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Computer Jobs -- How to Resign Professionally?

MikeDawg asks: "I submitted a letter of resignation yesterday, and today I'm at home posting stories to my weblog and Slashdot. I gave my employer two weeks notice, and almost immediately, I had my accounts disabled, and my permissions revoked on all the computers at my work, which makes me unable to do anything in my position of being a 'Systems Analyst/Systems Administrator'. I spoke with the HR rep, and gave her my notice yesterday, then I spoke with her today about what had happened to my access, and they honored my resignation... 2 weeks early. (Luckily, I'm compensated in pay for the next two weeks). What I want to know is, how do you computer and IT professionals out there put in your notice of resignation (if you are with a permanent employer, and not contractual), and not get immediately shutdown, and shunned away from the computers? The CIO immediately thought I was going to do something terrible to the system, and destroy accounts, and any other activity that I have access to, but I was giving him notice that I was leaving. What is the professional thing to do?"

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  1. What did you expect? by Sylvestre · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're a liability. You got paid. Be happy.

    1. Re:What did you expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You got paid two weeks without responsibilty to do anything else - take the money and move on, that's being professional...

    2. Re:What did you expect? by Fishstick · · Score: 5, Informative

      Really - this is SOP in many, if not most places. At my company, anyone with "sensitive" access is immediately revoked upon receipt of written resignation. Period.

      I would be more surprised to hear anything else.

      --

      There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    3. Re:What did you expect? by Jackhamr · · Score: 5, Funny

      I would try to give a 6 month written notice then.

    4. Re:What did you expect? by ajs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've never worked for anyone who thought like that. In fact, I'm pretty sure I WOULDN'T work for someone who seemed to think like that. It's just unprofessional. When I resign, I give 3-4 weeks notice, and I expect the company to make the most of my time. I usually have an equity stake in the company, and I want them to succeed just as much as they do. If your company is treating you this way it is for one of two reasons: 1) they don't trust you or 2) they feel compelled to behave in a detrimental manner because a manager with either too much or too little authority thinks it's their job.

      Now FIRING SOMEONE... that's different. In that case, I compartmentalize them starting the day before, backing up anything that they can touch. I then shut off their machine after they leave, remove or lock accounts and remove their remote access if they had it.

      This is all as much for their benefit as mine. If they had no means of access after they found out, no one can accuse them of anything.

      I also ALWAYS offer to forward people's mail, though that's gotten harder in the last few years. Companies now feel that there's too much of a chance of mail being sent to their old account with proprietary information in it. Oh well.

    5. Re:What did you expect? by JanneM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A mature, thoughtful organization would realize a couple of things. First, he is sitting with a whole lot of implicit knowledge about the current assignments. Having him spend the last two weeks document it all and bringing other people up to speed on it is a pretty good idea.

      Second, he is leaving. There is a reason for it. Is it the salary? Personal conflicts? The hours? Too little challenge, or too heavy a workload? Is there a problem with the social climate at the IT department? A good organization will want to know, and conduct exit interviews to see if there are points they should improve. Perhaps even catch a disaster in the making before it explodes in their faces.

      Third, he is now an ex-employee. He will go out in the world and socialize with his peers at other companies - some of whom his previous employer may well want to hire at some point in the future. If his final impresion of the company is that of a bunch of posterior orifices, that's what he'll be telling people when they ask him about his opinion on applying for a position there. If, on the other hand, they do a good job of taking care of him up until the moment his contract ends, showing interest as above and so on, the impression will be vastly better, and they'll effectively be sending out a PR representative that will be giving a much better impression about the company for years to come.

      So yes, there are very good reasons not to just cancel his passcard and give him thirty minutes to pack his personal belongings before having him escorted out by a rent-a-cop.

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      Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
    6. Re:What did you expect? by mallie_mcg · · Score: 5, Funny

      He was lucky.

      I resigned almost two weeks ago and still have two weeks left before my four week notice period is up.

      I will continue to do my job cabably until the very end and won't be doing anything malicious, it is our corporate culture that people (even those in powerful/trusted positions) work to the very end of their contract.

      I'm surprised how well the boss took me writing "I resign" on the whiteboard though.

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    7. Re:What did you expect? by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'll tell you the point.

      No supervisor, no HR flack and no VP ever got fired for running off an employee that gave notice. OTOH, there's a fair possibility that they could be fired if the employee did something grievious after giving notice.

      --
      "Eve of Destruction", it's not just for old hippies anymore...
    8. Re:What did you expect? by AndyKron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've personally never seen anyone being escorted to the door unless it was something they were being fired for. People have always been allowed to finished their two weeks. Hell, we usually need more than those two weeks to pick their brains dry of all their tribal knowledge! I'd hate to have a key person leave the company, leaving us to figure out their job without their input. Ex employees are also usually available for consultation after they leave, too. At least this has been my personal experience, and what I've seen for others that I've worked with.

