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More on Sony's "DRM Rootkit"

A couple of days ago we posted a story about Sony DRM installing a rootkit. Since then we have seen many more stories on the subject that I thought were worth sharing. manno gave us a link to the inquirer and salemnic sent us a page from the washington post. smallfries gave us one from PC Pro. It's nice to see this story not getting lost in the cracks since the implications are gigantic.

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  1. Hope it catches on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "infected with DRM"

    Love it. Great phrase. Maybe it'll catch on.

    1. Re:Hope it catches on by fireweaver · · Score: 3, Interesting

      mc900ftjesus (671151) wrote: "DRM." A bad publicity spin is a better way to combat DRM than actaully explaing it to Joe Sixpack. The word infected implies that it's bad, christ I've met people who think viruses are like human viruses (no one makes them they just happen). Leave the tech speak at home, just dumb it down to three words: infected with DRM."

      I would tell Joe Sixpack something like this: "Joe, if you try to play one of these CD's that's got that copy-protection or something else called 'Dee-Are-Emm' on it, it will put viruses into your machine that will not only fuck it up completely, but cannot be gotton rid of. That is because the record companies are in cahoots with the hackers and spammers to rip you off. Do you want to take that chance?" You might also want to add a little punch to this by telling somebody's sad tale of woe.

      I think he would get that, and I don't think it is misleading.

    2. Re:Hope it catches on by gerf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Infected with DRM"


      Again, I must state that whenever I clean a computer with Adaware/Spybot/AVG/Panda Activescan/CWShredder/ect, I'm now going to have to ask one more thing:


      "Have you bought and played any music CDs lately?"


      How sad is it that doing something so legal can become associated with other computer slow-downs as spyware/malware/adware. This is what is going to irk the general public, and hopefully get people to look at DRM a bit more closely.

    3. Re:Hope it catches on by MilenCent · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hmm... maybe we should get stickers made and pay a little visit to the local Walmart....

  2. Simple Solution: Boycott Sony to Death by snotclot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok sure, so boycotting Sony is not realistic. Or is it...? We can really do without them. Screw their stupid DRM'ed Memorysticks, we have our SD and CompactFlash. Screw their VAIO's, we have Dell and Taiwanese laptops.. Screw their TV's, we have better ones from other brands. Screw PS3, we have XBOX2 and Nintendo Revolution. Screw PSP, we have Nintendo DS. Once they get the collective shaft, well, other companies will think twice before pulling shit like this.

  3. Let us hope: by Winckle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That this sets a precedent, and that Sony don't wriggle out of this, at the very best it could point out some of the absurdities of the DMCA.

  4. Re:Sue by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Based on the grounds that it re-routes the windows instructions on how to play *all* audio CDs. If you remove the DRM by force, you lose the ability to play other music as well.

  5. Contains LAME code? by Sulka · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interesting.. Some reports Finnish reader of this news in Sektori.com (in Finnish) reports Contents\GO.EXE file seems to contain parts of the LAME player. Can anyone verify this? Is Sony distributing LGPL software on the CDs?

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  6. Sony is losing it by shanen · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I still stand by my earlier comments on this topic, but at this point it's pretty clear it isn't just a /. rumor. I used to have a lot of respect for Sony, but it's been pretty well dissipated over the years. Their decision to dump PDAs greatly saddened and annoyed me, but I've also had too many problems with their hardware to buy any more... They just couldn't handle the pressure of needing to have ever higher profits and being squeezed between their one low-margin hardware-oriented parts of the company and the high-greed software-oriented parts. Now they've completely trashed their own reputation, and I do feel morally constrained to sell my stock, too.

    I guess I'll send them a sharply worded letter first, but I really don't see any way that I can do any business with a company like this. Not even as a shareholder.

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  7. Is this necessarily legal? by hunterx11 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even if you do agree to give Sony the rights to your first-born child in the EULA, wouldn't this violate laws in some states, such as the Consumer Protection Against Computer Spyware Act in California?

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  8. Re:Sue by LurkerXXX · · Score: 5, Interesting
    There is no way for a normal user to remove the software. It comes with no uninstall program, nor is it listed in the windows add-remove programs.

    If you can manage to find the hidden software files and do delete tehm as suggested in the EULA, you will no longer be able to access your CD drive.

    Funny how no mention of those points are made in the agreement.

  9. How to beat this... by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As soon as you have agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of the EULA, this CD will automatically install a small proprietary software program (the "SOFTWARE") onto YOUR COMPUTER. The SOFTWARE is intended to protect the audio files embodied on the CD, and it may also facilitate your use of the DIGITAL CONTENT. Once installed, the SOFTWARE will reside on YOUR COMPUTER until removed or deleted. However, the SOFTWARE will not be used at any time to collect any personal information from you, whether stored on YOUR COMPUTER or otherwise.

    Emphasis is mine. Anyways, nothing is the EULA says that I can't just go and delete it. Sure, it may reinstall, but can't we delete it the minute we eject the CD? Can we write a script to do that?

  10. Anti-PC by vandenh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well Sony has all the reasons to mess with PCs stuff. They don't *really* want people to use their PC for any media stuff... Sony wants everybody to use custom hardware solutions made by Sony. PS3, PSP, Memory Stick,.....

    So messing with your PC looks like a good thing to do for Sony (especially since it also f*cks with MS).

  11. H.R. 2929 by spurtle15 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Has this passed? Is it applicable?

    (4) inducing the user to install a computer software component onto the computer or preventing efforts to block installation of a software component;

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.0 2929:

    If they used racketeering laws to go after the RIAA, why not antispyware legislation against this?

