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SplunkBase Brings IT Troubleshooting Wiki to the Masses

OSS_ilation writes "IT troubleshooting firm Splunk is using LinuxWorld Boston as a platform to formally launch Splunk Base, a global wiki that will offer IT pros a free-of-charge venue to exchange troubleshooting information, tools and fixes. Splunk is promising that the wiki is completely vendor neutral, and can be compared to Wikipedia, the online open encyclopedia that is regulated and updated by the community-at-large. Users don't even have to have a copy of Splunk Professional to use it. From the article: 'If you believe the research from firms like Framingham, Mass.-based IDC, then Splunk Base has arrived at a key moment. According to IDC, companies will spend more than $100 billion this year on managing the world's data centers. And with virtualization quickly becoming an IT buzzword in 2006, the complexity and costs could increase.'"

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  1. splunk base by Mantorp · · Score: 3, Funny

    quite possibly the worst name ever

    1. Re:splunk base by Otter · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I read that name and thought "Gee, "Ekiga" suddenly doesn't seem so bad..."

  2. Obligatory by invisik · · Score: 4, Funny

    All your splunk base belong to us!

    Eww....

    -m

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  3. how long until by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How long until the solution to all of the problems is "Reboot the computer"?

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    1. Re:how long until by MPHellwig · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Second; "A planned reboot is always better than an unexpected failure"(tm)

    2. Re:how long until by ZSpade · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm assuming never, as it seems that as things progress we're seeing less of a need to reboot. In windows 9x/me you pretty much had to restart after making *ANY* changes. If you installed a porogram, reboot. If you changed a minor network setting, reboot. If things started getting slow, reboot! The network doesn't work? REBOOT!!!

      Now in XP however if the network stops working a reboot seldom fixes it. When you install programs, with the exception of Windows updates and anti-viruses, you need not reboot. The same is true for degrading performance. For the most part rebooting doesn't fix that like it used to, as XP manages memory in a much more effecient manner, and actually knows how to free and reallocate it.

      So when, you ask, will we be able to fix everything with a reboot? I answer, will the next true generation of computers even need a reboot function, or will we simply let them fall asleep, only to awake them when needed. Most problems will correct themselves in the future, I'm curious as to how long we'll still be seeing error messages, even if something does go wrong.

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  4. A little late to the party, don't you think? by StevenMaurer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm glad these people have suddenly gotten the idea that there is a lot of knowledge in the global community that can be shared, but seriously, how is this better than Wikipedia, Expert's Exchange, or plain old Google?
    What does this tool offer that's better in any way?
    Move along. There's nothing to see.

    1. Re:A little late to the party, don't you think? by garcia · · Score: 2, Informative

      Expert's Exchange? Give me a break. Most of their solutions require a login and the page is so filled with ads that it's not worth your time.

      Google, as great as it is with other shit, usually returns Expert Exchange as the first couple of hits on any search for help. Boo.

      I welcome any open and free wiki competitor to EE.

    2. Re:A little late to the party, don't you think? by Nimey · · Score: 4, Insightful
      This covers an area inappropriate for Wikipedia, and Experts Exchange has a yearly fee. Google is nice, but there are some things that are difficult to find on it.

      Move along. There's nothing to see.


      Hardly. This looks promising.
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    3. Re:A little late to the party, don't you think? by ceejayoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so asking/posting a bunch of technical questions and fixes will get you blocked quickly.

      Expert's Exchange requires you to scroll three screens past advertisements from the actual question to the answers (when they're actually available without registering, that is). Not to mention the disgusting IntelliTXT ads they insert into the actual text...

      Google can be frustrating, especaially if your search terms center around things like "C++".

      Thus, I'm open to better ways of doing things, and I'll be looking at this to see if it is one.

    4. Re:A little late to the party, don't you think? by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well...

      Wikipedia: is an encyclopedia, not a help forum for computer problems.
      Expert's Exchange: just plain sucks.
      Google: is a good resource, but does not allow collaboration and two-way communication.

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    5. Re:A little late to the party, don't you think? by bwcarty · · Score: 4, Informative

      So true. They've gotten to the point that when I google a problem, I immediately scroll past the experts-exchange.com links to try to find a real solution.

      Or do what I do, add "-site:experts-exchange.com" to my search criteria. The search won't include links from that domain.

  5. Sir, can I interest you in some Splunk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only a bad name, they are a very frequent advertiser here on Slashdot which should have been mentioned.
    Have a look at their demo - I was not impressed. Plenty of tools do the same thing. Both Open Source and proprietary.
    A troubleshooting Wiki would be nice, though. Give ExpertsExchange some competition when it comes to IT peer questions and answers.

    1. Re:Sir, can I interest you in some Splunk? by fbg111 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not only a bad name,

      It's not that bad, probably a play on the word 'spelunk', cave exploring. Not an inappropriate reference...

      they are a very frequent advertiser here on Slashdot which should have been mentioned.

