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Olympic Medalist was Spyware King

Remy writes "Seems that Australian gold medal mogulist Dale Begg-Smith is also a spyware entrepreneur. According to a report at Spam Kings, Begg-Smith has supported himself in style as president of a company responsible for generating 20,000,000 pop-ups per day, thanks to drive-by installs of spyware. I know the concept of Olympians being amateurs is outdated, but shouldn't they be barred from competition for this sort of thing?"

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  1. Well... by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...unless spam or spyware is illegal in Australia, or against terms set by the International Olympic Committee (which probably includes stipulations for non-voliation of the laws of competitors' native countries), then no, he shouldn't be barred from competition.

    Also, on the subject of "amateurs", you can't be a "professional" in the sport you're competing in. There's nothing to say that someone can't be rich, or be a "professional" in some other field. He shouldn't be barred for "richly supporting himself" either, until installing spyware becomes an Olympic sport.

    Hmm. Don't give them any ideas.

    1. Re:Well... by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Funny

      No! THis would be a great sport in a biathlon.

      Sport 1: Competitive spamming

      Sport 2: Shooting. But we give the recievers the guns

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    2. Re:Well... by WebHostingGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

      The amateur regulations were redefined because at that time the Soviet-bloc had paid "professionals" representing them at the Olympics. While they were not "professionals" in the Olympic definition (i.e., money for sport's performance) they were given token jobs in government or the military while for their day job they practiced their Olympic sport. You were talking about teams which had practiced together every day for eight years and whose only goal was to win gold at the Olympics. Contrast that against the majority of the other competitors at that time and you usually had a mismatch.

      I understand the reason for the change, but I think it did take something out. Take for example the 1980 US hockey win against the Soviets. Why is that so famous? Because a team of college kids beat the most "professional" hockey team at that time. It was a big win because amateurs beat the professionals. (Yes, I know Team USA practiced for over a year before the Olympics but that was nothing compared to the years of practice for the Soviets).

      Now, today in 2006, the US hockey team flew in the day before from all their NHL teams and then went on the ice the next day to play against Lativia. What is amazing in this 2006 game is that the "basically amateur" team from Lativia tied the NHL *super-stars*. Team Lativia went nuts after the game because they should have blown out. It made a big story because the professionals were almost beaten.

      For the NHL professionals (or any other professional competing) this is not something they are dying to win. A lot of the time they are more worried about their National endorsements (think basketball star controversy) and/or they are worried about not going all out because they might get hurt and injure themselves and hurt their professional career. (Yes, not all think like this, but enough do which takes away some of the spirit of the games.)

      Which would you rather see? A young amateur who goes all out and wins a gold after years of practice or a paid professional taking a week off from their competitive sport so they can try to pump up their professional career and get more shoe endorsements?

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    3. Re:Well... by eshefer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd be content to send the man to a quale hunting expedition with the US V.P.

    4. Re:Well... by Nephilium · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah... survival rate is too high for that... have Senator Kennedy give him a ride home from a party...

      Nephilium
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    5. Re:Well... by azuravian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How is the parent Flamebait, when the Grandparent is +3 Funny. Aren't these just the same joke (except the one making fun of democrats is Flamebait)?????

  2. Then again by Janitha · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only if they had Spamming as one of the events in the Olympics.

  3. In true Aussie style: by wiresquire · · Score: 4, Funny

    As an Australian, let me be the first to disown him.

    Fuck you canada! You can have him back - and take this trashy medal with you on your way out.

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    1. Re:In true Aussie style: by Zarquil · · Score: 4, Funny

      As a Canadian, let me the first to turn you down.

      Fuck you Aussies! You claimed him in the first place - you keep him! We're going to keep the steroid users from Jamaica.

        - Zarq.

  4. Yeah by zardo · · Score: 4, Funny

    They could throw it into it's own category, like doping. "He was disqualified for spamming".

    1. Re:Yeah by TekPolitik · · Score: 4, Funny
      They could throw it into it's own category, like doping. "He was disqualified for spamming".

      Or they could do an interesting drug test - "We heard you are a spammer and need to find out if you have been using drugs. Drop your pants and stand next to this ruler."

  5. They should've made him ski while his CPU... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    is stuck at 99% usage. Maybe he'll freeze mid-jump and crash like the rest of the poor bastards he's helped infect.

    1. Re:They should've made him ski while his CPU... by OmnipotentEntity · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah, he just skiied for 2000m and then got eaten by a yeti.

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  6. interesting by coaxeus · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article reports him the president of "AdsCPM Network." http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/the-ski-dream- funded-by-a-spam-fortune/2006/02/13/1139679533728. html Which is mysteriously under construction right now. Handy archive.org has a copy from last month: http://web.archive.org/web/20050125100919/http://a dscpm.com/

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  7. Huh? by bobscealy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The olympics are judging competitors on thier sporting abilities, not thier business ethics. If Dale has broken some law then fair enough, chase him down with lawyers. Disqualifying him from the olympics would be on par with banning anyone who fails a doping test from running thier own business - they are completely unrelated.

  8. Sad by DeadPrez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You don't even attempt to mask your jealousy. Nerd athletes are the Xmen of the future. Sorry, Napoleon Dynamites of the world.

    ps: this is only a joke if rated funny and a serious warning all should heed if rated anything else.

  9. Well... by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Jesse Owens was allowed to compete in the Berlin Olympics near the height of Nazi power, then I don't think any Olympic committee has authority to enforce a morality unrelated to sporting itself. An Olympic spammer in an online nation is no guiltier than a black Olympian in a racist nation.

    (Please don't misinterpret this as saying that Jesse Owens was somehow wrong.)

  10. 20,000,000? by AeroIllini · · Score: 4, Funny

    Twenty million popups a day?

