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The Real Revolution Comes May 9, 2006

Pichu0102 writes "Gamespot reports that a bevy of details will be released about the Nintendo Revolution at 2006's E3 event." From the article: "So when will be the Revolution's coming-out party? Unsurprisingly, it will be at next year's E3. Specifically, the console will be unveiled at Nintendo's pre-E3 press event, which is slated for 9:30 a.m. Pacific time on May 9, 2006. The venue will be the Kodak Theatre--home of the Academy Awards--in Hollywood, California."

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  1. Yet Another Story by BigDork1001 · · Score: 1
    I'm looking forward to the Revolution and all but I give this announcement a big... Meh. I'm looking forward to details of the Revolution and all but why start hyping it 5 months out?

    I don't know what's up lately with video game news, not just here but all over the net but it seems like sites are trying to do their best to crank out as many announcements, opinions, and predictions as possible. Each site trying to out do the other.

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    1. Re:Yet Another Story by Shad_the_protector · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why 5 month from now, easy, they try to just tell people "Just let us breath damn it, we pass more time trying to answer your damn questions about what you already know we don't want to speculate before long. So we are going to tell you everything at the next E3. Now let us work if you want this beautiful invention I'M TRYING TO DO......."

      That is basicly what I can see why they are announcing this now, 5 month before E3. This or they wanted to say it before it leaked out and be said as a rumor.

    2. Re:Yet Another Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm looking forward to details of the Revolution and all but why start hyping it 5 months out?

      To take the wind out of the sales of the xbox?

    3. Re:Yet Another Story by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 1

      It is because the industry has become so vapid and devioid of any real substance that everyone is grabbing for straws to get some news of any sort. I actually left my job as a reviewer/editor of console (PS2) titles because of this trend.

      The powers that be have their eyes set on making the game industry into the next Hollywood and they could give a damn what it actually means to the end user. It is sickening. If you would see it from the other side, you would instantly lose all faith in this industry... I have. The only sliver of hope I see is the Revolution though and they are the only company left focusing on the games.

      This article tells nothing that hadn't been known for some time, and is not newsworthy. Think about it though, over the past year basically NOTHING noteworthy has happened. Even the 360 release was pure hype, as it is it has been a super limited release, plagued by a few key design issues, and a handful of homoginized games that have no real soul or "killer app" potential. Yet it has been being trumpeted for almost a year. Even the current consoles have had nothing happening lately in the lull leading up to the next-gen releases. Basically, when you turn an industry into another Hollywood... you get it all the good and the bad... and as anyone can see by Hollywood's current troubles and slumps, it's mostly bad.

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  2. Just as importantly... by bluemeep · · Score: 1

    This wouldn't happen to include the release date, would it?

    1. Re:Just as importantly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am guessing they [nintendo] are announcing everything that day; release date, price, final name, release list of games. who knows, they may have some games play able.... [dreams of sweet revo goodness]

    2. Re:Just as importantly... by Hellad · · Score: 1

      I am wondering if Nintendo will make an Apple sort of debut. Show it off and then ship it off two weeks later. Apple has control of its own stores and the easy if phone/internet ordering, but Nintendo could try it all the same...

  3. Time to sit out in front of the Academy Awards.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dressed like Link from Zelda.. Maybe someone will take pity and let me in.

  4. Mmm.. wedding present... by BigZaphod · · Score: 1, Funny

    That's 3 days after I get married. It figures that the one next-gen console I'm actually looking forward to is to be released literally days after I lose my bachelorhood freedoms... Doh!

  5. alright... by David+Nabbit · · Score: 1

    Time to hibernate for five months.

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  6. Re:Mmm.. wedding present... by FLAGGR · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not being released, details are being revealed. I'm sure the Big N will leave you plenty of time for a divorce.

    Just kidding :) Best wishes

  7. Re:Mmm.. wedding present... by Winckle · · Score: 2, Funny

    psst Any true nerd would be listening to the news live whilst on honeymoon!
    Please leave your geek card in the tray by the door on the way out.

