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RIAA vs Linux and DVDs
PlayfullyClever writes "The entertainment industry has put itself on the fast-track to destruction, using well-proven tactics as explained in Preventing DVD Playback on Linux Like Prohibition in the 1920's. Are their heavy-handed tactics to lock up and control everything we touch signs of plain old human stubborness?" Or more likely- greed.
I think you have to read the related article to get the RIAA link. {a href=http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/48802 />The RIAA - Hollywood - DRM - Linux Suicide Pact
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See subject.
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It hasn't. Bittorrent taken a bit hit, but other networks have taken up the slack. As of a few months ago, Emule/Edonkey was the number one system.
It's still probably the greatest source of wealth creation on internet, and definitely is the greatest source of traffic.
The RIAA - Hollywood - DRM - Linux Suicide Pact
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Shouldn't that be the MPAA, not the RIAA, which would have an issue with Linux circumventing the encryption of DVDs?
Some history about the Linux flap:g arfinkel.txt
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/archive/
Some other page I found by accident about file sharing:
http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/howto-notgetsued.php
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Submitter, aka PlayfullyClever trying to use the /. crowd's love for linux+entertainment to bump up his google page rank on the site he just registered yesterday?
Why else would TFA have nothing to do with the submission?
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MPAA DVD FAQ
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Some computer users say they only want to use DeCSS to view their DVDs on computers that use the Linux operating system. Windows- and Macintosh-based computers can play DVDs, so is it fair to deprive the Linux community?
The Linux argument is a false issue. It has always been in the interest of the Motion Picture industry that there be as many legitimately licensed DVD players as possible, including those using non-Windows operating systems. However the argument that DeCSS was written for Linux players is simply false. The De-CSS utility was written for Windows-based software, not Linux.
Also, the development of two, separate, licensed DVD players for Linux systems - which use the CSS system - were recently announced. Sigma Designs (www.sigmadesigns.com) and InterVideo Inc. (www.intervideo.com) both announced the roll-out of LICENSED, LEGAL Linux-based DVD players.
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SO they claim the purpose of DeCSS is for copying movies on windows, not for simply viewing them on Linux, intersting..
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The Longest Yard DVD has ArccoS copy protection on it. Google it for more info. That's right, another copy protection scheme using bad blocks to prevent copying.
It's a poorly written, poorly reasoned screed, similar in content and quality to a high school writting assignment about how the "evil RIAA/MPAA/Microsoft are doomed. I can't understand for the life of me why it was posted to the front page.
Think I'm wrong? What else could possibly explain the phenomenom of boy bands and teeny bopper recording artists?
Obviously the submitter didn't RTFA, so here are some real links: Here Here and here
Sounds like you paid quite a bit for it to me. The MPAA got their cut already from Apple, if you could download OSX legally and without payment, it would not come with a DVD player.
They cannot get over the idea that once you purchase something it no longer belongs to them.
Likewise, there are a lot of folks on the other side of the fence, who can't get over the idea that purchasing a CD does not give them the right to distribute copies of that CD to a million of their closest friends.
This is why they call people "pirates" when they do what they want with their own stuff.
Pop quiz: Who went to the Supreme Court to defend the idea that a manufacturer of a device that can be used for piracy is not liable for the actions of end users who abuse it for such activity, so long as the device has "substantial non-infringing uses"? Answer: Sony, a member of both the RIAA and MPAA. Who, in the same case, helped establish the precedent that time-shifting is legal under the "fair use" provision of US copyright law? Again, Sony did.
The *AA's have not, to the best of my knowledge, taken any sort of action against someone who was simply time- or media-shifting "their own stuff." In fact, as shown above, at least one member of these cartels has gone to a lot of trouble to defend your right to do just that.
They have, on the other hand, filed many lawsuits where the target of the lawsuit was allegedly distributing copies of "stuff" without having obtained a legal license to do so. That's an entirely different kettle of fish.
I dislike the media monopoly as much as anyone - in fact, I'd read and been alarmed by Bagdikian's "Media Monopoly" book before most of the people here had even heard of the RIAA or MPAA. But let's be realistic - straw-man arguments and paranoid, ill-informed rantings are not helpful to the cause.
