I'm sorry, citizens have the "responsibility" of acting "responsibly"? And whom exactly is in charge of the subjective definition of "responsibly"?
Additionally, you earn +0 Karma for misinterpreting the First Amendment. A very simple search would tell you that
1) The Supreme Court decision (Schenck v. United States in 1919) only described falsely shouting fire in a theater, and
2)
Schenck was later limited by Brandenburg v. Ohio, which ruled that speech could only be banned when it was directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot), the test which remains until this day.
You might notice that no mention is made of "responsible" action. I, for one, find the lack of such subjectivity to be a good thing.
Seems like they might not only be able to save electricity $ from wave power, but possibly even save energy with some clever cooling schemes. After all, a huge body of water is essentially a gigantic heat sink.
Something like TFA says Sun has investigated thinking about putting their computers in coal mines, quote:
Sun Microsystems plans to send its computers down an abandoned coal mine, using water from the ground as a coolant.
It's effing OUTER SPACE! And it costs a lot to get there! Please consider what you write before just quoting verbatim the fundamentalist Capitalist mantra "Costs are too high! Drive them down"
If the value doesn't match up with the cost on the financial bottom line, then maybe it's not something that private enterprise, or a governmental entity funded with taxpayer dollars, needs to be doing.
OR, maybe a reassessment of the value is in order. What is it really worth to have a satellite that can give us a live view of what some "undesirable" sovereign foreign state is doing?
But I find that frequently my assessment of "value" doesn't match up with the majority opinion. Take the "Value" of the environment, for instance... alas, another topic.
It's not that I want to get paid better. I actually care almost nothing about that.
I just won't make weapons. And sorry AC, no salary would make me change my mind.
Please, flame on all, and tell me how many useful technologies are spun off from DARPA research everyday. And, come to think of it, how many weapons are created out of 'off-label' uses of otherwise innocuous. I guess, for me, it's principle.
I wonder if studies exist of correlations between higher education and pacifism...
While I agree that trolling is counter-productive, I think that the parent comment about "patented away" or "prohibitively expensive", which seems on face to be just whining, is really expressing an underlying discontent which is widespread within the/. community, and even with "regular people".
Specifically, the fact is that those industries or organizations most despised by the average nerd in Mom's basement (M$, MAFIAA, Big Pharma) all employ a business model which gives exorbitant rewards to Executives (and frequently shareholders as well) which in turn feels like screwing employees, artists, customers, poor sick people etc. If the average CEO salary wasn't 350x that of the average employee, multi-millions of dollars each year, then product X might not be (or at least might not seem to be) so excessively overpriced.
If we thought that pay to CEOs and employees alike, as well as returns to investors, were equitable and appropriate, and Software '08 still costs $79, or Flaxsorabisan HCl was still $50/week, most of us might be more likely to accept the sticker price.
I'm getting rather bothered by continuously seeing these/. posts implying that scientists are so non-cooperative. The last few stories about LHC have even nearly insinuated that it was somehow Fermilab's fault that there were design issues with the magnet structures, almost as if the mistakes had been intentional.
Perhaps the men and women working in the more news-worthy branches of accelerator physics have to try and defeat each other. My experiences have only ever been constructive and helpful; contemporaries offering knowledge, insight and advice to help my research succeed, rather than breaking the equipment so they can steal the glory.
I hope that/. editors become aware of the slant they have continuously put on the LHC setback stories.
Just reading that in a post made me laugh. I really did spend several seconds thinking "Are they even still around, or did they CompuServe out already?". Since I don't have a TV, and they never bother sending those shitty frisbee-tin-CDs to university students, I actually don't even know the answer.
