Former Apple Exec Speaks Against DRM
Wysz writes "Mike Evangelist, former Director of Product Marketing for Apple's "Pro" applications, has blogged his thoughts about DRM. Like many of us, he is offended by the fact that the record labels and movie studios treat their customers like criminals.
While he notes in the comments section that iTunes is the best of the worst, he admits to using third-party tools to remove the DRM from iTunes tracks."
Easy for you to say; you've already bought everything!
Just kidding.
Seriously, good luck with that. I'm sure, like when Homer Simpson told Moe that he wouldn't buy any more "Flaming Moe's", Apple and others will be able to hear your "You just lost yourself a customer!" declaration over their excited, yelling customers and ringing cash registers.
You know how just about every department store puts a don't-steal-me tag on the clothes that has to be removed before you can wear it? They're treating you like a potential criminal, too. Just something to think about before you boycott an industry that takes irritating measures to keep their stuff from getting stolen.
For what it's worth, although I avoid buying CDs that aren't real red book Compact Disc (I want to rip my music with no limits), I have no problems with Apple's DRM.
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Yet I bet it comes with more protection next release.
Let us use OUR downloads as WE want. That means any player, any time, as long as I own it. Until then I will download for free or rip from CD.
The fight against DRM cannot be won. Visions of a future where media companies and other copyright holders kowtow to consumer demand and release all of their content in an unprotected format to be infinitely copied are ludicrous. The only reason this occurs now is due to the consumer technology gap. If I buy a Britney Spears CD, it has to work in the CD player I bought in 1990. Companies can't implement any real DRM without breaking backwards compatibility.
Expect this to change, soon. Your content will be encrypted at the source and will only be decrypted by the hardware, at the last possible phase, using your personal key and with proper authorization from the license server. As long as we put copyright law on the books, technology will be developed to allow it to be enforced. Live with it.
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When you buy clothes from a department store, the tag is removed and you are free to wear alter, and lend out the clothing however you see fit.
When you buy media with DRM, you take the tag home with you so it can tell you how to use the product you bought and try to get you in jail for shutting it up.
Like many of us, he is offended by the fact that the fact that the record labels and movie studios treat their customers like criminals.
Well, I'm not sure why he would be offended, since most of their customers *do* display a propensity to steal their music.
It's like being offended that walmart has stolen goods detectors at the exits.
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What I really like is that how you go out and fork over $20 for a new DVD, then as soon as you put it in the player you are forced to watch a short video telling you such crap as "You wouldn't steal toys, you wouldn't steal shoes, why would you steal a movie?" I own the stupid thing, and they make me so mad I rip a copy just to get rid of their garbage. And by the way, "Own it now!" is their line...so I guess if we own it, we can do what we want with it...
Why is it that someone hasn't proposed a reasonable alternative to DRM.
The record companies want to make money, people want to control their stuff. So instead of bitching about it, then bending over and taking it, why doesn't someone come up with an alternative.
It seems like the extremes of this discussion are all I ever hear anymore. What is being proposed by people who see a business opportunity in a good compromise that satisfies everybody? Is there such a thing?
How pathetic are you that you follow me from topic to topic and waste all your mod points at once modding me down?
I'm a developer who contributes both to closed and open-source projects and I don't see the use of DRM is necessarily a bad thing. There are an awful lot of people who are being hurt by content/software piracy these days and the mac platform is http://www.macserialjunkie.com/>no exception. Apple (and nearly every other developer I know of) is aware of this forum and the thiefs that hang out there. Moreover, everyone expects the problem will only get worse as the market share increases.
I agree that DRM isn't the whole solution to this problem, but I don't think it should be dismissed outright. What is wrong with wanting money for working?
> He's basically fed up with format change, and he's ticked off that there are things he
> thinks he ought to be able to do with the new format (copy it freely to every digital
> device) that he can't do.
No, it isn't the format change. We all know that is unavoidable. This is different. This is THEM assuming total control. In the past, all media was essentially free. You could loan it to a friend, make a working copy (dump an LP to tape for the road, etc) make mix tapes, etc. You couldn't make and sell copies, not because of a technoligical restriction but simply because, well it is illegal. Not anymore. They want the right to dictate where and how you will play it, how long you can play it and eventually will insist on the right to charge you by the play. Unless we say NO, right now.
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Sorry, but the cynic in me just realizes the fact that people are too stupid to know what's going on, so before we know it all media and computers will be DRMed. Say goodbye to using media as you wish (portable players, computers, etc) and also hobby coding on your computer. Only "approved" software will run. But it will creep in as "protection" from virus, malware, etc.
People are idiots, and won't know what's going on until way after it's too late.
Sure, the few of us that get it can boycott all we want, but everyone else is still buying rap "music" and britney spears albums. They don't care what rights they have to give away in return.
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To be honest I wouldn't care about DRM if there was a universal standard for everything. If I buy a CD track over iTunes I have no problem with it being DRMed on the condition that I can also play it on anything else, be it a 'Windows Media' device or my TV or my phone.
Saying you want new music to always be backwards compatible is like saying you want all new music to play on an old vinyl deck. With DRM at least there is a record of "this person has already bought this, so in fact we *can* authorise this download without charging them again".
