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GUBA makes Usenet search easy as Google
ChipGuy writes "Despite the growing popularity of p2p networks,Usenet is the real treasure trove of multimedia content including vintage cartoons, westerns and popular television shows. Nearly two terabytes of data is added everyday to Usenet. GUBA, a seven year old San Francisco company is making it easier to find the information on Usenet through the browser. Its like " Google for Usenet," says this report."
So.. they've invented deja/google groups?
ontday alktay abouthay usenethay!
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At $14.95 a month I don't really see how this place is any different than Easynews or UseNext. Doesn't seem like all that new an idea, and certainly the price doesn't lead me to believe I'm any better off than these other services.
Is there something that reading the article and checking out the site didn't make obvious?
GUBA is a pay-for service, yet for some reason the summary neglects to mention this. Call me cynical, but when something as fundamental as that is missed out, I start thinking "advert".
It's official. Most of you are morons.
is NewZbin.
God bless the creators.
You're nothing; like me.
So much for flying under the [RI|MP]AA's radar. I just can't wait until they start issuing subpenas and crapflooding the MP3 and multimedia groups.
No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
And what is google groups exactly?
A way to search *text*
Usenet right on google, and it is searchable.
Except that it doesn't include pictures, music, and videos. Try searching google for alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 and see what you get.
Although I have a hard time picturing how these guys are gonna stay alive once the MPAA/RIAA finds out about them.
If you have an internet connection, you probably also already have access to newsgroups. Buy NewsRover and search 'till your heart's content. (And you don't need to pay $14.95/month to do it)
Since others will probably mention google groups, I'll just mention that google groups doesn't search for binaries whereas this is geared towards a binaries search. If this service was free I would probably use it. But it's not so I'll continue to use my new reader.
GUBA is a commercial porn site that masquerades as a Usenet archive. It's been around for years, and certainly isn't as comprehensive as Google Groups. The linked "report" is just a blog post.
Any particular reason why this got posted? Did the editor get free membership in return?
Let's start a business that publicizes the terrabytes of warez on Usenet. Yeah, that's a real smart move.
Yeah, because Easynews and the hundreds of companies like them were shut down so fast for the exact same thing.
Oh, wait. They weren't.
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Is this news? This site has been around for a long time. Why now on /.?
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Funny me, I thought that google for usenet was Google.
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It's just one of many commercial USENET-binary services.
Yawn.
Mod main story down: Not newsworthy
I can't see any worthwhile features offered by this service for the $15 per month that you would pay. All of the major usenet providers (Giganews, Easynews, and Newzbin are just a few that I have experience with) offer similar search services. Not only do they include images and video (which, so far, is all this GUMA service would provide), but also every binary posted to Usenet. Why would you pay an extra $15? For the video conversion features? (which is actually kind of neat, but I'm sure most people can simply download and play any videos they find if they want to see them).
The other problem is that the article does not mention who actually provides the content. Will GUMA be hosting their own NNTP servers? What kind of retention will it have, and can it compete with the 55+ days offered by the big providers?
Maybe, just maybe, some potential customers would be those who just heard of this "Usenet" and want a famailiar interface to it all. But sooner or later, they should realize that they can get so much more for little to nothing in extra costs per month.
Yeah, because Easynews and the hundreds of companies like them were shut down so fast for the exact same thing.
The difference here is GUBA is shouting from the rooftops that they're hosting copyrighted files. Easynews, Giganews, etc., all kept it relatively obscure, just saying "we index all of Usenet" which was understood by smart users and generally ignored by everyone else. Now all of the basic users who are just now figuring out how Bitorrent works are going to say, "Wha? I can get music and movies on Usenet?" and, frankly, where the basic users go, so goes the RIAA.
The difference, according to this article is that they don't allow you to search for, or download MP3s or videos over 70 minutes.
I think I'll stick to EasyNews. It's cheaper, they don't log what I download, and they have an awesome web based search taht works well with FlashGot.
Also, after reading the linked article, their CEO sounds pretty clueless. They are blocking the MP3s because the RIAA has been so agressive about enforcing copyright, but will be leaving on TV shows because "the TV guys seem to understand the Internet..." I'm giving them a month or so before they're sued into oblivion.
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What's up with this ad for GUBA??
Easynews kicks the crap out of GUBA and is cheaper. We have
a better global search, carry over 100TB, bigger/faster gigE
pipes, even unrar and thumbnail your svcd's!!
So I ask, what's up with this ad?
-- godzilla
The real difference is that P2P has a source, a bottleneck. You can shut down one group or one server and the problem goes away.
Usenet is almost as distributed as email, and just as old.
Shutting Usenet down will be like trying to catch a fart in the wind. You may get some of it, but you'll never get all of it, and it won't be easy.
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I hate you guys. Just shut your dirty mouths.
GUBA has been around for a long time by internet standards (1998 according to the WHOIS record). It has also been a pay site for as long as I can remember. I think they popped up about the time independent providers charging for Usenet hosting also appeared.
Did they change their interface? Is it faster? Why is this new?
There are other sites for finding recent Usenet binary postings. However, they all link to some level of intrinsically non-public binary information (just like GUBA, or BT for that matter). One would be better off looking for them on their own, rather than resourcing Slashdot for that information.
Slashdot keeps finding ever more creative ways to get the words Google on its front page. This story really has nothing to do with Google yet they managed to google it up.
:) ....
Really makes me wonder just how much Google stock did they buy anyway??
Google
The ONLY differences between Guba and any other service is that it has a slightly better categorization system and a better looking design. Nothing to see here, move along.
You say things that offend me and I can deal with it. Can you?
Bittorent only works well if the content is popular. Try to download something old or obscure sometime. 5 megs, one seed and no leachers, and I supposed to wait 10 hours for the download? Now that's silly and wildly inefficient.
I've always wondered why the RIAA doesn't go after this. I appreciate the structure of usenet means that the newsgroups can't be shut down, but surely they could sue ISPs and posters based in the US. Is there some technical or legal reason, or is usenet just too far away from the mainstream?
Two words: Common Carrier. It's the same reason the phone company can't be held liable for obscene phone calls. As long as you carry everything without blocking, you can be (legally) ignorant of what's there. The poster, however, can still be held liable. And posters have, in fact, been prosecuted for their usenet postings, generally for illegal content though, not copyright violations...
Whats up with your ad?
Can we at least get some props for transcoding all the videos into flash? You can always get the original (even from some other Usenet provider, you cheapskates), but if you just want to see the damn video without having to dork with different codecs or players, you can't beat it.
;-))
Eric...
(and no.. nobody at Slashdot got a free account for this post... but we'd be happy to hand them out..
At the risk of sounding like a salesman like the article, Unison on OS X is probably the greatest Newsgroup client by far. I've used clients on Windows, Linux, and OS X, and this is the only one I've found that takes the globs of files for a certain "file", and groups them. So you just see one item to download, and not a few hundred. Although you still have to wait for groups to download, this view is very similar to indexing services like Guba and newzbin in which you get a nzb file that gives a single thing to download a "file". I really don't get why others have not implemented a similar view in their clients.
In undeveloped countries, the consumer controls the market. In capitalist America, the market controls you.
You're not paying to pirate. You can do that on your own without spending any money. What you are paying for is "advanced piracy-related services".
My other first post is car post.