KMail vs. Evolution vs. Thunderbird?
Deemo asks: "I use Mozilla Thunderbird on the Windows machine. Recently I installed kUbuntu, on a separate computer. Since I'm using KDE, the obvious choice is to use KMail as my default mail application. However, I tend to like Evolution's interface better, and I like Thunderbird in general from extensive use of the Windows version. I was wondering what the advantages/disadvantages are of each, and which one Slashdot users recommend for everyday use."
It doesn't matter, as long as you like it.
I'm a thunderbird user. Not because it's better or cooler, it's the one I'm used to using and I like it.
If you like Evolution, good for you. If you like Kmail, good for you. If you like Outlook, gasp, good for you!
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Thunderbird kept crashing on me and losing mail, I couldn't get evolution to work the way I want. KMail Just Works (most of the time).
I haven't found a perfect mua but KMail comes closer than most for my purposes.
I like the idea of thunderbird but I'll wait for it to be developed further, but if kmail continues advancing I may not bother again.
Why not try all three - set up two of them not to delete mail from the server (esp. if not running your own) and try them all until you decide which you like best. I also looked at sylpheed but it also lost out to kmail - for me.
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KMail requires that you install a mess of stuff for KDE.
Evolution requires that you install a mess of stuff for GNOME.
Thunderbird requires that you install libc, gtk, and X11. If you prefer a stripped-down desktop, KMail and Evolution are non-starters.
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I like Evolution, I really do. I miss the 'reply to list' option (even though forums are sadly taking the place of mailing lists and rendering this point mute). But I found that Evolution with built-in Spamassassin from FC4 just wasn't stopping either piece of spam I got each week and it was really starting to annoy me. So I tried out Thunderbird and I'm finding that it does what I need and it's stopping the spam.
YMMV of course.
I generally use Thunderbird, however I think any of them would work just as well as the next. All I use e-mail for is reading e-mail (and sometimes newsgroups) and I think any of them will do that pretty good. The only thing I would like to see is better integration with outlook. While this really shouldn't be needed there are unfortunately some people that expect you to use obscure outlook features such as calender checking. Maybe if something come out of the Mozilla Lightning project that will help.
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KMail is lean and clean, and it's integrated support for encryption is superior to the plugins and extensions for Thunderbird. I used and loved KMail, but I had to give it up because I use too many computers:
Thunderbird works essentially everywhere. You can share your mailbox over the LAN filesystem or globally via WebDAV, regardless of whether you are using Windows, OSX, Linux, Solaris, *BSD.
As far as I know Evolution is best for 1) People who need to interoperate with Exchange servers under Linux, 2) the mentally impaired, and 3) Gnome partisans.
But then, I never saw a good reason to try it.
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I use Thunderbird for one reason really, and that is that Outlook stopped supporting Hotmail. Yes I know, Hotmail is evil and all but I use it for my spam account and my messenger account. It is probably the easiest and best type of email account to do these things. Since Thunderbird does not natively allow access to Hotmail you need to get the extenstion that does it and I've found it works best with the version just before the newest.
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Each of these clients has good points, and bad points, it's really a matter of trying them each for a while and seeing what happens. Use IMAP and you can do just that, all at the same time if you want.
I personally, currently, use Evolution - I like it's vFolders, I have a vFolder set to show me all unread mail from the last 2 days, across all my IMAP and local email accounts, one for the last week's mail and one to show me all flagged email and emails related to them (my "to do" threads).
I have the last 2 days vFolder open most of the time, as email comes in I can quickly read it, if it's junk then delete it right there, if it needs some attention (work needs doing) I flag it so it goes into my to do list unless it's a reply to something that's already in there.
Then when I want to work on a job, I open the "To Do" vFolder, and I can see all the jobs I have on the go, including all emails related to them (unfortunatly I can't get it to include emails I've sent in reply in the threads..yet), I also use the flag to keep a record of how long I've spent on the job, and use the "Completed" switch in the flag to indicate when I'm done and it's ready to be billed out (when it's billed I clear the flag and the thread drops out of the "To Do" vFolder).
