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Linspire CEO Offers S. Korea To Replace Windows

Spy der Mann writes "Noticing the Microsoft threat to withdraw Windows from South Korea, the Linspire CEO, Kevin Carmony, just offered to license every computer in the country with Linspire, for just $5m. This would be around 10 cents / person. 'South Korea could save around a quarter of a billion dollars. More importantly, however, it would break South Korea loose from the monopolistic grasp of Microsoft, which the country currently finds itself under,'"

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  1. A mixed bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I'm sure the slashbots will shout and cry about the virtues of linux (despite being Linspire), it sounds more like a grab for attention than anything serious. While I'm sure Carmony could make a bundle on the deal, could he really support all of South Korea? I wonder if he even has a team of translators for the major world languages to begin with!

    1. Re:A mixed bag by rvw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Relax man! Carmony is just doing his job. And Koreans are smart people, so most of the support will be from local companies, probably the companies that now give support on Windows. The change won't be overnight.

    2. Re:A mixed bag by fhic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And, of course, Linspire is nearly useless without the Click-N-Run subscription service. (CNR is Linspire's slick automated apt-get functionality.) TFA makes no mention of whether he's planning to give that away too. I would suspect not. All the other recent Linspire giveaways have not included CNR, or have included very brief trial runs.

    3. Re:A mixed bag by bigman2003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Move to Korea = $$$
      New hardware to handle the load = $$$
      Big pipes to service traffic = $$$ (even in Korea)
      Cost to maintain data center = $$$

      Like I said...$5 million doesn't go too far when you have to set up that type of infrastructure.

      They're not talking about something small here - they're talking about supporting an entire country. You can't do that from your mom's basement.

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  2. Nice marketing stunt by IdleTime · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really, that is all it is. I like Linux as much as other people, but I don't think South Korea, as a whole, is going to jump on this just as I really don't believe MS will pull out of South Korea. It's all marketing and jocking for positions. There is no way that MS will leave South Korea, one of the most advanced industrial nationas around and a lot more advanced than USA. Oh no, MS will never leave South Korea, it means too much to them.

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    1. Re:Nice marketing stunt by Lucractius · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MS would either become a web services company. or a Linux vendor before they died, theyre too big to just disapear so simply... theyll find a way, even if its by Forking a BSD to build a 100% linux compatible system or something... they could do it with their resources.

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  3. Re:I've got a better offer. by imr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've got a better offer.
    What about they try to find a local solution that will be better localised, that will have local support, that will create jobs, that will keep their cash inside the country, all this meaning that it will help develop a local well adapted independant IT which will benefit their country as a whole?

  4. Bah by bugbeak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Korea is too tied to MS for anything like this to happen any time soon. Ironically, with the exception of the Xbox, and MS Office, just about everything else Microsoft has a strong grip here. Major websites are designed for IE, Palm is hardly popular, Apple is only used by some 20K people, etc etc etc. There will be repercussions if MS has to back out of the OS market.

  5. That is EXACTLY what Linux needs by RoLi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Linux needs M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G

    Just look at Mozilla and Firefox and you see what a difference a little marketing can make.

    1. Re:That is EXACTLY what Linux needs by neillewis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd never buy Linspire, but you have to admire the chutzpah. Someone needs to call Microsoft's bluff, even if the reality would be that 90% of S. Korea would rather pirate Windows.

      Ubuntu seem to be successfully marketing their distro at Mac-coveting, Greenpeace-supporting students, we need more of the same. Bring it on...

  6. Re:Certainly.... by nath_de · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This would definitly increase the chances for games on Linux:
    • South Koreans game a lot.
    • South Koreans game with PCs (as Consoles where illegal till last year)
    • So they will continue to need current games for the OS they use.
    Sure, the currently installed Windows base won't vanish, but the change would happen when games start to require Vista.
  7. Re:Opportunistic by Ithika · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "By it very nature, an OS that is user friendly and uniformly installed cannot be Open Source."

    I take it you hold MS Windows to be a user friendly operating system. Sp does that mean if (thought experiment) Windows were to be open-sourced it would suddenly become user-unfriendly?

    Or were you just trolling?

  8. Just this?!! by linumax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This would be around 10 cents / person. 'South Korea could save around a quarter of a billion dollars.

    Right, and how much would be the cost of Win->Lin transition? Training thousands of people? Porting millions of lines of code? Translating all the stuff? and so forth. Whoever told this must take a look my signature!

    1. Re:Just this?!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's not really a problem when you're talking about a government - sure they'd be spending money but they'd also be reducing unemployment, improving their economy and technical base, and gaining political capital (assuming it goes well). Spending money within the country is much better than spending it importing software.

      The task of porting *everything* would be very daunting, but I don't think they're going to throw out existing Windows installs, just stop new copies being imported.

  9. Re:Support? by canuck57 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He's going to provide support for 50 million computers at 10 cents each?

    Poor journalism, it was for licensing not support.

    Microsoft pulls stunts, why should not Linspire. Who knows, it might work. If it does not it is free publicity.

  10. Free publicity, and not too shabby a deal by pvera · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It was a bold move, and it did not cost him a penny to do it. If he pulls it off he'll be 5m ahead of where he is right now, since his market share in ROK is pretty much zero. If he pulls it off he also gets to use it as a precedent to go country-by-country offering blanket licenses, which will make Linspire some good money and will royally piss off Microsoft.

    Regardless of the merits of Lindows v. all the other Linux distributions out there, this is all about marketing, and it was the right thing to do. Microsoft cannot even afford a counter offer, since this will set the same kind of precedent and every government in the world is going to demand a blanket license like that.

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  11. humbug! Free software blows M$ away in Korea. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Oh yes, the famous Microsoft support and dependency. Those have been so wonderful that the South Korean government has been moving to Linux for years. It might be over the stench created when M$ paid Hana twenty million bucks to not develop Korean language programs back in 1998. Let's have a look at what software people are doing for and in Korea:

    The quesion is, can a single company do as much as an entire country can on it's own? I doubt it and so does Microsoft. Why else would they buy off their competition? They should have all confidence they will prevail without such tricks. The trend outlined above indicates they have no such confidence and can't really keep up.

    The screenshots above speak for themselves, even if your browser does not support the characters a default install of Mepis does. The Microsoft programs are unmodified English language programs. Free software has Korean character support and translations that Koreans are giving themselves. It's difficult to see how M$ can maintain dominance without doing more than writing korean language how-to's.

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  12. Very nice... by danielk1982 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Its a nice publicity stunt by Linspire. But lets be serious here; a 100% to Linux (Linspire) would be devastating for S.Korea (and for Microsoft's image abroad). It won't happen.

    Besides S.Korea has a huge gaming culture and within 12 hours of moving to Linux you would have thousands of teenagers shivering from game withdrawal symptoms.

    Anyway, Microsoft is an easy target to push around and this is another money EU-style money grab. I mean, first it was the media player that was the big problem, and now MSN Messenger (or rather the really crappy Windows Messenger as MSN has to actually be downloaded). I'm still waiting for the SP2 Firewall lawsuit and the Disk Defrag lawsuit. Why not? Its Microsoft after all and, everything is fair game. Ridiculous.