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New Fatal1ty Gaming Mouse

steven williamson writes to tell us that Hexus has a quick look at Jonathan 'Fatal1ty' Wendel's approach to a new gaming mouse. At first glace it doesn't seem to have much to offer beyond your average optical mouse. A few of the features are a "four finger" setup with regards to mouse buttons, a mere 1600 DPI but that should be plenty for most, and an exchangeable weight to give it just the right heft.

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  1. I don't get it by AutopsyReport · · Score: 5, Informative
    At first glace it doesn't seem to have much to offer beyond your average optical mouse.

    So then why is this on the frontpage of Slashdot?

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    1. Re:I don't get it by pjt33 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Either
      • Because at second glance it's does.
      • Because Slashdot is "Time sink for nerds; things that kill a few minutes"
    2. Re:I don't get it by Andy+Gardner · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I don't get it

      ...You must be new here,

      Welcome to /vertisement...

    3. Re:I don't get it by Bogtha · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because Steven Williamson, who writes for Hexus, submitted the story to Slashdot with a link to the ad-laden Hexus website. And, if you scroll to the bottom of the Hexus page, you'll see Slashdot listed as "friends of Hexus". I'm sure they are, given that they send a lot of ad revenue their way.

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  2. Sigh... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Best joystick I ever had was an Amiga Power Stick (Atari variety) -- the ones they sold to finance the development of the chipset which eventually became the heart of the Commodore Amiga. They were the best.

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  3. Spell checker by BertieBaggio · · Score: 5, Funny

    "At first glance, the Fatal1ty gaming mouse doesn't look too different from any pther mouse..."

    Looks like the spell checker got pwned by fatal1ty too!

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  4. Slashvertisment by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Seriosly what's with all the advertisments posing as stories? The admins might as well put up pop-up ads instead of having them pose as stories.

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    1. Re:Slashvertisment by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, anything that's a product must be kept off slashdot. If anyone stands to make money from the added publicity, it's more important to thwart that than to point slashdotters to a new product that might interest them.

  5. Hold on... by Erik+Fish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article says that other mice have adjustable weights, however I was unaware of this. Can someone provide a list of mice with this feature?

    1. Re:Hold on... by tprox · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Logitech G5, for one, comes with a set of weights that you can add to your mouse to suit your needs.

    2. Re:Hold on... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      No, but I can tell you that Logitech just came out with an optical with switchable weights. Personally, I think this is stupid, since it's an ordinary logitech design. Their argument was that people had been opening mice and voiding their warranty. My counterargument is that base logitech optical mice are practically free. In fact, I just got one at the goodwill store, along with about 20 USGS topo maps of about 18" square, for $1. That's fifty cents for a mouse if you break it down fifty-fifty. Total damage: a slight scuff on the left side. It's even the black one.

      I have personally opened up a mouse like this and removed the weight, already. Mice don't need weight IMO. It's just more mass, meaning slower acceleration, meaning it slows you down, but the friction can do that and the friction's slowdown is controllable - if you press down harder, it's harder to move the mouse. So what's the weight supposed to buy me again?

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    3. Re:Hold on... by aafiske · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Logitech G5 Gaming Mouse has this feature. I have it, it's wonderful. Nice rubberized-grip, slippy bottom, comfortable feel.

    4. Re:Hold on... by Munchini · · Score: 2, Informative

      Logitech isn't the only mouse maker with adjustable weights. Razer, who makes the Copperhead mouse, also sells a kit to adjust the weight of the mouse - but its funny to see that it warns that using the kit, which is supplied by them, voids the warranty.

  6. Slashvertisement extreme by tacokill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, this is just pathetic. Not only is this "review" an advertisement -- it even fucking says it right under the headline!!!!!


    Right there in a graphic "Advertisement".

    News for nerds, my ass.

    1. Re:Slashvertisement extreme by darkmeridian · · Score: 2

      "from the product-mascot dept."

      Slashdot has jumped the shark.

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  7. Re:Four Fingers...?! by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
    They even upgraded the three-finger salute ("Zee bird, boss! Zee bird!"). Isn't anything sacred anymore?!

    Well... a few generations of procreation within your family tree may yield the ability to manipulate a 5 finger stick.

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  8. Who took these photos? A 6 year old? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Informative
    Could we GET any crappier photos of this thing? And that bigass 'Hexus.gaming' watermark doesn't help things.

