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Wireless Guitar Hero Redux

jeffb writes "I just finished a DIY project and thought you guys would enjoy a look. An improved upon idea: a redux of the wireless guitar hero controller, this time with perfectly functioning whammy bar, rechargeable NiMH pack onboard which can be charged from the PS2's built-in USB ports (for charging, and/or playing while docked), wireless link/activity indicator, and assembled with a nod towards a clean, and professional looking job. Complete how-to with parts list included. Best regards, rock out, and happy soldering! " The original piece on this as well.

105 comments

  1. Call me crazy... by Jim+in+Buffalo · · Score: 0, Troll

    Call me crazy, but couldn't you spend all that time and effort actually learning how to play a real friggin' guitar?!

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    1. Re:Call me crazy... by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 5, Insightful

      you are crazy. if this guy has this kind of talent, it could help him on his resume. i mean he did this from scratch on his own. thats incredible, and shows how hobbies can seriously get you somewhere if you do it right.

    2. Re:Call me crazy... by BoomerSooner · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is f'ing hilarious... Look at his flickr pix, some chick with a nice set! So apparently Guitar Hero hasn't ruined his love life! Damn you Guitar Hero, if only I had learned to play fake guitar instead of the real thing!!! :(

    3. Re:Call me crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not crazy - just snarky...

    4. Re:Call me crazy... by Zephyros · · Score: 1

      Not everybody wants to invest the time or money in playing a "real friggin' guitar," as you so eloquently put it, when for far less they can have a great time playing Guitar Hero. This guy enjoys the game, enjoys hardware hacking, and made a hell of a cool mod. Just because this isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean it's any less a good job.

    5. Re:Call me crazy... by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Eh, I'm not impressed. Now, my Wireless Air Guitar, there's a worthy hack.

    6. Re:Call me crazy... by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can you post a HOWTO? I'm tired of getting tangled up in cords when I play my air guitar.

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    7. Re:Call me crazy... by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 1

      psshhh.. Anyone can hack a Wireless Air Guitar. Not so many guys have the intestinal fortitude for the wired version.

    8. Re:Call me crazy... by agent_blue · · Score: 1

      Im really tired of these people who think they know better than everyone else how everyone should be using their time.

      In the time it took you to post that worthless suggestion, shouldn't you have been working on a cure for cancer instead?!

    9. Re:Call me crazy... by zero1101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's a video game. If we're going to get asinine here, why don't you apply the same argument to "race a real friggin' car," "shoot a real friggin' gun," "use a real friggin' sword," etc?

      (Also: you're crazy.)

    10. Re:Call me crazy... by KeiKusanagi · · Score: 1

      think for a moment. maybe she likes a guy who's secure enough with himself to enjoy playing a game like that rather than shun it for not being as "cool as the real thing". last i checked, confidence and self assuredness was ten times the girl magnet as guitar playing supposedly is.

    11. Re:Call me crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the time it took you to post that worthless suggestion, shouldn't you have been working on a cure for cancer instead?!

      Back at ya...

    12. Re:Call me crazy... by Jim+in+Buffalo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's why I don't apply the same argument to other videogame genres: learning to play a real guitar is not likely to result in injuries, death, or imprisonment. Unless you turn out to be really, really bad at it. Race a real friggin' car... Why not? Just shell out a few hundred thousand dollars for a race car, reserve some time at the track, hire a team of mechanics. Yeah, sure, you're a millionaire, go for it! Shoot a real friggin' gun... yeah, there's exactly the same amount of personal risk, expense, and legal paperwork to fill out to be able to shoot a real gun as there is to pick up a guitar and learn some chord progressions. Exactly the same amount. So go and grab a real gun and fire away. Use a real friggin' sword... um... use it to do what, exactly? I'm looking around, and I... hmm... don't see any orcs or trolls to battle in the real world, unless you count lawyers, and it's illegal to take a sword to them, at least at the moment...

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    13. Re:Call me crazy... by jrmcferren · · Score: 0, Funny

      You forgot: Use a real fucking cuss word.

