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Google Enters Web-Office Market

jaiva writes "Google's official blog tells us that Google has acquired Writely, a collaborative word processor." From the article: "To be clear, Writely is still in beta, and it's far from perfect. Upholding our great user experience means everything to us, so we're not accepting new registrations until we've moved Writely to Google's software architecture. If you're interested in giving us a try, we hope you'll get on the waitlist so we can let you know when you'll be able to try out Writely."

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  1. It's in beta? Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, Google releases a new slogan:

    "What starts in beta, stays in beta"

  2. Login Info by ZiakII · · Score: 3, Informative

    Typical slashdoter... not checking www.bugmenot.com .... Try this

    Login: boston@dodgeit.com
    Password: Boston

    Enjoy! (Yes I tested it unless some troll changed the password. )

    1. Re:Login Info by ZiakII · · Score: 3, Informative

      whoops password is boston

    2. Re:Login Info by Sima · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope, don't work, I got this:

      Sign In to Writely
      The e-mail address and password you
      entered do not match any users we know of.

  3. This is obvious... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be clear, Writely is still in beta, and it's far from perfect.

    A perfect into the Google product line.

    1. Re:This is obvious... by LeonGeeste · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, I was kinda surprised by that, releasing a product in beta is an unusual move for Google.

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    2. Re:This is obvious... by bloggins02 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I see that your post is still in beta as well.

      (sorry)

    3. Re:This is obvious... by Oxen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      To be clear, Writely is still in beta, and it's far from perfect.

      From the online tour, "Let me tell you, Writley is AMAZING. It's easy to use, efficient (it auto-saves once in awhile, but you can't tell it's so smooth), and perfect.

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  4. wiki killer? by keilinw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd really be interested in something along these lines... but with wiki integration! How cool would that be? WYSIWIG wiki, end user focused, and with security features.... so that even dumb people could use it... err.. I think thats what this is huh?

    --Matt Wong
    http://www.themindofmatthew.com

    1. Re:wiki killer? by Mean+Variance · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or they'll just buy Jotspot.

  5. I can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful


    till i can upload my company files to an American advertising based company so they can rifle through our documents looking for whatever them or their goverment takes their fancy

    yeah i can predict this will be a great success

    1. Re:I can't wait by quanticle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I understand the point you're trying to make, but I really wouldn't mind having something like this. As a college student, I often have multiple unsynchronized copies of term papers in different places. A service like Writely helps keep everything up-to-date, and in one place.

      As for privacy, if you want to search through my History of Science term paper, be my guest.

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    2. Re:I can't wait by Haertchen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, I rather think that if you want to keep something absolutely private, don't use the service.

      As others have pointed out before, the same applies to email, or just about any other activity online. And I think that that was the real jist of the grandparent post. Only put things on that the whole world could read; there are plenty of those and the service is useful.

    3. Re:I can't wait by cmacb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "What kind of moron would use this service on company files, or on documents with information you need kept secure? "

      Believe me, the typical user of Microsoft Office is even DUMBER! They carry around important documents on floppy disks and laptops, frequently misplacing both and sometime losing them. They e-mail their freaking Word and Excel files to each other anyway, up to the point where the files are so big they bounce. Finally they are often at the mercy of network administrators who don't give a rat's ass about their company secrets.

      Much better in fact to do business with an online company that promises to keep your documents safe and secure. If Google, or anyone else provides such a service, and takes it beyond a beta for personal use I'm quite sure there will be grounds to sue said company if their products fail.

      Last time I checked nobody had successfully sued Microsoft for putting out crap. But while they say "no one ever gets fired for using Microsoft" such people DO get fired, they just put other reasons on the form.

    4. Re:I can't wait by missing_boy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You sound like my mom. She says that "Why should I be afraid of , as long as I'm not doing anything wrong...?" in reply to my concerns about our decaying civil liberties. You cannot accept the possibility of your private affairs being surveilled, read or gathered by anybody, unless you're perfectly happy with living in what can very easily turn into a dictatorial police state.

