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Rejected Xbox 360 Prototype Designs

Matt writes "Next-Gen.biz has published the second set of prototype designs that were considered, but ultimately rejected, for the Xbox 360. Note the distinct similarities to the final design actually chosen." I wonder if I'm alone in just wishing that consoles looked like stereo components and fit in my rack without scary balancing acts and lopsided aesthetics. A Gamecube, PS2, and X-Box can not be stacked nicely.

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  1. Sure they can. by Leon+da+Costa · · Score: 5, Funny
    A Gamecube, PS2, and X-Box can not be stacked nicely.

    Sure they can. Have you never heard of duct tape?

    1. Re:Sure they can. by B3ryllium · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, they filmed the final episode for that show a few days ago.

      End of an era. :(

  2. Marketing by Poromenos1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A Gamecube, PS2, and X-Box can not be stacked nicely.

    It doesn't help with the marketing, I imagine. They want each console to be (and LOOK) different than the others, to have its own character. This is not as important for stereo components.

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    1. Re:Marketing by Windsinger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The target audience is also a big consideration; these things are largely marketed to teenagers first and foremost, besides us nerdy 30-something losers who still play games. :)

      So the look of a console, the coolness factor, is a concern. I thought the Gamecube was well thought out for this, it had a handle on it even! The person who designed that obviously did NOT forget their childhood.

      Oh yeah this site got ./'d already. Mirror plsokthxbbyelolroflcopterbbq!

    2. Re:Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      And the words we're using to describe the things are another clue. A "component" is supposed to be part of a larger system. It implies that the separate things should coexist nicely as a unit. A game system is supposed to be the center of attention all by itself.

    3. Re:Marketing by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The person who designed that obviously did NOT forget their childhood.

      I think that was more of a problem than anything. People saw the design and thought it was childish, whereas they saw the PS2 and XBox and thought of them as more "mature" consoles. Since the aforementioned teenagers and 30-something losers are the ones buying most of the consoles, the childish design didn't fare as well.

    4. Re:Marketing by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, the handle on the GC is something that's really nice. It shows that they encourage you to bring it with, you, and that they thought you might actually want to do that. With the XBox, the thing is really heavy, and big, and not meant to be brought with you. It's meant to sit under your tv. Are people aware you can hook up 2 GCs to two TVs, and play 8-way mariokart? Whoever thought internet multiplayer is the best should really try some real multiplayer games, with people in the same room. This is the same reason why lan parties are so much more fun than just playing against your friends over the internet.

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    5. Re:Marketing by badasscat · · Score: 3, Informative

      The only big mistake in the GC design was the original color. It just looked silly. A black GC looks fairly sleek and cool. I'm not entirely sure who that pastel purple was supposed to resonate with.

      It is (or was, not sure if it still is) Nintendo's "house" color since the early 1990's. And it's not purple, it's "indigo".

      The stock SNES and N64 both had indigo accents. The base Game Boy Color was also indigo (there was also a clear indigo model, which is the one I have). Nintendo also used that color for their logo for a while (though not consistently). The official Game Boy logo is still indigo. It was/is a branding thing.

      Whether you do or don't like the color, I think almost everybody who knows games identifies that color with Nintendo, in the same way people now identify Apple with white. And I don't think the color hurt the system - black was available fairly early on (if not at launch, I don't remember for sure - I know black was available in Japan before the US launch, when I bought my system).

      btw, to go back to the original point regarding stackability, here's a list of some other systems that were not stackable:

      Atari 2600
      Atari 5200
      Atari 7800
      Coleco Vision
      Intellivision
      NES
      SNES
      Sega Genesis 1, 2, and 3
      Sega Master System
      Neo Geo AES
      N64
      PlayStation 1 (unless you put it on top, with clearance for the drive door)
      PlayStation 2 is marginal, again unless you put it on top
      Xbox

      In other words, pretty much every major console ever made. If this is news to anyone, then you just haven't been a gamer very long. Consoles are meant to stand out, they're meant to be conversation pieces, the center of attention. I personally like it that way.

  3. Stackable Console by Dubpal · · Score: 5, Informative
    I wonder if I'm alone in just wishing that consoles looked like stereo components and fit in my rack without scary balancing acts and lopsided aesthetics.

    I've often wished the same thing, and it turns out that Sony actually made something to cater to that market.

    The PSX is a DVD Recorder/Tivo-Like device (that uses an interface similar to the XMB type used in the PSP) that's also a PlayStation 2. If you look at the image on the first link, you'll see it wouldn't be at all out of place in a home theatre set-up. It looks like they're still making them, but you can't get them outside of Japan.

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  4. Link Slashdotted Already by Dubpal · · Score: 4, Informative
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  5. Mirror by Rinnt · · Score: 5, Informative
  6. Could be worse by hal2814 · · Score: 3, Funny

    At least the systems mentioned would stack better than this monstrosity.