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    14. Re:Call me crazy... by Pesh+Hawksfire · · Score: 1
      Sure, but kendo and western fencing -are- completely viable options. Learning foil's complicated right-of-way rules is almost certainly easier than learning guitar chord progressions.

      Guitar Hero doesn't claim to be a real music-making game. It's a rhythm and reaction game. Much the same way sports games don't actually pretend to be the real thing-- they're a virtual representation of some of the strategy and problems involved, but cannot hope (or want) to encompass all of the details necessary for the game.

    15. Re:Call me crazy... by badmammajamma · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because learning to actually play a real guitar takes a very, very long time...

      I probably spend more time learning to play a single song than this guy spent building his custom guitar-hero guitar.

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    16. Re:Call me crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Except if you're self-confident about being a LARPer.

    17. Re:Call me crazy... by Loligo · · Score: 1

      >Shoot a real friggin' gun... yeah, there's exactly the same amount of
      > personal risk, expense, and legal paperwork to fill out to be able
      >to shoot a real gun as there is to pick up a guitar and learn some
      >chord progressions.

      Uhm, my first 9mm pistol cost me about $250 (Ruger P85) about 10 years ago. Purchased used from an individual, so no legal paperwork. I was taught how to handle guns safely starting at around age 6, so practically ZERO personal risk.

      Granted, I don't live in a sprawling metropolis, so I only have to drive about 3 miles to find a place to shoot, but I've also never had a neighbor complain that I'm practicing at 3am.

      So unless you're encouraging people to buy a guitar and amp from K-Mart, all three of your points comparing guns and guitars are pretty much blown...

        -l

    18. Re:Call me crazy... by EvilEddie · · Score: 1

      Guitar Hero is an awesome game.....repeat 'GAME'
      No one is saying its a replacement for playing the real thing...

    19. Re:Call me crazy... by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      I built a music synthesizer using off the shelf component parts for my VCO's and power not using a kit but by using what I knew eletronically about music and eletronics. Bob Moog and Wendy Carlos were my inspiration.
      I also know how to play the piano (piano, not keyboard; big difference).

      What's wrong with pursuing a hobby?

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    20. Re:Call me crazy... by aplusjimages · · Score: 1

      Yes a HOWTO because my air guitar is out of tune. I'm looking like a fool when I'm playing live.

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    21. Re:Call me crazy... by pimpimpim · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have another theory: He didn't have to spend years and years practicing the opening melody of "nothing else matters" in complete isolation, so he actually has lots of time left, for example to build a wireless controller into his air guitar, or to hang around with lots of sexy chicks.

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    22. Re:Call me crazy... by npsimons · · Score: 1

      And I have yet another theory: if that's him in some of the photos on there, he's in pretty good shape, and maybe he isn't so shallow as to only care about his girlfriend's breasts?

    23. Re:Call me crazy... by Rary · · Score: 1

      "...couldn't you spend all that time and effort actually learning how to play a real friggin' guitar?!"

      Maybe he already knows how to play one.

      This game has nothing to do with playing real music. It's a game. Lots of people who really do play real music (like myself: about 25 years playing guitar), really enjoy playing this game. Maybe this guy falls into that category as well.

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    24. Re:Call me crazy... by xnerd00x · · Score: 1
      I probably spend more time learning to play a single song than this guy spent building his custom guitar-hero guitar.


      if this is true, then you are not very good at guitar

    25. Re:Call me crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because learning to actually play a real guitar takes a very, very long time...

      Yes it does, and I wish I had never started. But now that I started I enjoy
      it too much to just stop. I do detest replacing strings and tend to leave them
      on a bit too long. My goal is to be the next SRV but I won't live that long.

    26. Re:Call me crazy... by weremook · · Score: 1

      That is a nice set of dogs.

    27. Re:Call me crazy... by Golias · · Score: 1

      My goal is to be the next SRV but I won't live that long.

      You won't live long enough to die in a helicopter crash in Wisconsin?

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    28. Re:Call me crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmmm.....I don't know I could use a real friggin' sword to battle the hideous troll and her orc boyfriend that live down the hall from me.

      Glad to know my time on WoW wasn't a waste after all.

