Austrian Town Sees the Light

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Posted by Zonk on Sunday November 20, 2005 @09:43PM from the visitors-from-the-outside dept.

pin_gween writes "The Austrian town of Rattenberg (a 10 minute walk from sunlight during the winter) plans to install a mirror on a mountain to redirect sunlight towards the town. The town was built in the winter shadow of Rat Mountain. The plan is to place heliostat mirrors to shine light in several locations around town, where villagers could 'congregate and get sunned up.' The EU is ponying up half the $2.4 million costs. The company installing the mirrors, Bartenbach Lichtlabor GmbH, is contributing $600,000, and hopes other communities will use their technology."

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Potential Problem by SlashSquatch · 2005-11-20 21:47 · Score: 5, Funny

If there's a glitch in focusing, then the people get fried like ants?

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If you can't stand the heat... by Anyd · 2005-11-20 21:52 · Score: 5, Insightful

Doesn't this fall into the category of "don't live there?" I'm not saying it wouldn't suck to live in an area without sunlight, but to knowingly move into said area, and then use taxpayer's money (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm assuming EU money = EU taxpayer's money) to change that... in the tone of millions... just seems stupid. It just seems that our global community should spend $ on better things than trying to cram people into every possible nook and cranny on earth!
1. Re:If you can't stand the heat... by meringuoid · 2005-11-20 22:01 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Doesn't this fall into the category of "don't live there?"
  Well, yes, probably. That said, I wonder if this might actually attract a certain type of warped tourist to the town? The City of Eternal Darkness, lit only by giant mirrors that reflect an eerie faded sunlight onto its dismal roofs... Chances are something Lovecraftian lives there.
  Myself, I'd be heading up the hill to stick a giant cut-out of a bat onto one of the mirrors :-)
  
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2. Re:If you can't stand the heat... by vidarh · 2005-11-20 22:44 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Not millions. $1.2 million to improve quality of life for around 400 people. In other words around $3000 per inhabitant, or far less than most of them are paying in taxes in a single year. Combined with the fact that this project serves a dual purpose of helping this town and also of growing interest for the EU based mirror manufacturer's business worldwide, and it's likely economically a good long term investment - Both promoting growth in a town that's currently in decline as well as increasing exports from the company involved and boosting taxable revenue that way.
3. Re:If you can't stand the heat... by vidarh · 2005-11-20 22:58 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Oh, and I guess you missed the part of this town being built in the 1300s, and currently being in decline because people are moving OUT of it, not in... Most people currently living there have lived there all their lives, and now they are getting what could be a significant improvement in quality of life at a small fraction of what they've paid in taxes over those years.
  So it's not about cramming people into every nook and cranny, but about maintaining and possible growing a settlement which already have an established residential area, that employ people, that have established infrastructure etc.
  The likely cost to society of having these people put pressure on house prices etc. by moving elsewhere would likely easily outweigh the $1.2 million the EU is spending all by itself.
4. Re:If you can't stand the heat... by DrSkwid · 2005-11-20 23:32 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  Yeah, good job it doesn't happen anywhere else in the world
  
  no wait,
  
  "America's 25,000 cotton farmers received more than $3bn in subsidies last year, equivalent to 100% of the market value of cotton output. This works out at a staggering subsidy of $230 an acre."
  
  Not that I'm defending the C.A.P.
  
  some depressing reading :
  
  http://www.guardian.co.uk/leaders/story/0,3604,102 0653,00.html
  
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Cool! by dbolger · 2005-11-20 21:53 · Score: 5, Funny

During peacetime, it brings light to the people, but if war is declared - instant Archimedes Death Ray! :D
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being an EU citizen by myc_lykaon · 2005-11-20 21:57 · Score: 5, Insightful

I cannot (well - I do believe) the EU is paying up for a scheme to redirect sunlight into a town that:
a) was badly positioned in the first place;
b) has existed as such for hundreds of years without blowing up, dying or otherwise falling off the edge of the planet without this winter sun;
What about EU funds for my city - it's a bit chilly in winter. Has been for the last 5000 years. Everyone there knew it was chilly in winter and it hasn't blown up or fallen off the edge of the world because of this winter chill. I think the EU should pay for some weird underground heating to recompense us for this winter horror. Oh and a massive umbrella - it tends to rain a bit here.
Other than that - 'tis a cool piece of tech.
1. Re:being an EU citizen by ChristW · 2005-11-20 22:22 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  a) was badly positioned in the first place;
  
  It's excellently placed... All their crops get the most sunlight, and the village is quite cool in the summer...
  
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2. Re:being an EU citizen by tcornelissen · 2005-11-20 22:39 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  The EU is not paying for that town. EU doesn't care for some people in some town. They are paying so that that company has something to do. EU does care for companies, or at least for companies that have enough money to lobby/bribe EU officials.
I'm Sure... by MattLiv · 2005-11-20 21:58 · Score: 5, Funny

...that the mirror companies decision to pay for some of the cost will reflect well on them over time.
Re:All good until... by drstock · 2005-11-20 22:03 · Score: 5, Insightful

This is in Europe, not USA. You can't sue the pants of anyone here, especially not for your own stupidity.

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10 Minute Walk? Hah! by core+plexus · 2005-11-20 22:14 · Score: 5, Interesting

The nation's northernmost town braces Friday for its last sundown of the year.
Barrow, Alaska residents say they tend to sleep more during the long months of round-the-clock dark. The sun sets in Barrow on Friday at 1:40 p.m. and doesn't rise again until Jan. 23 at 1:01 p.m.
Diana Martin is an Inupiat Eskimo and a lifelong Barrow resident. She says it's much easier to start the day when Barrow receives round-the-clock daylight in summer.
Map on news.telegraph by worf_mo · 2005-11-20 22:29 · Score: 5, Informative

Last January news.telegraph had an article about this that featured kind of a map on how the mirrors will be positioned.
Tourist landmark by SpaghettiPattern · 2005-11-20 23:10 · Score: 5, Insightful

I live in a country neighboring Austria. When the mirror is up I definitively will pay a visit and spend between 5 and 100 EUR in the town. Just because I and my family like trips. And, if we like it, we might return.

Why build the Eiffel tower? Why build the statue of liberty (and give the ugly thing away?) Why were the funny looking Gaudi buildings built? Why did Linus do it? This list can get pretty long but the common factor is that at the beginning nobody really knew if it really was a good idea.

The truly strange thing is that this mirror thingy is referred to as a technology. Isn't that like calling a hamburger gastronomy?

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Rattenberg Homepage by derphilipp · 2005-11-21 00:15 · Score: 5, Interesting

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattenberg_(Tirol)
The article says that Rattenberg is famous for its glass-processing industry.

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