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Download-only Single Becomes UK Number One

Stuart Gibson writes "As predicted, the Gnarls Barkely single 'Crazy' has reached the number one spot on the official UK charts, based solely on legal downloads. The CD version of the single will not be released until tomorrow. This is the first single to be eligible for the honour as, until last month, download sales would only be counted if the track was also available to be bought as a physical copy."

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  1. Proof by Eightyford · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now we have proof that crappy music will remain popular regardless of the method of distribution.

    1. Re:Proof by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey ... with a name like Gnarls Barkley, it's gotta be good.

      Or does that only apply to grape jelly?

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    2. Re:Proof by Propagandhi · · Score: 5, Informative

      And proof that there will always be some idiot will make wild assumptions re: other's musical tastes.

      I bet you don't even know who made this song, you probably think it was some guy named "Gnarls Barkely", nevermind that such a person doesn't actually exist. For your information Gnarls is a collaboration between Cee-lo and DangerMouse. I'm not much of a Cee-lo fan, but DangerMouse is the shit. His Grey Album (half White Album, half Black Album) was as close to bittorrent platinum as an album could be, and DangerDoom (another collaboration, this time with MF Doom) was an awesome hip hop album (you probably hate hip hop, but I guess that's your loss).

      At any rate: forget the past of these two artists, this song is awesome and I'm really looking forward to their album.

    3. Re:Proof by bortykins · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is a great song. It is also nice to hear something that doesn't sound exactly like absolutely everything else.

    4. Re:Proof by arcanumas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Is DangerMouse related to Mighty Mouse or Mickey Mouse? :p

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    5. Re:Proof by rich_r · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dangermouse is his own mouse...

    6. Re:Proof by MacDork · · Score: 2, Interesting
      this song is awesome and I'm really looking forward to their album.

      Unfortunately, according to the RIAA RADAR, "Crazy" by Gnarls Barkely is published by WEA records (German Warner Bros.) making it an RIAA 'property.' It doesn't matter to me how talented they might be, I will make no purchases as long as they associate themselves with the RIAA.

    7. Re:Proof by arcanumas · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, i used to watch DangerMouse when i was a kid. Haven't seen him on TV for years and i was wondering what happend to him. Apparently, he has been very successul in the music industry :p

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    8. Re:Proof by Geno+Z+Heinlein · · Score: 2

      You're both wrong. De gustibus non est disputandum.

    9. Re:Proof by LordOfTheNoobs · · Score: 5, Funny

      Good point `mindstormpt'.

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    10. Re:Proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      DangerMouse is the shit

      Ooh, crumbs, DM!

    11. Re:Proof by BewireNomali · · Score: 2, Funny

      dude, I'm a fan too. Dangermouse is killer. I'm not as much a Cee-lo fan - but the dangerdoom album was bananas. I'm also a Madvillian fan - basically a big doom fan.

      I'll get this album for the beats, definitely. It'll be hot.

      music is one of those things. the random critiques people make of music they've never heard or music they don't understand never ceases to amaze me. because music is so personal and relative, it seems smart not to judge that which one is not. I suspect that flames will follow your post though.

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    12. Re:Proof by Fraew · · Score: 2, Informative

      So i'm guessing all the dudes who have been so blank-faced 'this consarnity new music!' in this thread are unaware of the Adult Swim connection?

      DangerMouse previous recorded an album with brilliant US hip-hop artist MF-Doom as 'Danger-Doom' which featured cameo's by the Adult Swim crew (including Brak, Zorak, Space Ghost - and best of all the Aqua Teen Hunger Force). He seems to be getting really well known in hip-Hop scenes for his collabrative work; really funny stuff.

    13. Re:Proof by linzeal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you guys want to find new music by comparing to the music you already listen to , check out the link in my sig. Last.fm has reawakened my passion for finding new music to listen to that I thought stopped when I was 25 or so. Now I find that I am buying about 3-4 CDs a month like I used to when I was a teenager. Giggles, ponies!!!!

    14. Re:Proof by Literaphile · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Then how shall it be debated? How can we debate a song (or any work of art) if not from the approach of taste, as you say? That's the only way we can, in fact, since there's no objective idea of "good" art. Thus, any opinion will be based on taste. Linguam Latinam quoque dicere possum, sed ratio mea potentior fit? non sic. Et eloquentia et substantia praesint.

    15. Re:Proof by The-Bus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gnarls Barkley is the collaboration between Danger Mouse and Cee-Loo Green. Cee-Lo had one of the most well-received albums of 2004, and Danger Mouse has been involved with a lot of critically acclaimed, succesful projects.

      Just because you (and a lot of others) haven't heard of them doesn't mean they're bad. This is not Suga Babes II.

      You'd think the /. crowd would be more understanding.