      -AC

    9. Re:What did you expect? by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Some organisations will lock you out as a matter of policy as soon as you "betray" your intentions, but I've had much better treatment the last couple of times I left a job. Presumably because they knew I was trustworthy.

      One employer left my key accounts in place (disabled) and hired me to do some consulting ("temp work", really) using those (re-enabled) accounts afterward.

      The last place I quit amazed me at just how trusting they were: On my last day on the job (after giving notice), my boss, his managerial peers, and their boss were all unavailable, so I had to find a "responsible individual" in the department (a non-manager with more seniority than me) to give my keys to that afternoon. At the end of the day, I was actually left alone in the data center with both login and physical access to critical systems (to say nothing of the office kitchen and storage room). They trusted me to shut down my computer, turn off the interior lights, and lock the door behind me on the way out. (Which - considering that I was quitting in part because I hated how the place was run - was rather naive.)

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    10. Re:What did you expect? by kogus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How resignations are handled are really an indicator of the hiring process, not the termination process. If a company goes out of it's way to hire people who are trustworthy, and treats them with respect while they are employees, then it isn't necessary to lock users out. On the other hand, if the hiring process is slack or employees are treated poorly, then these procedures are an absolute necessity.

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      A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.
    11. Re:What did you expect? by IAmTheDave · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If a company treated me that way, it would be worth flipping them the bird... along with three customers and a couple of line cooks who happened to get in the way....

      I couldn't disagree more. Speaking of professionalism, doing what the CIO did was probably just as professional as your resignation. There may be policies in place that dictate his actions, or more probably, your resignation ended your employ, and they took action to protect their assets.

      As others have posted, you get paid for two weeks, so they show professionalism again by not trying to rob you of the pay for the two weeks notice you have given. However, expecting that you'll have carte blanche access to the systems during your two last weeks is a bit silly. Most people spend that time backing up code to personal computers or otherwise stealing IP belonging to the employer.

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    12. Re:What did you expect? by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think parent post is bang on.

      If the management has _any_ brains, they realize you would have/could have committed nefarious acts _before_ giving notice. The termination of system access is absolutely _not_ personal. It will be mandated by policy in many places and in fact protects the person who gave notice. If you gave notice and something "bad" happened immediately afterwards, server crash, corrupt database _whatever, suspicion would naturally fall on, you the terminated employee, unless you had no access to the systems.

      As someone else has said, just take the pay and smile for 2 weeks. Where I work, you wouldn't have got past security the next day... again, nothing personal, just policy.

    13. Re:What did you expect? by Skynyrd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Really - this is SOP in many, if not most places. At my company, anyone with "sensitive" access is immediately revoked upon receipt of written resignation. Period.

      A former place of employment was so bad, that when I was leaving on poor terms, I was asked (by the head of HR) for "all the passwords I knew". I had to explain that if I told them to him, I'd still know them and could use them. He was shocked when I informed him that his IS staff would have to figure out how to change a hundred passwords.

      It was a great place to leave.

    14. Re:What did you expect? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I am a contractor now, having shunned full time work myself. Why? because it is my experience that companies are in it for themselves regardless of the impact the have for their employees.

      That's funny, because as an IT decisionmaker at a company, I have shunned contractors. Why? because it is my experience that contractors are in it for themselves regardless of the impact the have for the company that's giving them money.

  2. My way is fun... by Highlordexecutioner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Although it is not very professional.

    Of course mine was just my review, but it sort of acted like a resignation letter.

    Strengths: Over the last six months I have had the opportunity to learn how to smile when given projects that offer no challenge at all. Furthermore I can now hide my disdain for co-workers that have more in common with parasitic worms than with human beings. I've also grown to recognize the importance of recognition via comparison. For instance, I recognize that our environment here at (insert company name here) is really wonderful compared to other companies - the same way Syphilis is a great improvement over A.I.D.S.. Then there is the multitude of tasks that I can do with my eyes closed. It's truly a wonder how many mundane tasks I can accomplish with no effort at all. And lastly there is my recent discovery of how to divide by zero.

    Weaknesses: Sometimes, I have trouble accepting that I actually am flawless.

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    Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?
  3. Re:What's the question again? by RodgerDodger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, as you say, the OP got paid anyway, but...

    In every job I've had that I've left (five in the last 12 years), I've never had my access cut off until I actually leave. I've always worked until the last day, and I would be surprised if an employer didn't want me to. Mind you, I've never been fired, and in all but one case, I was actually on fairly good terms with my employer. I've never even heard of employers terminating access for people who are leaving of their own accord.

    As a matter of fact, in most of the occasions I've left a job, I needed to keep access to the last minute to assist with a smooth handover of my work.

    In a situation where an employee has notified their employer that they wish to resign, there is no security risk in letting them keep their access (and do their job) until they leave. If they were disgruntled and were going to do anything nasty, they would already have done it prior to tendering notice.

