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Stem Cells to Treat Brain Injury in Children

BigDukeSix writes "The first stem cell trial with widespread public health implications is set to begin in Houston. From the article: "Trauma is far and away the main cause of death and disability among children, and the main reason children die from trauma is brain injury...The clinical trial is the first to apply stem cells to treat traumatic brain injury. It does not involve embryonic stem cells.""

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  1. More Information: by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Informative


    Some more information on using stem cells from bone marrow to grow neurons can be found here.

    As you can see from the date of the above referenced article, the idea of using stem cells derived from bone marrow to treat brain injury has been around for a while, but now that we've finally progressed to human trials, this field is going to get very exciting very fast. This has the potential to completely rewrite the textbooks on brain & nerve trauma...it's a real pity that Christopher Reeve had to leave us before we made these advances.

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    1. Re:More Information: by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "...it's a real pity that Christopher Reeve [chrisreevehomepage.com] had to leave us before we made these advances."

      Why? What makes an actor who played a comic book hero worthy of mention (other than the fact that he championed the cause), instead of the thousands of children who were and are never able to realize their potential?

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    2. Re:More Information: by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      (other than the fact that he championed the cause)

      That is exactly the reason. Do you realize how much money would have poured in for this research if they could have made Superman walk again using stem cells? It's not about the person, it's about their publicity and their power to help the cause. Remember Ryan White? I went to school with the kid and, frankly, he was an ass. However, his celebrity status did more for AIDS research and education than the deaths of 50 unknown kids with AIDS.

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    3. Re:More Information: by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 2

      I'm not so sure. I still say he had a lot to offer with his celebrity. If his education and fund-raising efforts could someday result in the saving of 10,000 kids, wouldn't that make his life more important than the one random child?

      I realize we have gone off on an ethical tangent, but I fail to understand people who place the unequivocally place a higher value on the life of a child than the life of an adult. I know there are people who would fight harder to save the life of an inner city crack baby who has a 60% chance of spending most of their life in and out of prison than they would to save the life of a 50 year old doctor who retires to treat TB in sub-Sahara Africa. I just fail to understand the logic behind it.

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    4. Re:More Information: by pizzaman100 · · Score: 2, Informative

      In this case the embryonic controversy does not apply. According TFA, they are using stem cells derived from the patient's own bone marrow.

    5. Re:More Information: by PortHaven · · Score: 4, Informative

      PLEASE....educate yourself on this issue. You are extremely misinformed!

      Try reading the article for starters, here is a quote:

      The clinical trial is the first to apply stem cells to treat traumatic brain injury. It does not involve embryonic stem cells.

      A bit more about stem cell research:

      1. There is no ban on stem cell research. Merely, a provision stating that Federal funds will not be used for fetal stem cell research. (Privately funded research is still available.) Furthermore, the government allocated $500 million to stem cell research. Far from a ban to say the least.

      2. All successful or promising stem cell development has been achieved using adult & umbilical stem cells. In fact, many experts in the field believe that there is no need what-so-ever to use fetal stem cells. a) that all goals can be achieved from non-fetal stem cells given a bit more time and study b) said additional study will likely take less time than the study necessary to learn how to control and utilize fetal stem cells.

      3. Fetal stem cell research has to date had very little success. The most common end result is "tumors". The fetal stem cells are too reactive and uncontrolled. Of the few dozen articles on stem cell success I have read not a single one has been due to fetal stem cells.

      4. When people keep ignorantly making statements above they merely show themselves to be poorly misinformed at best and quite a bit more at worse.

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    6. Re:More Information: by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is no ban on embryonic stem cell research.

      There is a partial ban on using federal funds for embryonic stem cell research.

      I can't imagine how it can be controversial to say that we aren't going to confiscate money from people and spend it research that they believe to be immoral.

      -Peter

    7. Re:More Information: by operagost · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Then why is it that people will abort a baby-- who is ripe with potential-- in favor of an adult's convenience?

      (Yes, I have karma to burn)

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    8. Re:More Information: by bsmoor01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Genes.