      Why? Unless you've been browsing /. with a text reader for the past 6 months, it's obvious.

      Plenty of tools do the same thing. Both Open Source and proprietary.

      Care to list a few of the better ones? I'm in dire need of just such a tool right now.

      Give ExpertsExchange some competition when it comes to IT peer questions and answers.

      I second that, though I think this wiki will focus more on cryptic log-file errors rather than any programming/config/admin question you can come up with. At least it will be free, though.

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  6. The URL is splunk.org by ylikone · · Score: 2, Informative
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  7. Great Concept by wiz31337 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a great concept.

    Being an IT professional, it is hard to track down solutions to difficult problems using Google alone. If you Google a problem, odds are you are going to wind up finding a message board where someone has the same issue, but no solution has been posted.

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  8. traffic LEAK... by sjg · · Score: 3, Informative

    If I buy an advertisement on here will that also entitle me to stories that will directly contribute to my bottom line? I'm not sure the Slashdot readership appreciates these tactics.

  9. Who's going to proofread? by trazom28 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In my field (desktop support) there's good and bad techs..and some are REALLY bad. They know a script of things to ask, but anything outside that and they are totally lost.. they can't work "out of the box" to coin the phrase.

    I've also worked with some excellent techs that I've tried to learn from as much as possible, and I try to emulate as I work with customers. These are the ones that see a problem and dig in and try and solve it. Yeah, it takes time but the knowledge base built up can be helpful.

    So.. on a database like this.. who's to watch the submissions to select if it's a real tested and found solution, versus something else that doesn't really work? And who's to say the solution provided is from an actual PC tech and not an armchair one? If I had a dime for every time a "friend that knows lots about computers" screws one up..

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  10. Missing from the article summary by algae · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...is the actual address of the IT wiki in question. How do I get to this Splunk Base? (Splunk base is IMO the worst name of any Web2.0 company ever. Sounds like a euphemism for... well anyway...)

    So come on editors, it's the announcement for the release of a new wiki, which despite the $DIETY-awful name, might be a useful resource. How about, you know, linking to it? I hear the web is good for that.

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  11. Eh, this may be good ... by tinkertim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or the biggest publically edit-able clusterfuck ever launched. I would hope that it is used as intended and doesn't become an ego whirlpool, or a 'clique' club where only the edits of the elite favorites seem to be left in place.

    I would love (and avidly use) such a beast with the capabilities they are talking about. If I am not mistaken, I could search for something like

    VT Enabled Xen Windows 2003 Server

    And get what I need out of it quickly. I've also got a laundry list of very odd cryptic errors in openSSI I'd love to find the causes of .. which nobody else seems to have ever happend upon.

    Looks like experts exchange is about to be selling cheap ad space :) I just really, *really* hope it stays as community focused as they say it will.

  12. How long... by squidguy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...before some non-open source software vendor comes along and gets a court order to shut this down or other such injunction / legal action claiming release of proprietary information?

  13. Already exists by Intron · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Its called "usenet"

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  14. You should look at splunk by anomaly · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have looked at splunk. I've got a copy of their eval of professional installed, and it's interesting. There are a lot of things that they do well. Marketing isn't one of them, but the underlying technology is pretty cool.

    Here's where they shine: finding data lost in a log file. Picture if you will a log file with free-form text in parts and XML in other parts. With no training about what the log looked like, their tool could do a great job of identifying patterns in the free-form text - essentially blocks or "records" of data there, and pulling out the XML sections.

    You can search for patterns in the data, and splunk will help identify them for you. The data import and pattern-matching parts of their code are platform agnostic. There are no adapters to buy, and no "training" to find useful data patterns. I think that they are doing a good job on the technologyside of things, and it's definitely worth the time to look at this tool.

    Please note: I have no affiliation with Splunk. I'm not even one of their customers. I have no reason to promote their product. I've looked at it and they do a good job of finding obscure data.

    Respectfully,
    Anomaly

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  15. i don't know about that by ylikone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When looking for solutions to an IT problem, usenet is the last option for me. I go to manufacturers public web forums (almost everybody has their own web forums now). I find usenet to be almost useless for anything except porn, warez and political flame wars.

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  16. You miss the point. by Zangief · · Score: 2, Informative

    All your splunk base ARE belong to us!

  17. Did you guys look at it? by moochfish · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, I will admit I didn't install it, but I did browse around and take a tour.

    This is nothing like wikipedia. It is a log file aggregator. It's a program that transmits and indexes log files on your UNIX/LINUX machine(s). How is that like wikipedia in the slightest? Granted, users can comment on log entries and create a knowledge base, but that doesn't make it wikipedia at all.

    I think they've made a cool tool here. I can see it being useful. But the fact that they are targeting businesses and yet it trasmits all log data to a remote location will make most businesses uneasy. If the application could be setup to keep all data internal, this could be a neat tool for system administrators. But in its current form, it's only really good for hobbyists and other people who don't mind having the guts of their servers on the web ready to be searched by strangers.