It makes it very easy to manage the large amounts of incoming mail I tend to get, provides a pretty good timesheet system (for me, when I'm working on a job, it's always related to an email, so that's the perfect place to record time spent) and saves me from being frustrated at an INBOX containing several thousand messages!
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I only use webmail because I can access all of my email from everywhere, and I never have to worry about duplicates updating many local clients, or which machine an email is on. But of course, now we have to argue over webmail clients. I use Horde IMP.
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I use Seamonkey (Mozilla) mail because I LIKE my mail client integrated with my browser, and I LIKE it staying resident in memory, checking my email every 10 minutes. Oh yeah, the name change was stupid. It's freaking Mozilla. Long live Seamonkey!
I used Tb for a long time, and I like it. But its IMAP support is not good at all. When I changed to another e-mail provider, still with IMAP, Tb would no longer download IMAP messages for offline use. I'd activate the function to download and sync e-mail folders, and it would always say that there were no new messages on the server, even though there were. When I went into offline mode, the messages weren't available. I tried making a new, clean profile, but it didn't fix it. (Tb 1.0.7/Debian, BTW.) It also would go into some sort of mode after leaving it running for a long time where trying to move or delete messages, or change folders, would do nothing. I'd have to restart Tb to fix it. Even when Tb was working properly, doing things like moving or deleting a message would block other mail operations until it sync'ed with the server.
Finally I had enough. I tried KMail. It has superb offline IMAP support: operations happen quickly and in the background, and are queued as well, letting me continue to do things while KMail syncs it. It has nice little features like automatically changing addresses from "someone at somewhere dot org" to "someone@somewhere.org". It also seems faster than Tb.
I still like Tb; it has a good interface, and is pleasant to use. I will try 1.5 when it comes out. But I am also disappointed in the Tb's team not fixing old, simple, outstanding bugs that have been in the bug db for years. There are some important ones that are breaking Tb for people, but they don't seem to care. Those people would be glad to help test and debug...but the Tb team has more important things on their list, it seems.
So, I highly recommend KMail.
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I'm in the "if you like it, use it" boat. An email client is just a means to an end, it's not a destination in and of itself.
Personally, I use and recommend "The Bat!" on my Windows boxes. I have what could be called "advanced" needs and this is one awesome program. It allows (automatically) different sigs per account, different sigs per folder, shared folders between multiple users on the same desktop, cookies, etc. It's not free but a short time using it hooked me. If you have some time and perceive some limitations in your existing client(s), give it a shot.
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That's the problem with using only webmail.
"Those who consume the bulk of goods are those who make them. We must never forget this secret of our prosperity."
You can choose where sent mail is stored in the identity's settings.
"Those who consume the bulk of goods are those who make them. We must never forget this secret of our prosperity."
If it's just personal mail, that's probably ok. But for a business, work can still go on even if the Internet connection is down. In such a case, lack of e-mail access could likely be killer.
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You people have no sense of humor. Shame on me for forgetting to put a smiley on it. :-))))
Ok, let me give you just one example. A friend of mine runs a mortgage business. I often help him with his computers, Internet service, etc. He receives lots of information via e-mail, including PDF documents, etc. He also spends a lot of time on the phone, and meets with people in person. He has software on his PCs that connects to a remote database, but also has local stores of the data. If his Internet connection went down for a day or two, he would likely still need access to his already-received e-mail so he could continue to do business. And, of course, he'd still need to be able to access his local database stores. If all his data was only stored on web servers, and only accessible by getting online, then a bad DSL/cable day would just about stop him from doing business.
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Come on, this is a no-brainer.
"Those who consume the bulk of goods are those who make them. We must never forget this secret of our prosperity."