    That's it?

    Pfft. That's like 100,000 infected machines, tops.

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  11. Please don't tell me by serginho · · Score: 5, Funny

    it showed up in his urine sample. Man, these guys are getting really insidious.

  12. Olympic committee morality by yorktown · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given that the International Olympic Committe has chosen to hold their games in places that grossly violate human rights like Nazi Germany (1936), the Soviet Union (1980), and mainland China (2008), I don't think they have much moral standing to ban someone for spyware.

  13. Foster's. Australian for beer. by TheOtherAgentM · · Score: 4, Funny

    Spyware...Australian for advertising.

  14. *WAS* is the important word right by StArSkY · · Score: 4, Funny

    .. he gave up his spyware business to focus on the olympics...

    Well at least the olympics are good for reducing spam right ?

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  15. his real sponsors.... by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 5, Funny
    check out his competition jacket...

    I bet it has 'sponsored by C1Alis! and Vi4gra! By online too satsfy you're lady"

  16. Modified medal by MrNougat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone should modify his Olympic medal so that it's got a flap on the front that "pops up" at random intervals and smacks him in the face, blocking his view.

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  17. Re:I wonder..... by iamlucky13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    At a slight disadvantage being the oldest biathalete on record, vice president Cheney nonetheless earned plenty of points for his target skills. "I tracked the target across my vision," he said. "When I pulled the trigger however, there was a spammer in my line of fire. I take full responsibility for what I did."

    The spammer was taken to a hospital with .22 wounds to the face and neck, where his condition was upgraded from "stable" to "beaten to death with computer mice."

  18. Imposter by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Funny

    A real Canadian would apologise.

  19. Take away his medal and... by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 5, Funny

    Take away his medal and give him an X-10 camera instead.

  20. Re:I wonder..... by Experiment+626 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...vice president Cheney nonetheless earned plenty of points for his target skills. "I tracked the target across my vision," he said. "When I pulled the trigger however, there was a spammer in my line of fire. I take full responsibility for what I did."

    He's already shot a lawyer, if he can bag a spammer and an RIAA executive, Cheney will be a shoo-in for the 2008 presidential election.

  21. Re:I hope you're joking by xtieburn · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well ignoring your utterly absurd mention of 'child porno' as a part of society, the second article clearly states a rule of the olympics.

    'The Olympic Code of Ethics says participants "must not act in a manner likely to bring the reputation of the Olympic Movement into disrepute."'

    Now given that spamming is illegal in many countries within the olympics, and because it is all over the internet it can gain vast public interest. Id say this breaks the code entirely and by allowing someone whod be considered a felon in many countries to compete, the Olympics are very much being brought in to disrepute.

    He has the freedom to spam. They have the freedom to kick him out of the Olympics. It's a little something called, freedom is a double edged sword. Welcome to society.

  22. Actually... by Gordo_1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although you've played to the conspiracy theorists who'd love to believe the myth that the high paid professional athletes really are a bunch of overpaid floaters who couldn't care less about the olympics, the truth is USA's tie with Latvia early on in olympic rounds was more or less predictable and quite common under such circumstances.

    The only two teams who are made up of 100% NHL players are Canada and Team USA. These two teams played for the gold 4 years ago in Nagano after handily beating all other strong hockey playing countries, which include Sweden, Finland, Russia and the Czech Republic. If you'll go back and look at the early rounds of each of the past several olympic games, the NHL-based clubs tend to do poorly early on and from time to time get beaten by teams made up of amateurs. Why is this?

    1. The players are often travelling to the other side of the world 24-48 hours before they are supposed to step on the ice and play. That's hardly enough time to compensate for jet lag. (Obviously, this was not an excuse at Salt Lake in '02...)

    2. NHL seasons are in full swing up to about 3 days before the first game at the olympics, meaning that the olympic teams made up of NHL players have little more than a single practice together in 4 months leading up to the games. That's not enough time to gel together as a cohesive team unit.

    3. Teams that win Stanley cups aren't made up solely of a group of all-star players. On championship teams, each player has spent a good deal of time learning to fill a particular role on the squad so that the team plays better as a whole than would be expected based on the individual talent of each player alone. These NHL "dream team" squads often lack an appropriate mix of key role players.

    4. Early games at the olympics are mostly meaningless. Given the circumstances (first competitive game together as a team) any professional coach will tell you it's more productive to spend time getting to understand each other's playing style rather than focusing on annihilating the competition as if it was the gold medal game.

    5. "...on any given Sunday". Hockey, basketball and baseball are sports in which a few random lucky bounces can dramatically change the outcome of a single game. It's quite common (maybe 15-20% of the time?) that a team is outplayed, yet wins a game because a ref call goes one way or the other, or the ball/puck takes a lucky bounce. To compensate for this randomness, MLB, NBA and the NHL have instituted best-of-5 and best-of-7 series to reduce (but never quite eliminate) the chances that the weaker team will advance. The Olympics is single-game elimination in the semi-final rounds and beyond, meaning even a significantly weaker team has a decent chance of advancing past a strong competitor.

    6. Hot goalies. More than any player on the ice, goalies have a huge impact on a team's overall results. A hot goalie can almost single-handedly win a game for a team that is otherwise badly outplayed. Witness the Czech Republic's beating of Canada at the 1998 Olympics for evidence of this. Stanley Cup champions almost without exception have very strong goaltending. It's not uncommon for a really hot goalie to turn aside 40-50 shots a game when his team fails him against a stronger opponent. These games can have surprisingly positive outcomes for otherwise badly outplayed teams if the goalie plays really well.

    With that said, go Canada!

    1. Re:Actually... by Politburo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nagano was 8 years ago, and the US team sucked and trashed some hotel rooms. 4 years ago the olympics were in Salt Lake City.