    Oh, and please lose those mouseover keyword thingies. They come in at about a 9.5 on the Annoy-O-Meter scale

    1. Re:Who took these photos? A 6 year old? by gcantallopsr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Watermark? That's full color acid marking :-P

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    2. Re:Who took these photos? A 6 year old? by m0rm3gil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Particularly since the ad/article makes such a big deal about the button placement and then fails to supply a single photo that clearly depicts where the right side button is.

  9. Sucks to be left handed by Krach42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This mouse was clearly not designed to be used equally with both hands... if you're left handed, it's going to be a bitch to use. (Correction, if you use your mouse with your left hand, it's going to be a bitch to use.)

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  10. Re:Four Fingers...?! by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > > They even upgraded the three-finger salute ("Zee bird, boss! Zee bird!"). Isn't anything sacred anymore?!
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    > Well... a few generations of procreation within your family tree may yield the ability to manipulate a 5 finger stick.

    I knew a guy who could manipulate five joysticks at once.

    He was born with five cocks. Not only was he a great gamer, but as a fringe benefit, he said his pants always fit like a glove.

  11. I saw it at CES 2006 by SixDimensionalArray · · Score: 4, Interesting

    *sarcasm* Wow... a fancy mouse! *sarcasm*

    I saw and touched it at the Creative booth at CES 2006. IMHO, it's just another Fatal1ty gimmick, mostly useless bells and whistles. The one touch sensitivity feature was kind of interesting, but seeing as how I only ever adjust the sensitivity ONCE in most games and don't change it much, it is not that practical. The weights might be handy if multiple people game on the same PC, but when I played with it I didn't find a reason to change the weight in the middle of my Quake 4 gaming, for example. I didn't seem to notice the extra accuracy too much. I did feel that the mouse was a little bit small though, somehow didn't have a place to really rest the hand comfortably.

    A little off-topic, but the Creative X-Fi (http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?cate gory=1&subcategory=208&product=14000) sound system in the same booth was very powerful, and I could feel the chaingun rounds pummeling my chest!

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  12. Re:I think you all are missing the point... by grommit · · Score: 2, Informative

    The fatality line of motherboards from Abit comes to mind.

  13. Re:Looks Interesting by jacksonj04 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is probably /. suicide, but my IntelliMouse Optical does the job perfectly. Two side buttons, left and right click, and a clickable roller. It even works on sandwiches.

    If you find yourself needing a 6 buttoned, a 4-way roller equipped, tilt sensor loaded, dual laser surface scanning, custom weighted hand cooling mouse then you are taking it too seriously.

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  14. Fatal1ty Becam3 a Stat1stic by writermike · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While Fatal1ty is capitalizing on his new-found fame, it should be known that Fatal1ty recently lost his self-titled tournament at CES.

    Which begs the question: Do we really want to buy a mouse named after someone who loses games? I mean, if you really want to do that, then I will soon announce my WriterMike Mouse. From Zero-To-Throwing the Computer Out The Window in 7.5 seconds.

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    1. Re:Fatal1ty Becam3 a Stat1stic by blahplusplus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Which begs the question: Do we really want to buy a mouse named after someone who loses games? "

      Everyone loses games, especially in FPS games, no one wins consistently 100% of the time. When I used to play quake and other FPS games on the ladders you had to practice all the f'n time to keep up and people traded wins back and forth when you're very competitive you'll win and lose because the competition is so good.

  15. Re:Looks Interesting by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How would it help you switch weapons? What endless possiblities with the buttons? By the looks of it, or what I can gleam off the weak article, it has adjustable weight (how hard is it to control a mouse, really?), a fourth button somewhere (there's a little red thing on the left side, but the article describes a button high and to the right), and a scroll wheel.

    Other than the weight changing, which I doubt is worth the high price tag that this is likely to earn, this mouse has nothing special going for it. Take the 5+ year old Intellimouse Optical that I'm using, which was one of the first optical mice that didn't require a special mousepad. It has a clicking scroll wheel, and buttons on the left and right sides which are large and easy to press. That's five buttons and a scroll. The endless possilbities!

    Honestly, I don't have a clue about what the parent is on about, or the point of this article at all.

  16. My take on the G5 by GeekyMike · · Score: 2, Informative

    My wife bought me a Logitech G5 mouse for Christmas. It boasts 2000 DPI sensitivity and it can change sensitivity on the fly using 2 buttons below the wheel. you can even specify sensitivity using the included software to up to 5 settings (expanding on 400/800/2000 which works even before installing drivers/software) so everyone is happy. It also includes Teflon pads to reduce friction and a weight cartridge to further customize your controls. The only drawback I can find is the price, but a little shopping around can save a few bucks even after the shipping. No, I dont work for Logitech.