It's almost 2006, where is Calendaring w/ Thunderbird? 90% of the world distributes scheduling updates via email (iCal). Outlook and Evolution support iCal, but the Mozilla team keeps leaving it out of Thunderbird. There is some sort of extension for Thunderbird, but I gave up waiting for it to catch up with the Tbird releases. There is some better calendaring app coming from Mozilla, sometime in the future, but I needed integrated calendaring last year, this year, and next year. To me, email and calendaring belong together.
I would love to have an email client that works like it does, which should be possible under Unix using something like Maildir and soft links.
Is anyone aware of such an effort?
I was (and still am to a lesser extent) a Thunderbird users, but with my new Kubuntu box I finally switched to a primarily KMAIL setup. The main reasons are the very nice integration with the KDE environment.
It is so nice to be able to easily drag and drop between konqueror for attachments (especially for my non-techy wife). The tight integration really is the main thing for me.
I am a bit tired of customizing things, I have been doing it for close to 10 years now with Linux, that I am at the stage where it is nice to just have things work without having to spend the time and effort to make them work.
Thunderbird is nice, and works fine, and I like the filtering and the plug-in support better but to get the same level of integration with KDE takes much more effort.
I have found that Thunderbird still seems more stable, KMAIL on KDE 3.5 still crashes once every couple of days on me and has some weird "lock-ups" when it has trouble with a network connection. (I have a flaky switch that itself needs to be reset every few days, and that seems to cause KMAIL grief).
I have not used Evolution since I gave up on gnome about 3 years ago.
It was probably the one thing I missed the most about gnome when I first switched to KDE. I know I could run it on KDE, but it always seemed to be a major pain after the early days of red carpet setup.
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Gmail is where it's at. Forget bothering to use it as a POP3 mailbox as well. Just keep your shit on the server and view it via a web browser. You won't run into those issues with the POP3 mail client having corrupted mailbox folders, hosing all the emails that you have. You also don't need to worry about configuring a POP3 mail client on each computer you wish to view your emails at.
So drop all 3 and go Gmail all the way!
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I've been using KMail for quite a while now. I don't clearly remember why I chose it above the alternatives. However, I believe it was a combination of the following things.
(1) KMail is mature. It can handle a variety of mail delivery systems properly. In particular, it handles my setup extremely well. (The others do equally well, however.)
(2) KMail integrates well into the KDE platform. If you're using KDE, you'll probably like KMail. If you're not, then it probably won't work for you.
(3) KMail seems to be snappier and less memory hungry than Evolution and Thunderbird. (I haven't used recent versions of Thunderbird, so this may not be true.)
(4) KMail handles HTML and Outlook mail reasonably well. It doesn't try to pressure me to use HTML format, but it does pretty well with it anyway.
(5) I tried for a while to use the command line MUAs. Mutt was my best fit, but it had weaknesses where KMail had strengths. I think KMail does a reasonable job of keeping the UNIX philosophy in that it doesn't try to do everything, just reading and delivering mail.
(6) KMail seems more intuitive. The keyboard settings seemed to fit my style, whereas the others don't quite match well.
(7) KMail has reasonable support for mailing lists. The others may have good support to, it's just that I haven't been able to get them to work together too well.
Ultimately, it comes down to choice. I don't expect many people to have similar experiences to mine.
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it would always say that there were no new messages on the server, even though there were.
I have this problem on *every* platform I use Thunderbird on: OS X, Linux, and Windows. I can't figure it out for the life of me. The only way to make it notice the messages is to restart it. It's most annoying when nothing tips you off that you might have messages and you just asusme you actually don't. I'm convinced all IMAP clients are horrible.
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I use IMAP for that functionality. HTTP is a second rate email access protocol. IMAP is better suited for it and the clients are better suited for reading and composing emails than web browsers are. A combination of the two is nice though. IMAP when you can, Webmail when you need to.
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I'm a day-to-day Evolution user. One of the things I like most is the speed with which it searches over very large folders. At one point or other, I moved my catchall address from my personal to a separate catchall.