    1. Re:Did you guys look at it? by goynang · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you are confusing plain old "Splunk" with "Splunk Base" - they are two different things. Both offered by the same people, but different none the less.

      http://www.splunk.com/

    2. Re:Did you guys look at it? by fbg111 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Splunk != Splunk Base

      Splunk = the log file aggregator you looked at, that you have to pay for, and is not a wiki.
      Splunk Base = the free wiki that the /. article is about, that happens to be the brainchild of Splunk.

      PS - Splunk is not intended for displaying your logfiles to the world, it is only intended to provide a nicer, Ajax-based website interface for grepping your log files. Ideally it will be used only on the corporate intranet, not the public internet. If SysAdmins or Developers need access to it from outside the internet, they can VPN into the intranet and access it that way. There's no reason to make this available publicly through the firewall.

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  18. spunk base? by keyrat+rafa · · Score: 2, Funny

    sounds like it needs a .xxx domain.

  19. Experts Exchange - scroll down! by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Expert's Exchange? Give me a break. Most of their solutions require a login and the page is so filled with ads that it's not worth your time.

    I guess you weren't of the ones who simply scrolled down to see the answer.

    See:

    [Question]

    [lame subscription button]

    [ads]

    [more ads]

    [answers here, doh :P ]

    1. Re:Experts Exchange - scroll down! by Surt · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've tried to use ExEx about two dozen times, and never has my answer been available without a subscription.

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    2. Re:Experts Exchange - scroll down! by Matje · · Score: 4, Informative

      Right there, see that BIG orange circle with, "View Solution" in the middle? What does it link to? Yeah, register.

      Nice troll though!


      "View Solution" would be what the OP called [lame subscription button].
      If you had bothered to read the OP you would have scrolled down past the lame View Solution button. There you will find all answers to the question. I've just checked it for the link you gave and they are there.

      Nice troll though!

  20. Google groups by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I currently use google groups when I want to find out the answer to a technical problem. Kind of hard to beat every usenet post ever written. I don't know how i'd get by without it.

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  21. Splunk base is a good idea by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Funny

    As long as it is as easy to use, ad-free and has the clean look of wikipedia, I am all for it.

    Possible suggestions for new SplunkBase names:

    DeadPCBase
    FixItYerself
    FindOutWTFHappened
    YouCanDoIT
    WherestheNEkey
    IsThisThingOn
    MyPuterBroke
    DamnYouBillGates

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  22. I ALWAYS reboot by ylikone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whenever I've done tech support for someone, even after fixing the problem and if it nothing to do with rebooting, I will reboot the system. Just so I don't get a call the next day "i turned the computer on this morning and it wasn't working again". Before I leave, I show the client/customer that the machine does in fact work even after a reboot.

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  23. Splunk and SplunkBase by dinomite · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think this needs to be summarized because I was thoroughly confused by reading the Slashdot blurb and the linked article didn't help much.

    Splunk is a log aggregation server that classifies and tags events found in your logs making it easy to grep through them.
    SplunkBase is an extension of Splunk, a web based service that you can lookup events (linked from the Splunk application) and (perhaps) get more information about them.

  24. Splunk? by Stavr0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's the sound a spammer makes when he hits the spamassassin filter.

  25. How will the content be licensed? Who will own it? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is the license on the contributed material going to be?

    How does a person know, when they're contributing, that Splunk isn't going to take the site's content at some point down the road, and turn it into some steaming pile of ads and subscription fees like Experts Exchange?

    If it's a wiki, it's difficult to separate individual contributions, so a Slashdot-style "Comments are owned by the Poster" probably wouldn't work. The actual work has to be owned by somebody, and frankly I don't know Splunk from Adam and I'd certainly question whether I wanted to spend a lot of time writing an article if at some point it might just become part of their "Premium Membership" service, or if they won't let other people mirror it as a backup in case they decide that being 'community oriented' isn't paying the bills in the way they thought it would.

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  26. Unregistered EE usage by MrNougat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Note that when you open an Experts Exchange page without logging in, a popup ad window appears. If you leave that window open behind your question page, you can scroll down to the answers. If you close that window, the question page excludes the answers from your view.

    I will say that the unregistered EE is heavy on the advertising, and they make it fairly difficult to register for a free account. This signs you up as an "expert," although any registered user, paid or not, can answer questions.

    You get a limited number of points per month to ask questions with, and need to earn 10,000 expert points (answer a question for 500 points with an 'A' grade, and you get 2000 expert points) to get free premium membership, then 3000 pts/mo to maintain that membership. If you are knowledgeable about anything tech, you can do it easy.

    The tech forums are extremely well moderated, and the caliber of people who answer questions is fairly high.

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  27. Is your computer plugged in? by decep · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I keep forgetting to check that first....