    29. Re:Call me crazy... by pimpimpim · · Score: 1

      Actually there is nothing shallow about liking a woman's physique. Most girls I know like it when you are clear in this. And they are not very into men that are all-politically correct about it. Besides, you should hear women talking about other women's looks, that's much worse than the omments most male could think of :)

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    30. Re:Call me crazy... by hclyff · · Score: 1

      Granted, I don't live in a sprawling metropolis, so I only have to drive about 3 miles to find a place to shoot, but I've also never had a neighbor complain that I'm practicing at 3am.

      I'm wondering why...

    31. Re:Call me crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, whadda ya know... that actually is an easter egg in Guitar Hero:

      http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/puzzle/guitarhero/hint s.html

      Guitarist uses Air Guitar

      At the main menu, quickly press Orange(2), Blue, Yellow, Orange.
      If you entered the code correctly, a message will appear.
      Repeat this code to disable its effect.

    32. Re:Call me crazy... by lamp540 · · Score: 1

      1)Target practice FPS games aren't popular. FPS games were lots of people get shot and blown up are. You CANNOT replicate those in real life.

      2)Hand guns are very dangerous, even in the hands of someone who is familiar and comfortable with them...perhaps even MORE dangerous because one(and you clearly are since you said "ZERO") becomes complacent.

      3)It's great that you somehow bought a handgun without any paperwork or hassle but in a lot of areas that's illegal.

      4)Why don't you pitch your idea for live action counter-strike to your local law enforcement agencies?

    33. Re:Call me crazy... by badmammajamma · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps I play things that have some complexity to them. I also don't stop playing a piece until it's mastered. There's a huge difference between "getting by" and playing a piece well with great tone and zero mistakes. Anyone who says different is full of shit.

      However, I won't sit here and pretend to be a master either...it's a full time job and I don't have that kind of time.

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    34. Re:Call me crazy... by errxn · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right! There *is* a huge difference:

      "getting by" == Big major-label record deal
      Playing a piece well with great tone and zero mistakes == "Uncool, who wants to hear that wankery?"

      </cynicism>

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    35. Re:Call me crazy... by Loligo · · Score: 1

      Been busy, so I'm just getting back to this one...

      >1)Target practice FPS games aren't popular. FPS
      >games were lots of people get shot and blown up
      >are. You CANNOT replicate those in real life.

      Ever heard of paintball? Laser tag?

      >2)Hand guns are very dangerous, even in the
      >hands of someone who is familiar and comfortable
      >with them...perhaps even MORE dangerous because
      >one(and you clearly are since you said "ZERO")
      >becomes complacent.

      Actually, I said "practically zero" (there's always a chance of mechanical malfunction)... and according to your logic, a professional race car driver is more likely to have a fender-bender than grandma driving through the farmer's market, a Naval aviator is more likely to crash a Cessna 172 than some guy who got a private pilot's license out of the yellow pages, and a skilled system administrator is more likely to trash his computer than someone who can barely find the "ON" button.

      >3)It's great that you somehow bought a handgun
      >without any paperwork or hassle but in a lot of
      >areas that's illegal.

      No "somehow" about it. A transfer between two private parties is perfectly legal (for now). Perhaps things are different in California or Massachusetts, but throughout most of the US, if your buddy has a pistol and you want to buy it, all you have to do is settle on a price.

      >4)Why don't you pitch your idea for live action
      >counter-strike to your local law enforcement
      >agencies?

      Most of the local cops and deputies here already play paintball.

        -l

  2. Dun dun dadadun by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    dadadadada dada da dundun!

    Has he arms of thread? Is he paste or made of bread?

    Nobody wants him! He just fiddles his frets!

  3. OK, Crazy. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

    If you mean all that time learning and perfecting his electronics and modding skills, then you may be right. But then, we wouldn't be talking about a cool videogame controller mod on Slashdot.

  4. The Next Step? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously, turn a real guitar into a guitar hero controller!

    1. Re:The Next Step? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 0, Troll

      I thought the next step would be to turn a guitar hero into a tool. Oh wait, most of them already are...