I decided to try Thunderbird against this to see how it worked without jeopardizing my primary mail folders. It went badly. In a folder with about 70,000 mails in it, Thunderbird completely fried. Evolution would allow that and search it no problem. I don't generally have real folders with real mail in them that are that large, but it would have been nice to be able to search against it to see if there were any real messages in there too.
Oh yeah, and vFolders, game over, point, Evolution.
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Well, actually, as far as just notifying goes, Tb works fine. The IMAP idle command works fine with it; it always shows me when I have new messages in folders I have Tb set to check. But I just couldn't get offline caching to work anymore.
Maybe it's a problem with your IMAP server. Some IMAP servers don't support "idle" well.
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Once I was Pine user.
Then I was KMail user (rather old release... KDE 2.x times)
Then there was ThunderBird...
Now... One and only Evolution. Why?
Calendar, Address Book, sync with my cellphone, vFolders. I just wish that new-mail-notification was working in KDE. Appart from this it is a great software.
I love Kmail, but it has one showstopping bug that makes it unusable for me.
Email "disappears" from my inbox when using IMAP. If I delete an email, or move it to a different folder, about 50% of the time Kmail will appear to delete the email that immediately follows it. It also happens (about 25% of the time) if I simply select a message. If I quit Kmail and restart it, the "disappeared" email returns, but the fact that it happens at all is annoying as hell.
It's been like this since the days of KDE 3.0, and each time a new version of KDE comes out, I check to see if they've fixed it. As of the most recent version, no dice. I'm currently stuck with Thunderbird until they fix it.
neither of the three mail applications seems to be attractive enough for the users participating in the Linux Desktop Survey (http://www.osdl.org/dtl/DTL_Survey_Report_Nov2005 .pdf ). In the survey e-mail was rated the most important application while the top inhibitor for a Linux desktop adoption are the missing applications. Why aren't any of these mailers sufficient enough for the everyday use of ordinary users?
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Not everybody gets a Gmail account while POP3 is mostly included by the internet access providers. I estimate that more than 90% of all users still use a POP3 account.
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You can still use POP3 and leave your mail on the server. That's my colution for Gmail - though I a shameful Outlook user, so my opinion may not count. ;^)
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You can do that with Thunderbird as well, but it doesn't work with folders since a Move of a message is a Copy/Delete. Therefore moved messages get deleted even if you don't want it.
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Avoid Evolution at all costs. I don't think they bothered to test Evolution's sync functionality AT ALL in version 2.0. (Worked great in earlier versions, Evo 2.0 and above will make a dupe of every contact every time you sync.)
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Or more specifically, 90% of IMAP clients out there. They insist on storing crap locally, even though the whole point of IMAP is to leave everything on the server!
IMP, SquirrelMail, and Pine are about the only IMAP clients I've used that don't try to download your mail locally even when using IMAP. Everything else I've tried has been a POP client with IMAP support hacked in.
SquirrelMail chokes on large mailboxes, so I use IMP. It works great, and there is also a version of it designed for mobile devices (mIMP, available from CVS only at the moment.)
For those that need a local copy in a few places, see my above comment about crappy IMAP clients that insist on local storage.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
Funny, I use Thunderbird, Mail.app, and Horde as well, and I don't have that worry either. How? Simple, I just use IMAP. Now I can access my e-mail from anywhere, AND I get a nice interface for when I have one of my own computers around. Imagine that!
I love Kmail, but it has one showstopping bug that makes it unusable for me. Email "disappears" from my inbox when using IMAP.
I wonder what's different between your usage and mine, because I've never seen this problem. I mostly use the "disconnected IMAP" mode, but I occasionally use the regular IMAP mode as well. I don't see this problem with either.
I searched the KDE bug database and this looks like your bug, but the bug report says it was resolved in KMail 1.6, which is in KDE 3.2. If you still see the problem, have you submitted a bug report? The only other bug I can find that seems even remotely close to what you're seeing is this one, but it only applied to the case where the connection to the IMAP server got lost during the move, and it seems not to be reproduceable.
