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Google's New Calendar CL2
pvt_medic writes "Google is apparently working on its own calendar (CL2) program to integrate with Gmail. The closed beta is ongoing with about 200 participants - people involved are not allowed to invite outsiders to see the calendar and are under strict rules not to share any details with outsiders. Here are some leaked photos of the CL2."
I'm guessing this will be one, of posssibly many, new things Google will be releasing April 1st. Knowing Google's history for releasing things on this date, it seems logical.
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Well, with only 200 participants it does make finding the source of the leak noticably easier...
How long until law enforcement uses the Google Calendar to solve crimes? Say the local QuikEMart is knocked off, they just have to Google it: Knock off QuikEMart at 10PM brings up one hit: Snake.
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Does anyone even use an online calendar? Why not use the one on your phone, PDA, laptop? What benefit does one get from using an online one?
I dont know about anyone else but I had a good chuckle from this:
"people involved are not allowed to invite outsiders to see the calendar and are under strict rules not to share any details with outsiders. Here are some leaked photos of the CL2."
I love the internet.
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Google never ceases to impress me. It seems that they always have something new up their sleeves. Earlier today I was reading about a program called, "Wrightly" (also posted on /.) that is supposed to be the killer Google Word Processor App that everyone's been talking about.
Anyway, what I really find amazing is Google's ability to find and promote those technologies that we would never have heard of. For example, Picasa and Google Earth. I played with Google' Earths previous self (KH) but I didn't want to pay $30 or whatever they were charging... and I would have passed Picasa off as yet another cheap knock-off.
I'm not saying that these are great programs in anyway, but they sure are great for free stuff... and that really amazes me -- Google really does have an aptitude for providing quality "free" software.
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I'm a student who uses campus computers at times, I work in an office, and I divide the little time that remains between my own home and my partner's. Between all of these points, any sort of synchronisation with a diary app is extremely unlikely, and with assignments, work events & a social life (yeah, right) all slipping randomly from my mind, I can see the value in this. Sure, an actual diary might be an idea, but I'm used to logging on to my gmail account every time I sit at a desk, whereas over the past few years I've tried half a dozen times to get into the habit of using a proper diary, and I fail miserably, usually after writing and promptly forgetting to check a single entry.
Even funnier is that if you take the images into gimp and change the levels to make all the colours really dark, what looks like a username stands out quite legibly in two of the images.
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Hope you don't work at google, solomanj
Will Google let people use their application logic without requiring we store our personal data on their servers (subject to cracking, government requisition, backup tapes "lost in the mail", etc)? For that matter, how easy is it now to connect our own Jabber networks to Google's version?
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I found the page was a little slow, so before it goes down completely, here are the screenshots. Also works for the lazy. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Yeah, those Google mail and map sites didn't really pan out, did they.
What web site do you use for search, by the way?
This reminds me a interesting article JMZ wrote on the subject of groupware. It's worth reading just for the quote "How will this software get my users laid", but it's got some good points that are relevant here. I daresay Google's been reading it too.
With their talents and GMail's strengths, it looks like they're ready to come out with just what JMZ is proposing. Which may make Hula dead in the water, but we'll just have to wait and see...
I heard you were dead.
Actually, I'd say that they have always been a company focused on a few things. They've hired a good number of good scientists.
Some of this stuff requires fairly complicated techniques from the realm of research.
Need an example. Get the calendar to sufficiently put a short summary of everything that's going on in its cells by extracting that data from your email.
You're assuming that someone from google didn't leak it.
It's been said that there's no such thing as bad publicity. Making something 'secret' only adds to the interest.
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Everyone is saying "the point is so that you can access your calendar from anywhere."
Whatever happened to the popular Slashdot meme: Don't access [Online Service that requires a password] from public places?
About the only places I would consider 'secure' are home, work, or a friend's house. And I wouldn't be so sure about the friend's house, because some of my friends are sneaky bastards like that.