      (For the record, I think Gnarles Barkley is just OK so far... I prefer some of Danger Mouse's other work).

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    16. Re:Proof by From+A+Far+Away+Land · · Score: 2, Informative

      Another Slashdot mentioned pop band came out with a download-for-free album about 8 months ago. http://www.harveydanger.com/ is worth checking out, you've got nothing to lose and I liked it so much I PayPal'ed them some money for the album.

    17. Re:Proof by Geno+Z+Heinlein · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How can we debate a song (or any work of art) if not from the approach of taste, as you say? That's the only way we can, in fact, since there's no objective idea of "good" art. Thus, any opinion will be based on taste. Linguam Latinam quoque dicere possum, sed ratio mea potentior fit? non sic. Et eloquentia et substantia praesint.

      Sorry, I only know the little bit of Latin I picked up watching gladiator flicks with Cliff and Norm. I'm going to presume you said something wittily devastating, stutter and stammer a bit, exclaim "Oh, for crying out loud!", head to the bar and switch to something stronger.

      To answer your question, though, art can't be debated. You can discuss how much you like or dislike something, and you can try to express in words why you feel that way, but you can't ever decide whether something is good or evil. You can't 'objectively' determine that Britney Spears isn't the Almighty Apotheosis of Art (insert trumpety fanfare, change mind, insert catchy pop tune you can bop to).

      This all changes, of course, once you arbitraily declare some premises. If you decide that "good art is art which makes me feel happy", then we could measure your endorphins or dopamine or something like that and announce that certain works are "good art" and "bad art". If you decide that "good art is art which increases the likelihood of reproduction and thus improves the odds of the survival of the species", then you can make the case for Britney Spears being the Greatest Artist Ever(TM) and not genetically engineered by the Disney Corporation to bring western culture to its knees.

  2. Where's the Torrent File? by billstewart · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, wait, they're actually counting downloads people *paid* for? :-)

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  3. Re:And this is on Slashdot why? by Queer+Boy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Spoken like a true American. "Why should I have to bother with anything that's not wedged sideways up my ass?"

    It may interest you to know there's a pretty substantial non-American Slashdot membership.

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  4. Re:And this is on Slashdot why? by MrSplog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i think it's relevant as it's another example of the music industry only just catching up with the demand of the public. i'm glad they've decided to treat music downloads slightly more seriously and hopefully this will allow slightly more mature musical tastes to become more prevelant in the media in general. the singles chart has long been a joke to anyone other than 13 year old girls, it's time for change.

    legal downloads of music/film/tv is the way in which music will be sold in the future. the thought of having to go all the way to a shop where there's only an x% chance of finding the album/song you're looking for will seem laughable in a decade's time... at least, it will be should the music industry not drad its feet as it always does... so perhaps we'll still be exactly here.

    the biggest impedement to the music industry is the music industry.

  5. It had slight help from the BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative


    who used in in one of their BBC radio 1 channel branding idents (which was very cool) where they animated real objects in various real life scenes (street lights , cars , scaffolding, people) to the soundtrack like a VU meter

    very cool effect and it worked perfectly with the track, i remember when it first aired people asked me "have you seen that bbc advert" and "i love this track", played often its not suprising the tune did well, this is just like any other adverts that have cool tunes, if its a good tune people will buy/seek it, good music conquers all

    AJ

  6. Not all internet hype by LordSnooty · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the first single to be eligible for the honour as, until last month, download sales would only be counted if the track was also available to be bought as a physical copy.

    Readers must note that download-only tracks are not eligible for the UK chart, the rule is that the physical version must be released within one week of the download version. So, it's just a way to get an extra week in the top ten.

    And, this song's success isn't solely down to internet hype or hoopla over downloads... it was used on an eye-catching BBC Radio 1 advert that received heavy play on the BBC's channels. Sadly I can't find a link to it, but UK readers will surely know which one I mean. Here's a link to a different Radio 1 ad that uses the same technique.

  7. Tricky Web Page by neoshroom · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone else think its a bit tricky how if you go to their website the song autoloads and plays, so you get counted toward the total?

    I call that tricky. And its driving me crazy. Driving me craaaazy. Driving me craaaazy.

    Hmm...needs more cowbell.

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  8. Apple pwnt teh downloads by cubicledrone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apple sold one billion songs.

    That's a 'b'

    Billion.

    Nine zeroes.

    Big number. More than a lot. Like, really big number.

    Just before iTunes launched everyone said "who's going to pay for something you can get for free?"

    Then Apple sold one billion songs.

    That's a 'b'

    pwnt

    Next.

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    1. Re:Apple pwnt teh downloads by Fooby · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not exactly. They didn't just give these downloads away, costing them nothing more than bandwidth. Apple and/or the various giveaway sponsors paid full royalties on these songs. Which is close to a dollar each. Apple doesn't make much if anything on downloads, they make money on hardware.

