Zoep Goes Open Source

An anonymous reader writes "Voipster has released their Zoep client-side VoIP engine as an open source project licensed under the GPL (now called OpenZoep) along with an OpenZoep Firefox extension. If you've been thinking about incorporating a VoIP soft phone client into your project, this article details the API and discusses how to work with the OpenZoep client."

Comments

Do they run out of names or what?

[Vo0k]

At first I looked at the topic and was sure it's a typo

Re:Do they run out of names or what?

[h_benderson]

> At first I looked at the topic and was sure it's a typo

Please, the correct spelling is typo3, not just typo.

Re:Do they run out of names or what?

[Anonymous Coward]

I thought it was a typo too. I kind of hope Zope sues them for trademark infringement to avoid this kind of confusion. But then, perhaps it will actually give them more business as people try to figure out the difference..?

Re:Do they run out of names or what?

[vboulytchev]

Uhm, its openzoep.org :) Spelling is correct

Gaim support for SIP as well

[morgan_greywolf]

Gaim 2.0 (currently in beta) actually has support for SIP/SIMPLE thanks to the Google Summer of Code.

So we've actually had VoIP capabilities in open source projects since last summer.

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[MrNaz]

Yes, but Gaim2 is utter tripe. It offers nothing over version 1.5 (except a veritable bucketload of new bugs), has a really ugly and non-intuitive interface and I have a pet hate in it's file browse dialog box.

There is no real good quality end to end VOIP solution in open source yet, which is surprising given that open source communities have done some really good work in audio and video compression (Vorbis, XviD) technologies as well as distributed networking (BitTorrent).

These technologies could be used, albeit with some adaptation, to form a completely open source VOIP/Video system that displaces traditional PSTN carriers as data networks become more and more robust and the SLAs on internet service providers approach those of PSTN operators.

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[Martindale]

(202) 456-1414 - I called it on VoIP.

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[Anonymous Coward]

We already have kphone (a QT-based phone, but no KDE integration, so no aRts), iaxcomm (IAX protocol only) and linphone (GTK).

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[cerebrum_interfectum]

Actually, the best of these apps all of you have mentioned is WengoPhone http://www.openwengo.com/ - qt interface, uses ALSA, have working Linux video capabilities, "and more..." Check it out, it's GPL and very good indeed.

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[lababidi]

For a good laugh call (202) 456-1414

I don't see where the humor lies when the White House answered the phone call.

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[TotoLeFoobar]

"We already have kphone (a QT-based phone, but no KDE integration, so no aRts), iaxcomm (IAX protocol only) and linphone (GTK)."

While they are good projects, and I hope that they continue their developments, they are not exactly mainstream:

- kphone/linphone: Setting up SIP accounts is hell for people not familiar with SIP (and behind firewalls/natted).

- iaxcomm: Wonderful, easy to use/setup even behind NAT, but you must first setup your own Asterisk server.

I've seen PR from companies such as Wengo, which offers a GPL QT-based client, but the GNU/Linux client is unstable and the project has poor documentation, too much PR on their website.. They also plan to offer a Firefox extention towards mid-February. Their service offers an easy to setup SIP-proxy (free) and POTS-proxy ($).

Anyway, I'm happy to see that OpenZoep is using XMPP and it looks like a very nice complementary alternative.

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't need an asterisk server to use iaxComm. Peer to peer works just fine. I _think_ I put instruction in the online help, but they're also on the web page, and in the QUICKSTART that comes with the source

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[Curtman]

I don't see where the humor lies when the White House answered the phone call.

Because the White House is a joke these days.

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[m_vand]

Reposted, since I accidentally posted as AC:

You don't need an asterisk server to use iaxComm. Peer to peer works just fine. I _think_ I put instruction in the online help, but they're also on the web page, and in the QUICKSTART that comes with the source

Re:Gaim support for SIP as well

[morgan_greywolf]

Because the White House is a joke these days.

Finally! Someone who actually gets my joke.

Took long enough.