  6. Writely rites good! by LiftOp · · Score: 5, Funny
    Spelchecker needs werk.

    Love, Gogle Developmint Teem

  7. pieces of a puzzle... by pvt_medic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While there is great debate about googles master plan or if it has one. The whole concept that they make things and then try to make them profitable. The more i see their actions the more a threat to almost every element of the PC industry they present.
    1-Online Storage
    2-Office Suite Program
    3-Data Search
    4-E-Mail, Chat
    5-Entertainment (Video, Photos)
    6-Online Sales ?7?-Games?? (is this a possibility down the line) A large sector with big potential

    I'll be honest I am one who thinks that eventually we are going to be returning to dummy terminals, a lot of these items would support that. I think they have a bigger plan, and I think we are beginning to see pieces that fit together. But also they have one or two more cards they havent played yet.

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    1. Re:pieces of a puzzle... by Anonymous+Crowhead · · Score: 2, Funny

      we are going to be returning to dummy terminals

      So, you are switching back to Windows?

      Kidding aside, I doubt we will switch to dummy terminals but it would certainly lessen the requirement of any particular OS.

    2. Re:pieces of a puzzle... by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Insightful
      remember when google burst on the scene? Yahoo! was formerly the king of search engines, but they got sidetracked with other things -- message boards, chat, email, auctions, stores, credit cards, hell they even had a magazine. Google showed up, doing searches and nothing but searches.

      So now google has expanded into other territory. Half of their services are in perpetual beta. Thanks to keyword spamming and gaming the google, their search results are often useless. Click fraud is very real.

      Google is a threat, but they're a threat to themselves.

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    3. Re:pieces of a puzzle... by AnyoneEB · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think beta would be a major improvement for DNF.

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  8. A collaborative reply. by slashbob22 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashpoo^H^H^Hdot:
    A collaborati^H^H^Hative environment is the^H^H^H only good if you hate^H^H^H^H trust the people you are working with.

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    I have used my share of realtime collaborative environments. For some reason, someone is always immature enough to start drawing rude pictures or writing pointless statements.

    While I realize it isn't always the case, I find that half of the people I collaborate with online are in the same building. Come visit, lets go for a coffee and work on the same document there.

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  9. Right Direction by whois_drek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is certainly a step in the right direction. I'm interested in automatic document generation, and it's a coincidence that Peter Norvig gave a talk at a colloquium here at BYU this morning. I asked him if he thought Google would ever get into the business of automatically generating documents using their 500 TB of data as a source (i.e. automatically created Wikipedia articles on any subject). He said no, because of copyright issues and the like, but it'll be interesting to see how "Writely" turns out. It seems like it's a stepping stone to completely automated document generation, and might yield some good ideas.

  10. Re:Compatibility by NamShubCMX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You were expecting a "web-office" to work without javascript?

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  11. Google's suite... by sdirrim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    On one hand, this may be an intro into a market in which Google will begin to destroy Microsoft's market share. On the other hand, this could be just the opportunity Microsoft needs to bring Google down. Google and Microsoft will now have products in the same category: Word Processors.

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  12. Writely Technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Writely is based upon ASP.NET.

    Will this save them appreciable time? They will have to do a rewrite or be based on Microsoft technology (yeah, right).

    1. Re:Writely Technology? by pebs · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Writely is based upon ASP.NET.
      Will this save them appreciable time? They will have to do a rewrite or be based on Microsoft technology (yeah, right).


      I doubt they will do a rewrite. Probably get it running in Mono/Linux if anything. Orkut is written in ASP.Net, but I believe they run it in Mono/Linux.

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  13. Best features by Beuno · · Score: 4, Informative

    One of the most impressive features of Writely is that it integrates perfectlly with Word and OpenOffice.
    From their FAQ:

            * Upload Word documents, OpenOffice, RTF, HTML or text (or create documents from scratch).
            * Use our simple WYSIWYG editor to format your documents, spell-check them, etc.
            * Invite others to share your documents (by e-mail address).
            * Edit documents online with whomever you choose.
            * View your documents' revision history and roll back to any version.
            * Publish documents online to the world, or to just who you choose.
            * Download documents to your desktop as Word, OpenOffice, RTF, PDF*, HTML or zip.
            * Post your documents to your blog.