  8. But that means it'll be awhile... by Filiks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seems like Nintendo and Sony are both further behind than they cared to acknowledge a few months ago when there was speculation about an April or May launch. If the Revolution won't come until at least summer, perhaps Sony will go for a September or October release like the Dreamcast and PS2 had.

    1. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by FLAGGR · · Score: 1

      It's not Nintendo's job to meet speculations launch dates. Watch the TGS trailer, says "2006". The April/may predictions were based on financial forcasts released up until that time and that made april/may the earliest, and of course everyone wish it would just come out yesterday so those are the dates that people choose to believe.

    2. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by solive1 · · Score: 1

      What if they're not as behind as you think they are? What if Nintendo shows off the Revolution at E3 and pulls an Apple and says "You like the Revolution (or whatever its name may end up being)? Well it's shipping tomorrow and will be in stores next week. We're shipping millions of units all across the globe for a simultaneous release." That would be a revolution in itself.

      Wishful thinking? Probably. Impossible? Maybe, maybe not.

    3. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by BushCheney08 · · Score: 1

      And what about the third party developers? I seriously doubt that Nintendo would release a console with only their own franchises at launch-time.

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    4. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      I really don't understand what you're trying to prove here, unless you're a standard MS troll who thinks creating noise in game systems discussions validates your beliefs/proves you're right. If Nintendo and Sony were truly "worried" about "losing" or whatever, they'd be in a much higher gear than they are currently. I think that thier actions thus far (especially Nintendo's) just goes to show that the early launch of the 360 is nothing to "worry" about for them.

    5. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      I'm not trying to prove anything. I was hoping for a spring launch so I could play the new systems sooner.

    6. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Wait...WTF? Why are you trying to pretend you're the parent poster?

    7. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by Filiks · · Score: 1

      NeMon'ess is a friend of mine and came over to visit. He forgot to logout when he was done using my computer so my post was through his account.

    8. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about them? The entire Nintendo back-library available for purchase at launch. That, along with a strong punch of initial first-party Revolution releases will get them their beachhead against Sony, way before the PS3 launch. By the time PS3 launches, third-party devs will have caught up.

    9. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by cornface · · Score: 1

      NeMon'ess is a friend of mine and came over to visit. He forgot to logout when he was done using my computer so my post was through his account.

      What he's trying to say is that he has several accounts and he was posting from the wrong one.

      Whoops!

    10. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by ken+kenobi · · Score: 1
      Well realistically, I'd guess Sony are going to release PS3 ahead of the Revolution, they're much further along the track.

      Sony have had dev kits out for a while now and Cell chips rolling of the production line, so far Nintendo haven't shown more than non-functioning mock-ups of the hardware.

      While I look forward to seeing the Revolution when it's finally unveiled, I think we'll be waiting a while before we can buy one in the shops.

    11. Re:But that means it'll be awhile... by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      I admit nothing!

  9. Re:Mmm.. wedding present... by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not being released, that's just the date of its unveiling. Though for all we know they could announce the release date to be two weeks from then.

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  10. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by mrgreen4242 · · Score: 1
    although I still maintain that the PS2 controller is the greatest thumbstick controller ever to grace the earth

    Blech. The PS2 controller (just a dual shock PS1 controller) is the most unoriginal, boring, and overrated controller out there. I can just see the planning that went into that one... "Hey I have a good idea! Let's take a SNES controller and an N64 controller and kinda smoosh them together into this bland generic looking thing!" Again, blech!

  11. Disappointing Headline by dividedsky319 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I see the headline... I think "Woohoo, Revolution comes out May 9th 2006!"

    Then I read on... oh, that's when more information is going to be out...yippee?

    1. Re:Disappointing Headline by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Then I read on... oh, that's when more information is going to be out...yippee?"

      I'd expect it roughly a year from last week.

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    2. Re:Disappointing Headline by satoshi1 · · Score: 1

      Except for the part where it never gives a release date for the actual console. Helps to read the summaries.

  12. 10 seconds, eh? by Strell · · Score: 1

    I know of some...erm....exercises that could remedy that lack of stamina.

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  13. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you know how many people have asked Zonk not to keep posting stories about some subject for the last few months?