  7. Marketing departments won't grant your wish by ChrisF79 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I wonder if I'm alone in just wishing that consoles looked like stereo components and fit in my rack without scary balancing acts and lopsided aesthetics. A Gamecube, PS2, and X-Box can not be stacked nicely."

    Although that would be nice for the consumer, it offers Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo no product differentiation. They want their systems to be flashy and unique so the convenience of stacking for the consumer goes right out the window.

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  8. GC in my computer by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've often thought of modding my GC right into my computer. There's a lot of empty space in the bottom front of my tower, and it would be a great place to put it. With the revolution being even smaller, it looks like it will even be easier. Maybe in the future we can just use the same computer forever, since most productivity applications don't require that much CPU power, and use consoles that drop right into a drive bay in order to facilitate playing games.

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    1. Re:GC in my computer by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yoshi from the Screensavers did that. He also threw in a PS2 and XBox. The video out went to a flat screen monitor with S-Video in additon to the usual monitor connections (I think, its been a while). Pretty cool.

  9. nintendo started that by Odocoileus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember an article when the super nintendo came out, they said they made the surfaces non-flat so that you wouldn't set your drinks on it. Seems logical since most kids back then would sit on the floor and play (shorter cables?), and drinks spill easy when sitting on the carpet.

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    1. Re:nintendo started that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe the real reason has to do with heat dissipation. If it's sandwitched between a DVD player and a stereo, it could get pretty hot.

    2. Re:nintendo started that by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That sounds like a pretty irrelevant reason for designing a game console in a non-stacking style. You'd think Nintendo would ENCOURAGE kids to put their drinks on their consoles so they'd spill, void the warranty due to liquid damage, and be forced to buy a new one, that'd just be extra cash in their pockets.

      Or a more likely reason would be to promote better heat dissipation, as another poster said, or just for the "coolness factor" of not being yet another black/beige box.

  10. I'll join the "me too" crowd by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, I wish game consoles were in a standard shape that fit into a home theatre / entertainment center setup as well. I'd be especially happy if manufacturers will ditch top-loading designs (such as the GameCube, SNES, Genesis, and Dreamcast) and instead use tray loading designs (like the PS2 and XBox). With top-loading designs it pretty much means you can't put anything on top (or even near the top) of the unit.

    Maybe that fits in well with how the company would like our living rooms to look (just one system, theirs, on the top of everything else), but it's not how reality works.

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    1. Re:I'll join the "me too" crowd by Pienjo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Commodore had this CDTV thing a few eons ago - but maybe that looked too much like a plain CD player. Either way, it flopped big time.

  11. If you have a rack... by Dracolytch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you have a rack, insist on putting all of your gear in that rack, and worry about the stability of items because they're not designed for the rack, why not buy some shelves for your rack?

    I know, whining is much cheaper and easier, but this ain't exactly new technology.

    I wonder how many ordinary problems would be gone if we just used our energy for solving them, instead of complaining.

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    1. Re:If you have a rack... by JediTrainer · · Score: 4, Informative

      ...why not buy some shelves for your rack?

      I think the biggest problem with this is that they still take up an obscene amount of space. Because most of these consoles are top-loading, this means both that you need to have the unit in an area where you can reach the top easily (and grasp the disc/cartridge), and it also means you need quite a bit of vertical space so that you can lift up that disc/cartridge.

      If these consoles were designed like stereo components, say where all the controls and game slots were on the front, you'd use up a lot less space and thus could have more stuff crammed in there, because you wouldn't need to have the extra inches of vertical space clear on top of the unit for these tasks..

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  12. Well, no... by lpangelrob · · Score: 2, Funny
    A Gamecube, PS2, and X-Box can not be stacked nicely.

    ...and I can expect that from having different-looking systems. But have you considered the space efficiency of a Beowulf cluster of Gamecubes?

  13. Stacking causes overheating by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Modern consoles (PS2 and up) run *hot*. I've often wondered if the awkward styling is to *prevent* stacking. The cooling systems aren't designed for numerous hot boxes stacked in close quarters.

  14. maybe it's just me... by toQDuj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But I still think all of the xbox designs are missing a certain amount of aesthetics. Not to troll here, but I think Apple got it right, as well as NAD (although the green is hideous) and Bang and Olufsen. Those somehow "radiate" the idea of quality, sturdiness and coolness.
    Can anyone give an insight as to why this is? Are the maketing people at MS trying to push it too far? or did they intend to make it look like a run-of-the-mill pc?
    I for one would hide the xbox in another box or cupboard. It looks cheap. The PS3 design is much better IMHO.

    just my 0.02 cents.
    B.