    1. Re:Best features by coastin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, they are also very responsive to their users. I began using Writely when they first rolled out could I could collaborate with my project leader on a technical paper we were writing for publication in a scientific journal. At the time they did not support OpenOffice, but they responded to an e-mail I sent that it was in the works. A few days later it was added to the supported format list. You can also e-mail your text to create a document.

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  14. Re:Compatibility by tehshen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it requires junk like cookies and javascript

    If you care so much as to turn cookies and javascript off (like myself) then you probably would not use an online office suite anyway.

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  15. What's old is new... by ferd_farkle · · Score: 5, Funny

    "a collaborative word processor that runs in a web browser"

    This sort of app is awfully reminiscent of The World Wide Web, written by Tim Berners-Lee at Cern a while back. Anything ever come of that...?

  16. best quote by matt4077 · · Score: 3, Funny
    It's true -- everyone told us it was crazy to try and give people a way to access their documents from anywhere -- not to mention share documents instantly, or collaborate online within their browsers

    She sounds like Napoleon after starting the war against russia, or maybe Einstein telling someone time is relative and space is bent.

    Oh my GOD, sharing DOCUMENTS??? REVOLUTION! Someone call Nobel. He has TO GIVE HER A PRICE.

    1. Re:best quote by joranbelar · · Score: 3, Funny
      Oh my GOD, sharing DOCUMENTS??? REVOLUTION! Someone call Nobel. He has TO GIVE HER A PRICE.

      OK. $699 and she's yours.

  17. Writely pros + cons by Damana+Mathos · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've used Writely for about 5 months now. Obviously I like it, but what I see as the pros + cons are:

    Pros
    * Good, clean user interface
    * Access documents from anywhere (main reason I use it)
    * Don't lose your documents if your PC dies
    * Sharing documents is good when planning things in groups

    Cons
    * Privacy issues
    * Not as feature rich as Word

    Privacy wasn't really a concern of mine, mainly because the documents I work on aren't highly confidential -- I'm not writing down my PIN numbers and not plotting evil plans. ;) If you're not doing those, then it just becomes a trade-off between privacy and convenience.

    Features I'd like them to add include: user-defined styles, ability to copy/paste graphics, and improved table layouts. So far though, it's pretty good.

    In other words, check it out once it's open again. ;)

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  18. Writely Vs Word by highwaytohell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this an attempt for Google to compete with Microsoft in word processing? Because as cool as this may be, it's going to be mighty difficult to topple Microsoft in that department. The Office Suite is so embedded in the corporate world and homes that garnering support for this product will be difficult at best. People know how to use Word. The majority won't want to go to something else that is new and shiny. CIO's won't take the risk of switching over to a new system when they already have a tried and tested system in place.

    Microsoft already whipped most opposition to it. Also, after development is this going to be free or is the consumer going to end up paying for the privelege?

    It appears more and more apparent that Google is basing their business model on Microsoft (acquire and re-badge).

    I'd love to see Google actually take the fight to Microsoft on something that Microsoft has not traditionally been strong at and show them how it should be done. Show them that they are innovaters and not just tagging along on already established software. Trying and compete with them on this front is almost a lost cause.

    1. Re:Writely Vs Word by Damana+Mathos · · Score: 2

      Google's key strength is server-centric services, and I think it will continue to lead in this area.

      The key question is -- do you think we are moving to a server-centric world? For 20 years the home PC has been the key focus, but as broadband (always on) connections become ubiquitous and speeds increase, the disadvantages of doing things server-side declines.

      My view is that we are moving towards a world where more things reside server-side, and Google will lead in this area.

      For businesses, I think they'd embrace a server-driven application that was hosted in-house. Given Google provides enterprise search in this form, I don't think it's a stretch to imagine them offering a application suite that's hosted within the business down the track, while also providing online versions for individuals (or businesses that want to use them.)

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    2. Re:Writely Vs Word by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd love to see Google actually take the fight to Microsoft on something that Microsoft has not traditionally been strong at and show them how it should be done. Show them that they are innovaters and not just tagging along on already established software. Trying and compete with them on this front is almost a lost cause.

      How about:

      Search (Google>MSN or Windows Live)
      E-mail (Gmail>Hotmail)
      Desktop Search (G. Desktop>Windows Indexing Service. We'll see about Vista)
      Corporate Intranet Search (Google Enterprise>WDS Enterprise)
      What about Google Scholar, or Google Answers?
      What about Google Wifi?