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You can tell Gmail to archive mail once it's DLed, so it never goes away. That's what I do.
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When you're offline you cannot send and receive, but you can compose or reply or forward mail that has already been received, "send" it, and it will be sent when the connection is resumed (assuming the client is configured to do it).
You cannot do that with webmail.
Personnaly I don't use a locally based client, even though I use only one PC almost exclusively. I use FastMail.FM's webmail client and I don't know a locally based client that can duplicate the functionality I use on that webmail client (but then, I haven't thoroughly checked). If email was a critical application for me I would certainly use an offline client. (Actually I do use a sort of client: I use FastCheck that is a very thin IMAP client that does only incoming email alerts for FastMail.FM accounts using IMAP IDLE extension. And I also have several email clients configured to access my account but I hardly ever use them, so they don't have local copies of recent files. Those clients are OE, ThunderBird, ImapSize and an expired trial of Mulberry that I'm too lazy to uninstall).
I used kmail as an imap mail client because it allows the use of an external editor to compose messages. After more than a decade of using emacs, I just cannot get used to the key bindings that builtin editors in gui mail clients use. The "emacs" like key bindings that some mailers offer just do not cut it. Kmail mostly worked for me. It was fast and efficient. However, it seemed to get horribly confused when I would wake my desktop up in the morning after suspending it the previous evening. About 3/4 of the time, I'd need to kill and restart kmail. Somehow, some obscure setting became corrupt, and the language it used for outgoing mail switched to some arabic font. My outgoing mail appeared blank to people using Outlook, and like gibberish to people using mail clients with the correct font installed.
I finally settled on thunderbird after a co-worker told me it has an extenstion which allows me to use emacs to edit my messages. It works reliably after resuming my desktop in the morning. Basically, it just works. The fonts/colors were ugly as hell out of the box and took a lot of work to make even barely tolerable. But for "just works", I can live with that.
It's been like this since the days of KDE 3.0, and each time a new version of KDE comes out, I check to see if they've fixed it. As of the most recent version, no dice. I'm currently stuck with Thunderbird until they fix it.
I've been using KDE since 3.0 and while I have had various problems over the years I've never run across this particular problem before. My IMAP server is Courier-IMAP... not sure if that makes any difference.
Also, have you posted a bug to bugs.kde.org about this? I imagine a bug like that would have been found and squashed very quickly.
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I searched the KDE bug database and this looks like your bug
Thanks for the links, but it's not the same problem. For me, the message gets moved, but the one immediately following disappears. Occasionally selecting a message will cause it to disappear. Restarting Kmail always brings them back. I don't see the same problem with Thunderbird.
The last time I tried it was with KDE 3.4.2 (the packages from Slackware 10.2), but it's been there since 3.1.4 (which is when I started using IMAP.) I haven't submitted a bug report, simply because I don't have time to compile my own version of KDE (the Slackware packages are usually a versions or two behind), and I can't reproduce it 100% (it happens about 50% of the time when deleting or moving messages and less often when just selecting one.)
I think the problem could be timing-related, as it happens much more frequently at work (100Mbs connection to the mail server, vs 500Kbps from home.)
But that still requires a local email client that you have to maintain on every machine you use. I use four machines with any regularity, and really don't want to manage updating the clients on each machine. On one of those machines, I'm not allowed to maintain anything.
Not to mention that the required ports on a foreign network may be filtered or blocked, whereas ports 80 and 443 are almost never blocked or filtered stringently enough to kill IMP.
Also not sure what functionality makes the local clients "better suited" than the web clients. Sure, IMP lacks some of the features of (bloated, IMHO) local clients, but it doesn't lack any feature that I actually use. It does 75%+ of what the local clients do, and that's about 110% of what I need.
I think the problem could be timing-related, as it happens much more frequently at work (100Mbs connection to the mail server, vs 500Kbps from home.)