Zoep, Zpoe, Zope, Poze?

[Speare]

Does OpenZoep run on Zope? Who comes up with these names? I swear, these names sound like they come from a Dr. Seuss book. "If you hope to wash soup off a rope, simply scrub it with SKROPE! Skrope is so strong that no rope is too long!"

Re:Zoep, Zpoe, Zope, Poze?

[jcnnghm]

In order to get a domain name of reasonable length and not violate any trademarks it is essentially necessary to make up a word. Dr. Seuss would make a fortune naming companies today.

Re:Zoep, Zpoe, Zope, Poze?

[shis-ka-bob]

But they are not the real Dr. Seuss, they are just a POZEr.

Re:Zoep, Zpoe, Zope, Poze?

[ardle]

I think Zoep is "Soup" in Nederlands? Doesn't really clear things up :-)

Zoep NOT Zope

[Ranger]

Not to be confused with the already opensource Zopeweb application server.

How do you mod something informative but off-topic?

Re:Zoep NOT Zope

[Walkiry]

>How do you mod something informative but off-topic?

Ideally, the first person mods it offtopic and the rest go for the "Underrated" tag.

This is much more amusing when a post is badly marked as a Troll. Seing (Score:5, Troll) is quite a sight.

Re:Zoep NOT Zope

[Ranger]

Ideally, the first person mods it offtopic and the rest go for the "Underrated" tag.

This is much more amusing when a post is badly marked as a Troll. Seing (Score:5, Troll) is quite a sight.

I think we should be able to create our own ratings and determine assign +1, 0, or -1 values to them. Or give dual or triple rating systems like the retarded TV rating system. (Score:3:Insightful;-1:Off-topic;0:Redundant)

Dirty talk!

[jpopper]

Wash your mouth out with Zoep!

The Killer App

[ObsessiveMathsFreak]

This is it. This is the big one.

An open source VOIP app that just plugs into your browser. Now, the only question is, does it support SMTP style aliases?

Re:The Killer App

[Anonymous Coward]

I can't tell if you were being funny or not.

I don't get why voip would need SMTP style aliases?

So... you want to be able to have a single number ring through to 10 alternate numbers at the same time? That makes no sense!

You want to store a list of numbers in a file that all get ringed when you dial a certain alias? This sounds like a telemarketers dream! And our nightmare.

Just say no to SMTP style aliases in VOIP!

Re:The Killer App

[FireFury03]

So... you want to be able to have a single number ring through to 10 alternate numbers at the same time? That makes no sense!

No, actually it makes perfect sense. This is implemented in all traditional PABXes - e.g. someone phones your business and it rings several phones. Whichever is picked up first gets the call. Or another popular implementation of the same idea is hunt groups - i.e. a call comes in and it rings for a short time on one phone, if it isn't answered it rings another phone instead.

Link to Firefox extension

[Pneuma ROCKS]

The Zoep Firefox extension can be downloaded from here: http://www.glaxstar.com/zoep/. I sometimes have connection problems, but in general it has worked quite well.

Not quite.

[Andy Dodd]

Even if GAIM has SIP/SIMPLE in the 2.0.0 beta releases, it's only for the text portions of SIP. (Yes, SIP supports text-based instant messaging. Shockingly, Microsoft Windows Messenger (not MSN Messenger) uses SIP as its default protocol.

GAIM does *NOT* have "vv" (voice and video) support in the current 2.0.0 beta release, and will not have it in 2.0.0 final. It was planned, but removed because it wasn't anywhere close to ready. RTFGN (Read The Fing GAIM News).

The tarball URL fails. Is there a good pointer?

[Anonymous Coward]

The tarball URL on their webpage comes back with an error (no such file). Anybody know where a valid tarball might be?

Announcing: Ploen

[jdfox]

Ploen is an out-of-the-box ready VoIP system that is built on the powerful and free Zoep client-side VoIP engine. It requires minimal effort to set up, is deeply flexible, and provides you with a system for managing VoIP that is ideal for project groups, communities and intranets.

