make you feel better than it may have been your $80 bucks that went to help people in the world and not just buy another CEO(CSA) a new car.

  34. Re:There was one condition by lgw · · Score: 4, Informative

    You say "publicity" like it's a *bad* thing. No one suffering from malaria cares at all why Bill made the donation, or whether Bill is rewarded in some way. Altruism as a motivation doesn't matter - at all. Anything that causes more donations is a *good* thing. Period.

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  35. Re:There was one condition by localman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If it was, then Gates would have donated the money anonymously

    Why? Is there any disadvantage to doing it openly? Assuming it was pure philanthropy, what would possibly be his motivation to make it anonymous? It just doesn't matter. So there's no way to know if that was a consideration.

    Now, I'll go on to assume publicity was a consideration because in general people like to be recognized for their good deeds. And this is a good deed. And what is wrong with being recognized for that? If people can be recognized for their bad deeds (who wants those to be anonymous) then it should be the same with good deeds. It's only fair.

    Why are we so cynical now that even a good act is labeled self-serving if the person could get even a pat on the back for it? Oh Bill! You selfish bastard! You did something nice publicly! People might actually talk well of you!

    It's weird how bitter we all seem. People just love to hate.

    Cheers.

    PS - I'm a Linux and Mac user, so no motive here other than to give credit where credit is due. Oh wait! I'm trying to look generous and forgiving! That must be my ulterior motive! I'm such a self-serving bastard!