      It seems to me that genes that place the young above the old (to at least some degree) would be selected by evolution. If we didn't have the trait to very strongly protect our children, then we wouldn't last very long as a species.

      Now, logically, saving an experenced doctor over a crack baby may be better for the human race. The doctor is a known quantity, and has a higher probability of contributing something to society. Overcoming animal instincts to make such cold, calculated decisions is difficult.

      Of course, all of this ignores 'morals', which are a whole other topic. Personally, I think the answer is simple: genes.

      -Seth

  2. Re:Don't play God! by xoip · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Man shouldn't have that power!
    So... should we Ban All Doctors?
    Bring it on and let Darwinism Rule.

  3. Re: Stem Cells to Treat Brain Injury in Children by sardiskan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well that wouldn't do any good because you are placing adult stem cell research and ID into the same group. Stem cell research does not hinge on Evolution or vise versa. Typically, ID'ers believe stem cell research is beneficial, ADULT stem cell research. And the evidence shows that adult stem cell research has produced fabulous results. It's the embryonic stem cell research that most ID'ers don't agree with because it destroys a human life. As a side note though, embryonic stem cell research has done nothing more than end human life. It hasn't really shown itself to be useful yet.

  4. Can someone implant some stem cells in the server? by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Then maybe we can grow a new web page and read the article.

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  5. Not embryionic? by geoffrobinson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, that's good news. No ethical dilemma.

    It would have been nice if the media stressed the promise of non-embrionic stem cells to the public more (there has been some stories), but it is nice to see it now.

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    1. Re:Not embryionic? by thatoneguy_jm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is exactly what we need, at this point - if it can be shown just how helpful stem stell research can be, then perhaps people will start to view it not as a thing to be feared, but a thing to be looked into and studied. And, as noted, by not using embryonic cells controversy is avoided. It's a win-win-win situation: the kids get treated, the research is given a better name, and the ultra-conservatives shouldn't be upset about it.

    2. Re:Not embryionic? by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 2, Funny

      What dilemma is that? If you were the parent of a child who could only be saved by the use of embryonic stem cells, I suspect your outlook might be quite a bit different.

    3. Re:Not embryionic? by Columcille · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually this is quite helpful, it shows all the good that can be done without the use of embryonic stem cells. Despite the whining from ESC researchers that only embryonic stem cells will do the magic, we've already heard several cases where non-embryonic stem cells have been used to work magic. Here we have another one. Why the continued push for ESC research? Here is a case where we don't have to destroy life in order to save life.

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    4. Re:Not embryionic? by dmatos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I won't be the first or the last to mention this, but embryonic stem cells do not come from aborted early pregnancies. They are instead harvested from the unused embryos from fertility treatments, which would be flushed down the drain anyway.

      Unless you are talking about the fact that we are ending a "life" (said sarcastically, I'm a proponent of abortions) to further medical goals, which is the first step in a slippery slope towards ending a "life" to make an (un)expectant mother's life more bearable. If that's the case, then why aren't you protesting the fertility treatments that flush dozens of viable embryos down the drain?

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    5. Re:Not embryionic? by Hillgiant · · Score: 2, Funny
      Curses! Foiled again!

      They have seen through our dasterdly plan to force people to have abortions. At least we are making progress on our War on Christmas (tm).

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  6. Blood-brain barrier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's only a Phase I trial. Phase I trials are very early trials predominantly concerned with establishing safe levels of the parameters. It won't show effectiveness.
    I find it a little curious to see that the bone marrow stem cells would be injected intravenously since the blood-brain barrier could limit the stem cells from reaching their destination. I presume that they figure that with trauma, blood would easily get to the damaged area. I think it is extremely hopeful to expect that enough stem cells would latch onto the damaged areas to make any difference. Also it is unclear if they are doing this for the acutely injured brain or for children who were damaged at some point in the past.
    If I was a betting man, I would not bet on the side of any positive result.