  9. Re:And this is on Slashdot why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thank you dictionarybot.

  10. RTFA by MustardMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Crazy by Gnarls Barkley has been tipped to make music history this week by becoming the UK's first number one single based on download sales alone.

    Download SALES. Not downloads. Visiting the website a trillion times wouldn't change the ranking on the charts.

  11. Re:And this is on Slashdot why? by InsideTheAsylum · · Score: 3, Funny

    My friend is canadian and he says he makes up 33% of slashdot's international readership. Have you met him?

  12. website vs myspace by opencity · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Interesting to hear the audio difference between their home page and their myspace page. Myspace losing the highs.

    Also interesting that when I search iTunes for gnarls barkely I get no returns (?)

    Song's not bad.

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  13. Re:Whoever posted this didn't RTFA. by ed_g2s · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perhaps you should RTF link which is the words "As predicted", implying that article was published *before* the event happended, which was on Sunday afternoon, when the charts are announced. And for reference the midweek number one is almost always the end of week number one. We're supposed to care because it's a landmark event in the growth of online music sales, albeit a somewhat artificial one caused merely by a change in the rules.

  14. Apple the new Record Label? by mythz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is a *very interesting* article on Joel on software (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2005/11/18.ht ml) on how it is essential for the Record labels to be able to control the popularity of its songs:

    "...Here's the dream world for the EMI Group, Sony/BMG, etc.: there are two prices for songs on iTunes, say, $2.49 and $0.99. All the new releases come out at $2.49. Some classic rock (Sweet Home Alabama) is at $2.49. Unwanted, old, crap, like, say, Brandy (You're A Fine Girl) -- the crap we only know because it was pushed on us in the 70s by paid-off disk jockeys -- would be deliberately priced at $0.99 to send a clear message that $0.99 = crap.

    And now when a musician gets uppity, all the recording industry has to do is threaten to release their next single straight into the $0.99 category, which will kill it dead no matter how good it is. And suddenly the music industry has a lot more leverage over their artists in negotiations: the kind of leverage they are used to having. Their favorite kind of leverage. The "we won't promote your music if you don't let us put rootkits on your CDs" kind of leverage.

    And Apple? Apple wants the signaling to come from what they promote on the front page of the iTunes Music Store. In the battle between Apple and the recording industry over who gets to manipulate what songs you buy, Apple (like movie theaters) is going to be in favor of fixed prices, while the recording industry is going to want variable prices."

  15. Worst year for April Fools. by spudchucker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not to mention a day late. Seriously, where is the good song?

  16. Re:Who? by electrichamster · · Score: 2, Informative

    Remember DJ Danger Mouse, who made big waves in the music industry for his mashup of a Jay-Z's "Black Album" and the Beatles "White Album"? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grey_Album)

    It's him, under another pseudonym.

  17. What people like != what they buy by vik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope this is a step along the way to allowing songs into the charts that are heavily downloaded and - legally - not necessarily paid for. Until that happens, the charts remain an indicator of how heavily pimped a song or artist is.

    Vik :v)

  18. downloads obey physical laws! by hogghogg · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...was also available to be bought as a physical copy.
    Hey, downloaded copies are still physical copies. The internet still obeys physical laws, even when it doesn't obey the DMCA.
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  19. Pity... by trawg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is a pity that it is still easier to type 'gnarls barkley +crazy +mp3' into Google to pirate it than it is to actually buy this online - at least in Australia. They're playing it a lot on a local radio station here and I quite like it, and this article finally gave me the artist so I could look it up to buy it.

    As always I tried Googling it first to see if it was iTunes - which it was; I got a handly link to the iTunes store, which opens iTunes. I was then politely told that this track is only available in the iTunes store in the UK.

    If the labels are ever going to take this Internet thing seriously they're going to have to readjust their way of thinking. They can't rely on their old system of having area-based licenses - it just doesn't make any real sense in the era of digital content.

  20. viva la difference by BeardsmoreA · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Rant, rant, young people today, rubbish, nothing but shouting, rap, etc...

    All you just said is "I feel old and close minded, and/or this isn't my prefered genre of music." Guess what, I like my classic rock as much as anyone, and you're more likely to catch me with a Floyd album than the latest 50 pence track, but this is obviously a catchy pop tune (hear it once or twice and I defy you not to be humming it the rest of the day.)

    Idiot... or did I just get properly trolled?

  21. Re:This song was used for a radio station advert by Herstal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Terrible station? what would you prefer Saga FM maybe? Although they air a lot of chart music by day. Radio 1 still remains to be one the most varied and innovate radio station in the UK. Remeber this is the station that bought us John Peel and regularly gives air time to unsigned bands.

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