Well, I guess since the fact that this accelerator might create black holes which swallow up the entire Earth and all of humanity instantaneously has already been "thunk of", we should be fine then.... that's re-encouraging
I actually just spilled paint on my jeans this morning. I'd like to replace them with a pair of your "metal impants", they seem to have extraordinary properties
Interesting comments, but I think you overlook the fact that a lot of us LIKE to
mow the lawn, water the flower beds, rake the leaves, or shovel the snow
Home ownership comes with responsibility, and I personally don't find the concept of necessary maintenance to be tedious. Rather, take pride in the work you put into having a well maintained yard.
I also feel that this mantra of responsibility in all aspects of life can help to make people realize what it "costs" to have different lifestyles. If you make $50k/yr, a $1200/mo. mortgage payment can seem like a lot. But perhaps in the future you make $145k/yr. Now, the suburban lifestyle is a possibility. Should you choose, you can allocate your resources to having a big house, and a big yard, and driving a long way to your job.
Problems arise when actions are taken just because they CAN be done. Simple example; just because you CAN afford a Hummer, both sticker $60k and gas @ $2.50/gal * 11 mi/gal, does that mean that you SHOULD get one? One solution is based on people determining what they strive towards before they have the means to achieve the goal. A far greater appreciation is thus achieved, and one is less likely to be frivolous. [Sigh] It's a nice idea.....
Another major problem is that those who CAN make such choices, by allocating their own resources, hoist serious burdens onto EVERYONE as a result of their actions. We all have to share the same air; if Mr. Suburbia chooses to spend his dollars on the Hummer, that's fine, his money. But when his Hummer creates pollution that damages EVERYONE'S living environment, not so fine.
The sad reality is that some are afforded a lifestyle where they can choose to consume in excess and almost by default tend to do so, while many others both in America and throughout the world struggle with the simplest of life's necessities.
Yah, exactly. All this mumbo-jumbo people are always writing about "quantum"-this and "quantum"-that. I want to observe it with my own eyes to know if it's true or not.
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WOPR, is that you?
Additionally, you earn +0 Karma for misinterpreting the First Amendment. A very simple search would tell you that
1) The Supreme Court decision (Schenck v. United States in 1919) only described falsely shouting fire in a theater, and
2)
Schenck was later limited by Brandenburg v. Ohio, which ruled that speech could only be banned when it was directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot), the test which remains until this day.
You might notice that no mention is made of "responsible" action. I, for one, find the lack of such subjectivity to be a good thing.
Something like TFA says Sun has investigated thinking about putting their computers in coal mines, quote:
Sun Microsystems plans to send its computers down an abandoned coal mine, using water from the ground as a coolant.
... and damn myself for posting that comment as AC. Thought I was logged in....
Definitely, get over your selves. There are people ACTUALLY suffering all across the world. A billion people live on less than a dollar a day.
I think the theater just went into a second act: the link in the OP now directs to an article entitled
Laptop Discovery May End SFO Security Scare
I wonder what kind of influence you have to have to get a news station to take down an unfavorable story...
From TFA:
Rather than a laptop, the unit will act as a desktop computer and plug directly into a standard television.
In my view, the cost certainly isn't "too high".
It's effing OUTER SPACE! And it costs a lot to get there! Please consider what you write before just quoting verbatim the fundamentalist Capitalist mantra "Costs are too high! Drive them down"
If the value doesn't match up with the cost on the financial bottom line, then maybe it's not something that private enterprise, or a governmental entity funded with taxpayer dollars, needs to be doing.
OR, maybe a reassessment of the value is in order. What is it really worth to have a satellite that can give us a live view of what some "undesirable" sovereign foreign state is doing?
But I find that frequently my assessment of "value" doesn't match up with the majority opinion. Take the "Value" of the environment, for instance... alas, another topic.
It's not that I want to get paid better. I actually care almost nothing about that.
I just won't make weapons. And sorry AC, no salary would make me change my mind.
Please, flame on all, and tell me how many useful technologies are spun off from DARPA research everyday. And, come to think of it, how many weapons are created out of 'off-label' uses of otherwise innocuous. I guess, for me, it's principle.