  12. Re:Sue by dangerz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sadly, most people don't care anymore.

    The other day, I was driving with my fiance when we got on the topic of cd's. She proceeded to tell me that there's this great cd that I need to get because the band is really good. I proceeded to tell her that I haven't purchased a cd for almost 4 years now because of my dislike for the RIAA. After explaining everything to her, she just got all flustered and said that she didn't care about all that crap. She didn't care that even though she paid for the cd, she didn't fully own. She didn't care about all the bully tactics the RIAA uses. She didn't care about any of that, she just wanted the music.

    I agree with you that the majority of the people just dont care. As much as I try and inform people of all the crap the RIAA pulls, it just goes in one ear and out the other.

    For now, I suppose I'll just continue on with my silent protest.

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  13. Re:Yes, this is bad by Renraku · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People are using Sony's software to violate the ToS of World of Warcraft.

    Something that they tried to HIDE on people's computers to RESTRICT them. People are now abusing it against Blizzard. Blizzard has 'just cause' to start a lawsuit.

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  14. Re:First4Internet by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I perfer my idea but sure, or you could take in an old box and drop it on the front desk and go "Excuse me, you've installed a virus on my PC via a Sony CD. Will you be removing it or should I charge by the hour at £X00(add as many 0s as you likee, but 2 sounds about right) for having to remove it via a repair guy (don't say you, it seems supicious).

    Demand compensation (for petrol to get there), the money to fix it and if they refuse tell them you'll take them to court for the damages (claim the box was used for something important like hosting websites and the rootkit has not passed some safety tests that all servers must pass at your company).

    Aww the fun of being a sick little geek :D

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  15. Other affected CDs by vmxeo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I showed the last to one of my coworkers, who immediately started worried about a recent Switchfoot CD he played on his machine. Sure enough, not only did the CD have DRM on it, but it seems to have installed the same rootkit as the example given in the Sysinternals website. Which of course makes me wonder, how many CDs did Sony put this into?

    I'm starting to think it'd be worthwhile to create a domain policy to prevent this malware from running on any of our network machines....

  16. My Letter to Sony by macklin01 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hello.

    I have just learned about the malware that Sony has started to add to "compact disks" (in quotes, because Sony breaks the CD standard) via poorly-written DRM software from First4Internet. It is simply unconscionable that Sony would resort to such unethical lengths to prevent the pirating of a software. In fact, criminal trespass comes to mind, given that the software differs from what is described in the EULA and non-removable.

    I'm outraged at this behavior demonstrated by Sony, and I can assure you that I am no longer a Sony customer. In short, although I am a computer enthusiast/technologist who builds his own systems and enjoys gaming, and although I am a scientist who uses high-end computing resources on a daily basis, I won't be purchasing any of the following from Sony in the next few years:

    1) Stereos and portable audio equipment
    2) Flat screen televisions, plasma TV's, etc
    3) High-end computer LCD monitors
    4) Laptop computers
    5) Computer CD and DVD drives
    6) Sony-branded CD, DVD, and floppy disk media
    7) PlayStation 2 or 3
    8) PlayStation Games
    9) PlayStation Portable

    and needless to say,

    10) Sony and BMG music.

    If you break standards on DVD equipment, add Sony and Columbia TriStar movies to that list.

    Thank you for making my future purchase decisions so much easier.

    Sincerely,

    ****

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  17. Re:Maybe Sony Should Print This On Their CD's.... by Jussi+K.+Kojootti · · Score: 4, Interesting
    They do... This is their Minimum system requirements for content protected discs:
    To listen to the music on this disc, you need a PC with the following minimum system requirements:
    • One of the following operating systems: Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 SP4, XP Home or XP Pro
    • Pentium II or higher with Windows 98SE, Windows ME
    • Pentium III or higher with Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP Home, Windows XP Pro
    • at least 64MB RAM above recommended OS memory level
    • CD-ROM/DVD-ROM disc drive
    • Internet Explorer 5.0 or higher
    • Microsoft DirectX 9.0 or higher with non-Windows XP systems (download)
    • Logged in with Administrator rights
    .. you need to be root to listen to music. Just amazing.
  18. List of affected CDs? by Timo_UK · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is there a list of CDs that are affected, except the one Mark Russinovich used.

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  19. Never forget... by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "So, technically they are in the clear..."

    In the good ol' USofA, there is no technically clear in civil litigation. All you have to prove is something as simple as your reasonable expectations. Doesn't matter what the EULA says or if they did anything illegal.

    IANAL, but it is my impression that in the eyes of the US courts, you not only have to follow the letter of the law, but you have to ensure that you are conveying a reasonable perception about what your product does. That fine print means nothing if the court finds it too difficult to read, or makes unfair claims (ie - By installing this, you transfer ownership of your computer to us... which is what a rootkit comes closest to without physical possession.)

    Civil cases aren't really about the law. They're about damages, and a propoderance of evidence (more than 50% in your favor... a lot less than the reasonable doubt standard of a criminal trial). It may not be against the law for you to spraypaint your trees pink. But if I'm your neighbor and plan on selling my home, I have every right to sue you for damaging the property value of my home. Getting a few other neighbors to testify, and it'll win just on proponderance of evidence.

    IMHO, I'd sue the hell out of Sony in a class action lawsuit. Look at it this way: you may not win a lot of money each, but it'll probably be enough to repurchase that CD and a few others with no DRM.

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  20. Sony in violation of DMCA? by softcoder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If SONY circumvents the security I have installed on MY machine with their rootkit are THEY in violation of the DMCA?

  21. Re:Deal with the devil... by Arcys · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder how ms, mac and winamp feel about this anti-competitive behaviour against music players?