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Windows Advantage Validation Process On Firefox

GraemeDonaldson writes "According to this IE Blog entry, Microsoft seems to be serious about supporting non-IE browsers. Mention is made of a Windows Media Player plugin for Firefox. The Windows Genuine Advantage validation process now works in Firefox too. From the article: 'Basically, customers said "We want to make sure our PCs are running genuine Windows and have access to all the content on the Microsoft Download Center; the experience when we're running a Mozilla browser is not great. Do something about it." Brad's team did. I think that's a good thing for customers.'"

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  1. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What happens if you are running a pirated copy of Firefox?

    1. Re:But... by rob_squared · · Score: 5, Funny

      You have to pay back to mozilla the suggested retail price.

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    2. Re:But... by Nuskrad · · Score: 4, Funny

      * ---- this is the joke

      o ---- this is your head

  2. The end of the world is coming.... by ZiakII · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this isn't any proof that the end of the world is coming.... I don't know what is

    1. Re:The end of the world is coming.... by richdun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Eh, the Red Sox and White Sox would have to win consecutive World Series before we should really worry about the end of the world. I don't think we have anything to worry about.

    2. Re:The end of the world is coming.... by websaber · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is nice but dont get to excited it works for windows only. It will just fragment things further unless they go all the way and make one for OSX and Linux.

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  3. Windows Updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Office Updates? Microsoft Updates? Slow link response in Outlook (and other Office apps) if non-IE browser is default? There still is a ways to go for Microsoft before they can claim they are supporting browsers other than their own.

    1. Re:Windows Updates? by zootm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The slow link response seems to be because IE is generally memory-resident (and smaller) and takes less time to open than Firefox in general (certainly I notice no difference in times between opening a link from Outlook and opening from XChat or whatever), so I'm not convinced this is really an issue of their bias.

      The updates use controls that wouldn't go on Firefox because they'd be deemed unsafe (I believe there's a plugin to make them work, I wouldn't recommend it though). The best way for Microsoft to get around this would be to stop relying on a browser at all for Windows Updates, which is basically what they've done by "forcing" Automatic Updates (which isn't browser-based) on in XP SP2.

  4. Yeah but... by xero9 · · Score: 3, Informative

    if you try and just go straight to the downloads page you still have to download GenguineCheck.exe and paste the code in. If I hadn't read the summary, I wouldn't have known about this plugin And somethign else that's interesting.. Even after installing the plugin and closing Firefox completely, when I return to the downloads page it STILL wants me to paste the validation code in

  5. Attention all passengers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Swine Air flight 666 is now boarding at gate 13.

  6. long live billware by andrelix · · Score: 3, Funny

    this is a sad day, what is next, a media player that can be installed on Vista, CD burning software from a third party, what is this world coming to! Actually in all fairness, this is a good thing even if I dont run firefox. It is nice to see M$ acknowlege the use of other browsers by doing something besides trying to stomp them out...

  7. Very usefull by jurt1235 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is very usefull. Suppose you have a system where IE is heavily infected with spyware, but you do have a firefox installed. At least you can leave IE unused to get some of the necessary service packs for your windows system by using this alternative browser. Everytime I use firefox on windows to help somebody out, I still have to start IE to use the Microsoft tools to update a part of the system. The rest of the Microsoft site always worked very good in mozilla anyway (at least, I never ran into any problems, then again I am running linux fulltime since 2000, and before that 50% of the time, so I am probably not the most representitive user of the Microsoft website)

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  8. If they really wanted to improve our experience... by dslauson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They would think seriously about supporting openDocument.

  9. Coming next... by Jjeff1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A firefox plugin that enables ActiveX. I'll be sure to download that!

    I use firefox as much to avoid the heavy-handed control Microsoft and other corporations are trying to exert over how my PC should operate. Just now I'm noticing that macromedia is poping up an icon in my system tray! Hello?, it's a browser plugin. It should only do stuff within the browser!

    1. Re:Coming next... by HoosierPeschke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not next, Already here...

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    2. Re:Coming next... by Malc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't the scripting support sub-standard with this plug-in?

  10. Y'know... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Basically, customers said "We want to make sure our PCs are running genuine Windows and have access to all the content on the Microsoft Download Center; the experience when we're running a Mozilla browser is not great. Do something about it."

    Nope. I'll bet no-one said anything of the kind. I think it probably went more like this "FFS! f*cking MS doesn't work!" maybe...

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    1. Re:Y'know... by Atzanteol · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why, just the other day I was wondering if there is a way to validate the legality of the content on my DVD products at home!

      Gawd I hate PR drivel...

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  11. Whee media player! :D by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finally I can put midis on my webpages again! :)

    Boy, I missed those since Netscape 4.

  12. What?? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do I really want ActiveX components running free in Firefox?

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  13. I installed fake Windows the other day by HomerJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    'Basically, customers said "We want to make sure our PCs are running genuine Windows and have access to all the content on the Microsoft Download Center; the experience when we're running a Mozilla browser is not great. Do something about it." Brad's team did. I think that's a good thing for customers.'"

