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Vista Could Ship Earlier Than Expected

UltimaGuy writes "With speculation of a ship date for Windows Vista ranging in the second part of 2006, word has surprisingly surfaced that it can be expected much earlier. BusinessWeek has received a copy of the internal blog of Chris Jones, who is a top Windows executive. The blog states that the code for Windows Vista will be completed by August 31, giving Microsoft the opportunity to place Vista on PCs for the 2006 Christmas season."

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  1. Yea sure..... by rimcrazy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just in time for Santa, the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy..............

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    1. Re:Yea sure..... by oztiks · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yep, and let's face it, an Operating System is not the first gift you'd think of giving, nor would there be much Vista-based software available. Can't imagine why they think getting it out in time for Christmas is in any way important!

      You know after reading your post i had a sudden flash of this evil grinch like santa wearing thick glasses, having a bowl haircut (real 70's like) and the windows emblem printed on the side of his bag of goodies. Going from house to house replacing peoples linux distribution pressies with copies of vista.

      Now imagine being that poor let down 10yr old child screaming in dismay ... MUM!!! I TOLD YOU I DIDNT WANT THIS PROPEITRY SOFTWARE TRASH!!!

      And yes i know the hole in this plot, if your giving copies of linux to people for xmas you must be a real cheapskate.

  2. in other news... by 0110011001110101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    a top Realm employee has revealed that the first copy of DukeNukem Forever will be posted with Vista...

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  3. always a good idea by dresgarcia · · Score: 5, Interesting

    SO they take the product that has had tons of problems and MOVE UP the release date? Wow. . . I hope its perfect. No that a few months will make a difference at this point. . .

  4. Brilliant... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So.. this super hyped version of the next generation of Windows has gradually had all of its most attractive features stripped out of it just for the sake of getting it out of the door quickly. So this means that its going to be yet another interim OS, and the NEXT version of Windows is going to be the one that you really want.

    We're just going to be left with a shadow of the OS we were all hoping for - and purely so that Microsoft can say that they have an OS that looks just as pretty as MacOS X. Other than that, there have been absolutely no stand out or interesting additions that I can see.

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    1. Re:Brilliant... by mysticgoat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The significant point here is that Microsoft is now beginning to position Vista as vaporware. MS has a long tradition of announcing that they will start selling product Real Soon Now to mess up the heads of IT strategists who are thinking about moving their company away from MS products. This works because it activates all the PHBs and any effort to talk rationally about moving the company to Linux (or OS/2 back in the day, or D.R. DOS back at the dawn of time) is going to be met with a lot of thought-avoidance resistance since it becomes so easy to say "I don't want you to waste any time on looking at a possible Linux migration until we see what MS has to offer".

      The vaporware stage of Microsoft product development is concerned with projecting mirages of paradise into the marketplace, in an effort to cause potential buyers to wait until MS actually has product to put out there. It is the kind of FUD that MS marketdroids are particularly good at generating. It is the kind of thing that PHBs soak up like sponges, because it gives them such great sounding excuses for avoiding actually having to think about IT problems or making management decisions that might put a ding in their careers.

  5. Am I missing something? by Silvrmane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    August 31, 2006. Christmas Season 2006. All of these things put it in the second half of 2006. How is this "much sooner" than the second half of 2006?

    1. Re:Am I missing something? by the_unknown_soldier · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes you are missing something. When the release was sheduled at the second half of 2006, nobody actually ever expected it to come out before 2010. 2006 is earlier than expected!

  6. Oh, please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, that's some accomplishment, beating some artifical ship date by a few months... when it's years late and has been gutted of its most-touted features so it could see daylight in this decade.

    NOT!

  7. doesn't make sense by TheWart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Am I missing something obvious, or is "Christmas 2006" actually later than "Second half 2006."

    At the very least they seem to be too close together to say it is shipping "much" earlier.