  7. As someone... by Veneratio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As someone who has seen a newborn die from braininjuries from up close(my little niece*), i salute the effort in this line of research. Since TFA mentions that this treatment does not use the embryotic (sp?) stemcells, i fail to see why this would become one of those ethical debates. Like with C. Reeves, i just wish they had developed this sooner :(


    * = a common spelling mistake

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  8. Texas children vs India poor by tomhath · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A couple of days ago people were freaking because experimental drugs were being used on India's poor. http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/1 9/1838223&tid=191&tid=219 So how come nobody's up in arms about this experimental procedure being used on children in Texas? Presumably the Indian subjects were in need of treatment too.

    1. Re:Texas children vs India poor by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 2

      There's lots of good answers that I'm sure people will provide, but I'd just like you to explain how this is at all similar.

    2. Re:Texas children vs India poor by phriedom · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "drug companies may not be sensitive to how poverty can undermine the spirit of informed consent. Individuals who participate in Indian clinical trials usually won't be educated. Offering $100 may be undue enticement; they may not even realize that they are being coerced...more and more drug companies are conducting clinical trials in developing countries where government oversight is more lax."

      If any of that applied to Texas we might be just as upset about it as we are about India. Clear enough?

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    3. Re:Texas children vs India poor by Sody · · Score: 2
      So how come nobody's up in arms about this experimental procedure being used on children in Texas? Presumably the Indian subjects were in need of treatment too.

      The difference lies in the fact that the primary purpose of the drug testing in India (and more often now on college students in the US) is that the drugs are not being given to treat any condition in the test subject, but to study the safety and metabolism of the drug itself. The trials involving the Texas children are an actual attempt to treat a condition they have, rather than giving an otherwise healthy person blood pressure medication, for example.

  9. Re:Don't play God! by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And who's decision should it be to decide what power man "should" or "should not" have? Please spare me the doctrine of the ignorant masses. I'd like to believe that if there is a God, he/she/it put that lump of grey matter between your ears so that you could use that power to help yourself and others. While that cause seems lost with you, I congratulate the doctors and scientists who are using science and medecine to help their fellow man.

  10. A man is standing at the back of a long line... by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

    at the pearly gates. St. Peter is at gates, interviewing each person as they get to the front of the queue. Suddenly, a man appears in surgical scrubs walks up to the front of the line, nods to St. Peter, and enters the kingdom of heaven. Outraged, the man at the back of the line chrages up to St. Peter and demands to know why the doctor does not have to stand in line with the rest of the people. St. Peter replies, "Oh, that was God...he just thinks he's a doctor."

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  11. Bill signed by the President by kjackson793 · · Score: 2, Funny

    From a press release from the Aplastic Anemia & MDS Foundation:

    "The President yesterday signed into law a bill to authorize $79 million to establish a new national registry of 150,000 umbilical cord blood units. The "Stem Cell Therapeutic and Research Act" was approved by the Senate on December 16 and had already passed the House of Representatives last May."

  12. One possible side effect... by mavi_yelken · · Score: 2, Interesting

    is cancerous growth of stem cells. Granted, these are not embryonic stem cells (ESCs) but this being the first human trial for somatic stem cells (SSCs) I hope nothing goes wrong. We really don't know every single signal pathway affecting stem cell differentiation, this kind of treatment is really simple, but blind. For example, what will the effect of all those extraction, culturing and IV injection procuders will be on the human SSCs? Some can argue that the current situation of stem cell field is premature for this kind of experiment.

  13. This study is bogus by LenE · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Stem cells might be a neat buzzword to get funding, but as a parent of a child with serious brain damage, I can tell you that this is more likely a politically motivated stunt to grease the slippery slope of stem cell research, than something that will generate measurable results. After all, nobody wants to hurt brain damaged children.

    The reason I'm so cynical is that babies are very resilient, and for the most part they are like stem cell factories on their own. As they grow, they produce new brain and nerve material, which adults cannot do. It is adult disease and injury (and greed) that fuels the stem cell craze, since our adult bodies cannot heal like young children can.

