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NASA's $73 Million Water-Finding Trick

An anonymous reader writes "The folks at NASA, obviously looking for new ways to explore the universe, are planning to crash a two-ton probe into the moon. The goal? To find water." From the article: "NASA plans a series of robotic precursor missions including the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, which will plow into the crater, and the mapper, called the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter. When LCROSS strikes the crater, it is expected to create a hole 16 feet deep and send up a 2.2 million-pound (998,000-kg) plume of debris for sensors and cameras stationed on a second spacecraft to monitor. Dozens of ground-based telescopes, as well as possibly space observatories, such as the Hubble telescope, will be trained on the plume as well."

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  1. That's no moon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's no moon, it's a.... ... pinata?

  2. Mission Objective by Shifty+Jim · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now if they'd just started making this one of the secondary objectives in every mission, there would hardly ever be any failed missions. It's a Win/Win situation.

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  3. Re:Couldn't they just.... by SengirV · · Score: 1, Funny

    And if you had said W, you have been modeed up to a 5 for sure.

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  4. Mars landers by HermanAB · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess NASA did learn something from all the Mars impacts after all... ;)

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  5. NASA astronauts by martyb · · Score: 5, Funny

    FTA: NASA astronauts visited the moon during the late 1960s and early 1970s under the Apollo program but have not returned.

    I think it's a little late, now, to think of sending up missions to bring them back to earth.<grin>

    1. Re:NASA astronauts by horologium · · Score: 2, Funny

      Lots of people forgot what they were doing in the 60's and 70's...

  6. Environmental Impact Study Needed! by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Funny
    Shouldn't they study the ecological effects before maring the pristine surface of our neighbor?

    Have they no respect for the environment?

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  7. Property damage... by andytrevino · · Score: 3, Funny

    They better not hit the sites of any of my future summer homes!

    ;)

  8. They're the experts by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    When you need to crash a spacecraft, NASA are the go to guys.

  9. But.... but.... by wbren · · Score: 3, Funny

    But... But... The Enterprise doesn't smash a Class 1 Probe into planets when it wants to scan for water, so why does NASA have to? Or maybe this is another instance where I'm inappropriately placing elements of Star Trek technology into contemporary science problems? I'm so confused...

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  10. Scary idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Good Lord,
    In space there's hardly any gravity. I've seen pictures of ordinary humans being able to perform great feats of strength in space, like upside down pushups with the tip of their finger while wearing an orange jumpsuit and gobbling floating blobs of water like a chameleon. I've also seen astronauts on the moon take great flying leaps that no human could do on Earth. If an ordinary human can do those things in space, then obviously a 2 ton weight should be able to do unimaginable damage. It's likely that the moon will either crack into 2 pieces, or possibly fly off into space where it will be gobbled up by Jupiter or become a tenth planet. I can't imagine what these "scientists" are thinking. We seriously need to put a stop to this now.

  11. Re:Woot! by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bah, I forgot to ask:
    Has the vehicle dev team talked with the launch team about whether they are using imperial tons or metric tonnes?
    I can see it now: Lauch team: metric, Vehicle team: imperial.
    "Sir, we don't seem to ahve enough fuel to reach the moon, best we can do is put the bullet in a LEO and wait for someone who we really want to shoot to come by."

    -nB

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  12. News article from the future... by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Funny

    "NASA's mission to crash a probe into the moon came to an unfortunate end today as the probe suffered a glitch and settled into a stable orbit around the Moon instead of the planned death-dive. Officials said they believe the cause of the problem was engineers mistakenly using the metric system in a system where imperial measures should have been used."

    ~Philly

  13. Re:THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS! by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Moon has taken much much worse hits from meteors and what not.

    Moon: "Mom, finally my acne has started to clear up after four billion years."

    Ffffffuump!

    Moon: "Oh shit! Just before my big date with Titan!"

  14. I've got to wonder... by Timewinder · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is this really necessary?

    I'm glad that banging stuff together when bored and frustrated is still an accepted practice.

    Now to take care of some coworkers...

  15. No Problemo by patiodragon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Phase II = MoonRaker!

    And if that doesn't clear things up, well, we'll send in MoonLeafBlower!

  16. Re:Two funny comments by CRC'99 · · Score: 3, Funny

    1) One has to wonder if the excitement generated by Deep Impact is just going to spawn a whole series of experiments involving slamming large impactors onto heavenly bodies... if only for the publicity of smashing a heavenly body.

    That's one way to describe the mating process I guess.......

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  17. more details.... by revery · · Score: 4, Funny

    The project, called "Deep Orbital Water Sensing Emitter" or DOWSE, is NASA's most ambitious project in years. Current plans call for the capital-Y-shaped vessel to be finished and ready for launch in early 2007 and while the execution may be complex, the basic idea is simple. Engines in the craft's stems will propel it toward the moon, while the actual navigational commands will be issued from the hollow body of the vessel. "What will be in that half-mile long tude issuing these complex water-seeking commands," you ask? As much of the US's growing psychic population as NASA can cram in, comes the almost predictable answer. And while the psychics will certainly be killed on lunar impact, NASA feels that this will more than offset the cost of what is almost certain to be a failed mission.

  18. how to ensure Success..? by dartarrow · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...planning to crash a two-ton probe into the moon."

    To ensure the probe actually crashes I suggest we use MS Windows.

    :D
    COuldn't resist

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  19. 2.2 million pounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is that Moon pounds or earth pounds? cause 2.2 million pounds on the moon is a lot more mass than 2.2 million pounds on earth....

    1. Re:2.2 million pounds by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is that Moon pounds or earth pounds?

      Pound Sterling. Converting to US dollars would roughly double the size of the plume, and using Lira would create a dust cloud that encircles the solar system.

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  20. Splash! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Funny
    Some of these NASA experiments sound a bit like the Monty Python skit where they try to determine is a woman is a witch or not...

    Which reminds me... Why not send a witch? If she drowns then you know there's water.

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    1. Re:Splash! by andersa · · Score: 3, Funny

      I say we nuke the entire site from orbit.. It's the only way to be sure..

  21. Re:Water quality? by afaik_ianal · · Score: 2, Funny

    You gotta be careful about moon cooties...

    Somehow, I suspect that's the only kind of cooties you need to worry about.

  22. Re:THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS! by judabuddhist · · Score: 3, Funny

    "It won't. A good anaology would be crashing the empire state building into Wyoming. It would look sorta cool, but that's about it." This is perhaps the worst analogy designed to combat irrational fears ever.

  23. Heh... by wolf369T · · Score: 4, Funny

    An they will *accidentally* crash the probe on the Apollo 11 landing site. Then listen to the conspirationists...

  24. That's so sad... by RMB2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    From TFA: NASA astronauts visited the moon during the late 1960s and early 1970s under the Apollo program but have not returned.

    Those astronauts, who sacrificed so willingly, sitting up there all alone on the Moon for thirty years...

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  25. The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by cje · · Score: 5, Funny
    It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

    Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you. Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

    Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.

    (Hey, I've seen enough people plagiarize this piece over the years, I thought I might as well post it myself for old time's sake.)

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  26. Re:In Soviet Mars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    no. no. no!

    if anything it should be:

    In Soviet Russia, moon bombs you!

  27. Re:see... by JakusMinimus · · Score: 2, Funny

    See, things like this are why I am just not that impressed with science...

    comments like this are why science just isn't that impressed with you

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