    (It's a very different situation if the employee is let go, of course)

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    "Software is too expensive to build cheaply"
  4. Re:You did the right thing... it's their problem. by IntlHarvester · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had an old boss that taught me this trick about 10 years ago -- When a sysadmin quits, give him a two week paid vacation and immediately change all the passwords. Most of them had something lined up anyways, and if they weren't backdooring things, they were just going to sit around shorttiming it.

    Funny thing was nearly every system admin that resigned attempted to access the systems during their enforced vacation. Probably nothing malicious, but since you don't know that, it's a wise policy.

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    Business. Numbers. Money. People. Computer World.
  5. Corporations as Psychopaths by Alien54 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    explain to me how he is any more of a liability then before he gave notice.

    that's right... he isnt.

    managers are just jackasses and dont have a grip on reality.

    The reason being that the vast majority of corporations would be classified as criminal psychopaths if they were human beings. There is even a big documentary/movie on this point.

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    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  6. Re:Liability by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, they have insurance liability if they don't lock you out and something bad happens.

    Because someone, somewhere gave notice and then got mad during the last 2 weeks and did something nasty.

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    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  7. The best way to quit IMO: by neo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reverse Firing

    In the corporate world you often get reviewed for your performance. The meetings are uncomfortable affairs where your manager goes down a checklist of things that 'could use improvement'. On Quit Your Job Day, you'll be calling a review meeting of your own. Create a list of things the company needs improvement in. Watch your manager squirm as you point out bad health benefits, impenetrable paperwork, inhuman working environments and other OSHA related problems. At the end of your review look your manager straight in the eye and ask 'What would you do if you were me?', pause and then announce 'I'm afraid I'm going to have to let you go.'

    More ways to quit at:
    http://www.quityourjobday.com/

  8. Re:Australia isn't First World? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny

    Australia isn't First World?

    He said South Australia. It's different down there, and a little scary. They've named their cricket team after a spider and make beer out of sewage. Their main football team wears the German flag for a jumper, and the state capital was designed by an obsessive-compulsive.

    They do brew one some of the best mass-production beers in the country (Coopers), but if you're ever invited to a keg party in a small SA town, run like hell.

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    "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
  9. This is a GOOD thing by draxbear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a matter of perspective.

    The employer is doing themselves, but more importantly YOU a favor with this behaviour.

    Why? Well besides the nice paid two weeks off, you are now officially not responsible.

    If they didn't do this you are vulnerable to accusations at a later date if something goes wrong with a server that is traced to a point in time you were on your two weeks to bail.

    Yes it's possible you could have sabotaged something before giving notice, and tough luck if they catch you at it. However you can't be held responsible for anything from the point of resignation onwards if removed as he described.

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    --- I've completed diagnosis of your problem and can classify it as a YOYO...You're On Your Own
  10. Saved from a living hell! by OldCrasher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have seen those 2 weeks you longed for turn into a living hell. You are a lame duck in those 2 weeks. No wants to speak to you, except to talk about the weather, or how some dimwit in purchasing just ordered a ton of toilet paper. No one gives you any constructive work to do, just 'write down everything you know about anything this company does, and that you had a hand in programming, over say, the last 99 years...' You were saved from someones timetabled exit startegy that would have had you doing 35 debriefings, none of which would have been attended, and seven planning for the future meetings, none of which you could care a hoot about.

    That 2 week notice, and its subsequent conversion into personal TV time, saved you from a whole lot of really boring nothing. Now, go home, get in the car, switch off the GPS and head in which ever direction you see a hawk flying, and don't stop for anything other than gas for 500 miles.

    Live a little; the new job is just as likely to suck the life out of you as the old one did.

  11. I actually said that to my last employer. by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 5, Interesting


        I told them that I was walking off of the job, RIGHT NOW, and that was all there was to it.

        One of the bosses got upset with me and said that it was discourteous to do something like that. You should give two weeks notice that it would get back to you later and you might not be able to get a job for a stunt like that.

        I then told them that my employment was a contract where you paid me for services, and if you fired me, you would walk me out of the building immediately.

        "So, I'm firing you. You're all incompetent, and the system is failing due to that. Consider my vacant position as a sign of things to come."

        When I walked it stirred people. That next week they lost three. Two more quit the next week. I was an underground leader of the staff, and when I went, the whole place saw my lead and thought it wasn't worth it.

        All in all, it was the most worthy thing I've done in years.

  12. 2 good reasons for sending a leaver home on pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I sent a key member of staff home within an hour of his resignation. There were two reasons for this:

    1) Morale of other staff - There is nothing worse than hearing somebody tell you that grass is greener where they're going.
    2) I knew that if I sent him home and there was a good chance that I'd find out within a month whether he had some vital knowledge that we needed. This would not be have been noticed if he had worked his notice period. If he did have knowledge or skills that we needed, better to find out during his notice period at home. If we call him while he is still on the payroll, he has a duty to respond.

    "Corporate secrets" or "vandalism" were pretty low on my priority list to be honest. If this was going to happen, it had probably happened already.