    My daughter had a stroke two months before she was born. This stroke wiped out 85% of the left hemisphere of her brain, replacing it with a fluid filled cyst. When she was three months old, she had an operation to add a drainage passage to this cyst, as it was filling with cerebral spinal fluid and had expanded to fill the entire left half of her cranium cavity. This operation cut through parts of her brain, leaving her completely blind.

    At nine months of age, the drainage passage had collapsed, and the cyst had enlarged to block all drainage of cerebral spinal fluid from her brain. Her head swelled with a condition know as hydrocephalus, and she almost died. That night, the CAT scans showed that 75% of the volume that should have been occupied by her brain was filled with fluid. She had an emergency operation to install an artificial drainage valve (a shunt). This event was catastrophic, and was like having her "reset" switch activated, she had to re-learn everything.

    Now, the good news. She is eighteen months old now, and has recovered remarkably. Her last CAT scan showed that the original cyst had been reduced to only 25% of the left half of her brain, and the right half is completely restored. The original passage that was cut, that caused her blindness, has healed shut. Her vision is steadily improving and she shows signs that she may be functional without the use of a cane someday. Sure, she's a little behind developmentally, but she is showing lots of promise. All of her healing was without the use of any stem cell treatment, because babies are stem cell factories. Her same injuries would have killed an adult, several times over.

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    1. Re:This study is bogus by foniksonik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How do you know that a stem cell therapy treatment wouldn't have improved your child's recovery process?

      The body isn't perfect.

      What if the therapy can give back to your child what has been lost?

      You have a very sad story but you shouldn't discount a potential good because it makes you hope again and leaves you vulnerable to serious disappointment if your child can not be helped by that good. Buck up buddy and thank whatever divinity you believe in that the rest of us haven't given up. 20 years ago the very procedures that allowed your child to live weren't available and still wouldn't be today if people didn't try new things. We learn from our failures as much as from our successes.

      Best regards to you and your family,

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  14. Re:Good Idea, why let ignorant fools run a country by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On behalf of the Slashdot anti-religion crowd, please stop turning every topic into an unprovoked attack on religion and Bush. It's making us look bad. Especially when the attack is as stupid as this.

  15. Successful Stem Cell Usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Almost every real advance that has been made using stem cells has been made with either adult stem cells or cord blood.

  16. Benefits of Embryonic Stem Cells by SeanDuggan · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I don't know this area particularly well, but I am sure that if the use of adult stem cells was in every way a replacement for the use of embryonic cells, then researchers would simply want to use those.

    But they do want access to embryonic stem cells, which suggests to me that embryonic stem cells have some useful property that adult stems cells don't.
    They have a higher potential benefit in that they may be more able to develop into a larger numbers of types of tissue. Basically, it was initially thought that stem cells from marrow could only be used to generate red blood cells whereas it seemed perfectly evident that infant stem cells could turn into all kinds of tissue given they're what the body starts from. Since then, we've found that adult stem cells can transform into a number of different kinds of tissues. *wry grin* Not that most of these experiments try to actually transdifferentiate the stem cells. If you read into the details of these experiments, most come down to "we inject a bunch of stem cells into part of the body and see if anything happens."

    Basically, the whole thing is over potential. The proponents of infant stem cells say that those stem cells may work better and the adult stem cell people are finding ways to use stem cell therapy without the requiring the sacrifice of another human life for a potential benefit.

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    1. Re:Benefits of Embryonic Stem Cells by IAmTheDave · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Basically, the whole thing is over potential. The proponents of infant stem cells say that those stem cells may work better and the adult stem cell people are finding ways to use stem cell therapy without the requiring the sacrifice of another human life for a potential benefit.

      Mod up my friend SeanDuggan. The ill-informed (*cough* Slashdot) crowd is very willing to always jump on the latest scientific bandwagon as long as it somehow conflicts with the views of anyone who dares say "life" in regards to abortion, stem cell research, etc.

      Fact is, there is a theory that MAYBE those stem cells are better, but in reality they're just proving to be easier to harvest right now. Extracting stem cells from embryos is something we can do, and extracting stem cells from adults is just something we're coming into being able to do. Do we know that embrionic stem cells will work better? No, it's a theory.