Could be, but there must be another factor as well. I use mine via dialup, various network connections from hotels around the world (widely varying bandwidth, latency and reliability) and from my home office, where I have a Gig-E connection to the mail server.
Since there don't seem to be any bug reports about it, your problem must be fairly unique. I suppose someone will probably stumble on it eventually...
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When I started using Linux a few years ago, I used Evolution which I liked very much. Unfortunately at the time I did not find it easy to integrate it with Spamassasin so I move to KMail. I found KMail's interface not as polished as Evolution's but it did integrate pretty well with Spamassasin.
Then my ISPs started offering spam filtering service on its servers and I found that it was more effective than running Spamassasin locally (or training the email client locally to catch spam) and I switched email clients yet again... this time I decided I was going to use Thunderbird, the main reason being just like Firefox, it runs on both on Linux and Windows PCs. IMHO, UI wise, it is in between Evolution (better) and KMail (not bad).
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Just thought I'd point out that Seamonkey has been the code name of the integrated application suite since way before it was ever called "Mozilla Application Suite". Mozilla means a lot of other things anyway -- a project, a platform, a rendering engine, a foundation, a corporation, etc. Seamonkey is unique.
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
It works quite well, combined with a procmail filter to sort out my mail for me as it comes in. This has one major drawback: mutt cannot combine mail from different folders,
so I keep navigating back and forth between folders, especially when looking for messages that do not have a natural folder to be placed into, and this happens quite a lot. Something like virtual folders (which I've never seen in another client but apparently they exist in some) would be quite useful.
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There's no reason the answer can't be "all of the above". I semi-recently took the plunge and set up my own mailserver. I got IMAP, POP, and Webmail going on it, so I can access it via IMAP from a local client (most of my static computers such as at home and work), webmail (travelling/others' computers), and POP (crappy limited clients, a couple other users on the system). They're all looking at the same Maildir, so it's all my mail. The only issue I've run into is filtering; I really need to investigate procmail or something for server-side filtering into folders. Just haven't been arsed.
1. Thunderbird is the best in terms of stability. It's a little feature limited compared to Evolution and KMail.
2. Evolution has the best interface but it's not as stable as Thundernerd and still feature limited compared to KMail
3. Kmail has the best features, and as a subcomponent of Kontact you get a full features PIM like Evolution with far more integration into KDE + New Reader. Too bad about the ugly interface, and slight instability. (More stable than Evolution)
My biggest beef with KMail is mostly in the department of missing options and it's adherence to using the local Sent and Trash folders even if you're using IMAP. That's just fucking stupid. Mail should NEVER leave the mail server for ANY reason EVER.
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Evolution can't do user-defined headers. I hit this hard when trying to send something to the Debian bug database.
Evolution seems unable to produce a properly-formated email for the LSM robot.
Evolution fights my attempt to edit an email as plain text. I need to send patches in the body of my email. This is required to be a Linux kernel hacker. Evolution likes to word-wrap, MIME-encode, remove trailing spaces, change tabs to spaces, and do many other evil acts of mail mangling.
Evolution's email editor gets all cute about the email quoting characters. (I shall not reproduce them here, because Slashdot also likes to mangle stuff.) When I navigate over these TWO characters (the greater-than-sign and a space), evolution tries to pretend that there is only one character. Well, I may want to edit the quote characters.
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Last time I used KMail, I had to install and configure SpamAssasin myself. Thunderbird (and Mozilla mail) and Evolution did that "out-of-the-box". However, KMail is a good interface. Right now, my wife uses Thunderbird because it is simple and available on both our Linux and Windows boxen. I use Evolution because I need to access my exchange server at work, plus, I kinda like Evolution.
One thing I do miss with the current version is that the pre 2.0 version had a start page that could be configured to grab a bunch of rss feeds. It was like my morning paper - I kinda miss that.
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But it's mailing list managment stinks. It eats your own messages sent to a list which is, at best, annoying.
Other than that it's pretty good. I just prefer POP or IMAP. Plus I have my own domain as well.
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