Taking the Calendar away from a fixed computer, or appt. book or laptop/pda seems like it'll encourage people to check their schedule everywhere. Because, if the point is not to check it anywhere, then why not keep your schedule with you? Home ---> work doesn't seem very troublesome to me.
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Anyone else here think that Google should throw some cash at RIM to get CL2 and GMail doing full wireless sync with BlackBerries? I would gladly pay money for that feature.
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Has anybody tried Caledarhub (http://www.calendarhub.com? What sets Google apart from this? I was a pretty staunch Yahoo calendar user until I found Caldarhub.
Before we went to the Julian calendar, a lunar calendar more than sufficed. Just add a leap second for every 1200 years or so, to compensate for lunar drift.
Ironically, we wouldn't have had to deal with all of these end time religious types (who decided to ignore the difference between the two) today, since their end of the world prophecies would have been scheduled for at least a few hundred years from now, rather than based on the year 2000.
Missing Mars due to a glitch in converting imperial to metric is one thing, destroying the Earth to speed up various religious prophecies due to a glitch in calendar systems is another.
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I will really like this. Mail, chat and calendar all in one place, with a nice interface and enough storage. I usually do work from 3 different places, from 4 computers, and accessing everything from Gmail will be a fine indeed, easier than always synch.ing calendars, and sometimes forgetting to do so. What we could spend quite an amount of time talking about would be privacy and security related issues, but I'm willing to lower some bars if this thing will be as functional as I expect it to be.
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
http://www.google.com/cl2 yields a login prompt that says:
"Sign in to Google CL2 with your Google Account"
So now that Google already knows what we're searching for and can read our e-mail, it will also be able to know what we're doing at any given time? I'm definitely signing up!! What's next, Google Personal Diary? Google Thought Recorder?
Remember the quote, "We're moving to a Google that knows more about you" ? You'd better.
Wow, too late, seems that they are offering ICAL format :-))
Maybe not by Apple, but in this particular case on Apple's OS.
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What we ought to have now is a server based approach, where all devices access the same version of the data. For now, this implies a browser solution, though a DAV solution or dedicated protocol would be better. Nothing I have looked at is exactly right, but Yahoo Calendar (full version when on a computer, wap version on a cell phone) is getting there.
Hmm.... I suppose something like this could help me better manage my social life...
..oh wait...
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It's really getting fairly old 'leaking' screenshots etc to raise some easy hype :D
But anyway, this calandar program looks neat! Maybe if they stopped adding new features every week gmail could come out of "Beta" (ie, if it stuffs up don't bitch to us) sometime this century.
What I'd like to know is what AJAX library they use. Does Google build its own library and do they plan to release it to the public (OpenSource) or do they use another? I guess they don't use Yahoo's library and probably also not Zimbra's, so what else?
I'm starting to use the Dojo toolkit (http://dojotoolkit.org/) which might become the top free AJAX library. See my first easy samples "tree?.html" at (http://wyoguide.sf.net/test/.
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Google COULD, if they want to, have a calendaring system in which the data is encrypted the entire time it is in transit, and the entire time it is stored on their systems, and only decrypted locally by a java applet within the browser of the user accessing the data. They could also still support this with advertising, and people would be more inclined to use it with the knowledge that their data would be safe.
Do you think businesses are going to want their employees scheduling confidential meetings on a calendaring system which Google has full access to? But if it were fully encrypted and only accessed by password locally, this would suddenly be a potent and secure tool which makes the PDA a lot less useful in a networked world.
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What I have always wanted is a web calendar that I can sync with my desktop calendaring app (preferably via an open standard.) It'd be especially nice if it was acccessible via my cellphone, too. But what I'd really like it to do is this:
- show my schedule to the public
- allow me to choose which calendar events I have posted are (in)visible, and with or without description (since I don't - necessarily want everyone to know _what I'm doing then. just that i'm busy.)
- allow people to select a time range from the calendar and "apply" for that range of my time
- have me emailed/IMd/otherwise contacted when such an application occurs so I can confirm/reject it
- then have them notified of the acceptance/rejection.