    Yeah, I installed this Windows the other day, had some sort of goofy foot for a start menu, Office didn't install, and I couldn't get any of my games to work. I'm glad now there is a way I can see if I actually have genuine Windows, and not that fake Windows going around.

  14. Google pays a dollar for Firefox switchers by pubjames · · Score: 5, Interesting


    I have read here that Google is paying a dollar for everyone you can get to switch from IE to Firefox. Is this true? Any Slashdotters acually made any money from this?

    I'll be interested to see what Microsoft is going to do in Vista to try to spoil things for Firefox. My guess is even further integration of IE into Windows, and lots of stuff that doesn't even feel like you're using IE will actually be through their browser. Also, they're going to try to get more lock-in on the corporate intranet rather than the public web.

    1. Re:Google pays a dollar for Firefox switchers by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'll be interested to see what Microsoft is going to do in Vista to try to spoil things for Firefox. My guess is even further integration of IE into Windows, and lots of stuff that doesn't even feel like you're using IE will actually be through their browser. Also, they're going to try to get more lock-in on the corporate intranet rather than the public web.

      No signs so far of further IE integration in Vista so far, at least in the most recent public October build. The November one is supposed to be out tomorrow btw. However, beta 2 (due ~January 06) will be much more interesting as it's supposed to take a leap in features. But I still don't believe there's much to fear in this specific area as they have both the DOJ and EU's knife on their throat here since quite a while ago. And they have acted before, not only by forcing them to provide an accessible UI for default browser switching, but also on the Media Player bundle.

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  15. Other Options beside windows update by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

    WindizUpdate: http://windowsupdate.62nds.com/
    They've been around for a while now and aren't shady.
    You use it just like the regular windows update site.
    Supports Mozilla, Opera, AOL & K-Meleon (?)

    AutoPatcher XP: http://www.autopatcher.com/
    They provide windows updates every month packaged in
    one big executable (Full and Lite versions available)
    Available through http, ftp, & bittorrent

    Alternatively, you can disrespect MS by using a cracked LegitCheckControl.DLL

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  16. When will WGA support Mac OS X? by Andrew+Tanenbaum · · Score: 4, Funny

    I feel a bit left out.

  17. Steps one and two in place. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps the monopolist is starting to get the point.

    1) Embrace
    2) Extend
    3) Extinguish

    Steps 1 and 2 are now in place. In this case it's Mozilla/Firefox that gets embraced and extended, but what gets extinguished is open-source media formats.

    By making a Mozilla plugin for their media product they reduce the pressure on content providers to supply content in other formats.

    Meanwhile, any bets on whether / when use of the plugin starts "accidentally" introducing vulnerabilities into Mozilla that are exploitable during ordinary browsing? (Something like the backdoor {BARNdoor} you install in IE when you APPLY to obtain the full removal tool for Sony's rootkit?) And there goes security, the main driver of migration from IE to Mozilla.

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  18. Validation Smalidation... by I.M.O.G. · · Score: 3, Informative

    We already know validation can be turned off in IE as follows: Go to IE>Tools>Manage Add-ons, find Windows Genuine Validation listed there, and select disable. No more check required, and you can get all your updates.

    So how do we turn it off for Firefox? Ironic that I found it easier to turn off in IE, and I haven't yet found how to do it in firefox...

  19. Get off your Anti-MS High horses! by Phillyboy82 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, alot of the comments here show that the "groupthink tools" mentality has really sunk in here. For Christ sakes, they are changing something that people bitch about here, only for people to COMPLETELY SIDE STEP WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT and bitch about other things unrelated to it, just to fluff their epeen on anything anti-MS. I am glad to see that some people are actually saying something positive, ie that Microsoft is actually...um, you know...playing fair and recognizing they have competition. Thank you for helping support insightful discussions (which my post certainly is not! :))

  20. Outlook Web Access? by cwgmpls · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When are they going to fix the way Outlook Web Access runs on non-IE browsers? The current non-IE OWA is a 1990's-era frame-based piece of crap that lacks any ability to spell-check emails or search mailboxes. And they try to pass it off as a state-of-the-art web-based email client. What a joke.

  21. The user experience running Word on Linux... by dpbsmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...isn't great, either. When will it occur to them to do something about that?

    I think Microsoft is suffering from terminal Big Company Disease, the situation in which a company loses focus on serving the customer and starts to obey the Three Laws of Necrotics:

    1) First Law: hurt the competition. This is more important than anything else.

    2) Second Law: don't cannibalize any of your own products, so long as this does not conflict with the First Law.

    3) Third Law: Serve the customer, so long as this does not conflict with the First or Second law, and can be done in any spare time left over after dealing with more important priorities

  22. tagline: Mosaic? by Blitzenn · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't understand your tagline regarding Mosaic. You don't have to remember it, it's an integral part of any IE browser, even today. Open your M$ browser and click Help then About. Mosaic is still there and M$ still pays licensing fees for it to SpyGlass. If you don't believe me, read the history for yourself.