    My request is this. Don't be dismissive of the other two consoles until we know what the Rev is actually like to play.

    You probably want to say "don't praise the Rev before you know more" because I think it's quite possible to dismiss the X360 and/or PS3 without knowing anything about the Rev. You don't need to have an alternative when dismissing consoles, the conclusion "this genreation sucks, I'll dig out my Mega Drive again" is valid.

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  14. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Turken · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Assuming the controller works great, we don't know whether the games will truly take full advantage, enough that people will say "Damn, I MUST own that." It's a big question mark.

    I suggest you go back a re-read some of the gaming media articles written after Nintendo unveiled the controller. Most people writing the first round of articles did get to actually use the controller (granted, only for tech demos) and the general consesus was "Damn, I must own that." And that was just based on tech demos!

    As we've seen from every past console, the first games out may not be much better than tech demos, but the games that follow will quickly take advantage of the systems capabilities. Most of the concerns about arm fatigue and accuracy have come from people responding to the initial wave of reports - from people who have NOT had a chance to use it in person. Also, consider that when the Revolution is fully unveiled in May, it will be another six+ months after the initial controller was shown to the public. Nintendo will have had time to tweak an already impressive component to be even better based on the reactions of the public (both those who have tried the controller, and those who have not).

    So, while I do hate to wait until may to get all of the details, and then wait again until the console is finally released, I have absolutely no doubts that it will be an impressive machine when it launches, and will only get better with time.

  15. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Pluvius · · Score: 1

    I'm the same. I'm just going to keep playing games on my PC and my current-gen consoles for a while longer. Maybe I'll upgrade when the prices for the new consoles becomes reasonable.

    Rob

  16. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Pluvius · · Score: 1

    Yes, because the primary concern of controller design is aesthetics, not useability.

    Rob

  17. Important time frame? Time to make games by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1
    The important question is when will game developers get the information and tools they need to start making games. Will it be at the E3 or will that just give the generic stats of the system (processor, memory, etc.)?

    Also, how much time will there be from that point to the time the Revolution launches? I'm worried they aren't giving 3rd party developers enough time to make decent games for launch.

    1. Re:Important time frame? Time to make games by Ahnteis · · Score: 1

      I've read that a select few developers have some kind of dev kit. No, I don't have details and it was a second hand source.

    2. Re:Important time frame? Time to make games by inio · · Score: 1

      3rd party titles have never really mattered for Nintendo console launches, so this is really a non-issue.

    3. Re:Important time frame? Time to make games by ClamIAm · · Score: 1
      The important question is when will game developers get the information and tools they need to start making games.

      Well, it will OBVIOUSLY be the same time the general public gets this information. We all know developers can crank out sweet games in 3 months or whatever.

      Will it be at the E3 or will that just give the generic stats of the system (processor, memory, etc.)?

      If you are seriously this naive when it comes to the new-system lifecycle of consoles, you should probably go read up on a little history before trying to discuss these types of things. 3rd party developers typically have dev kits months before the general public sometimes knows anything about a system. They probably have some type of system right now (of course it's not final). Regarding decent launch games, I don't think we can really expect much in terms of launch games for this cycle of systems. The 360 launch games were definitely slightly shinier than what we've seen this generation, but they weren't "revolutionary" (har) in any way. I think the same will probably happen for the PS3 and Rev.

    4. Re:Important time frame? Time to make games by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1
      If you are seriously this naive when it comes to the new-system lifecycle of consoles, you should probably go read up on a little history before trying to discuss these types of things.

      I just asked questions that were important to me. I may have been ignorant, but the only way to solve that is to look for answers. You proved I wasn't naive to think I might hear some answers if I mentioned it on slashdot.

      3rd party developers typically have dev kits months before the general public sometimes knows anything about a system.

      So they had them before the last E3? That wasn't the impression I got from what I'd read.

    5. Re:Important time frame? Time to make games by justchris · · Score: 1

      No, the closest developers did not get devkits until shortly before TGS this year (in September I think). Supposedly the processor for the Rev has been finished, so they may have updated devkits soon.