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    2. Re:The Next Step? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The next step is "Guitar Addict" then "Passing out in a sleezy Motel with 2 hookers named Cherise Hero" then "Detox Hero" before succumbing eventually to buying the double-barrel "Cobaine Expansion pack" or pending release of "Guitar Hero 2 w/ Overdose Bonus".

      Adding a touch of tasteless nonsense to the enlightened discord over the validity of a Guitar controller in musical terms. Next stop: NRA board to discuss utilization of Zapper/Duck Hunt as police training aide.

  5. Guitar he^H^Hpussy by miscz · · Score: 1, Redundant

    How anybody can in all their seriousness (or not) play this game with a guitar controller that was clearly designed for 10 year kids? I mean, look at this guy. Go get a real guitar. I just started learning a guitar but it's fantastic compared to all rhythm and action games I played

    I am respecting all the hacking he's done though :)

    1. Re:Guitar he^H^Hpussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How anybody can in all their seriousness (or not) play this game with a guitar controller that was clearly designed for 10 year kids? I mean, look at this guy. Go get a real guitar. I just started learning a guitar but it's fantastic compared to all rhythm and action games I played

      Great, let's see you play "Bark at the Moon" on your real guitar.

    2. Re:Guitar he^H^Hpussy by JLennox · · Score: 1
      How anybody can in all their seriousness (or not) play this game with a guitar controller that was clearly designed for 10 year kids? I mean, look at this guy. Go get a real guitar. I just started learning a guitar but it's fantastic compared to all rhythm and action games I played

      How anybody can in all their seriousness (or not) play this game with a GUN controller that was clearly designed for 10 year kids? I mean, look at this guy. Go get a real GUN. I just started learning a GUN but it's fantastic compared to all SHOOTING and SHOOTING games I played

      On a more honest note. It's a simplified guitar for a simplistic simon says game. The design was not made to replace a real guitar, but to have fun with while lacking a need for dedication.

    3. Re:Guitar he^H^Hpussy by General+Lee's+Peking · · Score: 1

      I think it was nice of him to show people what he's done. Maybe you can get a better perspective on this if instead of thinking of it as a guitar you think of it as a guitar-inspired something-to-have-fun-with. Well, it looks like he's having fun with it, and there are probably some sounds you can make with this thing that you couldn't make with a regular guitar. And people are only assuming he doesn't know how to play guitar as. Maybe he does, and just thinks this is also fun to do.

      Of course, if I had my druthers, I'druther see a slashdot article on John D'Angelico New Yorkers or Lloyd Loar Gibson L-5's or some other drool inducing honeys.

    4. Re:Guitar he^H^Hpussy by miscz · · Score: 1

      At least the gun is bigger than real one and not smaller ;p

  6. Let's check the scoreboard... by cephalien · · Score: 2, Funny

    +1 for inventive hacking/creative thinking

    -10000 for degrading music as an art form.

    Not looking good, Bob.

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    1. Re:Let's check the scoreboard... by KeiKusanagi · · Score: 1

      Degrading music as an art form? Gee, aren't you elitist. I bet you feel _great_ now, knowing that you're SOOOOO much better than him and his little _toy_ Why don't ya keep on pattin' yourself on the back there.

    2. Re:Let's check the scoreboard... by kusanagi374 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why don't ya keep on pattin' yourself on the back there.

      He can't pat himself on the back. He doesn't have clones like we do.

    3. Re:Let's check the scoreboard... by mouse_clicker · · Score: 1

      Scoreboard for Mario Paint?

      +1 for being incredibly fun and creative.

      -1 bajillion for completely and single-handedly destroying painting as an art form (it did, look it up).

      When will people learn that videogames destroy art? Ugh!

      In all seriousness, awesome mod, man. I was actually getting really annoyed with the length of the wire just today and wondering about a wireless controller, so this was a nice surprise to see tonight. If you ask me, hack jobs like this are a work of art.

