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Trekkie Dating, is it Good for the Gene Pool?

Eloketh writes "It seems that Tucker Carlson of MSNBC thinks that Internet Dating services are a somewhat disturbing trend. Specifically, when talking about Trekkies, he says 'Is this good for the gene pool?' He also goes on to question whether allowing Trekkies to meet and mate is 'in the national interest.'"

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  1. Fortunately... by RoffleTheWaffle · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... pairs of males can't procreate. No, the Star Trek universe does not afford a real work-around for this problem, and procreation and replication via androids just isn't feasible.

    1. Re:Fortunately... by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

      Indeed. I have a Star Trek mystery dinner party game. Requires 4 men and 4 women. Where are you going to get 4 female trekkies? Are there 4 female trekkies?

    2. Re:Fortunately... by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Informative
      Where are you going to get 4 female trekkies? Are there 4 female trekkies?

      You're kidding, right? Trek fandom has always been notable for attracting a significant number of women (especially compared to SF fandom in general or other realms of geekdom). Historically, women have been drawn to Trek by romantically appealing captains, by the ideals of gender equality the shows represented (Uhura may not have done much, but she was a bridge officer), and the community opportunities of fandom itself. The whole genre of "slash" fanfic was invented by female trekkies fantasizing about a Kirk/Spock relationship. Fanfic is also rife with uber-competent "Lt. Mary Sue" characters who win the heart of Kirk or Spock or another character, also obviously written by women. In the TNG era, the DSPSGs (drooling, slobbering, Patrick Stewart groupies) were rampant on CompuServe (and mostly female). To cite a mass-media example, there's the woman who made the news for wearing her Starfleet uniform for jury duty. Whoopi Goldberg finagled herself a part on TNG because she was a fan. I haven't been involved in Trek fandom for a while, so maybe the women have been abandoning it for other more interesting subjects (leaving only the men who refuse to ask for directions), but the notion that female trekkies are some kind of mythical creature is simply incorrect.

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  2. requires IE6 for the 'free' video? by daemious · · Score: 3, Funny

    I really wanted to see Tucker Carlson making an ass out of himself too.

    1. Re:requires IE6 for the 'free' video? by magicchex · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then turn on Fox anytime he happens to be on.

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  3. people actually listen to tucker carlson? by the+unbeliever · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I figured that after Jon Stewart emasculated him on Crossfire people would have written the bow tie wearing blowhard off for what he is -- a moron.

    1. Re:people actually listen to tucker carlson? by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't understand why he isn't in favor of geeks getting together. More couples and new familes means more taxpayers to try to prop up broken Social Security systems and more young'ns to send into meaningless wars.

      But then maybe he doesn't want them for the intelligence reasons. It's far easier to control a populace made up of idiots.

    2. Re:people actually listen to tucker carlson? by the+unbeliever · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think he realizes that once we establish our political dominance (by actually, y'know, voting...) that the outdated and broken social security systems (and many other social programs...) are going to get a major reform, along with stamping out what I like to call "legislated morality".

      The major problem I see facing that is that a) many geeks I know don't vote, for reasons I can't explain, and b) many of those same geeks are (like myself) decidedly childfree.

  4. In other news... by bmo · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Editors Zonk and Scuttle Monkey: Are they good for Slashdot or are they better in a white wine sauce?"

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  5. How else is a trekkie... by clickety6 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... supposed to go where no man has gone before?

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  6. Finally we get a website by juventasone · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unfortunately this site came a little late into my life, for myself, and some of my friends, we had to resort to finding our mates the hard way.. on IRC.

  7. The ratio's a bit out of whack there by greg1104 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I haven't seen that many men all trying to bang the same woman since the last time I watched...wait, I wasn't supposed to admit to owning that movie. Nevermind.

  8. Not sure I understand... by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

    What does online dating have to do with "trekkies"? :-/

    At least in the country I live in, online dating services have people from 18 to ~60 with interests ranging from gardening to space science to hair styling...

    Online dating is very accepted and mainstream here. It's just one form of dating along with visiting clubs. Heck, it may even be seen as more hip than that nowadays, because it's more new and "in".

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  9. Bah! by SeaFox · · Score: 5, Funny

    He also goes on to question whether allowing Trekkies to meet and mate is 'in the national interest.

    Wow, what a coincidence! Here I was just wondering if allowing Tucker Carlson to mate was in the national interest.

    1. Re:Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe a good sized portion of the nation have already told him to go mate with himself.

  10. Re:Is this supposed to be funny? by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this supposed to be funny?

    Yes.

    I exaggerated the male to female ratio of Trekkies for comic effect. The idea was that people would see the absurdity of there being fewer than 4 female Star Trek fans in the entire world, causing laughter.

    Hope that helps explain the concept, Commander Data.

  11. War on Trekism by my+$anity++0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Trekkies are a national security risk. Trekkies are everywhere. I might even be a Trekkie. See, Trekkies tend to believe that people must be tolerant, and progress in science, in order for any aliens to pay serious attention to them. You can see why this isn't in the national interest. The effects were minimized before they started breeding. Luckily, many Trekkies are male, leading to certain problems in mating, and a Trekkie and a `Normal' have a good chance of having a normal child. However, the number of female Trekkies is not decreasing. We must stop this infection of our society.

  12. Re:Is this supposed to be funny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If there are less than 4 female trekkies world-wide, then I'm married to one of them. I'm so lucky. :)

    She also loves Stargate, Battlestar and Farscape, has a healthy interest in IT, and is the mother of all goddesses; a Librarian.