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  18. Re:Mmm.. wedding present... by lotsotech · · Score: 4, Funny

    In fact if you're not reading the press release via your wireless gadget of choice while your new wife is sobbing in the corner during your honeymoon you'd better turn in your geek card now. Bonus points if said wireless device does not natively support wireless and isn't running its original OS.

  19. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Zangief · · Score: 1

    They weren't thinking that, when they designed that beautiful control pad, that it is a bitch to your thumb.

  20. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by ndogg · · Score: 1

    Do you go to Mac fanatics and tell them not to hold out hope for Apple's next hardware/software release?

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  21. This isn't news by metamatic · · Score: 1

    This isn't news. This is an announcement that there's going to be some news in 2006. What a waste of space.

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  22. Announcements: by MBCook · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Here are the announcements (some of which are my wishes):

    1. Price of $250 (reasonable, $300 at most)
    2. Includes two controllers (how 'bout it for once!)
    3. NES games are $0.99 (works for iTunes!)
    4. SNES games are $4.99 (they're better than NES, they say)
    5. Many games:
      • Mario
      • Pilotwings (come on, that controller looks PERFECT for it)
      • Metroid
      • Mario Paint
      • and more
    6. Released within the month (Don't make us wait longer!)

    Come on Nintendo! Give it to us! Sony just announce they will announce details at CES (Jan 6th). We'll see what happens.

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    1. Re:Announcements: by Headcase88 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      NES games for 99 cents, I wish.

      Nintendo overvalues their old games like crazy. NES classics on the GBA, what were those, like $20? I'm expecting Nintendo to charge $5 for NES game, $10 for a SNES game, and $15 for an N64 game best-case scenario.

      What they should do (and probably will) is bundle about $50 of download money with the Revo. That way, people will be like "$300, but I can buy up to $50 worth of old games, so it's only really $250". Even though in reality the "$50" won't stretch nearly as far as you'll want it to.

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    2. Re:Announcements: by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it'll likely be more expensive to play NES games on the Revolution than on my Xbox today.
      Of course it will also be legal...

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    3. Re:Announcements: by vexx0 · · Score: 0

      Acually it will probly be up to the developer of the game, as well as the availability. So more popular games are more money.

    4. Re:Announcements: by Delphiki · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is that Nintendo is more like the RIAA than Apple?

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    5. Re:Announcements: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize Nintendo is pushing the "value" card hard this generation, right? Also, that Nintendo hasn't launched a console for over $200 before, ever? The value card can't be played if a Revolution bundle costs as much as an Xbox 360 core (or more, since MS will likely cut the prices by next x-mas to try to head off Sony).

    6. Re:Announcements: by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      Yea, they were $20. It was part of a big retro-kick. You could buy an NES themed GBA and then NES games on it(in approximations of the original packaging). The packaging thing was directed at a specific audience, and they actually bought the things at the $20 price point. With a ROM download, you don't get the pretty packaging, so you can't charge as much for it.

      They frequently use older-games as a value add. Ala Metroid with Prime/Fusion. Punch Out in Fight Night. All of the NES titles in Animal Crossing. They also gave out all of the Zeldas bar Link to the Past and Wind Waker for free with a Gamecube at one point.

      I(and I'm not sure if I'm alone on this) view these ROM downloads as a value-add, not an additionally significant revenue source, and I'm sure Nintendo does so as well. So I would expect them to price them at a pretty sweet spot. Free - $5 depending upon the game for NES titles. The majority(not stuff like Super Mario 1-3 and Legend of Zelda) between $1-$2. And third parties charging their own amount, probably something similar, with product-tie ins when you nab a title. Get Metroid Prime 3? Get Super Metroid and Metroid for free. Stuff like that.

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    7. Re:Announcements: by 0biter · · Score: 1

      because nintendo is re-positioning itself as an "electronic toy company" rather than as a "console company" (the old "console wars" paradigm rapidly becoming anachronistic) i expect the revolution to be quite cheap, probably not more than $150 at launch for a basic set.