      -Moses

  7. Hey! thats not the original wireless mod! by jkerman · · Score: 2, Informative

    the last link to the story isnt to the original wireless mod which i did and posted over at make: http://forums.makezine.com/comments.php?Discussion ID=33, its to the guy who made the self-contained music playing guitar. i dont believe that functioned at all as a controller for the game like mine did.

    rock on! I *love* the battery pack idea! top of my list for revision two :)

    1. Re:Hey! thats not the original wireless mod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe this one fixes a problem mentioned with the other hack:

      The one problem i have yet to overcome, mostly because im too damn antsy to play with this to care much, is to get the whammy bar working perfectly. it cant be wired up in place of an analog controller input directly, it appears to be slightly off center. it likely needs a resistor of a value i dont have wired across it. ill figure that out when im taking apart guitar #2. so for now, i removed the spring clips from the whammy bar and let it float free. its only off by about 2 degrees of rotation, but the spring clips are precise enough that it wont work.

      Kind of a deal killer.

  8. Tutorial with howto/parts list? by gust0208 · · Score: 1

    Hey everyone, This is a great hobby hack and I was interested in taking a look at the how-to and parts list. Is the how-to mentioned in the article the comment text on the flickr photos?

    1. Re:Tutorial with howto/parts list? by Zephyros · · Score: 1

      I just flipped through the photoset and while he had some pictures explaining what the innards were, there wasn't an explicit how-to. I'd be interested as well, if anyone finds anything.

    2. Re:Tutorial with howto/parts list? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The complete parts list and how-to are posted in a comment at:

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffb/sets/7205759409 4739914/comments/

      Found while poking around. There are some curiously interesting pics in there.

  9. Chalk one up for Fischer-Price... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't look like a guitar hero. You're a poser with a Fischer-Price toy.

    THIS is what a REAL wireless guitar hero looks like.

    Forgive 'em Ed: they know not what they do.

    1. Re:Chalk one up for Fischer-Price... by MooUK · · Score: 1

      That's just a guitar plugged into a wireless transmitter. The guitar itself isn't any more wireless than any other. In this article's case, the guitar/controller itself contains the wireless gubbins.

    2. Re:Chalk one up for Fischer-Price... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Not bad... this guy was known to play a couple of interesting things in his day too...

      :-)

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    3. Re:Chalk one up for Fischer-Price... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a total moron? Let's see...

      That "Guitar Hero" controller is no more wireless than any other controller. But there's a world of difference in what a real guitar hero looks like versus a pretender.

  10. say what? by Aristocrat+George · · Score: 1

    Maybe Im missing the point.. but it seems like a whole lot of work for something not all that impressive.

  11. Better yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    1. Re:Better yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kelsey's stoned! And hot!!

    2. Re:Better yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  12. Circuit boards. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Those are pretty professional looking circuit boards. How do you get them fabricated like that looking so good?

    When I make my own, I use the Sharpie, those rub-on lines and paterns,(You get them at Radio Shack - at least I still think you can. Or is RS just selling phones now?) and it doesn't look anywhere near as good as the photos in the links!

  13. Re:agree/disagree? by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    People who say "as you so eloquently put it" probably think they are being eloquent through use of the word "eloquent".

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  14. just because its not the real thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the only people i know who play this game are actually guitar players
    it works out your pinky and its funny to play in groups
    *shrug*

  15. come on, people. what's gotten into you? by KeiKusanagi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm surprised to see this kind of response on slashdot of all places. OMG I PLAY REAL GUITAR HAHA U PLAY TOY LOSER!

    It's called a video _game_.

    Yknow, something that isn't real, you do for fun?

    I play guitar, bass, piano, and drums, and recently picked up guitar hero. honestly? guitar hero's not at all like any "real" instrument, yes, but it's great fun, if you're not so insecure and self conscious about it that the fact it's not "real HARDCORE GUITAR AAARRRGH".

    So slashdot, wake up, remember you're on a tech site and supposedly a fan of odd hacks and of gaming, and stop waving your e-peen about by declaring you're better than him for playing "the real thing"

    1. Re:come on, people. what's gotten into you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To say that Guitar Hero is just like playing a guitar is like saying DDR is just like dancing. To agree with you, yes, they are games for a good reason.

    2. Re:come on, people. what's gotten into you? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Funny

      What?? Next thing, you'll be telling me I'm not learning real rapping skills from "Parappa the Rapper!"