  13. I married a Trekkie -- and lived by Roblimo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My wife is a low-level Trekkie; a fan of the series, especially the original, but not one who goes to conventions or wears Trek-based costumes.

    We met before the Internet was open to the public -- the old-fashioned way, in a coffee shop where we were sitting near each other.

    I wasn't aware of her Trekkie tendencies for several months. Finding out about them changed nothing. We (obviously) ended up married anyway.

  14. Is anyone else scared? by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'Is this good for the gene pool?'

    I don't know about other people but statement like that really scare me. We as humans should really stop trying to control our evolution and let nature take its course.

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  15. It's only somewhat dangerous by SEWilco · · Score: 5, Funny

    Trekkie dating is OK, although somewhat dangerous. Particularly if bystanders don't move quickly when the Klingon gets excited.

  16. Thing is... selection is becoming much easier. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And it's not necessarily good for the human race as a whole.

    Take okcupid for example. Answer 500 muliple choice questions and the statistical grouping algorithm it uses matches you up with well lots of people who answered in a similar manner. You end up talking to people who think in a very similar way, often with similar interests. In fact it can be damned near telepathy at times. OK, that's great and getting on with someone is very easy but... As well as the influence of the nurture stuff there are underlying genetic mechanisms to the way people think and act but guess what, we're sorting these similar "good" and "bad" genes to be close to one another.

    The result is potentially increased incidence of genetic diseases. Ultimately I think things like this will weed out the bad genes naturally as they express themselves in children but there's the suffering and potentally increased healthcare costs.

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  17. People listen to and read trolls, sad to say by ianscot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Tucker Carlson and the entire breed of televised "pundits" are little more than trolls. Think John Dvorak. People read them for the same reason this story caught our eye; because their job is to provoke reactions and get "eyeballs" on their show, or reading their column... And here we are, reacting.

    The most interesting aspect of this species of critter is their seemingly complete lack of self-reflection. They've got images -- the bow tie -- but they're entirely externally facing, and seem not to be subject to introspection. It's like the trade requires a sort of obtuseness in that area, to the point where stuff like Jon Stewart reaming him probably got filed away as "People who didn't follow the script" by Carlson.

    Small example of this lack of reflection: Carlson himself has an extremely high "nerd radar" presence for me. He doesn't seem that far from Trekkie country himself. Does he?

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  18. Eugenics Wars by pete-classic · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, when it comes to Eugenics Wars it's better late than never.

    KHAAAAAAAAAN!

    -Peter

  19. There are other things that shouldn't procreate... by scolby · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...like men who wear bow ties.

  20. As opposed to letting Tucker Carlson reproduce? by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Funny
    And is the fact that HE'S going to have children supposed to make me feel GOOD??

    -Eric

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  21. Why not? by reachums · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why wouldn't you want to marry a Trekkie? I'm a Trekkie, my friends are Trekkeis, my husband's a Trekkie, my Father is a Trekkie. all of us managed to find love, some have even reproduced. I've yet to have someone come to my home while I had Star Trek on (NG or DS9) and said anything negative about it. infact, normaly it's something to the effect of "Oh, I remember this episode!!"

    Trekkies just aren't really all that rare anymore.

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  22. Of course it isn't by danpsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just think if the US populace had more intelligent/nerdy people get together and procreate, why, there might be more intelligent people out there. And then who would be left to watch Tucker Carlson?

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  23. Online Dating by danpsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As people tend nowadays to leave their house less and less thanks to the news media and their condemned perspective on the world in general. And since there are now less social venues as parks and drive-ins turn into parking lots and shopping malls, online dating has exploded. Now people like Tucker Carlson are going to say that's bad too? What is a person who doesn't want to pick up a mate at a bar supposed to do if they aren't in a friend circle with a bunch of single females? You know, real life isn't like Friends or Seinfeld for everyone. Sometimes people have to venture outside of their social group for a mate. Everyday the choices of activities outside the house get slimmer, and the social ones even more so. It's getting to the point where everyone is a potential online dating candidate because nobody is meeting anyone new anymore.

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  24. Obligatory Futurama Quote by Braxton_the_Covenant · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Takei: ....You see, the show was banned after the Star Trek wars.

    Zapp: You mean after the vast migration of Star Wars fans?

    Nichols: No, that was the Star Wars trek. [Some mechanical hands come out of her jar, pick up a video tape and put it in the VCR.] By the 23rd century, Star Trek fandom had evolved from a loose association of nerds with skin problems into a full-blown religion.

    [On the screen, a service is held at the Church of Trek.]

    Priest: [on TV] And Scotty beamed them to the Klingon ship where they would be no Tribble at all.

    Congregation: [chanting; on TV] All power to the engines.

    Nichols: As country after country fell under its influence, world leaders became threatened by the movements power. [In Berlin a sign is unveiled saying "Welcome To Nazi Planet Episode Land. Formerly Germany".] And so the Trekkies were executed in the manner most befitting virgins.

    [On the rim of a volcano two men throw Trekkies into the flames.]

    Man: [on TV] He's dead, Jim! [They throw another in.] He's dead, Jim! [Another.] He's dead, Jim!

    Nichols: Finally, the sacred texts were banned.

    [The episodes are put inside a torpedo casing.]

    Takei: The last copies of the 79 episodes and six movies were dumped on the forbidden world, Omega 3, along with that blooper reel where the door doesn't close all the way.

    [As he speaks, a ship that looks like an Eagle from Space: 1999 fires the torpedo. It hits the planet like Spock's coffin in Star Trek: The Wrath Of Khan. The video ends.]

    Nimoy: Thus, Star Trek was forever scoured from human memory.

    Bender: Another classic science-fiction show cancelled before its time.