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Vista To Be Updated Without Reboots
UltimaGuy writes "Microsoft is working on a new feature for Windows Vista, known as Restart Manager, which will update parts of the operating system or applications without having to reboot the entire machine. From the article: 'If a part of an application, or the operating system itself, needs to updated, the Installer will call the Restart Manager, which looks to see if it can clear that part of the system so that it can be updated. If it can do that, it does, and that happens without a reboot.'"
There is no reboot, just a breif BSOD, then you're back at teh login screen.
Are you...Are you some kind of genius?
No, ma'am, I'm just a regular Slashdot reader.
Damn! We should copy this feature into Linux! oh, wait....
what they forget to mention is you have to stand on one leg and hold a metal rod while a thunderstorm is occuring..
I think it still might be a better idea to reboot to linux and go from there :-)
What will I do all day long now?
One ring to bind them - should probably have more fiber and less rings in their diet.
So, with this new feature, will windows be ready for the desktop? Because it is years now that we hear "this year is THE year, it is ready for the desktop !"
to go into safe mode and uninstall the damage done by the update.
...of the new Restart Manager is the Dolby Stereo 5.1 system. It checks whether it can update without reboot, sees that there's no fucking way, then plays a sound behind your back - you turn and presto! - no reeboot needed!
Maybe it's sarcasm? No, that's unpossible Slashdot is to regard all matters with the utmost of seriousness.
They should win an award or something.
when I see it... 3 years from now when Vista is released.
They are typically called System Administrators.
If you ignore the other uses of a tool, does that make the tool less useful, or you less useful?
So it contacts the restart manager, and if it says it is possible to update without restart, it doesn't restart? And if, say it returns false, then it would still have to restart. I'm betting some intern made this:
class RestartManager {
public boolean canUpdateWithoutRestart() {
return false;
}
}
I wish the hell they would just make the the damned thing more stable in the first place.
Microsoft acts like a kid who won't eat his vegetables, won't do his homework, won't clean up after himself and won't take out the garbage and yells, "Hey, hey Ma look! I can balance a beachball on my nose! Aren't you proud of what a clever boy I am?"
I'd like to take Billg by the hair and tell him, "No Windows Vista for you young man until you fix all the broken crap in XP! And stop making faces at cousin Linus."
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Stick with something older if you want, sheesh. All software has bugs, your post is so stupid on so many levels it makes me regret reading it.
Why is it that every Microsoft solution involves a "manager"? They never seem to get to the point and just fix a problem. Instead, we get these grandiose stacks of hierarchy. It's like the French government is behind every design decision.
Only on slashdot would a stupid post which seems like it's built on top of some fucking "bad post template" be modded to +5 Interesting...
The AACS key is NOT 0xF606EEFD628B1CA427BEA93A9CA9773F
What's with the kid that always crosses the finish line last and somehow always gets perceived as the leader?
Why does every topic have to come down to politics and the Bush administration?
Ok, so what happens when someone learsn to trick this reboot manager into doing theiur bidding. Say a virus, trojan, or worm "learns" how to get this thing to work for it. It's a system process right? Thus should have some pretty hefty access priviliges and probably a million holes to have to plug. I'm waiting for the new generation of bugs and security holes that can be exploited just from one new aspect of this OS. Way to go Microsoft!
Well, at least you won't have to reboot.
wow, not enough sleep last night + too much coffee.
Call me a pessimistic, but I put this one in snowball's chance in hell likelihood. I mean, it's just as likely as the Israelis giving up Gaza Strip, the Red Sox and White Sox winning World Series, and Oprah appearing on the Late Show with Dave Letterman. And we all know those things won't happen.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Ah yes, the Dreaded Remote Punch Cards.
"Piter, too, is dead."
"In a small way, Windows NT is a Unix." -Bill Gates
I will never regard all matters with the utmost seriousness.
Sincerely,
That's Unpossible!
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
Same here...
But on mine, I have a well preserved sound effect of a thumb flipping across the edge of a stack of cards.
However, it's trivial to extract a package's components by hand, unlink any in use kexts or halt any processes with open files that need to be updated, and place the new files from the package where the belong. Then you can restart the updated kexts and launch the updated processes yourself.
Are you entirely sure you know what "trivial" means?
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In my experience, Linux devs are smug geeks who think they're hardcore because they build the apps they use from the source. The last Linux dev I worked with was a goddamn fucking incompetent muppet*. What's your point?
There are idiots in every profession. I've worked with lots of Windows devs, and I've never met one who loved 'their restarts and drive defrags'.
Btw:
Nero is probably a bad example - it talks to hardware in a way that most apps don't. But come to think of it, I don't think I had to reboot the last time I installed Nero.
And as for 'every single installer would restart the computer', I'll grant you that some installers insist on a restart for seemingly arbitrary reasons, but 'every single' one? Not even close.
If you're going to rag on Windows installers, complain about something valid, like the fact that many of them seem to think that installing the software is the most important thing you will ever do and so cover the screen with a full screen window (if you're unlucky, with the BGBG), and try to prevent you using your system while it's doing something as radical as making a new directory and copying some files into it (oh noes!)
* Sorry, still angry about that fucking over-confident smug arrogant twat of a know-nothing ham-fisted couldn't program or design a database schema his way out of a wet paper bag if his fucking life depended on it shithead, whose 4 months of work I had to throw away and rewrote in 3 weeks to a much higher standard, including the time taken to learn the web framework that he was supposedly expert in. But it's ok, the nurse says I'm making progress.
I can already see this coming... Less computer savvy friends telling me "Look how good the new Windows is! You dont even need to reboot after changes!" And then I'll be smacking their heads into nearby concrete repeatedly whilst screaming profanity mixed with '*nix has done this forever' type phrases.
Actually, it doesn't reboot. Updating is completely reboot-less. If something can't be rebooted the system just switches into Windows 95 Special Compatibility Mode, ie. it bluescreens. You can also turn on the Advanced Administrator Mode, in which case the system will attempt to overwrite the associated files until it gets an error and then bluescreens. The "Advanced Administrator" part refers to the fact that you have to be an MCSE to get the system back into a working state afterwards.
Linux kernel hackers have announced that they will get this feature out before the launch of Windows Vista. The Linux implementation will be called Automated Self-Trashing; the first alpha versions are already out, but so far it only works on IA-64 and SPARC.
Apple has announced that they are too cool for this and instead released HFS++, a file system that stores all files randomly splattered across "forks", "spoons" and "knives", which will make system recovery useless as no one can tell whether a particular piece of data is a filename, a QuickTime movie or the boot sector. This technology, also called Au Revoir, will make it easier than ever to trash sensitive data.
Hurd developers have simply pointed out that non-functionality is the default state of their operating system.
USE HOT GRITS WITH STATUE OF NATALIE PORTMAN (NAKED AND PETRIFIED)
When there was a vulnerability in PHP, I killed everybody because I wasen't sure
Isn't that a bit drastic?
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You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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