      Kick! Punch! Chop! Pose!

    3. Re:come on, people. what's gotten into you? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is funny as I just bought the game last night and I do play guitar. Well, I love it. Its like being able to play covers without the all the effort of learning the song. I found myself acting like a complete jerk striking silly Keith Richards-like poses and the occasional Townshend windmill.

      The real downside isn't the cable, but the game moves so quickly you can't see any of the background animation because you're always focused hitting the right "notes." This wireless hack is cute, but they give you more than enough wire with the little guitar. Also, I would love to see more songs for this. Shame the developers said they wont release an expansion back but potentially a new version of the game next year. Maybe.

      As far as mimicking a real instrument. Well, it could be a gateway to playing a real guitar the same way american idol has turned everyone into some wannabe vocalist/karaoke nut. The difference being that a guitar is a real instrument while the american idol vocal mimickry involves none of the discipline of learning a new instrument. If not, its a cool little game all its own and getting to play that trademark Brian May tone on the Killer Queen was worth the price of admission.

    4. Re:come on, people. what's gotten into you? by KeiKusanagi · · Score: 1

      actually it's been confirmed there will be more than one guitar hero sequel, themed by genre, and priced as if it were an expansion pack. the game's sold well enough they're already developing and best part, it'll be for PS2 still. guitar hero doesn't look like it'll be a PS3 thing for a long long time to come

    5. Re:come on, people. what's gotten into you? by MrPsycho · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least we finally know how Gene Simmons has been doing it all these years...

  16. People need to chill out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This game is incredibly fun at a party or with a big group of friends....oh wait, it all makes sense now.

  17. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when did slashdot get filled with condescending anti-gaming literalists? "Play a real guitar". Umm, I've played guitar for a couple decades, and this is still a great game. Since when has the point of gaming been to replicate real world experiences? In case anyone is wondering, I also know how to drive a car, even though I still like playing Burnout Revenge. Shocking that.

  18. cool by tetrahedrassface · · Score: 1

    Anything that builds music awareness is cool by me
    At least this guy did something with his brain, instead of letting it rot on MySpace
    Nice!

    1. Re:cool by Golias · · Score: 2

      Nice. Stand up for your favorite game, then take a shot at a popular web trend.

      Some people enjoy pretending to play the guitar in a video game using a plastic toy.

      Some people enjoy making and talking to friends via MySpace.

      Neither group of people are doing anything wrong.

      There is also nothing wrong with LARPers, anime otaku, Trekkies, furries, Promise Keepers, podcasters, crossdressers, luthiers, jazzercizers, kickball league players, potters, painters, fantasy football commissioners, para-para dancers, "fan fiction" erotica writers, or Seventh Day Adventists.

      Within the bounds of legality, how you choose spend your free time is your own goddamn business and nobody else's.

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    2. Re:cool by Slider451 · · Score: 1

      I didn't know you were a painter. The things you learn on Slashdot...

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    3. Re:cool by Golias · · Score: 1

      And a furry Seventh Day Adventist LARPer, no less, so you can just imagine what sort of images I paint.

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    4. Re:cool by Slider451 · · Score: 1

      Hey, to each its own.

      Welcome back, btw.

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  19. "Real guitars" are an instrumental dead-end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> How anybody can in all their seriousness (or not) play this game with a guitar controller that was clearly designed for 10 year kids?

    In order to have fun?

    >> Go get a real guitar.

    The Guitar Hero may not the a pro instrument, but at least it's digital and so has its heart in the right place. Those analogue strings are a hindrance to music making, unless you can dedicate years to practice or you started at a very early age.

    Also, "real guitars" have caused stagnation in the development of musical instruments employing separation of triggering and parametrization. That is a very interesting niche, but unfortunately it's full to the brim with traditional guitars. The sooner they die, the better.

  20. Real vs. play guitar - thumbs up! by fprintf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a "real" guitarist, I can tell you that the Guitar Hero games are a blast!