    8. Re:Announcements: by vexx0 · · Score: 0

      Accually I'm saying Nintendo is leaving the desision to the to the actual owners of the games to charge as much or little as they want. Nintendo's titles will probly stay at a cheap price to promote the service. But that is just my unproven psychic ability. I might(more than likely) be wrong. I guess will find out though.

  23. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Pluvius · · Score: 1

    I wasn't saying that the DS2 didn't have flaws, just that a criticism based on aesthetics is pointless. The example you gave is unfair, though; Nintendo held a patent on their D-Pad design, and there aren't many other ways you can construct a D-Pad.

    Rob

  24. Was there ever any doubt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, did you ever doubt that Nintendo was going to wait until E3 to give the 'Full Details' about the system? No (modern) system has ever launched without first having a large conference/expo where it could show itself off in full form; this has very little to do with gamers or play testing but is entirely about getting as much information to the press in as little of a time as possible. In 3 days worth of work Nintendo can have thousands of people from the Gaming media try out their system, interview their personalities, and build tons of hype that would take months to do otherwise.

    Now, what can you expect leading up to E3? Nintendo will downplay the Graphical Capabilities by releasing modest technical specifications on what they expect the system to perform like under real gameplay experiances, and Nintendo will release minor Revolution details about the Backwards compatibility and how Nintendo WiFi will work on the Revolution. No information about Revolution games will come out.

    At E3, expect the Revolution games to look as good or better than anything on the PS3 (except for it will be at 480p) thus shocking the gaming media; 2 unconventional Nintendo made games will be announced which demonstrate the system (they will be available at launch), 2 conventional games (Super Smash bros. and Probably Metroid Prime 3) will also be displayed and given a launch release date.

    This is what Nintendo does, they have a precise formula which always impresses the media and fans alike.

    1. Re:Was there ever any doubt? by floodo1 · · Score: 0

      amazing! an insightful post on a console topic on /. /end of world

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  25. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah and 14k gold is just gold smooshed together with some other metals in order to make a more durable product... What's your point?

  26. Re:Mmm.. wedding present... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    relax man, all that time you used to spend having sex, you can now use to play the revolution.
    e

  27. Yawn. by Kaimelar · · Score: 1

    Old news. I already know all the details about the Revolution I need, thanks to Penny Arcade:

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/08/28 :-)

  28. A Long Time for 'Cube to Hold On by Benedick · · Score: 1
    There was a recent news article about Nintendo's profit suffering due to sluggish GameCube sales. It has been in third place this generation and is surely being drowned now that the first of the next gen consoles is out. I can't help but wonder how far their profits will decline as the 'Cube gets further and further marginalized.

    The GBA, even the SP and Micro editions, is old news and is often viewed (incorrectly) as replaced by the DS. The DS itself is great (I love mine) but it hasn't captured the public's imagination nearly as well as the PSP. When I look at sales fliers for Best Buy, Circuit City, Game Stop, etc., Nintendo's products don't have anywhere near as much space as 360, PSP, or PS2. They are rapidly losing mindshare.

    Don't take me wrong. In my house, we have no XBox, no PSP, 1 GBC, 2 GBA, 2 GBA SP, 1 DS, 1 N64, and 1 GC (and 1 lonely, lovely Dreamcast), all in working order and all except the GBC get regular use. I really like Nintendo products. But I'm worried that the Revolution will trail the announcement by six months or more. If they give the 360 two Christmas seasons before bringing out the Revolution, they're toast in the home market. (They still may be fine in portables.)

    1. Re:A Long Time for 'Cube to Hold On by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Maybe i is because the DS sells itself AFAIN it still has sold more units and outsells teh PSP. Maybe PSP games/UMDs are far more prophitable for stores, maybe Sony pays stores for adds, and maybe more discs are sold per a PSP, but the DS is doing real well, and is still ignored because "gamers" ignore Nintendo, except for the ones that love them and don't need adds to keep on top of it.

