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Analyst Sees 12 Million 360s by Year End
Next Generation has a piece predicting the 360's performance for 2006. An analyst with Amtech Research expects 12 Million 360s sold worldwide by the end of the year. From the article: "He continued, saying that he is no longer concerned with any potential adverse effects that an Xbox 360 shortage would have on publishers' March-quarter results. Amtech and McNealy also conducted a survey involving 125 retailers last week. Twenty-six of them had Xbox 360 units in stock, although all but five of them only had the non-hard drive Core units. Stores that did have the $400 Premium Packs late last week sold out of units very quickly."
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When one analyst says something that is vastly different than what everybody else is saying, that is *not* a cue to publish sensationalst news stories, that is your clue to ignore the crackpot.
When many analysts agree, then they're probably on to something.
I know this is the exact oposite of how news sites operate now, but please, for the sake of flame wars everywhere, fix it!
Holy shit, that's like 4.3 billion of them!
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The key to remember is that fully half of those are going to have to be used to replace malfunctioning ones.
1. who paid the analyst or his firm?
2. why would anyone ditch their xBox for an xBox360 when it runs so many fewer games? why not just wait until the price drops?
3. this assumes people aren't waiting until the PS3 and NR come out - which they are. I have an xBox, and I'm not planning on buying an xBox360 and see no reason to change my decision, unless I compare all three consoles and decide the games I want are only on the 360. but that's not looking likely right now.
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The human eye can only see five objects at once. After that it's just "many". So he COULDN'T have seen twelve million. Once again, science disproves sensationalism.
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1) People who want a 360 want the full thing, not a half pint version.
2) The only way I think anyone will see 12million 360s is in a very big warehouse.
MS have slipped for now with this one, the world and their dog are either waiting for the ps3, or just think what they have now suffices and however ridiculously expensive a 360 is is just too much.
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considering Microsoft's wonderfully successful, indeed, almost Apple-esque, efforts to control supply, I want to know who can actually buy these things?
I certainly am not buying them....
So, is Microsoft is going to send the 11 million 360s from Japan that aren't selling to North America by year's end? I honestly don't understand how analysts could extrapolate for the end of the year; these numbers are just pulled out of their asses.
I think most people that really, really want the 360 by now have one and the rest of us that are curious and would buy one on impulse are SOL. Yes, if you're dilligent you can find one as most of my local big box stores seem to get about 25 a week, or you could buy one from the ass raping local video game store that have them marked up 25%.
I still think supply issues are hurting 360 sales and will continue to hurt them for a while to come. Mark my words, 360 sales will be no where near 12 million by year's end.
Halo 2 sold around 5-7 million copies, the PS3 is aparently not showing up this year, so considering Halo 3 is "maybe" coming this year and the hype is going to be huge for it, we can expect around 6-8 million world wide sales (12 is quite optimistic but not totally impossible) Next year, with the PS3 and the revolution in the scene, is not so safe to predict good numbers. Now 1 BILLION xbox live users this year (the estimated in E3) thats totally farfetched.
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Im actually a bit of a fan of the 360.
That said, where on Earth are they pulling these figures. The fact of the matter is that they didnt reach targets. It is not clear if that was just inventory or not. While its likely to be just something to do with shortages how can you jump from 'Oh it was just shortages' to 'The're going to do really well.'
The only piece of evidence they seem to have is that the 360 is going to reach 4.5 to 5 million units by June according to... Microsoft. Not exactly an unbiassed source.
Oh yes and they did a study of units currently in, despite the fact its a known fact that 360's are in short supply and the survey proves absolutely nothing about sales. Genius.
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...in a landfill somewhere in New Mexico.
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Who are these guys dropping $400 on what is essentially a single purpose computer? Might as well get a high performace CPU and VGA, and some USB controllers and play on a PC. And I am saying this as someone who doesn't often play games on PC. Are these guys people with full time jobs, and few bills to pay or what? I sure could use some of that money they have to spare.
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How many PS2s shipped day 1? is it just me or is this only a mediocre entry into the console market?
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Amtech is supposed to have a performance chart page where they show their past ratings and the matching stock prices. But a sizable fraction of the companies on the list, like Ask Jeeves and AT&T Wireless Services, are no longer separate companies. Generally not for good reasons.
Peter Lynch, of Fidelity Magellan fame, used to have a framed letter on his office wall from a similar firm. It read "We are withdrawing our 'buy' rating because of the bankruptcy."
They'll all be buried in a desert landfill somewhere in New Mexico.
It's because of people like this , who go into the local Target or Walmart and buy every system that comes in, just to try to make a little money on Ebay.
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It's definitely time for me to start up that business as an analyst. Who's with me?
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I was an xBox Live beta tester, and I loved the console. Last week, I let my xBox Live account lapse for good. I only use my xBox as an MCE extender now (a role in which it excels, by the way). Why turn my back on the xBox? Quite frankly, having bought in excess of 20 games for it, and played it since release (inlcuding online). In the end, I don't feel I got my money's worth from it. The good games were few and far between. Improvements to the console and the online service, equally few and far between. And then I spent the last year hearing about the 360 and being underwhelmed, except for the obivous: more expensive, with more expensive games (the second round of 1st generation games, no less!), to play on a more expensive, more heavily advertising-laden service that could NOT possibly be more responsive than the original...given all the basic junk they were loading onto it. Their constant hype of "micro-payments" and "micro marketplaces" only fueled my "micro interest." So now what? I don't know, maybe I will wait for the Nintendo...more than likely, I will reconsider my previously ridicule-fueled opinion of PC gaming. So, the good news? There's one less non-offensive/non-obsenity suggesting/non-hatemongering gamertag on xBox Live.
Analyst Sees 12 Million 360s by Year End
That's nothing. I once knew a kid who saw dead people.
Oblivion is being released at the end of March. I realize that this game will be available both for the 360 and the PC... but for those that are interested in a gaming console, this may be the 'must have' game of the year.
With the release of games like this, many will retire thier old consoles, and get a 360. Not everyone is a PC gamer, and console gamers are more likely to buy a console to play one or two 'great' games.
The delay of the PS3 gives the 360 an opportunity for a few top notch games to come out (we can only hope) before there is any competition for the market. This could cement the 360 into a solid lead by the end of this year... or the lack of good games could give the PS3 the fuel it needs to make its launch.
They way I hear it, the 360 actually didn't do very well because...it didn't do very well. The ONLY actual shortages were in big cities. My hometown always had plenty of units in stock, and MS sold 800,000 of a possible 4 million units thus far. If you've been keeping up, a lot of a companies, including EA and Activision, have recently had large layoffs. MS wants to tell you it's because of a slow gaming season, but if you check things out more closely, you'll noticed that the divisions were next-gen divisions...in particular, 360 development. The companies realized the 360 wasn't doing so hot, so they pulled funding and placed the money in more reliable venues.
mmmmh, the lovely smell of failure is in the air...