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  17. Re:Looks Interesting by Fei_Id · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Amen. I bought mine for like $15 new. I've never had issues with it; it feels great in my hand. And if you need a ton of buttons to click on the mouse; you need to start learning to use your LEFT hand :)

    Being ambidextrous is a big advantage in many things... though most "professional" gamers are pimply-faced 18 year old kids that weigh 120lbs with 9inch arms (though their right forearm is much larger than the left! I wonder why!??!?)

  18. Funny review by DJCater · · Score: 2, Informative
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  19. Dual optical sensors for axial rotation? by jlseagull · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've thought of hacking together a mouse that had dual optical sensors for axial rotation in addition to the standard translation of a single sensor mouse. User interfaces for 3D CAD programs would benefit - twist to rotate the object. Gaming would benefit - you could circle strafe with one hand by making the twist of the mouse accelerate the strafe. OS GUIs would benefit - click on an object then turn the mouse to activate an option on the context menu.

    Good idea, or invitation for wrist-strain lawsuits?

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    1. Re:Dual optical sensors for axial rotation? by mobby_6kl · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are at least two Logitech mice I'm aware of that use dual sensors: mouseman dual optical and a much newer V400 laptop laser mouse. I only had a regular mouseman optical, so I never researched what could be done with two sensors. There might be a simple software hack to do what you describe... or not, and you'd have to tear apart the poor animals to get two outputs.

  20. "As a gamer..." by js92647 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Time to burn some karma of my own...

    I see there are quite a few "as a gamer" and "as a hardcore gamer" and even a bit of "I play games and..."

    Here's my take on it:

    I don't see a purpose to this mouse. Honestly, you can fit as many buttons in certain places as you want to, but it won't change a goddamn thing. Take a look at your Numpad. Do you honestly use those numbers while playing the game to switch between weapons or select a choice of a menu? As far as I know a lot of gamers use the keyboard. The standard is a 2 button + 1 wheel mouse, and people don't complain.

    Then you have those keyboards that are specifically made for games, like WoW, Call of Duty 2, et cetera. Once again, it's pointless. A regular keyboard does the job as well as that one. You position a few buttons elsewhere to allow leverage, but it doesn't alter the skill of the person, it simply changes the positioning of their hands; their fingers move in an almost exact way as a regular keyboard (noting WASD config).

    I expect them to come out with something like: "You'll get better if you play with this mouse!" or some advertising crap like that. I guess the proper way to put it would be: Just because it suits one person, doesn't mean it suits the rest. I'll stick with my 2 button + 1 wheel optical mouse. It does the job.

    I think fatal1ty is going way over the top with this one. The t-shirts, the accessories, now the mouse? Come on. Ah well, every dog has his day.

    I'll am awaiting someone with a bit more leverage like John Carmack, Chris Taylor or even Bruce Shelly to complain about something regarding computers... THEN I'll be impressed.

  21. The .xls mouse. by youroldbuddy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Im still waiting for the in-developement Fatal1ty officemouse. They say it will improve chart generationtimes by up to 10%.

  22. Re:great googily moogily by snuf23 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well I think Gayest Faggot in the World is officially the gayest alias in the history of gaming, but Fatal1ty is a close second.

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  23. Mice DPI and speed on xorg by proxima · · Score: 3, Informative

    a mere 1600 DPI but that should be plenty for most

    I'd be wary of buying such a mouse for use on a Linux/BSD system. I realize, though, that most gamers use Windows. It would seem that under many circumstances, there is no way to set the speed of a mouse in xorg/xfree86. Sure, you can set the acceleration, but if you happen to have, say, a shiny new Logitech Cordless MouseMan Optical (800dpi), the thing is so fast that you have to set the acceleration to be

    Why is losing mouse acceleration a big deal? It means that you cannot move across the screen with a quick movement while maintaining the ability to make small movements easily. It turns out that in operating system like Mac OS X, they actually "decelerate" for very slow movements - it takes a greater distance to move one pixel. I had never noticed these things before.

    This issue is already on the TODO list and in their bugzilla system submitted by someone else. The goal is eventually to have a much smarter system for mouse speed and acceleration, to suit all tastes. I hope it gets some attention (perhaps as an add-on to the new X11R7), as right now I went back to an older mouse that works with acceleration (but isn't optical).

    My mouse is simply incredibly fast (and I can't imagine another reason than the doubled dpi from most mice) - plugging it into my Mac Mini showed it was much faster than a wired Logitech optical mouse, and the discrete settings Mac OS X offered for mouse speed proved either too slow or too fast. I think the bundled Logitech software allows for finer control of mouse movement, though.

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