      I see nothing wrong with avoiding the controversy by better learning to harvest adult stem cells. Somewhere up the post chain here someone was modded funny for suggesting that this is a win-win, but it is, and what is wrong with that?

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  17. More Proof by dbucowboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just another batch of evidence to show the need to research non-embryonic stem cells... embryonic stem cells have yet to yeild anything extra-ordinary.

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  18. Re:okay then, come up with a better response by the+chao+goes+mu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hate to argue against Segan, but those "wasteful wars" are part of what got us to where we are today. Without the V2 would we have space exploration? Without the typhus and cholera of world war I would there have been as much pressure for antibiotics and insecticides? Without constant warfare would we have had any reason to move from copper to bronze to iron to steel? Without britain stripping her forests for the navy would she have needed to move to coal power? Ok, so wars destroy, and for that I condemn them, but you can't say "if we held hands and sang ku-bah-yah for 20 centuries we would have flying cars now". War is part of the history which brought us here, and part of what drove our progress.

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  19. My Embryo and etc by neuromancer2701 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well there are a couple of rabbit trails I could go down with this one.
    To my understanding, embryonic stems cells come from leftover fertilized eggs from invitro etc not from aborted pregnancies but it could include both, I am not sure. One of the future treatments, for curing nongenetic problems(ie spinal cord, organ damage) is to create and an embyro(then stem cells) with your own DNA(clone). I don't think that would work with probems such as alzheimer's unless the embyro's DNA is changed to remove that problem. I think that is going to be an even bigger argument than the current one, but is technically no different that the current one.

    To make a statement about the flushing of embryos down the drain. Most leftover embryos are kept in cryo for future pregnancies but I am not sure how long. My mom is the state director of an adoption agency(make of that what you want). She said that they have started to do embryo adoptions for couples who can't get pregnant because of fertility, not incubation problems. So know that some embryos are not getting flush down the drain and to ME that is a good thing.

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  20. Your moral compass is pointing the wrong way. by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, still, using embryonic cells is pretty sick, unethical

    I guess you're not an organ donor, either, huh? And, if you were dying of, say, liver cancer, you'd turn down a chance to live our your life with a donated organ? Why? Because it's "sick" to use something that's beyond the use of a dead body?

    We sure wouldn't want people living longer, healthier, more productive lives if it means burying someone with a pound less of their internal tissue, now would we?

    Now, normally I'd stop right there, presumingi that no one could be so obtuse as to not see how this is exactly the same situation as the stem cells from an about-to-be-discarded surplus IVF blastocyst, or the recovered cells from a failed fetus, or the recovered cells from a pregnancy that was aborted, and was going to be aborted anyway. People like you, that would rather use that tissue for fertalizer in a landfill than save some poor brain-injured kid's life are (well, to use your words) "sick" and "unethical" to a nauseating degree.

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  21. Re:Who are the fools? by cliffy2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > just so they can see Christopher Reeve ride a polo pony again.

    i sincerely hope that you realize the magnitude of a spinal cord injury. let's see how fun life is when you can't control your own bodily functions.

  22. Actually... by cr0sh · · Score: 2, Informative
    There is a partial ban on using federal funds for embryonic stem cell research.

    The truth is closer to:

    There is a ban on performing embryonic stem cell research (outside of the few established stem cell lines, most of which are contaminated or otherwise unviable) in a research facility which uses federal funds for any research.

    That is where the problem lies. There are plenty of research facilities in the United States, both public and private, willing to do embryonic stem cell research using non-public (ie, non-federal) funding, but because they already do research in other areas (not even related to stem cell research) using federal, public funds, they have been told that if they pursue embryonic stem cell research (outside of those established lines), even with private funding, that the federal funding to their other research projects would be in jeopardy and be cut off.

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  23. Re:Who are the fools? by sunwolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lemme tell ya, it'll take a lot more than stem cells to let Christopher Reeve ride a polo pony at this point.

    Though I imagine duct tape would do it.