If I buy a video with this 'universal DRM' why can I not for example go to my friend's house, plug in my username and password and it appears in my 'media list'. Steam does it for games, why can't the same be done for media? And whilst they're at it I would appreciate a way to add all my old media and games to the list as well.
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If people walk away from DRM media, and tell their friends to do the same thing, then they'll go away. Period. If people blindly let themselves get suckered into this process and put up with it, then they'll continue to get shafted.
You get what you put up with. it was true when workers struck against nasty employer tactics in the '20s and '30s and it's true now with DRM. When people stopped putting up with the nasty stuff, the laws finally got changed to something that recognized the source of the unrest.
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I understand that this guy wants to live in a world where entertainment data (audio CD, DVD, downloaded audio, etc) is released without DRM. He can create that world today. All he has to do is produce content that everyone wants and release that content with no DRM at all.
The best way to win over the hearts and minds of the people is to live your life as a shining example of the good behavior that you want emulated. That's going to be much more effective world change for DRM than whining in a blog.
If you don't like DRM, suggest another way for them to sell music.
Ok, here's one: sell music without DRM. CDs, mp3s, DVDs, whatever floats your boat.
CD burners have been available for nearly a decade now. Mass copying of digital music has been feasible, and known to your average Joe, for years now. Broadband is pretty standard in most countries. Yet people still buy CDs by the millions.
Why?
Because the vast majority of people are honest. They'd LIKE to pay for things. I know it's easy to assume everyone is out to steal from everyone else, but the numbers simply don't reflect this. Mass copying of free digital music has been available and easy to use for years now, and yet people still buy CDs by the truckload.
You're always going to lose some sales due to piracy, sure. Maybe even a decent percentage (10-20%). But overall, most people are quite willing to give up some money for a quality product. Don't believe me? Here in Canada, copying CDs for personal use is 100% legal. Most interpretations of the law say that sharing/downloading mp3s is also 100% legal. Yet CDs still sell, and sell well. Record stores aren't going out of business in droves, people still have a collection of CDs in their cars, and the music industry is still making a profit.
Should copying be illegal? Maybe. That'll stop the casual users. DRM will never stop the dedicated. They're just not interested in buying your music. Short of not releasing it, you'll never stop these people. But the masses will happily pay for unencumbered mp3s.
It's kind of like bottled water. Water is free, right? Then why is bottled water a multi-million dollar industry?
Convenience. Imagine a music store with everything, and no DRM. I'd be paying thousands every year for music at the rate I chew through it, even though I could easily get it for free. DRM doesn't stop music from getting onto P2P networks, and it never will. All it does is stop me from buying music from iTunes, etc.
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
I reached the same conclusion about three years ago. I've not bought any CD's since. I did try out iTunes and bought a few tracks on-line. The trouble with iTunes, is that it was a hassle to move the music to my MP3 player or to create mix CD's for my car. Possible yes - but ultimately too much trouble. So, I cancelled my iTunes account.
I think with the Sony Rootkit and the publicity it's been getting, that we're reaching a tipping point. Music sales are down. People are already frustrated that they can't use music that they paid for, in devices that they paid for. Now they have to wonder - is this going to damage my PC? Expose it to malware and possible attack? The industry shot themselves in the foot years ago. They are continuing to do so, and have switched to heavy caliber weapons. It will be interesting to see how well music sells this holiday season.
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There are a few differences between this and a regular format change.
1) A format change has an upside. Typically - better quality, or more features. Vinyl sounded better than wax drums, tape allowed recording, CD sounded better than vinyl, etc. A CD with "copy protection" offers me nothing more than a regular CD, in fact - it offers me less. Unless you count a rootkit as a bonus.
2) A format change requires repurchase of equipment and media for technical reasons, not political ones. I had to rebuy my LPs on CD because my record player doesn't have an appropriate laser pickup. The only reason I can't play my girlfriend's iTunes downloads on our living room hifi (with networked audio player) is that someone at Apple decided I shouldn't be allowed to. There is no technical reason whatsoever, just policy.
3) A format change is voluntary. I still have records, I still buy records. I'd like to still buy regular CDs, as would (I think) most people. That's becoming increasingly difficult. NO ONE IS ASKING for this format change. It's not voluntary.
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What I really dislike about DRM is the general consensus that everything actually will have DRM in the future.
While I think most devices will have some form of DRM, I am not as worried about devices having DRM as having to use it.
I don't care if Blu-Ray has the most ass-backward DRM the universe has yet devised - as long as I can burn my own content on a Blu-Ray disc and play it using that player, and give it to other people to play. Similarily while the iPod supports DRM it also supports ways to use the iPod that involve no DRM whatsoever. The DRM does increase device cost but that is an up-front and one-time cost I can roll my eyes over, and watch as at times that cost becomes too great and prevents adoption of what would otherwise be a good device.
As long as there is a path for free content to flow through a system I am not as worried about DRM because it lets media producers willing to relinquish controls compete on the basis of freedom to use media. If mainstream media becomes locked down too tightly, new avenues of media will spring up that are more open. You can see that today with online movie sites, even with news video fed from various bloggers. Not all producers of media are interested in a total lockdown of thier work, and those people will have the benefit of a wider natural distribution rather than having to pay people to take something.
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