    Way back around '92 or so Aerosmith had a game at EPCOT in Florida where you had to play rhythm guitar to "Walk This Way" and some of their other songs. You were judged on how close you got to the strumming timing and it was *hard*! I played that game for hours, totally having a blast because I didn't have to remember a lot of fingerings and could really concentrate on the right rhythm. I think if I had that game at my house my rhythm guitar would have been that much better since it interactively told you how you were doing rather than either listening to yourself (always suspect) or having to find someone to honestly critique you.

    Nice game, nice controller!

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  21. Psh. Who needs a guitar. by MrFlannel · · Score: 1

    Guitars are all fine and dandy, but why not make this:
    http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/16/ 002236

    No. I'm serious (it's not just me! check out half those threads).
    Accordion Hero would be pure awesome (like lens flare, and motion blur). That's your next task. You may begin now.

    (yeah, yeah, I realise it's just a controller, no software for Accordion hero, but have to start somewhere)

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  22. Cool, some things to think about... by ursabear · · Score: 2, Informative

    First and foremost, it is a game controller, not a gig guitar... so I think it is important to separate two different "threads" of thought here...

    As a guitar, well, it's not like a real guitar. That's OK, because if you'd like to learn guitar, you can get yourself an inexpensive set up like this or this, or for left-handed folks, this. I don't think comparing the controller to a real guitar or learning to a real guitar is relevant. Not everyone that has dreams of wailin' on a guitar or spankin' the plank with some down-home (your favorite kind of music here), but lots of folks would enjoy the fun of playing guitar without the trappings of learning two hands, many strings, and 18-24 frets.

    Games are supposed to be entertaining - I don't think that the comparison to real-world instruments is relevant (beyond their entertainment value).

    So far as the hack... It seems pretty neat to me. Doing hardware hacks is a lot like candy - it doesn't have to have a point - it's just fun.

    1. Re:Cool, some things to think about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but lots of folks would enjoy the fun of playing guitar without the trappings of learning two hands, many strings, and 18-24 frets.

      You're NOT playing guitar. You're faking with a primitive Fischer-Price controller that would embarrass a 9 year old beginner.

      Back in the day, we called you guys poseurs, not guitarists...

  23. "Guitar Hero" is nothing new by just_forget_it · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the early 90's there was a PC game called "Quest for Fame" that included a "virtual pick" that connected to a joystick/game port (a 15-pin serial port made for joysticks & gamepads specifically, before the days of USB). Basically you had to strike something with the pick in time with the music. The whole object of the game was to play gigs and eventually be a guest guitarist at an Aerosmith show. It's kind of funny to think about it now but also sad that no one can think of original ideas anymore.

    1. Re:"Guitar Hero" is nothing new by KeiKusanagi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      and guitar hero was directly and admittedly based off the long-running konami arcade game series GuitarFreaks your point?

    2. Re:"Guitar Hero" is nothing new by MS-06FZ · · Score: 1

      I think it's worth doing a thing well even if it's not especially innovative. GH is a lot of fun. Is it somehow less fun as a result of being derivative of Guitar Freaks? Of course not.

      Oh, and the game port wasn't a serial port.

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    3. Re:"Guitar Hero" is nothing new by KeiKusanagi · · Score: 1

      oh i think guitar hero's great. i'm a bigtime fan of guitarfreaks and even have blistered my fingers a few times from playing too much too hard, and i bought a PS2 because of guitar hero. both games are awesome, regardless of where the idea came from.

    4. Re:"Guitar Hero" is nothing new by MS-06FZ · · Score: 1

      Yar, I figured as much - post was more meant for grandparent poster. Sorry I was not clear. :)

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  24. Re:Damn! by Creedo · · Score: 2, Informative

    He didn't have to spend years and years practicing the opening melody of "nothing else matters"
    For those of you who didn't find this damn hilarious, the beginning of "Nothing Else Matters" is all open strings, that is, no fretwork involved.

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  25. Careful when you open up your controller by merreborn · · Score: 1

    The moving parts in those things seem to be _really_ easy to misallign. If you actually tighten the screws all the way, the pick bar gets stickey, which really effects gameplay. You have to only screw the body together part way.