I have a pretty busy and variable schedule. It would be nice for me to have my calendar available to me at all times. And to let people figure out what time suits both of us without having to trust that neither of us are forgetting anything.
Does such a calendar exist?
*Note: feel free to steal this idea. i know i'm not going to develop it...
What comes first, finding a teacher or becoming a student?
It's amazing - just a day or two ago, I was thinking how convenient it would be to have a calendar in Gmail, rather than have my schedule sitting in Outlook on my home desktop and doing nothing.
And now it turns out they're working on it.
And just a few months ago, I was hoping that Google would make an Israel version of Google News - and that came out on Tuesday, and looks great.
How often does it happen that a company consistently puts out programs and services that you'd wanted to use before they made them?
I don't think many people are aware of it but a 'new' standard is finally emerging that allows mobile devices to synchronize over the internet. A great number of mobile phones and smartphones (like my Nokia 9300) support this. See the website below for a list of devices that support SyncML. So does the Mozilla Sunbird Calendar...
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List of devices: https://www.mobical.net/mobical/phonesetup/
What use is an online calendar if it doesn't support online synchronisation?
I know that Gmail has ignored the wonderful imap standard, so I'm not entirely cnvinced they won't ignore this one.
So: Please Google, don't be evil, and use the open SyncML standard
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Google does everything better, end of story. First there was Infoseek, now Google Search. First there was Mapquest, now there's Google Maps. First there was Hotmail, now there is GMail. Each time Google enters a market, they make a better product than what is currently available. When they stop doing stuff better than everyone else, then I'll stop using their services.
There has been ALOT of discussion on Calendars, and EXCHANGE. There was a comment made that EXCHANGE is the clear choice (and something only choice) for corporate informational exchange. Well, the company I worked for refused Exchange. What they are using is OpenXchange. http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community// Which is a open sourced version of novells Version http://www.novell.com/products/openexchange/screen shots.html/ For those who need a "Calendar" or "Email" Server without sticking your stuff into google.
. html/ and here http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/onl ine.htm/
The Open Sourced version is a little hectic to setup as it does not contain an administrative backend, so most of of the work is done through the command line... which is a small price to pay if you compare what is costs for MS Exchange. A Demo could be located here http://www.openexchange.com/EN/product/onlinedemo
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The original host is down, so I have taken my life and bandwidth allowance in my hands and stuck a mirror up. http://jaduncan.net/google-calendar-cl2-leaked-pic tures
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What web site do you use for search, by the way?
Google isn't the only game in town and isn't necessarily the best. I've been using Yahoo mostly and Google when I need to search newsgroups. I use A9 a couple of times a day (yes, I know the results come from Google) to get the Amazon discount.
Recently, though, I've been using Windows Live...the UI is outstanding (no more pages...just one continuous scroll through all the results - I expect to see Google adopt it) and the results are very good. I close all the portal-like features (news, mail) so I'm presented with a nice, uncluttered screen.
Does this mean that now, when Google is forced to bend to the pressure of the Current Administration through some laws that will no-doubt be passed to ensure compliance, that the Gubbermint will now be able to see where every person is at any given time, as well as what email they're sending, to whom, and what web searches they're using?
Oh wait, don't use Google, use Yahoo! to search, or AOL, or MSN... Riiiight, the .gov will just aggregate those search results (that they've already secured access to) through a real-time query and figure out exactly WHERE you sent that email or did that search from, then cross-reference that with your calendar, and figure out exactly what you were doing at the time.
As long as there are ridiculous draconian laws that allow .gov to demand logs and other details from providers, there can be no anonymity. At least so far, my provider is Pro-Privacy, and "Gets It(tm)". It pays to go with one of the little guys sometimes.
- Their search engine is superior.
- gmail was the first with Gig storage; It also has the superior interface.
- Maps is killing mapquest and microsoft's stuff. Mapquest has been dieing for a bit, but over the last couple of years it has been put into the ground.