    1. Re:doesn't make sense by Bluey · · Score: 5, Informative

      Unless you celebrate Christmas very late, it's actually in the second half of 2006. The summary is a complete butchering of what the article actually says, which is something along the lines of:

      Microsoft's mum about when Vista will be available, other than "second half of 2006".
      Analysts decide this most likely means it will be released on "Christmas 2006".
      A MS Executive blog saying "code complete will be August 31, 2006" is leaked to a news organization.
      Analysts decide this most likely means it will be released on "October 2006" which is earlier than they previously guessed.

      No real news here other than analysts making as many different guesses as possible to hedge their bets.

  8. Better hope it's not being released too early by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or else you might have to have some string on hand for -

    Oh, wait. Wrong Microsoft product. My bad.

  9. They've done it before by DenmaFat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back when MS was shipping a new OS version every 18 months or so, I think they delivered a product earlier than originally planned at least once. It might have been Windows 98.

    Getting Vista installed on the fall OEM systems is probably their number 1 goal (quality and features be damned). They can always start taking out the really buggy stuff during the summer.

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  10. Interesting coincidence.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    All of the previous comments were submitted by members who joined Slashdot, apparently, within a few minutes or days at most of each other.

    Check out the members' numbers: if this were poker, it would be a straight-flush.
    1.(#14127838)
    2.(#14127840)
    3.(#14127841)
    4. (#14127843)
    5.(#14127845)
    6.(#14127850)

    And all were posted within two minutes or so of each other. What are the odds?

    And one or all of him, apparently, has moderator points, and is modding himself up.

    Perhaps there is a way to prevent Slashdot giving multiple accounts to jerkoffs.

    1. Re:Interesting coincidence.... by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Perhaps there is a way to prevent Slashdot giving multiple accounts to jerkoffs.

      Perhaps there's a way to educate ACs about which number is the User ID and which is the post number.

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  11. Re:Morons by DingerX · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh give me a break. Code complete. this thing will sing through QA. I'm telling you, Windows Vista will be the most perfect work of man since the Septuagint translation, and those guys had the advantage of only a 72-person dev team!

    There will be no bugs or security problems. And if there are any, well Microsoft can always postpone Christmas. They've done it before, haven't they?

  12. Are you involved with this conspiracy? by InsaneLampshade · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mr Anonymous Coward, your "member number" also appears to be convienently close to the previous comments, are you involved with this conspiracy?

  13. New Products on Christmas are a MUST. by _eb0la_reston_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    *Every* consumer-products company MUST have something NEW ready for Christmas (aka. peak sales period).

    If M$ *cannot* deliver Vista by September 1st, hardware vendors won't be able to ship their PCs with Vista on Christmas. In this case, I bet they will postpone their shipping date to late-January / mid-February 2006.

    As soon Vista is released, PCs with XP pre-installed will be sold at discount. M$ can't "punish" their customers (OEM, not end users) on their peak sales period:

    $peak_sales = $christmas ;
        big_profit ($christmas) unless ( ( $peak_sales == $discount ) || failed_business_model ) ;

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    1. Re:New Products on Christmas are a MUST. by medgooroo · · Score: 5, Funny
      If M$ *cannot* deliver Vista by September 1st, hardware vendors won't be able to ship their PCs with Vista on Christmas. In this case, I bet they will postpone their shipping date to late-January / mid-February 2006.
      I was sure you were going to say "I bet they will postpone christmas to late-January / mid-February 2006.
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  14. Thank god! by __aailob1448 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was wondering if everybody else was blind, stupid or crazy. I see that I was not alone.

  15. MS terminology... by andy55 · · Score: 4, Informative


    I worked with MS for a while, and their project managers use the milestone phrase "code complete" to mean that it's just testing and QA from there (meaning, of course, many many fixes and revs will be introduced into the code after this). So, assuming Chris Jones' comment about being Vista code being "complete" by Aug 2006 was referring to being "code complete," it doesn't say much about when Vista will ship--it just says when non-QA driven changes will no longer be able to get into the codebase past this date.