And it goes 0 - 60 mph in 5 seconds, as you can see from the Ploen site.

Re:Announcing: Ploen

[Anonymous Coward]

Zope->Plone
vs
Zoep->Ploen

Gaaah

Re:Announcing: Ploen

[alech]

Score 4, Informative? WTH? Does any of you moderators actually click on the link? Or does nobody see the "funny" reference from zope and plone to zoep and ploen?

Re:The Killer App [does already exist]

[Anonymous Coward]

openwengo has a SIP/VoIP plugin for mozilla already available. openwengo is sponsored by wengo, itself a subsidary of neuf telecom a french telco.

competitive rates for VoIP to PSTN and you can get a POTS number for 7EUR/month.

Related Projects

[Silanus]

OpenWengo:
SIP compliant VoIP client (+ Video ?), Firefox extension, GPL: http://openwengo.com/

Ekiga:
VoIP and video conferencing application (H.323 and SIP) for GNOME, GPL: http://www.ekiga.org/

PhoneGaim:
VoIP system based on the Gaim instant messaging software and the SIP protocol, GPL: http://www.phonegaim.com/ (sponsored by Linspire: Some controversy exists over the perceived difficulty faced by non-Linspire users who wish to install PhoneGaim on their Linux system.)

sipX:
SIP based products (pbx, softphone, and supporting products), LGPL: http://www.sipfoundry.org/sipX/

Google's Libjingle:
Implementation of Jingle and Jingle-Audio (proposed extensions to XMPP), BSD License: https://sourceforge.net/projects/libjingle/

KPhone:
VoIP application for the KDE desktop environment, SIP, GPL: http://kphone.sourceforge.net/


Skype: http://www.skype.com/

Google Talk: http://www.google.com/talk/

Gizmo Project: http://gizmoproject.com/

Re:Related Projects

[khanyisa]

See my post here for builds of jingle-supporting versions of Jabber clients Psi and Kopete: http://www.translate.org.za/blogs/david/archives/2 006/01/27/T09_06_04/

No Linux version :-(

[Anonymous Coward]

In their infos, they say that their goal is to make Zoep work on as many platforms as possible, but as of today, the only platform where it runs is Windows. No MacOS and no Linux version. Zoep is supposed to be "ported" some day.

Standard for jabber + SIP

[johnjones]

I thought that Jingle was the way to go for Jabber with SIP support

these guys seem to be doing it differantly...

can someone please tell me otherwise ?
(and why)

regards

John Jones

Re:Yes, there is a Linux version :-)

[Rojar North]

There is a Linux version. Right on the front page, they offer versions for Windows and Linux. The Linux version has video too. They are still improving it but a working version is there to download - 3.5MB in size. Two other versions under development are mentioned but not available for download - Mac and Palm. May be you got confused by that?

Re:No there isn't one after all

[Rojar North]

Hm, I take that back. Looks like the linux version is unavailable and being ported - as you said. The site I was looking at, was actually openwengo, - much better than the zoep site. My bad.

Re:No there isn't one after all

[adrx]

Hm, I take that back. Looks like the linux version is unavailable and being ported - as you said. The site I was looking at, was actually openwengo, - much better than the zoep site. My bad.

The Wengo Firefox Extension has indeed already been released for Win32, and builds for both Mac OS X and GNU/Linux will be available shortly.

A recent .DEB package of the classic "desktop" WengoPhone and full source code is available from the recently redesigned OpenWengo developer website. The crew hangs out on freenode #openwengo - come and say hi ;)

Could I get a side order of encryption with that?

[Zanthrox]

Are there any actively maintained open source voip programs that support encrypted connections? I'm currently filling that need with speakfreely. It does the job well, but has it's shortcomings.

Skype is almost there, but I find it unsuitable for conversing with folks using dial-up connections, in addition to not being open source.

Hard Softphone

[Doc Ruby]

Will this engine run on any Linux phone, over EDGE or EVDO?