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  15. Yes they can! by nigel_q · · Score: 3, Funny

    Put the Gamecube on top of your PS2, and put the XBOX in the garbage!

  16. Slot. by Vo0k · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, there's one more option, slot loading. Definitely most space-efficient, more reliable than tray, position-independent (good for horizontal and vertical CD-ROMs and quite comfortable to that. Unless people stuff junk in the slot. And of course it won't work with 8cm mini-CDs but I doubt that should be a requirement for a game console.

    (there's the fourth option, casette loading like in the first CD-ROMs, where you put the CD in a special container which you then insert in the drive, but it sucked so much that let's forget it.)

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    1. Re:Slot. by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 2, Informative

      My old car stereo (Pioneer DEH-3100, I believe) loaded mini-CDs just fine. Haven't tried it with my current one, but it wouldn't surprise me. Now, the weird shapes, like the Yoshi-shaped CDs Nintendo used to sell, yeah, those wouldn't have a snowball's chance of working.

  17. From the Idlethumbs interview: by Bertie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jesus Christ, it's David Brent.

    "Hayes is visibly excited about the fact that 'his' product will soon be released into the wild. At the end of our interview, I asked him what it's like to work as a designer within a technology-oriented company. He picks up the table cloth between his fingers. "Table cloth right? Microsoft is the table cloth. Everything is influenced by technology. So the brand team has to come up, and understand and integrate the technology. As an industrial designer, I'm only as good as the technology we use. It's kind of the common language that connects everyone. But it also needs to be balanced out."

    WHAT THE HELL IS HE ON ABOUT?

  18. PC/Console Combos by TheZorch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There were actually a few PC/Game Console Combo systems. One was a PC/Sega Genesis combo system that was only released in Japan. There was also one for the NES (aka the Famicom in Japan) that let you play NES cartridges, NES games on floppies, and PC games. Again, it was only released in Japan. Seems like the Japanese get all the great stuff and we only get it if we start demanding it. Maybe I should consider moving overseas. Hmmmmm.

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  19. Not True At All... by jpiggot · · Score: 2, Informative
    There's an easy and great looking "rack storage" solution for my Xbox and PS2, as well as for thousands of other devices...custom rackshelves from Middle Atlantic.

    It's basically a rack shelf with a laser cut panel in the front that perfects fits the components (it doesn't work for Game Cube or any other "top loading" system, unless you put those on a sliding rack shelf, which is certainly doable.) I've not only racked my game systems, but everything else...DVD players, DSS, etc. And I've got a neat, clean, "custom fitted" appearance for everything.

    Check them out...http://www.middleatlantic.com/

  20. Re:everytenminutes.com by Sarmis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And is it just me, or is this "viral" advirtisement getting worse and worse?

    At least there have been some occasions where it got disguised as something other then pure spam.

    Please, for the sake of us all, mod the parent down.

  21. here's what you (i) do by real_smiff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    build a classy HTPC in the case of your choice (mine is smaller than anything else (ooh am i going to slashdot them?) in my stack and powerful enough to run N64 emus and possibly later systems), say screw the new games, and play anything from about 1970 to 2000. I'm half serious.

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  22. Re:there are a lot of things like this by fishybell · · Score: 2, Insightful
    all be functionally replaced by
    - CAT5e with RJ45 connectors?

    No.
    Network cable has very high gauge (ie. skinny as hell) wire; bad quality, easy to burn out with high-voltage. It's not shielded very well (compare to a decent Monster cable); really bad quality problems. It's also got the wrong number of wires for just about everything.

    To sum up: use the right tool for the job.

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  23. Like the MegaDrive PC by Tryfen · · Score: 3, Informative
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  24. Re:there are a lot of things like this by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 2, Informative

    In Europe the French came up with a one-for-everything TV connection solution called SCART, as a standard connection between TVs and stuff like VCRs etc. (RGB and composite video input, with a composite video output line, stereo sound, plus some control lines like a "look at me" signal, a widescreen signal etc.) Unline many French standards, this was has actually been adopted by almost all European TVs.

    Now it's great, especially as it means most European TVs have RGB input. But it was designed in the early '80s, so newer standards like S-Video and YUV Component effectivley had to be hacked on later, and so you have a problem that TVs may or may not accept certain types of signals over SCART (yukky composite is about the only one you can be certain of, although RGB SCART is the most common version of the connector by far) It also doesn't support HDTV (except the YUV variant?), but that's probably moot as the all-in-one HDMI connector seems to being push for HDTV connections.

    Oh, and the SCART connector is posibley the worst connector design ever made.

    (Oh, and as most European TVs have SCART, games consoles are naturally ship with composite + stero connectors (RCA jacks) and a cheap adaptor, rather than a full RGB SCART cable, which is extra.)

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