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    2. Re:A Long Time for 'Cube to Hold On by fwitness · · Score: 1

      That's the first time I heard anyone even think Nintendo would miss two XMas seasons. I don't know where you come up with that, given the this announcement will be in may, plenty of time to make an '06 holiday season.
          However, it got me to thinking. What if Nintendo did skip a season? Sometimes you need to leave your crop fields fallow. What if Nintendo didn't compete *at all* with Sony and MS, and launched in mid '07? Then Nintendo could would not be facing two powerhouse consoles, but two aging systems. Their hardware could easily be better and cheaper to make than Sony/MS, and there would be absolutely nothing the competitors could do. You can't launch a console and then launch the next generation a year later. It's cutting the throat of your market.
          I don't know what all that would mean, other than disappointed geeks, myself included, but it's an interesting thought.

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    3. Re:A Long Time for 'Cube to Hold On by Hitto · · Score: 1

      Do you seriously think a console dies after its first or second birthday? Aging systems my arse, they'd be in their prime, getting second-gen games by the truckload and an installed userbase.
      Look, the DS is one year old. Right now, I don't have enough time to play every game I want to play on it, because of the holy Mario Kart. There's a slew of games I'm waiting for, and they're pretty far off.

      Nintendo will release their best sellers just in time for christmas. I think they missed it one time, with some powerhouse game (not sure if it was zelda 64 or another one, no, no definitely not zelda 64...), and decided never to miss it again.

      And who said the rev would have sucky specs? The GC also had supposedly sucky specs. And mac users know about the "megahertz myth", why don't we, us nerd gamers?

    4. Re:A Long Time for 'Cube to Hold On by fwitness · · Score: 1

      No I dont think a console dies after a year or two, but people love shiny and forget "a year ago" like it was something anthropologist should study. There is really no reason to buy a 360 right now, other than the fact it's new, yet sell they do. I was thinking if Nintendo waited a bit, they would have the shiny on their side in addition to having good games.

      As to sucky specs, I never said that, but I don't think poly-pushing is where nintendo is going with the revolution. Were it to launch at the same time as the PS3, I think that graphically speaking the Rev would be the duller of the two.

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    5. Re:A Long Time for 'Cube to Hold On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DS itself is great (I love mine) but it hasn't captured the public's imagination nearly as well as the PSP. When I look at sales fliers for Best Buy, Circuit City, Game Stop, etc., Nintendo's products don't have anywhere near as much space as 360, PSP, or PS2. They are rapidly losing mindshare.

      The DS is outselling the PSP right now in every territory, and has been for months. I think the public knows about the DS, and they seem to like it.

      But then, why would the 360 and PSP be advertised more? Maybe because they are more expensive products? And because, unlike the DS, the PSP and 360 have a number of perhipherals which are extremely lucrative for a store like Best Buy to try to sell along with the console and games?

  29. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 1

    As opposed to the prices of keeping your computer up to date?

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  30. Metaannounce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, they announced that they going to announce when they are going to announce when the Revoluton will hit the stores. Damn.

    I am hoping for an impressive lineup, the one that includes games like Pikmin 3, Eternal Darkness 2, possibly a new Zelda (but not likely because Twighlight Princess release is too close) and a brand new franchise already announuced for the Revolution debut; possible some interesting ways of connecting and using DS with Revolution...

    The price should be $199.

  31. Revolution by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 1

    Anybody with an old phono turntable knows that 'revolution' just means spinning in place on a spindle.

    33-1/3 Revolutions Per Minute? That beats out even Che and Castrato.

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  32. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Zangief · · Score: 1

    I don't buy your "Oh Nintendo has patents! they don't let people be happy!" argument. Look at the Sega Dreamcast controller. It has a fricking Control Pad. So you can have a control pad, and not break Nintendo's Patent. Sony just did it the wrong way.

  33. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by jx100 · · Score: 1

    I believe the reason they could construct that pad was because the patent ran out on it just before the system was released.

  34. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by justchris · · Score: 1
    My problem with the PS3 is that, despite the fact that it seems otherwise, we actually know less about it than we do the Revolution. Hopefully that will be fixed at CES in January, but up to this point, all we really have is specs. They've shown the system and the controller, but nothing that says whether it plays or feels any better.

    At least with Microsoft they put all the information out well in advance of the console release so we had an idea what we were getting.