  26. Nope by blueZ3 · · Score: 1

    1. Autocross is a few hundred dollars, assuming you have the right car. (I do)
    2. Guns can be bought with minimal hassle (even here in California) and take it to a range if you're willing to pay, or a public shooting area (these are usually located in National Forrest areas here in California)
    3. Swords can be bought (I own several) and for a modest amount of money you can either take fencing lessons

    None of these "sports" (if you will) is necessarily dangerous, assuming you have the right equipment and exercise a reasonable amount of care.

    Every geek should try all four! (Guitar, autocross, shooting, and fencing)

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    1. Re:Nope by lamp540 · · Score: 0, Troll

      You can keep pretending your life is exciting driving around doing "autocross" with your dodge neon, pretending to be a knight with your toy swords, pretending to be james bond or whatever shooting your guns at the range, but your just some harmless tool with an overactive imagination.

    2. Re:Nope by mabinogi · · Score: 1

      Was there some point you were making, or did you just feel like throwing around some random abuse?

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  27. Networked Guitar by rossz · · Score: 1

    Gibson has released an ethernet capable guitar. It also includes the traditional 1/4" connector. I'm still trying to figure out exactly why an ethernet adapter is needed on a guitar.

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    1. Re:Networked Guitar by Golias · · Score: 1

      I'm still trying to figure out exactly why an ethernet adapter is needed on a guitar.

      So you can imagine a Beowolf Cluster of them. Duh! ;)

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    2. Re:Networked Guitar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems to be a digitizer. Interesting.

    3. Re:Networked Guitar by highwaytohell · · Score: 1

      The ethernet cable is to turn the string vibrations from analog to digital. This is to make the sound clearer with less degradation of sound quality when trying to plug an analog jack into a computer.

      Downsides are:
      Current Effects pedals don't work with it.
      Current Amplifiers don't work with it.

      So i guess, particularly if you're a live musician, it's of no real.

  28. Guitar Hero Rocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    For all the haters above, who criticize this game - you simply haven't played it. The day I was introduced to it was a small party of friends, when one of the guys excitedly brought out this fisher-price looking mini-guitar I thought to myself "no one could make me play that thing".

    Well I watched for a while, and the soundtrack to this game is awesome. Just watching the gameplay made me really wanna give it a shot, despite possibly looking incredibly foolish. After that it was no turning back. After spending the majority of the weekend getting drunk and playing guitar hero, I broke down and bought a slim PS2 and Guitar Hero game (and 2nd controller for multiplayer action) for myself about a week later. Two months later it's still a very fun and challenging game. My girlfriend plays the thing (and loves it), and she doesn't usually play any other games.

    And for all those who think they are good at this game: www.scorehero.com - this is where you can measure up. Many of these expert players are absolutely insane. For example (to those who know the game), someone just posted a 100% (with screenshot) of The Breaking Wheel on expert - 417k points. The guy who runs the website has spent alot of time on it and it shows, the interface is awesome and the features are great.

    1. Re:Guitar Hero Rocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever.

      Do it on a real guitar, and I might be impressed.

  29. Wireless, Eh? by Blue0ctane · · Score: 1

    So one might say it plays like an unamped guitar. Interesting; the next Guitar Hero release should give a star penalty for weak sound.

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  30. Hi, I'm Crazy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > why don't you apply the same argument to [...] "use a real friggin' sword," etc?

    WAY ahead of you on that one!

    Now, has anyone seen a fairy recently? I'm low on health, and the last "fairy" someone directed me to wasn't exactly what I had in mind...

  31. Thank you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've confirmed what I've been telling my guitar students for years... WORK THE RIGHT HAND!!!

    They all want to get the fingering right for the latest riff-du-jour, and spend hours doing scales, faster and faster, because speed is king, but they can't keep time and a simple rythmn ties them in knots.

    Work the right hand hard early on and rythmn becomes natural and automatic and everything flows smoothly. Once the left hand gets ahead of the right though, the right hand never catches up.

  32. Re:Damn! by ChristW · · Score: 1
    For those of you who didn't find this damn hilarious, the beginning of "Nothing Else Matters" is all open strings, that is, no fretwork involved
    Unless you count in the fact that there's also a melody involved, and not just Em chords...
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