      Google's good at search. Really good. They've made a LOT of money with search, and "search" technologies are the kind of thing you can integrate into most any application, and cross-applications as well.

      Thus, when Google wants to compete with Microsoft, why bother building a new solution, when they can purchase a company that builds a great solution, but is financially incapable of competing with Microsoft?

      Buy Keyhole. Add Search.
      Buy Hello+Picassa. Add Search.
      Buy Blogger. Add Search.
      Build on Jabber. Add Search.

      See the trend?

      Add a program to the Google palette, make it interoperate with the other Google apps, and move on.

      Writely is a nice product. It produces Word and OpenOffice.org compatible output. It's a good enough wordprocessor for 99% of people. And as a web app, Google can integrate it into Gmail, Blogger, hell, Google Talk. Add in search. Add in online storage.

      See the Google strategy?

      Of course, you've got to be able to run your web apps on browsers, and if MS dominates the browser market, that could get risky. Then again, one might wonder why Google funds Mozilla and Opera. Note that there isn't ANYTHING fishy going on here; Firefox (and Opera) give Google search referrals, and Google pays them. It's entirely straightforward, non-binding, and easy to change by the user.

      As soon as I get the opporunity, I'm switching my company to an online Office solution. Sure; you can use your own Office desktop if you like. But most people, who don't need the fancy Office (OpenOffice.org) features will be okay using Writely.

      A clutch feature for me will be if writely has excellent ODTDOC conversion. Then I can switch our file format, too.

      But I don't think its fair to critize Google for staying with its core abilities. Google is a search company (or started as one, anyways). Google's developers are brilliant, but there is no reason for Google to launch a completely new app if there are other talented developers out there doing the same thing. Either buy 'em out, or co-develop with them. You don't always have to be evil and use the embrace->extend model in order to win. I think Google is winning the battle v. Microsoft in an entirely "good" way.

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  19. Mentions "secure" several times, but no SSL! by rklrkl · · Score: 3, Interesting
    What I really don't like about Writely (apart from the fact that you really don't want to upload/type in anything confidential into it!) is that it makes a big deal about security:

    * Home page says "Store your documents securely online."

    * Sign-in page says "Simple & secure document collaboration and publishing"

    So if it's so secure, why isn't SSL used *anywhere* on the site? The even more strange thing is that there is a secure cert on the site at https://www.writely.com/ but nothing actually links to it...ho hum. Yes, you can indeed login via SSL if you want - apparently they're worried about server load if they made SSL the default... Maybe with the Google infrastructure behind them, they can turn on SSL by default?

  20. Re:ActiveX instead? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is technical nonsense. Just because you have been told that these are your only options does not mean it is true.

    So answer the question people are putting in front of you. How do you plan to offer a rich text editor on the order of Microsoft Word without using JavaScript to manipulate the DOM? Keep in mind that the browser Rich Text Editing control is dependent on JavaScript for operation.

    Go ahead, tell us. We're listening very closely at the moment. Your answer will mark you as either as an amazing genius or technologically ignorant. If you attempt to evade the issue (like you've been doing), the mods will simply assume you're troll. (As will everyone else.)

  21. "At Google, we know." by zenwarrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google:

              We know what you have. (You've indexed your hard drives.)
              We know where you [and family] live. (All mark their homes on Google Maps.)
              We know who you like; we know who you hate. (Chat & e-mail.)
              We know what you buy. (Let's be frugal.)
              We know where you go. (What's happening G-locally?)
              We know when you sleep; when you awaken. (Usage analysis.)
              And now, we know virtually all your thoughts & plans. (Using Writely?)

    Motto: At Google, your world is our world.

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  22. Re:It's in beta? Great. by borganha · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google is much beta now. Very happy.

  23. Coming in Moodle 1.6 by MichaelPenne · · Score: 2, Informative

    From Mark Aliers team. Gives you a wiki with access control, wysiwyg, and all that cool wiki stuff.

    Actually there is a wysiwyg wiki in Moodle now, but the new one is better:-).

    Get the beta here, (get 1.6 for the wiki) :

    And tell Google to hire us all, I mean shouldn't google have an LMS too?