    At least with Nintendo they've let people (even if only a few) play around with the controller and give feedback. They've put out a commercial that displays some of the ideas behind what they're doing, so even if they haven't shown any games, you get a feel for what they're trying to do.

    With the PS3, I just feel like they've said, "It's like a PS2, except with a different CPU & GPU! And we redesigned the controller! And it has games! Isn't that great!" Unlike Microsoft & Nintendo, it doesn't seem like Sony has any kind of concrete design philosophy, and with Microsoft pushing Live lilke mad, and Nintendo trying to get everyone to appreciate their new control design, that can only come off as a flaw.

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  35. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by tepples · · Score: 1

    As opposed to the prices of keeping your computer up to date?

    "Casual" games that are compatible with my 5-year-old PC are still being made and sold. Besides, a PC is the best platform for learning how to develop games.

  36. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Zangief · · Score: 1

    Wrong.

    Gunpei Yokoi created the control pad around 1982, for the Game and Watch. So any Nintendo patent on the control pad comes after 1982. More probably it would be around 1985, when the system was launched on the U.S.

    Utility patents last 20 years. So, in the best case, it expired in 2002.

    BUT, the Dreamcast was launched on 1998 in Japan, 1999 in the U.S. So simply it was impossible for the patent to have expired by that time.

    Conclussion. Sega did what Sony didn't. To create a good control pad without stepping on Nintendo's patent.

  37. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by Pluvius · · Score: 1

    Well, let's see. I'd say I've spent about $1200 or so on PC hardware in the past six years. Sounds like a decent sum, but then I can and do use my computer for a hell of a lot more than playing video games, not to mention the variety of games that PCs can play. And I'm including parts that stopped working long before they should've died; otherwise the price would be more like $900.

    I also don't care about keeping my computer "up-to-date." Beyond getting a cheap DVD burner, I haven't upgraded in two years, and that was mostly to replace those malfunctioning parts I referred to above. I replaced them with mid-range stuff, as well. If it can run a new game without completely choking, I'm fine with it.

    Compare that to consoles, which will end up being well over $1000 every four years if the current trends hold, and all they can do well is play video games unless you hack them. Sure they'll be on the bleeding edge of gaming, but I really don't need that sort of thing any more.

    Rob

  38. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 1

    Yea, I don't recall ever claiming any sort of utility posessed by consoles in the PC department. If you want a PC, then great, do the things a PC can do. But it's getting old to hear people boast that PC's are so great for gaming. You don't seem to be making that same comparison but instead jumped in with your own scenario. That's great. Good for you. But the point I was making wasn't to say that consoles are better than PC's, both have their advantages and somebody who wants a PC would be stupid to get a console. But saying that being a console gamer is significantly more expensive than being a PC gamer? That's just retarded.

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  39. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 1

    Ok, and who says I can't be happy playing the same games for 5 years? Because I really am, though I see your point, my point is that I could be equally content with old console hardware. And when did anybody ever argue against the fact that PC's are the best platform for learning how to develop games? Where do these arguments come from for you people? No, I don't expect anybody to learn how to make games on a Revolution, that would be silly. Oh no, you got me.

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  40. What a great coincidence... by MadMoses · · Score: 1

    That's my birthday =) Coming up with a wishlist next year will be really easy ;)

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  41. When's the system coming out again? by lpangelrob · · Score: 1
    Isn't it about this time next year, or have analysts expected it to be pushed back to 2007?

    12 months is a looong time to get excited about a console. People got really hyped up about the Cube within this timeframe, too....

  42. Re:A Polite Request to the Nintendo Community by sesshomaru · · Score: 1
    To paraphrase a Ken Kutaragi interview based on my impressions:

    How much is the PS3 going to cost?

    KK: Oh, it'll be expensive.

    Well, how expensive?

    KK: Well we aren't going to say yet, but trust me, it'll be expensive.

    Can you give us a ballpark?

    KK: [Thinks]Well, you probably can't afford one... maybe if you get a second job. It'll be worth it for the PS3...

    Well, like $400? $500? More?

    KK: You don't want to know.

    etc...

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