I wonder if studies exist of correlations between higher education and pacifism...
In response to the comment what will happen when bad people get their hands on this technology I was implying that the Police are the "bad people"
Ummm, did you RTFA? Microsoft is intentionally putting it right into the hands of the police. THEY already have it.
Do No Ungood
While I agree that trolling is counter-productive, I think that the parent comment about "patented away" or "prohibitively expensive", which seems on face to be just whining, is really expressing an underlying discontent which is widespread within the /. community, and even with "regular people".
Specifically, the fact is that those industries or organizations most despised by the average nerd in Mom's basement (M$, MAFIAA, Big Pharma) all employ a business model which gives exorbitant rewards to Executives (and frequently shareholders as well) which in turn feels like screwing employees, artists, customers, poor sick people etc. If the average CEO salary wasn't 350x that of the average employee, multi-millions of dollars each year, then product X might not be (or at least might not seem to be) so excessively overpriced.
If we thought that pay to CEOs and employees alike, as well as returns to investors, were equitable and appropriate, and Software '08 still costs $79, or Flaxsorabisan HCl was still $50/week, most of us might be more likely to accept the sticker price.
I'm getting rather bothered by continuously seeing these /. posts implying that scientists are so non-cooperative. The last few stories about LHC have even nearly insinuated that it was somehow Fermilab's fault that there were design issues with the magnet structures, almost as if the mistakes had been intentional.
/. editors become aware of the slant they have continuously put on the LHC setback stories.
Perhaps the men and women working in the more news-worthy branches of accelerator physics have to try and defeat each other. My experiences have only ever been constructive and helpful; contemporaries offering knowledge, insight and advice to help my research succeed, rather than breaking the equipment so they can steal the glory.
I hope that
Nice post. Maybe you should get a job writing survey questions for Newsweek.
The fact that you can accurately use the term "religio-political" in a serious context makes me sad
Well, I guess since the fact that this accelerator might create black holes which swallow up the entire Earth and all of humanity instantaneously has already been "thunk of", we should be fine then.... that's re-encouraging
Yah, I've gotta say, I actually have no idea what you were trying to type:
Were you suggesting that you have ferromagnets in your trousers?
Or perhaps you were describing some sort of devilish formicidae pets of yours??
I actually just spilled paint on my jeans this morning. I'd like to replace them with a pair of your "metal impants", they seem to have extraordinary properties
Sounds like legitimate stock advice to me. I'm gonna call my broker right now
This show's been going downhill since season 3
I also feel that this mantra of responsibility in all aspects of life can help to make people realize what it "costs" to have different lifestyles. If you make $50k/yr, a $1200/mo. mortgage payment can seem like a lot. But perhaps in the future you make $145k/yr. Now, the suburban lifestyle is a possibility. Should you choose, you can allocate your resources to having a big house, and a big yard, and driving a long way to your job.
Problems arise when actions are taken just because they CAN be done. Simple example; just because you CAN afford a Hummer, both sticker $60k and gas @ $2.50/gal * 11 mi/gal, does that mean that you SHOULD get one? One solution is based on people determining what they strive towards before they have the means to achieve the goal. A far greater appreciation is thus achieved, and one is less likely to be frivolous. [Sigh] It's a nice idea.....
Another major problem is that those who CAN make such choices, by allocating their own resources, hoist serious burdens onto EVERYONE as a result of their actions. We all have to share the same air; if Mr. Suburbia chooses to spend his dollars on the Hummer, that's fine, his money. But when his Hummer creates pollution that damages EVERYONE'S living environment, not so fine.
The sad reality is that some are afforded a lifestyle where they can choose to consume in excess and almost by default tend to do so, while many others both in America and throughout the world struggle with the simplest of life's necessities.
Won't somebody please think of the.... mosquitos?
Wait, screw THAT! Let's fire these babys up. They can cook my BBQ and help with the bug problem.
And what's this I've been reading about a cat...?