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As long as the decoder is just an external module (library) there is no GPL violation whatsoever. Having xine sources and altering those sources in any kind (including dvd decoding capability for example) and by this creating a derivative work from xine WOULD be GPL violation.
Actually, Sony was a member of neither RIAA nor MPAA at the time of the Betamax decision. They bought CBS Records/Columbia Pictures years later. It's an open question whether they would ever have created the VCR market if they were also a record company/movie studio in the 1970s.
You're correct. I wrote the article with the link and that doesn't have anything to do with the subject. The article that Playfully Clever should have submitted is this one:
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/48802/index.h tml
Probably the organization that might have an interest in this would be the DVD-CCA. This organization owns the rights to license CSS and region encoding. From their point of view, it's their technology that's being compromised by DVD Jon et al, and it might make sense for them to create a "legal alternative" that makes it unnecessary for programs like VLC to contain CSS decoders. Another group would be the movie studios, or, say, their representative, the MPAA. This institution, at the very least might have an interest in something that would boost the value of the DVDs their members sell.
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IIRC - Hemp is a better fibre than cotton - at least FAR easier to grow, seeing as it grows like a weed
Hemp is _not_ a better fiber than cotton for most purposes, which is why back before it was banned in 1930 there were only about 1300 acres of land cultivated for hemp in the US and only a couple thousand tons total consumption (including imports), almost all of it used for rope. (And no, Dow didn't squash hemp use to promote its new nylon; nylon at that time was used almost exclusively in pantyhose, which is a market hemp was never in).
Among other things, hemp fiber has poor absorbency (making it terrible for paper products) and is quite coarse (making it poor for most clothing uses). Hemp cellulose has no consistent grain and doesn't make for construction-grade lumber. It makes for fine canvas, rope, particle board, and passable jeans, but you absolutely wouldn't want to wear fine clothing or even T-shirts made from hemp fiber unless you're making a political statement--and even those are a hemp/cotton blend since pure hemp is really lousy for those applications..
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The person submitting the article picked the wrong link out of another story. Glad it was me.
The article that should have been submiited is: The RIAA - Hollywood - DRM - Linux Suicide Pacthttp://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/48802/index.
So invest in a copy of AnyDVD (quick, before the RIAA sues them!). It acts a lot like the nefarious driver-level copy protection, except the opposite - it allows you to do more, rather than less. I know it works with other Sony discs, like Kung Fu Hustle.
But the ability to view implies the ability to rip. What, in the end, is viewing, if not ripping to video memory rather than to the hard disk?
Effectively what we're doing is something like
$ cat /dev/dvd | decss | videoplayer | /dev/videocard
That's a legitimate use for decss, right? Viewing. But what if instead we
$ cat /dev/dvd | decss | transcode > piratecopy.mpg
As the earlier post said: we need decss in order to view these DVDs. However, by its very nature that also allows us to rip. The same is true of commercial, closed source, Windows DVD players, it's just that there it's rather more difficult to obtain the decrypted video data and direct them to the hard disk rather than to the video card.
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I think you're wrong about that, and I'll prove it with my Open Source Beer:
Mash grain at 150 degrees in 80 oz. water for 20 minutes. Sparge with 80 oz. water at 170 degrees. Add extract, 1 1/2 oz. Nugget, 2 tsp. gypsum. Add water to about 3 gallons. Bring to a boil. Boil for 15 min., add 1/2 oz Nugget. Boil for 30 minutes, add 1/2 oz Perle. Boil for 15 minutes (total 1 hour boil).
Cool to 75 degrees, then pitch yeast.
Ferment for about 1 week, rack to secondary, add 1 1/2 oz. cascade.
Allow secondary to ferment for about 1 week. Rack to priming bucket, adding about 5 oz. priming sugar (preferred) or dry malt extract. Bottle. Allow about 30 days before refrigeration.
THIS RECIPE LICENSED UNDER THE GPL.
There you go!
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Put down the moonshine and re-study your history. The Prohibition movement was far from a majority; they were an extremely vocal minority, sufficiently large and well organized to be able to swing elections, and motivated by a religious belief that the ends justified the means, pushed a large variety of bad science about the degree of harm of alcohol. The analogy to the prohibition may not be that bad after all, although the religious right in general and the intelligent design movement in particular are probably closer to the prohibition movement than the copyright forces.
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