- Gtalk is so so. Nothing inovative, other than using jabber (the first that talks to all the others).
And now they bought Writely.Dollar for Dollar, I would expect good things from their calendar.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
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But isn't vCal just a way to send calendar events between calendars? I didn't think it could actually synchronize, say, the calendar on your phone with with the one on your desktop. If, for example, you sent an appointment from your desktop calendar to your phone with vCal, then changed the desktop instance of the appointment, there'd be no way to synchronize that change with the phone using vCal - you'd have to delete the appointment from your phone and send the updated instance (again) from your desktop... right?
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Actually, Google Talk has been a very successful product in ways you wouldn't expect.
When I first went to non-technical friends about Google Talk they all said they wouldn't switch to it, they already had AOL.
I use it in Gaim, and when friends log on to get thier mail in Gmail, I can talk to them. It's proven very helpful.
Instead of taking the other IM companies on head on, they're going for a smarter approach.
Google Talk is a full Jabber app, but with voice added as well. XMPP alone should increase its rankings as a good app.
The interface is clean, simple, uncluttered and very straight forward and easy to use. The integration with Gmail is far and away the best Web conversion I have ever seen of any IM client. MSN Webmessenger and the web version of Yahoo! Messenger are no where near close to being as good as the Gmail Chat version of Google Talk.
Then consider that any Jabber network can chat with people using Google Talk. If you are connected via jabber.org (or any other Jabber network) you can chat with gtalk users just by adding them to your list. Don't need to use any extra protocols or plugins.
Then consider the future proofing of using XMPP over creating yet another IM protocol. XMPP is exceptionally modular and the clients talk to the servers in exactly the same language that the servers talk to each other in. So adding new services/features on the server side won't always require a client upgrade. Not to mention that XMPP is unburdened by patent issues and the license is pretty damn good by most people's opinion.
Also consider connecting with the other networks. Google will be able to easily implement the shared connection with AOL simply because all thats required is a plugin on the server side. The client wouldn't need to be upgraded. If in future MSN and Yahoo! decide to stop trying to hedge their share of the IM pie, communication with their networks would also be exceptionally easy.
Jabber has a huge following in the corporate environment. Businesses like it because they can control it to meet their own policies. This is also especially true of financial organisations. Now those organisations can extend their network to chat with Google Talk connected clients/partners/associates without having to give up that control internally.
Google Talk is a fantastic step in the right direction and the fact that Google even donated libjingle to the Jabber community as a whole means that everyone has gotten something beneficial out of it. I don't doubt Google will offer more in the future too.
And none of this mentions the fact that even though Google is very much an advertising company, there is no advertising at all in the Google Talk client. Not even Microsoft, AOL or Yahoo! can make that claim. They're not even primarily advertising companies in the way Google is.
Google Talk is more than just a simple or bland client. I gave up using all others when it was released simply because of how clean the interface is. I don't need graphical smilies or useless animations in my chats. They don't convey anything I cant achieve with old school text emoticons in the first place.
I logged in to MSN Messenger the other day for the first time in a long while. I wanted to send a message to my cousin in a different city who doesn't use Gmail. I was absolutely taken back by how cluttered the interface is. So many features of no value at all. Many of which can't even be turned off. Not to mention how bulky the interface just 'felt'. It was like going from a sports car back to a family sedan.
No thanks. I'll take Google Talk over any other vendor client on the market today. I even prefer it over the old favourites like GAIM and its like.
Meh. I don't get the love of google maps.
I mean the satellite option is neat and all, but the speed pretty much sucks if you use that option, the interface is lousy (typing everything in one entry field may appeal to some, not to me), and the direction finding algorithm can sometimes give plenty crap results (like routing a drive from Albuquerque to Cleveland through Denver and Omaha rather than the much shorter straight shot through Oklahoma and Missouri.
About the only thing that they do better than, say Yahoo maps is the panning and zooming control of their maps.
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You should be banned.
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